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Topic: Science > Philosophy
User: "Kan"
Date: 21 Dec 2006 03:45:34 PM
Object: A new meaning to an old phrase
When you say "I think - therefore I am"
This in general means that if you do think then you exist.
When I first came upon this phrase I thought it meant
"I think I am a five year old boy called Peter. Therefore I am a five year
old boy called Peter"
"I think I am Krishna. Therefore I am Krishna"
"I think I am a little white bird. Therefore I am a little white bird"
The experiences I had were astonishing (to coin a word from Milan)
The actual thinking, thought processes, memories of existence, humour,
personality, character, and a myriad other things were totally different in
each case.
I do all this kind of thing under guidance from The Masters of course.
God is an interesting one - but there are different kinds of Gods you can
be.
God is like the basic version.
But you can be:-
The girl God.
The God called Peter.
The kind God.
The God who has no knowing.
The invisible God
The possibilities are endless - from a snowflake to one of my favourites
which is the Borg Queen.
You can't have the Borg Queen - I have bagged her - and I have bagged God
and Krishna.
I have never been tempted to try Brian or Clot - but Warrior of the Universe
is great - and I wore black and strode around with complete confidence for
several days and was taller than the local chemist who must be six feet
tall. Ruler of the Universe you will find is female - but Master of the
Universe is male.
One of the best really, categorically and emphatically is Borg
Try calling yourself something and then "I think therefore I am" and become
that someone.
Do not listen to people like Michael Gordge who call you "f******* commie
c***"
Try calling yourself sweetie pie and BECOME a sweetie pie.
It is extraordinary how nice you become when you are a sweetie pie.
.

User: "Milan"

Title: Re: A new meaning to an old phrase 21 Dec 2006 04:11:29 PM
"Kan" <kan@homeworld.com> wrote in message
news:2gDih.14842$Qa6.2736@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...

When you say "I think - therefore I am"
This in general means that if you do think then you exist.

When I first came upon this phrase I thought it meant
"I think I am a five year old boy called Peter. Therefore I am a five
year old boy called Peter"
"I think I am Krishna. Therefore I am Krishna"
"I think I am a little white bird. Therefore I am a little white bird"

The experiences I had were astonishing (to coin a word from Milan)

The actual thinking, thought processes, memories of existence, humour,
personality, character, and a myriad other things were totally different
in each case.

I do all this kind of thing under guidance from The Masters of course.

God is an interesting one - but there are different kinds of Gods you can
be.
God is like the basic version.
But you can be:-
The girl God.
The God called Peter.
The kind God.
The God who has no knowing.
The invisible God

The possibilities are endless - from a snowflake to one of my favourites
which is the Borg Queen.

You can't have the Borg Queen - I have bagged her - and I have bagged God
and Krishna.

I have never been tempted to try Brian or Clot - but Warrior of the
Universe is great - and I wore black and strode around with complete
confidence for several days and was taller than the local chemist who must
be six feet tall. Ruler of the Universe you will find is female - but
Master of the Universe is male.

One of the best really, categorically and emphatically is Borg

Try calling yourself something and then "I think therefore I am" and
become that someone.
Do not listen to people like Michael Gordge who call you "f******* commie
c***"
Try calling yourself sweetie pie and BECOME a sweetie pie.
It is extraordinary how nice you become when you are a sweetie pie.

You're back from the pub early, man. It's just 10 pm.
regards
Milan
.
User: "Kan"

Title: Re: A new meaning to an old phrase 21 Dec 2006 04:40:57 PM
"Milan" <mtklima@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4v0fbcF1a2hd6U1@mid.individual.net...

You're back from the pub early, man. It's just 10 pm.

You wait until I am have had a few drinks man!
This is just on tea.
Then I will tell you some of my best friends are teacups and how I know the
names of every single individual prawn.
Incidentally I bought "The Catcher in the Rye on your recommendation - have
not read it yet though.
Ties in nicely with Sir Fredericks rye bread eh?
Nice bit of synchronicity there for you!
.
User: "Milan"

Title: Re: A new meaning to an old phrase 21 Dec 2006 04:45:59 PM
"Kan" <kan@homeworld.com> wrote in message
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"Milan" <mtklima@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4v0fbcF1a2hd6U1@mid.individual.net...

You're back from the pub early, man. It's just 10 pm.

You wait until I am have had a few drinks man!
This is just on tea.
Then I will tell you some of my best friends are teacups and how I know
the
names of every single individual prawn.
Incidentally I bought "The Catcher in the Rye on your recommendation -
have
not read it yet though.
Ties in nicely with Sir Fredericks rye bread eh?
Nice bit of synchronicity there for you!

I dont recall ever recommending Catcher in the Rye to you. But it's a great
book. All Salinger's stuff is first class. Hope you enjoy it.
regards
Milan
.
User: "Kan"

Title: Re: A new meaning to an old phrase 21 Dec 2006 04:59:11 PM
"Milan" <mtklima@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I dont recall ever recommending Catcher in the Rye to you. But it's a
great book. All Salinger's stuff is first class. Hope you enjoy it.

regards
Milan

As long as it is nothing like the Bible or Dennis Wheatley I am sure I will
.




User: "Sammybaby"

Title: Re: A new meaning to an old phrase 22 Dec 2006 04:11:35 AM
I think there are, truly, some people who can change the words in their
heads - that they are conscious of - and have radical experiences.
They often seem flighty to me and not so deep, but I have come to see
that they really can do this. Many other people actually notice that
changing the words - that they are conscious of - does not touch all
portions of themselves. There is magic, but it takes more time, these
days at least. I really hope the first group of people notices that 1)
they are not reaching parts of the emotional body and 2) that those who
are more in contact with their emotional bodies have something very
valuable to offer, though perhaps nto the same thing as the more
angelic tip of the iceberg people. Cause up to now this angelic group
has at best looked down other the others and subtly implied that they
had an attitude problem. Which was a shallow interpretation. And it
has kept the splits in place.
But maybe that was their intention.
Kan wrote:

When you say "I think - therefore I am"
This in general means that if you do think then you exist.

When I first came upon this phrase I thought it meant
"I think I am a five year old boy called Peter. Therefore I am a five year
old boy called Peter"
"I think I am Krishna. Therefore I am Krishna"
"I think I am a little white bird. Therefore I am a little white bird"

The experiences I had were astonishing (to coin a word from Milan)

The actual thinking, thought processes, memories of existence, humour,
personality, character, and a myriad other things were totally different in
each case.

I do all this kind of thing under guidance from The Masters of course.

God is an interesting one - but there are different kinds of Gods you can
be.
God is like the basic version.
But you can be:-
The girl God.
The God called Peter.
The kind God.
The God who has no knowing.
The invisible God

The possibilities are endless - from a snowflake to one of my favourites
which is the Borg Queen.

You can't have the Borg Queen - I have bagged her - and I have bagged God
and Krishna.

I have never been tempted to try Brian or Clot - but Warrior of the Universe
is great - and I wore black and strode around with complete confidence for
several days and was taller than the local chemist who must be six feet
tall. Ruler of the Universe you will find is female - but Master of the
Universe is male.

One of the best really, categorically and emphatically is Borg

Try calling yourself something and then "I think therefore I am" and become
that someone.
Do not listen to people like Michael Gordge who call you "f******* commie
c***"
Try calling yourself sweetie pie and BECOME a sweetie pie.
It is extraordinary how nice you become when you are a sweetie pie.

.

User: "Sphere"

Title: Re: A new meaning to an old phrase 21 Dec 2006 06:31:27 PM
New?
Since I am only a story I can be any story. This
follows directly from exhaustion of the Self.
---
No essence. No permanence. No perfection.
.
User: "Sir Frederick"

Title: Re: A new meaning to an old phrase 21 Dec 2006 08:16:30 PM
On 21 Dec 2006 16:31:27 -0800, "Sphere" <sphere1952@gmail.com> wrote:

New?

Since I am only a story I can be any story. This
follows directly from exhaustion of the Self.
---
No essence. No permanence. No perfection.

That particular story (personification) has been with us for so long, it seems
to be bred in. Bred in and produced by genetics and development,
to varying degrees. In my case my personhood story is relatively
weak as a touch of autism (Asperger's syndrome) can do that.
That particular story (personification) has been with us for so long, it seems
buttressed by hubris.
.


User: "Sir Frederick"

Title: Re: A new meaning to an old phrase 21 Dec 2006 04:15:10 PM
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 21:45:34 GMT, "Kan" <kan@homeworld.com> wrote:

When you say "I think - therefore I am"
This in general means that if you do think then you exist.

When I first came upon this phrase I thought it meant
"I think I am a five year old boy called Peter. Therefore I am a five year
old boy called Peter"
"I think I am Krishna. Therefore I am Krishna"
"I think I am a little white bird. Therefore I am a little white bird"

The experiences I had were astonishing (to coin a word from Milan)

The actual thinking, thought processes, memories of existence, humour,
personality, character, and a myriad other things were totally different in
each case.

I do all this kind of thing under guidance from The Masters of course.

God is an interesting one - but there are different kinds of Gods you can
be.
God is like the basic version.
But you can be:-
The girl God.
The God called Peter.
The kind God.
The God who has no knowing.
The invisible God

The possibilities are endless - from a snowflake to one of my favourites
which is the Borg Queen.

You can't have the Borg Queen - I have bagged her - and I have bagged God
and Krishna.

I have never been tempted to try Brian or Clot - but Warrior of the Universe
is great - and I wore black and strode around with complete confidence for
several days and was taller than the local chemist who must be six feet
tall. Ruler of the Universe you will find is female - but Master of the
Universe is male.

One of the best really, categorically and emphatically is Borg

Try calling yourself something and then "I think therefore I am" and become
that someone.
Do not listen to people like Michael Gordge who call you "f******* commie
c***"
Try calling yourself sweetie pie and BECOME a sweetie pie.
It is extraordinary how nice you become when you are a sweetie pie.

Personification is such a practiced story, including self personification.
.
User: "Kan"

Title: Re: A new meaning to an old phrase 21 Dec 2006 04:36:17 PM
"Sir Frederick" <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
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Personification is such a practiced story, including self personification.

Ever the unkind.
Ever the discouraging.
Always quick to criticize.
Always quick to demean and to make others feel inferior.
You did not learn much from your self personification then?
.
User: "tooly"

Title: Re: A new meaning to an old phrase 21 Dec 2006 07:21:51 PM
"Kan" <kan@homeworld.com> wrote in message
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"Sir Frederick" <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
news:2n1mo2tu50itj5l7gbp0gi47tmr2e38uo9@4ax.com...

Personification is such a practiced story, including self
personification.


Ever the unkind.
Ever the discouraging.
Always quick to criticize.
Always quick to demean and to make others feel inferior.

You did not learn much from your self personification then?

He he...Touche'...
.



User: ""

Title: Re: A new meaning to an old phrase 22 Dec 2006 02:34:28 PM
That's just silly.
Also, I think therefor I am... means something else entirely.
It's an answer to the question "Do I exist".
How can you prove that you exist?
Well, to even think, requires a thinker. Therefore, to doubt your own
existance proves that you do exist. In fact to think anything proves
that you exist. If you think of blue cheese, then you exist.
It doesn't mean you ARE what you think.
That's just nonsense and has never been true. It just means you are,
something.
.


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