Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146686107.383892.271140@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <writingken@yahoo.com> writes:

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146684028.263120.293580@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146682406.777934.48540@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article
<1146680671.011424.27690@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article
<1146678870.126137.158240@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:

Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:

Jesus loves me, this I know. For the Bible tells me
so. Little ones
to Him belong. They are weak, but He is strong.

Ahhh, the wisdom of a child.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

Jesus loves me - opposed to the world's view that God
hates man.

This I know - opposed to the world's view that we can
no nothing for
certain.

For the Bible tells me so - opposed to the world's view
that the God
that made the earth cannot write a book.

Little ones to Him belong - opposed to the world's view
that little
ones are persons with full rights and that anyone would
BELONG to God.

They are weak - opposed to the world's view that man
needs God's help.

But He is strong - opposed to the world's view that
God cannot or will
not help man.

You might want to pass that comforting thought on the
parents of
the 30,000 children who God will let die today, primarily
of
starvation and disease.

-- cary

Yes, the effects of sin and Satan are so sad.

Not so sad as those 10.9 million kids a year for whom He was
not strong enough to protect.


-- cary

At the hands of whom? If God gave them life with a purpose and
willingly took that life away. He would be divided against
Himself.
Would He not? So, who took the life away from the sinful body
infected
child of God rebels.

Um, I'm not going to be able to answer that until you clarify
the phrase "sinful body infected child of God rebels" for
me, I do not have a clue what you meant by that.


-- cary

That our flesh has been sin infected since Adam and Eve (with
sickness
and such as a result), which affects the children, and the children
are
children of mankind that turned it's back on God yet expects Him to
honor them as fully as before the fall. Now, answer.

My answer is that if this is the case, it makes a total mockery of
"They are weak, but He is strong." Clearly this "strong" God fails
to help eleven million children a year -- and now you tell us that
His
failure has nothing to do with them, but is instead due to His having
designed a system where they are at risk due to something two other
people
did six thousand years ago.

Some god you got there. If He were human, and acted in so careless
a fashion, he'd have his kids taken from him so fast you wouldn't
have
time to blink.

-- cary

If I were to take your kid and tell them about sex, do you think that
is ok...without asking you. No? So, you agree that the parent
exercises authority over the child. So, would you like God to respect
that authority or not? If so, the parents have some choice to ask God
to help their child or to deny Him access to help them. Correct?

Beg pardon? God allows a two-year old to die of malaria or starvation
out of respect for the rights of its parents?

Or are you suggesting that when one of those dreadful periodic
mass famines hits Africa, wiping out entire villages, kids
whose parents prayed for help somehow survived?

-- cary

How are you missing something so obvious, unless you are intentionally
trying to mis-state it? The child is sick because human flesh is
infected with sin by Adam and Eve's introduction of sin. The parents
of the child that died failed to trust God to save the child, which
would allow Him to operate.

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146686107.383892.271140@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <writingken@yahoo.com> writes:

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146684028.263120.293580@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146682406.777934.48540@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146680671.011424.27690@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146678870.126137.158240@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:

Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:

Jesus loves me, this I know. For the Bible tells me so. Little ones
to Him belong. They are weak, but He is strong.

Ahhh, the wisdom of a child.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

Jesus loves me - opposed to the world's view that God hates man.

This I know - opposed to the world's view that we can no nothing for
certain.

For the Bible tells me so - opposed to the world's view that the God
that made the earth cannot write a book.

Little ones to Him belong - opposed to the world's view that little
ones are persons with full rights and that anyone would BELONG to God.

They are weak - opposed to the world's view that man needs God's help.

But He is strong - opposed to the world's view that God cannot or will
not help man.

You might want to pass that comforting thought on the parents of
the 30,000 children who God will let die today, primarily of
starvation and disease.

-- cary

Yes, the effects of sin and Satan are so sad.

Not so sad as those 10.9 million kids a year for whom He was
not strong enough to protect.


-- cary

At the hands of whom? If God gave them life with a purpose and
willingly took that life away. He would be divided against Himself.
Would He not? So, who took the life away from the sinful body infected
child of God rebels.

Um, I'm not going to be able to answer that until you clarify
the phrase "sinful body infected child of God rebels" for
me, I do not have a clue what you meant by that.


-- cary

That our flesh has been sin infected since Adam and Eve (with sickness
and such as a result), which affects the children, and the children are
children of mankind that turned it's back on God yet expects Him to
honor them as fully as before the fall. Now, answer.

My answer is that if this is the case, it makes a total mockery of
"They are weak, but He is strong." Clearly this "strong" God fails
to help eleven million children a year -- and now you tell us that His
failure has nothing to do with them, but is instead due to His having
designed a system where they are at risk due to something two other people
did six thousand years ago.

Some god you got there. If He were human, and acted in so careless
a fashion, he'd have his kids taken from him so fast you wouldn't have
time to blink.

-- cary

If I were to take your kid and tell them about sex, do you think that
is ok...without asking you. No? So, you agree that the parent
exercises authority over the child. So, would you like God to respect
that authority or not? If so, the parents have some choice to ask God
to help their child or to deny Him access to help them. Correct?

Beg pardon? God allows a two-year old to die of malaria or starvation
out of respect for the rights of its parents?

Or are you suggesting that when one of those dreadful periodic
mass famines hits Africa, wiping out entire villages, kids
whose parents prayed for help somehow survived?

-- cary

How are you missing something so obvious, unless you are intentionally
trying to mis-state it? The child is sick because human flesh is
infected with sin by Adam and Eve's introduction of sin. The parents
of the child that died failed to trust God to save the child, which
would allow Him to operate.

The parents of the child that died failed to trust God to save
the child, which would allow Him to operate.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146686107.383892.271140@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <writingken@yahoo.com> writes:

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146684028.263120.293580@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146682406.777934.48540@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146680671.011424.27690@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:

Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146678870.126137.158240@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:

Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:

Jesus loves me, this I know. For the Bible tells me so. Little
ones
to Him belong. They are weak, but He is strong.

Ahhh, the wisdom of a child.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

Jesus loves me - opposed to the world's view that God hates man.

This I know - opposed to the world's view that we can no nothing
for
certain.

For the Bible tells me so - opposed to the world's view that the
God
that made the earth cannot write a book.

Little ones to Him belong - opposed to the world's view that little
ones are persons with full rights and that anyone would BELONG to
God.

They are weak - opposed to the world's view that man needs God's
help.

But He is strong - opposed to the world's view that God cannot or
will
not help man.

You might want to pass that comforting thought on the parents of
the 30,000 children who God will let die today, primarily of
starvation and disease.

-- cary

Yes, the effects of sin and Satan are so sad.

Not so sad as those 10.9 million kids a year for whom He was
not strong enough to protect.


-- cary

At the hands of whom? If God gave them life with a purpose and
willingly took that life away. He would be divided against Himself.
Would He not? So, who took the life away from the sinful body infected
child of God rebels.

Um, I'm not going to be able to answer that until you clarify
the phrase "sinful body infected child of God rebels" for
me, I do not have a clue what you meant by that.


-- cary

That our flesh has been sin infected since Adam and Eve (with sickness
and such as a result), which affects the children, and the children are
children of mankind that turned it's back on God yet expects Him to
honor them as fully as before the fall. Now, answer.

My answer is that if this is the case, it makes a total mockery of
"They are weak, but He is strong." Clearly this "strong" God fails
to help eleven million children a year -- and now you tell us that His
failure has nothing to do with them, but is instead due to His having
designed a system where they are at risk due to something two other people
did six thousand years ago.

Some god you got there. If He were human, and acted in so careless
a fashion, he'd have his kids taken from him so fast you wouldn't have
time to blink.

-- cary

If I were to take your kid and tell them about sex, do you think that
is ok...without asking you. No? So, you agree that the parent
exercises authority over the child. So, would you like God to respect
that authority or not? If so, the parents have some choice to ask God
to help their child or to deny Him access to help them. Correct?

Beg pardon? God allows a two-year old to die of malaria or starvation
out of respect for the rights of its parents?

Or are you suggesting that when one of those dreadful periodic
mass famines hits Africa, wiping out entire villages, kids
whose parents prayed for help somehow survived?

-- cary

How are you missing something so obvious, unless you are intentionally
trying to mis-state it? The child is sick because human flesh is
infected with sin by Adam and Eve's introduction of sin. The parents
of the child that died failed to trust God to save the child, which
would allow Him to operate.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

How are you missing something so obvious, unless you are intentionally
trying to mis-state it? The child is sick because human flesh is
infected with sin by Adam and Eve's introduction of sin. The parents
of the child that died failed to trust God to save the child, which
would allow Him to operate.