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"Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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03 Jul 2007 04:17:29 PM |
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Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
Well, they are at it again. After Spielberg and Cruise made the
Scientologist War of the World version, Spielberg has now the
Scientologist Transformers version. It should've been obvious, but I
wasn't thinking. Just think about it...
An alien race lives hidden among us on the Earth at war with a hidden
overlord somewhere else. They join with us against the overlord that
is coming to Earth to reign. This is the plot of Scientology. It is
also the way that Satan sees our world (thus, Scientology is Satanism
lite).
From the viewpoint of the devil, he and his angels crashed on the
Earth (when they fell from Heaven), overthrew their overseers (mankind
in Eden) and live hidden upon the Earth (in human bodies, which is how
the Scientologists say the spirits hide, too). They, being at war
with another race like them (Angels among us) rally man against the
coming overlord (God) who will come to reign on the Earth.
Transformers (a film about the race that hides within things we see
here...like demons) is a Scintology (or Satanism, if you will) film.
Ken Clifton
-author of The Christian Superhero Training Guide
http://www.christiansuperhero.com
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| User: "Feather Forestwalker" |
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| Title: Re: Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
04 Jul 2007 12:10:47 PM |
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"David Johnston" <david@block.net> wrote in message
news:i9kn83l2o8a8njmpn70oj4rjqiuleegc83@4ax.com...
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 08:56:49 -0700, Wide Eyed in Wonder
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 3, 6:22 pm, "Feather Forestwalker" <feat...@NOSPAMPLZ.com>
wrote:
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote in
messagenews:1183497449.437015.130480@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
Well, they are at it again. After Spielberg and Cruise made the
Scientologist War of the World version, Spielberg has now the
Scientologist Transformers version. It should've been obvious, but I
wasn't thinking. Just think about it...
An alien race lives hidden among us on the Earth at war with a hidden
overlord somewhere else. They join with us against the overlord that
is coming to Earth to reign. This is the plot of Scientology. It is
also the way that Satan sees our world (thus, Scientology is Satanism
lite).
From the viewpoint of the devil, he and his angels crashed on the
Earth (when they fell from Heaven), overthrew their overseers (mankind
in Eden) and live hidden upon the Earth (in human bodies, which is how
the Scientologists say the spirits hide, too). They, being at war
with another race like them (Angels among us) rally man against the
coming overlord (God) who will come to reign on the Earth.
Transformers (a film about the race that hides within things we see
here...like demons) is a Scintology (or Satanism, if you will) film.
Ken Clifton
-author of The Christian Superhero Training Guide
http://www.christiansuperhero.com
Here is my son's response:
Megatron is the evil. He is the bad guy. I saw the movie, I saw no
mention
of a coming overlord. Megatron is a personification of Satan. Megatron
crashed to the Earth. So did Satan. Megatron tried to take over Earth,
and
the home planet of the Transformers. He wishes to bend the humans to his
rule. This is the way of the devil. This is what Satan wants. He wants
to
bend US to HIS rule. Megatron is Satan, Optimus Prime is a
personification
of Michael, the Archangel. This is pretty much the ultimate showdown
between
Good and Evil. After all, Michael was commanded by God to rid Heaven of
Satan and his minions. Optimus wishes to save the humans. Angels have
hidden
among us, and protected us. So do the Autobots. The Decepticons wish to
decieve the Autobots into believing in Megatron. So does Satan with the
Angels. This is NOT a satanist film. This is a form of what God tried to
teach us about Satan. I'm not saying it's exact, but if you really knew
about the Autobots and the Decepticons, like I do, you would know for
yourself. Before the TV show hit a bad run, I used to watch it. The
Autobots
fight for the weak, while the Decepticons wish to destroy anyone who
fights
them. Michael fought for the weak. Satan tries to destroy them, and make
them suffer with him in hell. Satan wishes to rule the Universe. So does
Megatron. Optimus wishes to save the humans. So does Michael the
Archangel.
Study the story; you'll see my point.
-Tom
God WILL bend us all to His will when He returns...
So you're saying God is the bad guy.
EVERY knee will
bow, even those that go to hell. Also, I said it is as SATAN would
see it, not Christians. Satan hates God and sees Him as a cruel
dictator, just as Megatron is in this film. Satan doesn't really CARE
if you see things his way or do things his way, so long as you don't
do it God's way, just as is the view of Optimus Prime.
So you're saying Satain is the good guy.
Further, angels don't "hide" among us (as if they were afraid), being
the ones with authority from God. The devil's hide from them.
You really need to read your Bible, again.
If he did, would he read this line?
"Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have
entertained angels unawares"
hehehe.....I had the same thought, but am going to let my son speak for
himself in his response to Ken. :)
God bless you,
Feather
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
05 Jul 2007 12:39:36 PM |
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In article <i9kn83l2o8a8njmpn70oj4rjqiuleegc83@4ax.com> David Johnston <david@block.net> writes:
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 08:56:49 -0700, Wide Eyed in Wonder
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 3, 6:22 pm, "Feather Forestwalker" <feat...@NOSPAMPLZ.com>
wrote:
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1183497449.437015.130480@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
Well, they are at it again. After Spielberg and Cruise made the
Scientologist War of the World version, Spielberg has now the
Scientologist Transformers version. It should've been obvious, but I
wasn't thinking. Just think about it...
An alien race lives hidden among us on the Earth at war with a hidden
overlord somewhere else. They join with us against the overlord that
is coming to Earth to reign. This is the plot of Scientology. It is
also the way that Satan sees our world (thus, Scientology is Satanism
lite).
From the viewpoint of the devil, he and his angels crashed on the
Earth (when they fell from Heaven), overthrew their overseers (mankind
in Eden) and live hidden upon the Earth (in human bodies, which is how
the Scientologists say the spirits hide, too). They, being at war
with another race like them (Angels among us) rally man against the
coming overlord (God) who will come to reign on the Earth.
Transformers (a film about the race that hides within things we see
here...like demons) is a Scintology (or Satanism, if you will) film.
Ken Clifton
-author of The Christian Superhero Training Guide
http://www.christiansuperhero.com
Here is my son's response:
Megatron is the evil. He is the bad guy. I saw the movie, I saw no mention
of a coming overlord. Megatron is a personification of Satan. Megatron
crashed to the Earth. So did Satan. Megatron tried to take over Earth, and
the home planet of the Transformers. He wishes to bend the humans to his
rule. This is the way of the devil. This is what Satan wants. He wants to
bend US to HIS rule. Megatron is Satan, Optimus Prime is a personification
of Michael, the Archangel. This is pretty much the ultimate showdown between
Good and Evil. After all, Michael was commanded by God to rid Heaven of
Satan and his minions. Optimus wishes to save the humans. Angels have hidden
among us, and protected us. So do the Autobots. The Decepticons wish to
decieve the Autobots into believing in Megatron. So does Satan with the
Angels. This is NOT a satanist film. This is a form of what God tried to
teach us about Satan. I'm not saying it's exact, but if you really knew
about the Autobots and the Decepticons, like I do, you would know for
yourself. Before the TV show hit a bad run, I used to watch it. The Autobots
fight for the weak, while the Decepticons wish to destroy anyone who fights
them. Michael fought for the weak. Satan tries to destroy them, and make
them suffer with him in hell. Satan wishes to rule the Universe. So does
Megatron. Optimus wishes to save the humans. So does Michael the Archangel.
Study the story; you'll see my point.
-Tom
God WILL bend us all to His will when He returns...
So you're saying God is the bad guy.
EVERY knee will
bow, even those that go to hell. Also, I said it is as SATAN would
see it, not Christians. Satan hates God and sees Him as a cruel
dictator, just as Megatron is in this film. Satan doesn't really CARE
if you see things his way or do things his way, so long as you don't
do it God's way, just as is the view of Optimus Prime.
So you're saying Satain is the good guy.
Further, angels don't "hide" among us (as if they were afraid), being
the ones with authority from God. The devil's hide from them.
You really need to read your Bible, again.
If he did, would he read this line?
"Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have
entertained angels unawares"
HEY! No fair!
*I* was going to quote that one.
-- cary
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| User: "BTR1701" |
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| Title: Re: Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
04 Jul 2007 02:21:02 PM |
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In article <i9kn83l2o8a8njmpn70oj4rjqiuleegc83@4ax.com>,
David Johnston <david@block.net> wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 08:56:49 -0700, Wide Eyed in Wonder
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
God WILL bend us all to His will when He returns...
So you're saying God is the bad guy.
It always amuses me how those who claim to be Christian really seem to
get off on this one verse. They can't stand the fact that they
themselves can't force everyone around them to adopt their religion so
it thrills them to think that someday, somehow, their god will do it for
them through sheer physical force.
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| User: "jerald" |
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| Title: Re: Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
04 Jul 2007 02:34:14 PM |
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On Jul 4, 2:21 pm, BTR1701 <btr1...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <i9kn83l2o8a8njmpn70oj4rjqiuleeg...@4ax.com>,
David Johnston <d...@block.net> wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 08:56:49 -0700, Wide Eyed in Wonder
<kand...@hotmail.com> wrote:
God WILL bend us all to His will when He returns...
So you're saying God is the bad guy.
It always amuses me how those who claim to be Christian really seem to
get off on this one verse. They can't stand the fact that they
themselves can't force everyone around them to adopt their religion so
it thrills them to think that someday, somehow, their god will do it for
them through sheer physical force.
As long as this is surpost to be about scientology and its crossposted
to a few christian groups, did you know scientoloogy has a web site
that claims to repsent your faith? It's called the Religous Freedom
Watch. I did a piece on it awhile back at......
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/100714/scientologys_hate_site_religious_freedom.html
Read the piece and then visit the site. Take the time to tell those
you know of this hate site that claims to be tied into your faiths.
Write the site, tell those you worship with about it. See how
scientology treats those who dare speak out against it.
jerald
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| User: "BTR1701" |
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| Title: Re: Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
04 Jul 2007 07:58:52 PM |
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In article <1183577654.207538.273630@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
jerald <jerald-jayyr@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 4, 2:21 pm, BTR1701 <btr1...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <i9kn83l2o8a8njmpn70oj4rjqiuleeg...@4ax.com>,
David Johnston <d...@block.net> wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 08:56:49 -0700, Wide Eyed in Wonder
<kand...@hotmail.com> wrote:
God WILL bend us all to His will when He returns...
So you're saying God is the bad guy.
It always amuses me how those who claim to be Christian really seem to
get off on this one verse. They can't stand the fact that they
themselves can't force everyone around them to adopt their religion so
it thrills them to think that someday, somehow, their god will do it for
them through sheer physical force.
As long as this is surpost to be about scientology and its crossposted
to a few christian groups, did you know scientoloogy has a web site
that claims to repsent your faith?
Why do you assume I have a faith and that it's Scientology? I'm an
atheist. Christians, Scientologists, Muslims... the whole lot of them
are just a bunch of superstitious fools.
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| User: "jerald" |
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| Title: Re: Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
04 Jul 2007 08:09:37 PM |
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On Jul 4, 7:58 pm, BTR1701 <btr1...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <1183577654.207538.273...@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
jerald <jerald-ja...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 4, 2:21 pm, BTR1701 <btr1...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <i9kn83l2o8a8njmpn70oj4rjqiuleeg...@4ax.com>,
David Johnston <d...@block.net> wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 08:56:49 -0700, Wide Eyed in Wonder
<kand...@hotmail.com> wrote:
God WILL bend us all to His will when He returns...
So you're saying God is the bad guy.
It always amuses me how those who claim to be Christian really seem to
get off on this one verse. They can't stand the fact that they
themselves can't force everyone around them to adopt their religion so
it thrills them to think that someday, somehow, their god will do it for
them through sheer physical force.
As long as this is surpost to be about scientology and its crossposted
to a few christian groups, did you know scientoloogy has a web site
that claims to repsent your faith?
Why do you assume I have a faith and that it's Scientology? I'm an
atheist. Christians, Scientologists, Muslims... the whole lot of them
are just a bunch of superstitious fools.- Hide quoted text -
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I didn't assume anything of the kind. The post was about scientology
and posted also in a news group critical of scientology. As such I
thought it might be nice to have some part of it about scientology.
As for calling everyone of faith a fool, I have found in my life that
those with a closed mind are the fools. I have no problem with anyone
of any faith. People are free to belive in whatever makes them happy
and brings them peace.
I don't even have a problem with what the members of scientology
belive. It's the very evil actions of scientoloyg I speak out
against. As an atheist I would have thought you would be more open
minded.
jerald
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| User: "BTR1701" |
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| Title: Re: Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
05 Jul 2007 12:46:25 AM |
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In article <1183597777.936652.16870@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
jerald <jerald-jayyr@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 4, 7:58 pm, BTR1701 <btr1...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <1183577654.207538.273...@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
jerald <jerald-ja...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 4, 2:21 pm, BTR1701 <btr1...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <i9kn83l2o8a8njmpn70oj4rjqiuleeg...@4ax.com>,
David Johnston <d...@block.net> wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 08:56:49 -0700, Wide Eyed in Wonder
<kand...@hotmail.com> wrote:
God WILL bend us all to His will when He returns...
So you're saying God is the bad guy.
It always amuses me how those who claim to be Christian really seem to
get off on this one verse. They can't stand the fact that they
themselves can't force everyone around them to adopt their religion so
it thrills them to think that someday, somehow, their god will do it for
them through sheer physical force.
As long as this is surpost to be about scientology and its crossposted
to a few christian groups, did you know scientoloogy has a web site
that claims to repsent your faith?
Why do you assume I have a faith and that it's Scientology? I'm an
atheist. Christians, Scientologists, Muslims... the whole lot of them
are just a bunch of superstitious fools.- Hide quoted text -
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I didn't assume anything of the kind.
Yes, you did. you asked if I was aware of a Scientology website that
claimed to represent my faith. That question assumes both that I have a
faith and that it's Scientology.
The post was about scientology
and posted also in a news group critical of scientology.
It was also posted in a half-dozen other newsgroups, one of which
happens to be rec.arts.movies.current-films, which has nothing to do
with religion and is where I'm reading this thread.
As for calling everyone of faith a fool,
I have found in my life that those with a
closed mind are the fools.
Why do you assume that my mind is closed? You have no idea the lengths
and breadths I may or may not have gone to with regard to examining the
concept of religion. Just because I reached a different conclusion than
you doesn't mean my mind is closed.
Is your mind closed because you stopped believing in Santa Claus?
I have no problem with anyone
of any faith.
I don't have a problem with them, either. Doesn't make their beliefs any
less silly.
People are free to belive in whatever makes them happy
and brings them peace.
I never claimed otherwise.
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| User: "Derek Janssen" |
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04 Jul 2007 08:19:12 PM |
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jerald wrote:
As an atheist I would have thought you would be more open
minded.
(<drink-spray!>...Which two words don't belong in the same sentence?) ;)
Derek Janssen
ejanss@comcast.net
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| User: "BTR1701" |
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| Title: Re: Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
05 Jul 2007 12:47:12 AM |
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In article <ZvidnZ7hE8XI2xHbnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@comcast.com>,
Derek Janssen <ejanss@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
jerald wrote:
As an atheist I would have thought you would be more open
minded.
(<drink-spray!>...Which two words don't belong in the same sentence?) ;)
"Have" and "more" (maybe "as"-- it's a close call).
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| User: "Bob LeChevalier" |
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04 Jul 2007 01:05:53 PM |
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Wide Eyed in Wonder <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
God WILL bend us all to His will when He returns...EVERY knee will
bow, even those that go to hell.
So you now claim that the God you worship is a puppet-master and we
don't actually have free will.
Also, I said it is as SATAN would see it, not Christians.
If you can read the mind of Satan, it is only because you are in his
service.
Satan hates God and sees Him as a cruel dictator,
So do you - you just said so:
God WILL bend us all to His will when He returns...EVERY knee will
bow, even those that go to hell.
Only a cruel dictator would force people who supposedly hate him to
bend to his will.
Satan doesn't really CARE
if you see things his way or do things his way, so long as you don't
do it God's way,
And you know this because ...
Further, angels don't "hide" among us (as if they were afraid), being
the ones with authority from God.
If they are among us, and they are not hiding from us, then please
provide an (undoctored) photograph of a real angel, or better yet,
tell us where we can go see for ourselves.
lojbab
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
05 Jul 2007 12:44:12 PM |
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In article <9tnn83t4onu8ejdr1cste1oiigso3gfaje@4ax.com> Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> writes:
Wide Eyed in Wonder <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
God WILL bend us all to His will when He returns...EVERY knee will
bow, even those that go to hell.
So you now claim that the God you worship is a puppet-master and we
don't actually have free will.
Also, I said it is as SATAN would see it, not Christians.
If you can read the mind of Satan, it is only because you are in his
service.
Satan hates God and sees Him as a cruel dictator,
So do you - you just said so:
God WILL bend us all to His will when He returns...EVERY knee will
bow, even those that go to hell.
Only a cruel dictator would force people who supposedly hate him to
bend to his will.
Satan doesn't really CARE
if you see things his way or do things his way, so long as you don't
do it God's way,
And you know this because ...
Further, angels don't "hide" among us (as if they were afraid), being
the ones with authority from God.
If they are among us, and they are not hiding from us, then please
provide an (undoctored) photograph of a real angel, or better yet,
tell us where we can go see for ourselves.
Just keep watching the tabloid rack at the supermarket checkout.
-- cary
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| User: "Feisty" |
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| Title: Re: Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
03 Jul 2007 06:26:39 PM |
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"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1183497449.437015.130480@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
Well, they are at it again. After Spielberg and Cruise made the
Scientologist War of the World version, Spielberg has now the
Scientologist Transformers version. It should've been obvious, but I
wasn't thinking. Just think about it...
An alien race lives hidden among us on the Earth at war with a hidden
overlord somewhere else. They join with us against the overlord that
is coming to Earth to reign. This is the plot of Scientology. It is
also the way that Satan sees our world (thus, Scientology is Satanism
lite).
From the viewpoint of the devil, he and his angels crashed on the
Earth (when they fell from Heaven), overthrew their overseers (mankind
in Eden) and live hidden upon the Earth (in human bodies, which is how
the Scientologists say the spirits hide, too). They, being at war
with another race like them (Angels among us) rally man against the
coming overlord (God) who will come to reign on the Earth.
Transformers (a film about the race that hides within things we see
here...like demons) is a Scintology (or Satanism, if you will) film.
Ken Clifton
-author of The Christian Superhero Training Guide
http://www.christiansuperhero.com
Sounds like you are a ConstructiCON
Sincerely,
Optimus Prime
I see bar codes everywhere!
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| User: "jerald" |
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| Title: Re: Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
03 Jul 2007 06:30:49 PM |
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On Jul 3, 6:26 pm, "Feisty" <s...@skytoday.com> wrote:
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1183497449.437015.130480@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
Well, they are at it again. After Spielberg and Cruise made the
Scientologist War of the World version, Spielberg has now the
Scientologist Transformers version. It should've been obvious, but I
wasn't thinking. Just think about it...
An alien race lives hidden among us on the Earth at war with a hidden
overlord somewhere else. They join with us against the overlord that
is coming to Earth to reign. This is the plot of Scientology. It is
also the way that Satan sees our world (thus, Scientology is Satanism
lite).
From the viewpoint of the devil, he and his angels crashed on the
Earth (when they fell from Heaven), overthrew their overseers (mankind
in Eden) and live hidden upon the Earth (in human bodies, which is how
the Scientologists say the spirits hide, too). They, being at war
with another race like them (Angels among us) rally man against the
coming overlord (God) who will come to reign on the Earth.
Transformers (a film about the race that hides within things we see
here...like demons) is a Scintology (or Satanism, if you will) film.
Ken Clifton
-author of The Christian Superhero Training Guide
http://www.christiansuperhero.com
Sounds like you are a ConstructiCON
Sincerely,
Optimus Prime
I see bar codes everywhere!- Hide quoted text -
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LOL Maureen,
He doesn't seem to know much about it does he? Or maybe I should feel
bad because I do know the story. LOL
jerald
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| User: "Derek Janssen" |
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| Title: Re: Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
03 Jul 2007 06:51:21 PM |
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jerald wrote:
On Jul 3, 6:26 pm, "Feisty" <s...@skytoday.com> wrote:
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1183497449.437015.130480@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
Well, they are at it again. After Spielberg and Cruise made the
Scientologist War of the World version, Spielberg has now the
Scientologist Transformers version. It should've been obvious, but I
wasn't thinking. Just think about it...
Ken Clifton
-author of The Christian Superhero Training Guide
http://www.christiansuperhero.com
Sounds like you are a ConstructiCON
Sincerely,
Optimus Prime
LOL Maureen,
He doesn't seem to know much about it does he? Or maybe I should feel
bad because I do know the story. LOL
He's definitely LONG since passed the "Christian interpretation of Comic
Book Guy geek-movies" phase where he thought he was actually
accomplishing something--
And now just trying to last-ditch ad-lib a good hype article out for
every blockbuster out there so he can get that net-k00k Celebrity value
out for immortality, whether or not he has any content to attach to them
anymore.
(I mean, darn, y'knowww, couldn't he scrape up just *one* old "New
Testament Autobot allegory" thing again, just for campy nostalgia value?)
Derek Janssen (this new commercialized one's too dull, I miss the old
REAL free-lance k00k!) :(
ejanss@comcast.net
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| User: "Feminazi Cuntkins" |
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03 Jul 2007 07:28:26 PM |
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On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:26:39 GMT, "Feisty" <sunny@skytoday.com> wrote:
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1183497449.437015.130480@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
It should've been obvious, but I
wasn't thinking. Just think about it...
Okay, too easy.
Transformers (a film about the race that hides within things we see
here...like demons) is a Scintology (or Satanism, if you will) film.
Ken Clifton
-author of The Christian Superhero Training Guide
http://www.christiansuperhero.com
Sounds like you are a ConstructiCON
Sincerely,
Optimus Prime
Har, Optimus Prime, I will Care Bear Stare you!
FNC, until Mr Rogers shows up, at any rate.
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| User: "Stealth Tuba" |
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| Title: Re: Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
03 Jul 2007 07:44:59 PM |
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Feminazi Cuntkins wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:26:39 GMT, "Feisty" <sunny@skytoday.com> wrote:
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1183497449.437015.130480@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
It should've been obvious, but I
wasn't thinking. Just think about it...
Okay, too easy.
Transformers (a film about the race that hides within things we see
here...like demons) is a Scintology (or Satanism, if you will) film.
Ken Clifton
-author of The Christian Superhero Training Guide
http://www.christiansuperhero.com
Sounds like you are a ConstructiCON
Sincerely,
Optimus Prime
Har, Optimus Prime, I will Care Bear Stare you!
FNC, until Mr Rogers shows up, at any rate.
The religiwiggy were dissing the Care Bears twenty years ago:
THE CARE BEARS
Another group of cuddly and cute cartoon characters are those
adorable Care Bears. One of the popular themes of various Care Bear
programs is self esteem. On the back cover of their "Feeling Good"
video children are instructed" "All hearts on deck...Come aboard
with The Care Bears...Feel good and watch bad thoughts sink while
self-confidence sets sail!"
In II Timothy 3:1-2 we read "that in the last days perilous times
shall come. For me shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous,
boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful,
unholy."
The problem, according to Scripture, is not that man does not love
himself or that he lacks self-esteem. The problem is that man loves
himself to much. And here we have toddlers learning "selfism" so
popular in the New Age because that is what The Care Bears are
telling them.
Also, "Media Spotlight" noted: "The Care Bears stare is an intense
concentration through which the Care Bears focus the energy in
their torsos in order to produce a "force" to overcome evil with
which they are confronted on their missions. If this sounds a bit
Eastern and mystical, we needn't be surprised." (34)
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
05 Jul 2007 12:10:16 PM |
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In article <1183497449.437015.130480@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Wide Eyed in Wonder <writingken@yahoo.com> writes:
Well, they are at it again. After Spielberg and Cruise made the
Scientologist War of the World version, Spielberg has now the
Scientologist Transformers version. It should've been obvious, but I
wasn't thinking. Just think about it...
An alien race lives hidden among us on the Earth at war with a hidden
overlord somewhere else. They join with us against the overlord that
is coming to Earth to reign. This is the plot of Scientology. It is
also the way that Satan sees our world (thus, Scientology is Satanism
lite).
From the viewpoint of the devil, he and his angels crashed on the
Earth (when they fell from Heaven), overthrew their overseers (mankind
in Eden) and live hidden upon the Earth (in human bodies, which is how
the Scientologists say the spirits hide, too). They, being at war
with another race like them (Angels among us) rally man against the
coming overlord (God) who will come to reign on the Earth.
Transformers (a film about the race that hides within things we see
here...like demons) is a Scintology (or Satanism, if you will) film.
You know, as someone who has been reading about the CoS for
fifteen years now, I might comment -- and I mean this sincerely --
could you possibly have gotten it more wrong?
-- cary
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| User: "BTR1701" |
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| Title: Re: Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
03 Jul 2007 11:17:08 PM |
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In article <1183497449.437015.130480@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>,
Wide Eyed in Wonder <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, they are at it again. After Spielberg and Cruise made the
Scientologist War of the World version, Spielberg has now the
Scientologist Transformers version. It should've been obvious, but I
wasn't thinking. Just think about it...
An alien race lives hidden among us on the Earth at war with a hidden
overlord somewhere else. They join with us against the overlord that
is coming to Earth to reign. This is the plot of Scientology. It is
also the way that Satan sees our world (thus, Scientology is Satanism
lite).
From the viewpoint of the devil, he and his angels crashed on the
Earth (when they fell from Heaven), overthrew their overseers (mankind
in Eden) and live hidden upon the Earth (in human bodies, which is how
the Scientologists say the spirits hide, too). They, being at war
with another race like them (Angels among us) rally man against the
coming overlord (God) who will come to reign on the Earth.
Transformers (a film about the race that hides within things we see
here...like demons) is a Scintology (or Satanism, if you will) film.
You really need to lighten up and quit seeing bogeymen everywhere.
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| User: "jerald" |
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| Title: Re: Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
03 Jul 2007 05:40:57 PM |
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On Jul 3, 4:17 pm, Wide Eyed in Wonder <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, they are at it again. After Spielberg and Cruise made the
Scientologist War of the World version, Spielberg has now the
Scientologist Transformers version. It should've been obvious, but I
wasn't thinking. Just think about it...
An alien race lives hidden among us on the Earth at war with a hidden
overlord somewhere else. They join with us against the overlord that
is coming to Earth to reign. This is the plot of Scientology. It is
also the way that Satan sees our world (thus, Scientology is Satanism
lite).
From the viewpoint of the devil, he and his angels crashed on the
Earth (when they fell from Heaven), overthrew their overseers (mankind
in Eden) and live hidden upon the Earth (in human bodies, which is how
the Scientologists say the spirits hide, too). They, being at war
with another race like them (Angels among us) rally man against the
coming overlord (God) who will come to reign on the Earth.
Transformers (a film about the race that hides within things we see
here...like demons) is a Scintology (or Satanism, if you will) film.
Ken Clifton
-author of The Christian Superhero Training Guidehttp://www.christiansuperhero.com
And sometimes a story is just a story.
jerald
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| User: "Flasherly" |
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| Title: Re: Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
03 Jul 2007 05:59:28 PM |
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On Jul 3, 5:17 pm, Wide Eyed in Wonder <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, they are at it again. After Spielberg and Cruise made the
Scientologist War of the World version, Spielberg has now the
Scientologist Transformers version. It should've been obvious, but I
wasn't thinking. Just think about it...
An alien race lives hidden among us on the Earth at war with a hidden
overlord somewhere else. They join with us against the overlord that
is coming to Earth to reign. This is the plot of Scientology. It is
also the way that Satan sees our world (thus, Scientology is Satanism
lite).
From the viewpoint of the devil, he and his angels crashed on the
Earth (when they fell from Heaven), overthrew their overseers (mankind
in Eden) and live hidden upon the Earth (in human bodies, which is how
the Scientologists say the spirits hide, too). They, being at war
with another race like them (Angels among us) rally man against the
coming overlord (God) who will come to reign on the Earth.
Transformers (a film about the race that hides within things we see
here...like demons) is a Scintology (or Satanism, if you will) film.
Ken Clifton
-author of The Christian Superhero Training Guidehttp://www.christiansuperhero.com
Apart from DIANETICS: THE EVOLUTION OF A SCIENCE, (I thought, perhaps)
he wrote science fiction. Raised by a career naval military officer
and feminist, an early relocation to the West of Montana inspired a
spiritual awakening derived in American Indian lore. Subsequent
development included advancing to First and Youngest American Boy
Scout Eagle, assimilation of Alistair Crowley's Satanism, assaying
Eastern philosophy and Freudian psychoanalysis. He first wrote pulp
fiction under various pseudonyms, short stories of a fantastical
nature, before applying himself wholly to Scientology, it's discovery
of past conditions and lives affecting current character development
until audited and the condition alleviated.
Other than pulp fiction stories, Battlefield Earth and Mission Earth,
he doesn't appear to have been a prolific sci-fi novel writer. A
controversial figure, to say the least.
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| User: "jerald" |
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| Title: Re: Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
03 Jul 2007 06:07:36 PM |
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On Jul 3, 5:59 pm, Flasherly <gjerr...@ij.net> wrote:
On Jul 3, 5:17 pm, Wide Eyed in Wonder <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, they are at it again. After Spielberg and Cruise made the
Scientologist War of the World version, Spielberg has now the
Scientologist Transformers version. It should've been obvious, but I
wasn't thinking. Just think about it...
An alien race lives hidden among us on the Earth at war with a hidden
overlord somewhere else. They join with us against the overlord that
is coming to Earth to reign. This is the plot of Scientology. It is
also the way that Satan sees our world (thus, Scientology is Satanism
lite).
From the viewpoint of the devil, he and his angels crashed on the
Earth (when they fell from Heaven), overthrew their overseers (mankind
in Eden) and live hidden upon the Earth (in human bodies, which is how
the Scientologists say the spirits hide, too). They, being at war
with another race like them (Angels among us) rally man against the
coming overlord (God) who will come to reign on the Earth.
Transformers (a film about the race that hides within things we see
here...like demons) is a Scintology (or Satanism, if you will) film.
Ken Clifton
-author of The Christian Superhero Training Guidehttp://www.christiansuperhero.com
Apart from DIANETICS: THE EVOLUTION OF A SCIENCE, (I thought, perhaps)
he wrote science fiction. Raised by a career naval military officer
and feminist, an early relocation to the West of Montana inspired a
spiritual awakening derived in American Indian lore. Subsequent
development included advancing to First and Youngest American Boy
Scout Eagle, assimilation of Alistair Crowley's Satanism, assaying
Eastern philosophy and Freudian psychoanalysis. He first wrote pulp
fiction under various pseudonyms, short stories of a fantastical
nature, before applying himself wholly to Scientology, it's discovery
of past conditions and lives affecting current character development
until audited and the condition alleviated.
Other than pulp fiction stories, Battlefield Earth and Mission Earth,
he doesn't appear to have been a prolific sci-fi novel writer. A
controversial figure, to say the least.- Hide quoted text -
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The problem is Wide Eyed doesn't know what he/she is talking about
here. There is no overlord of any kind in the movie or book. No
alien race is hiding on earth. I don't know where he/she got their
info from, but it couldn't be much more wrong.
jerald
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| User: "Stealth Tuba" |
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| Title: Re: Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
03 Jul 2007 04:31:06 PM |
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Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
<snip>
Transformers (a film about the race that hides within things we see
here...like demons) is a Scintology (or Satanism, if you will) film.
Ken Clifton
-author of The Christian Superhero Training Guide
http://www.christiansuperhero.com
The Rapture was in 2000. Why are *you* still here?
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| User: "Zinj" |
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| Title: Re: Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
03 Jul 2007 04:48:37 PM |
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In article <81590$468ac025$cf7049d7$20757@PRIMUS.CA>,
yomamma@example.com says...
Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
<snip>
Transformers (a film about the race that hides within things we see
here...like demons) is a Scintology (or Satanism, if you will) film.
Ken Clifton
-author of The Christian Superhero Training Guide
http://www.christiansuperhero.com
The Rapture was in 2000. Why are *you* still here?
Which reminds me; much like I get a bit of a kick out of reading
Scientology screed, I'm a big fan of the 'Left Behind' type stuff
too (I'm also a Mormon Movie fan).
The 'Left Behind' books as a genre are less than varied and tend to
get into a rut, but, in the first 'Left Behind' *movie* they did a
cute thing with the Rapture.
When the faithful disappeared, their clothes were left in neat,
folded stacks :)
God Is A Woman! In fact; God is 'Big Momma'!!!
Zinj
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You Can Lead a Clam to Reason; but You Can't Make Him Think
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| User: "ravenlynne" |
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| Title: Re: Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
04 Jul 2007 01:14:54 AM |
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The 'Left Behind' books as a genre are less than varied and tend to
get into a rut, but, in the first 'Left Behind' movie they did a
cute thing with the Rapture.
When the faithful disappeared, their clothes were left in neat,
folded stacks :)
God Is A Woman! In fact; God is 'Big Momma'!!!
Zinj
I read all of the left behind books. Never mind that I skipped over
the preach parts and the bible verses and stuck to the apocalypse.
Loved the little dudes on horses flying around.
--
-Gina in Italy
Favorite phrase of the day: Messiah-envy
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| User: "George Peatty" |
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| Title: Re: Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
03 Jul 2007 06:30:11 PM |
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On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 17:48:37 -0400, Zinj <zinjifar@yahoo.com> wrote:
God Is A Woman! In fact; God is 'Big Momma'!!!
One of the names of God is El Shaddai, normally rendered Almighty God, when
the more appropriate translation is All-Sufficient God. Shad is the Hebrew
word for breast ..
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| User: "Glenn" |
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| Title: Re: Warning - Transformers a Scientology Picture! |
03 Jul 2007 05:50:58 PM |
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Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
Well, they are at it again. After Spielberg and Cruise made the
Scientologist War of the World version, Spielberg has now the
Scientologist Transformers version. It should've been obvious, but I
wasn't thinking.
OOopppsss, sorry 'bout that, Wide Eyed in Wonder!
What can I say, but DUH^9
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| User: "Glenn" |
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03 Jul 2007 05:49:50 PM |
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Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
Well, they are at it again. After Spielberg and Cruise made the
Scientologist War of the World version, Spielberg has now the
Scientologist Transformers version. It should've been obvious, but I
wasn't thinking. Just think about it...
Thanks for the head's up, gk!!!!!
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