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"Bret Cahill" |
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10 Jan 2008 11:05:36 AM |
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About That 14 Point Polling Error |
- not to mention that you've got their political slant completely
backasswards. Brat, they're on *your* side.
If the corp. boss controllled ***** media were on the side of the
American people you wouldn't see 14 point spreads between what voters
tell pollsters and how they vote.
Bret Cahill
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| User: "Ralph" |
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| Title: Re: About That 14 Point Polling Error |
11 Jan 2008 03:47:58 AM |
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Bret Cahill <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote:
- not to mention that you've got their political slant completely
backasswards. Brat, they're on *your* side.
If the corp. boss controllled ***** media were on the side of the
American people you wouldn't see 14 point spreads between what voters
tell pollsters and how they vote.
If a democrat gets elected contradicting the polls, then it's the fault
of the people they polled, but if a republican gets elected
contradicting the polls then it's a stolen election.
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| User: "Bret Cahill" |
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| Title: Re: About That 14 Point Polling Error |
11 Jan 2008 10:39:29 AM |
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- not to mention that you've got their political slant completely
backasswards. Brat, they're on *your* side.
If the corp. boss controllled ***** media were on the side of the
American people you wouldn't see 14 point spreads between what voters
tell pollsters and how they vote.
If a democrat gets elected contradicting the polls, then it's the fault
of the people they polled, but if a republican gets elected
contradicting the polls then it's a stolen election.
There are only two situations with a poll:
1. If nothing is going on, then polls will be correct but meaningless
because nothing is going on.
2. something is going on, then the polls will be wrong but will
indicate something is going on.
So only real value of polls is after the election to indicate is
something _was_ going on.
Polls are therefore most useful in primaries.
Bret Cahill
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| User: "Jesus taste like chicken" |
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| Title: Re: About That 14 Point Polling Error |
11 Jan 2008 04:25:25 AM |
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On Jan 11, 1:47 am, (Ralph) wrote:
Bret Cahill <BretCah...@aol.com> wrote:
- not to mention that you've got their political slant completely
backasswards. Brat, they're on *your* side.
If the corp. boss controllled ***** media were on the side of the
American people you wouldn't see 14 point spreads between what voters
tell pollsters and how they vote.
If a democrat gets elected contradicting the polls, then it's the fault
of the people they polled, but if a republican gets elected
contradicting the polls then it's a stolen election.
And if Ron Paul gets elected, Satan was responsible.
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| User: "Fred Weiss" |
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| Title: Re: About That 14 Point Polling Error |
10 Jan 2008 11:56:00 AM |
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On Jan 10, 12:05 pm, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@aol.com> wrote:
- not to mention that you've got their political slant completely
backasswards. Brat, they're on *your* side.
If the corp. boss controllled ***** media were on the side of the
American people you wouldn't see 14 point spreads between what voters
tell pollsters and how they vote.
Brat, I said they were on your side, not the side of the American
people. Americans are significantly further to the right than the
media. The media is predominantly to the left/left of center. Every
study has shown that. Something like 80% or more of journalists, etc
consider themselves Democrat. Some years ago it was even worse. At
least there are some "conservative" voices in the media today,
especially in talk radio where they dominate - and of course Fox.
Since you guys have always assumed that history was on your side -
especially since you were the guys who were writing it - it's a shock
to you now that things are no longer going your way. It couldn't
possibly be that a lot of people have come to realize that you are
wrong, seriously wrong. It has to be instead some kind of conspiracy.
But sooner or later you will wake up to the fact that the tide of
history is now going against you. If the 20th Cent was yours, the 21st
will be ours. It'd better be or we won't make it to the 22nd.
Fred Weiss
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| User: "Bret Cahill" |
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| Title: Re: About That 14 Point Polling Error |
10 Jan 2008 01:46:35 PM |
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- not to mention that you've got their political slant completely
backasswards. Brat, they're on *your* side.
I've been exposing them as corp. whores for years.
If the corp. boss controllled ***** media were on the side of the
American people you wouldn't see 14 point spreads between what voters
tell pollsters and how they vote.
Brat, I said they were on your side, not the side of the American
people.
Clearly Democrats and even most Americans I agree that the corp. boss
controlled ***** media is not on our side.
Bret Cahill
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| User: "Fred Weiss" |
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| Title: Re: About That 14 Point Polling Error |
11 Jan 2008 07:42:48 AM |
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On Jan 10, 2:46 pm, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@aol.com> wrote:
- not to mention that you've got their political slant completely
backasswards. Brat, they're on *your* side.
I've been exposing them as corp. whores for years.
That's merely one of your many delusions.
The media are predominantly *anti-*corporation. Perhaps they are not
as anti as you would like them to be, but anti they are. Besides, to
be as anti as you they'd have to be as crazy as you and as bad as they
are, they are not quite that bad. I mean, your committable.
As I've said, there has been some positive shift in the right
direction in the last couple of decades - as at least some journalists
acquire a grasp of economics (not to mention have the eyes and honesty
to see the disaster of socialism) - but there is still a long, long
way to go. So, Brat, enjoy what little support you get while it lasts
cuz it ain't gonna be much longer.
Fred Weiss
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| User: "Bret Cahill" |
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| Title: Re: About That 14 Point Polling Error |
11 Jan 2008 10:32:08 AM |
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- not to mention that you've got their political slant completely
backasswards. Brat, they're on *your* side.
.. . .
The media are predominantly *anti-*corporation.
Not only are the corp. boss media corporations by definition, but even
more important, they are sponsored by corp. bosses.
The _New York Times_ "merely omitted" the Holocaust during WWII.
Why?
Because anti-semite robber barons like Henry Ford I would say "jump"
and Shultzberger, Sr. would ask "how high?"
Small time outlets are even more depraved according to my inside
sources.
Perhaps they are not
as anti as you would like them to be,
I'm not anti-corporation. Organizations of some sort help create
wealth.
The problem isn't corporations per se but corporations using the media
to dumb down the public.
The corp. boss controlled media have conflicts of interest with free
speech [for all Americans] and that's why we're getting 14 point
polling errors.
As I've said, there has been some positive shift in the right
direction in the last couple of decades
And their public approval has plummeted from 75% in 1975 to single
digits now.
That's why voters humor the media saying, "yea, I just _love_ that
candidate you've been gush hyping" and then vote for Clinton.
The corp. media are losing subscribers faster than the ancien regime
was losing heads.
The economic insecurity will cause corp. media "journalists" to swing
even further to the right.
That's why they were gushing "9/11 changed EEEEEVERything" like there
was no tomorrow.
There really _is_ no tomorrow for the corp. media whores.
They are in a spiral death trap. The more they swing to the right the
more unpopular they become and the more subscribers the lose. The
more subscribers they lose the more frightened they become and the
more they swing to the right.
Bret Cahill
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| User: "Fred Weiss" |
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| Title: Re: About That 14 Point Polling Error |
10 Jan 2008 12:10:34 PM |
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On Jan 10, 12:56 pm, Fred Weiss <fredwe...@papertig.com> wrote:
It has to be instead some kind of conspiracy.
Conspiracy theories, btw, such as the ones you are constantly spouting
are clearly the last refuge of the intellectually bankrupt. Once you
implicitly acknowledge that ideas no longer matter - and that
mysterious forces are deliberately trying to crush them from behind
the scenes - you have admitted your intellectual impotency.
All that is left is therefore nihilism - environmentalism (which is
merely a thin veneer covering hostility to civilization) being its
primary manifestation.
Fred Weiss
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| User: "Bret Cahill" |
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| Title: Re: About That 14 Point Polling Error |
10 Jan 2008 01:50:22 PM |
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Why are rightards always conspiracy theorists?
Bret Cahill
It has to be instead some kind of conspiracy.
.. . .
Fred Weiss
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