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22 Dec 2007 12:36:10 AM |
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ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT BARKER IS REALLY A DOG |
On Dec 21, 3:32=A0pm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrote:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. These are not Kapleau's words, they are words of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. See. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. The Buddha himself possessed
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. But never did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: BUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER: I SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THAT
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: I WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? DO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROVE? I
DON'T.
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| Title: Re: ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT BARKER IS REALLY A DOG |
22 Dec 2007 02:23:47 AM |
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On Dec 21, 10:36=A0pm, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:32=A0pm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrote:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. =A0These are not Kapleau's words, they are words of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. =A0See. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. =A0The Buddha himself possessed
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. =A0But never did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: =A0BUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER: =A0I SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THAT
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: =A0I WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? =A0DO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROVE? =A0I
DON'T.
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| Title: Re: ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT BARKER IS REALLY A DOG |
22 Dec 2007 06:37:26 AM |
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On Dec 21, 10:36=A0pm, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:32=A0pm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrote:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. =A0These are not Kapleau's words, they are words of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. =A0See. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. =A0The Buddha himself possessed
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. =A0But never did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: =A0BUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER: =A0I SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THAT
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: =A0I WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? =A0DO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROVE? =A0I
DON'T.
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| Title: Re: ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT BARKER IS REALLY A DOG |
22 Dec 2007 09:47:11 AM |
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On Dec 21, 10:36=A0pm, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:32=A0pm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrote:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. =A0These are not Kapleau's words, they are words of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. =A0See. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. =A0The Buddha himself possessed
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. =A0But never did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: =A0BUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER: =A0I SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THAT
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: =A0I WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? =A0DO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROVE? =A0I
DON'T.
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22 Dec 2007 10:25:53 AM |
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On Dec 21, 10:36=A0pm, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:32=A0pm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrote:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. =A0These are not Kapleau's words, they are words of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. =A0See. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. =A0The Buddha himself possessed
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. =A0But never did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: =A0BUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER: =A0I SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THAT
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: =A0I WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? =A0DO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROVE? =A0I
DON'T.
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22 Dec 2007 10:27:28 AM |
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On Dec 22, 4:25=EF=BF=BDpm, wrote:
On Dec 21, 10:36=EF=BF=BDpm, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:32=EF=BF=BDpm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrot=
e:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. =EF=BF=BDThese are not Kapleau's words, they are wor=
ds of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. =EF=BF=BDSee. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. =EF=BF=BDThe Buddha himself possesse=
d
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. =EF=BF=BDBut nev=
er did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: =EF=BF=BDBUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=
!
REMEMBER: =EF=BF=BDI SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THA=
T
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: =EF=BF=BDI WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE=
MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? =EF=BF=BDDO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROV=
E? =EF=BF=BDI
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| Title: Re: ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT BARKER IS REALLY A DOG |
22 Dec 2007 10:30:32 AM |
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On Dec 21, 10:36=A0pm, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:32=A0pm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrote:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. =A0These are not Kapleau's words, they are words of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. =A0See. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. =A0The Buddha himself possessed
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. =A0But never did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: =A0BUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER: =A0I SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THAT
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: =A0I WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? =A0DO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROVE? =A0I
DON'T.
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| Title: Re: ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT BARKER IS REALLY A DOG |
28 Dec 2007 10:18:51 PM |
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<pjmutnick@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:26291c0f-26d4-4d97-af6c-f7b6bc9a2298@x29g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 21, 10:36 pm, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:32 pm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrote:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. These are not Kapleau's words, they are words of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. See. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. The Buddha himself possessed
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. But never did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: BUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER: I SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THAT
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: I WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? DO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROVE? I
DON'T.
I'm not Kapleau, but I disapprove, but who am I to
you? Nobody. And I think you are wasting your
time to think that Buddha HIMSELF is wanting to
be your lord and master. I think that if he could
speak to you now, he would tell you to put your
trust in Jesus.
Suzanne
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| Title: Re: ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT BARKER IS REALLY A DOG |
22 Dec 2007 10:33:50 AM |
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On Dec 21, 10:36=A0pm, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:32=A0pm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrote:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. =A0These are not Kapleau's words, they are words of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. =A0See. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. =A0The Buddha himself possessed
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. =A0But never did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: =A0BUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER: =A0I SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THAT
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: =A0I WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? =A0DO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROVE? =A0I
DON'T.
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| Title: Re: ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT BARKER IS REALLY A DOG |
22 Dec 2007 10:34:46 AM |
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On Dec 21, 10:36=A0pm, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:32=A0pm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrote:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. =A0These are not Kapleau's words, they are words of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. =A0See. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. =A0The Buddha himself possessed
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. =A0But never did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: =A0BUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER: =A0I SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THAT
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: =A0I WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? =A0DO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROVE? =A0I
DON'T.
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| User: "Allen L. Barker" |
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| Title: Re: ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT BARKER IS REALLY A DOG |
22 Dec 2007 04:13:55 PM |
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wrote:
On Dec 21, 10:36 pm, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:32 pm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrote:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. These are not Kapleau's words, they are words of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. See. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. The Buddha himself possessed
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. But never did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: BUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER: I SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THAT
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: I WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? DO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROVE? I
DON'T.
I see that you are back to your lame name-flames, and
your irrationality is in full bloom. That, and you
crookedly cross-post to new and irrelevant groups.
As far as "lying," I said "Kapleau tells a story..."
which is the truth. Do you think he just included a story
in his book that didn't have any relevance at all? In
answering the next question he says, "The story you have
just heard makes clear the threat to Self-realization of
a preoccupation with psychic powers. But there are other
dangers..."
You are the one selectively quoting him to misrepresent
what he was saying.
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| Title: Re: ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT BARKER IS REALLY A DOG |
23 Dec 2007 02:33:03 AM |
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On Dec 21, 10:36=A0pm, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:32=A0pm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrote:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. =A0These are not Kapleau's words, they are words of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. =A0See. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. =A0The Buddha himself possessed
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. =A0But never did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: =A0BUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER: =A0I SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THAT
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: =A0I WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? =A0DO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROVE? =A0I
DON'T.
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23 Dec 2007 05:33:03 AM |
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On Dec 23, 8:33=EF=BF=BDam, wrote:
On Dec 21, 10:36=EF=BF=BDpm, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:32=EF=BF=BDpm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrot=
e:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. =EF=BF=BDThese are not Kapleau's words, they are wor=
ds of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. =EF=BF=BDSee. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. =EF=BF=BDThe Buddha himself possesse=
d
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. =EF=BF=BDBut nev=
er did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: =EF=BF=BDBUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=
!
REMEMBER: =EF=BF=BDI SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THA=
T
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: =EF=BF=BDI WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE=
MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? =EF=BF=BDDO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROV=
E? =EF=BF=BDI
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23 Dec 2007 06:14:59 AM |
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On Dec 21, 10:36=A0pm, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:32=A0pm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrote:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. =A0These are not Kapleau's words, they are words of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. =A0See. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. =A0The Buddha himself possessed
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. =A0But never did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: =A0BUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER: =A0I SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THAT
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: =A0I WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? =A0DO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROVE? =A0I
DON'T.
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| Title: Re: ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT BARKER IS REALLY A DOG |
23 Dec 2007 10:21:50 AM |
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On Dec 21, 10:36=A0pm, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:32=A0pm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrote:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. =A0These are not Kapleau's words, they are words of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. =A0See. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. =A0The Buddha himself possessed
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. =A0But never did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: =A0BUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER: =A0I SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THAT
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: =A0I WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? =A0DO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROVE? =A0I
DON'T.
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| Title: Re: ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT BARKER IS REALLY A DOG |
23 Dec 2007 03:17:20 PM |
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On Dec 21, 10:36=A0pm, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:32=A0pm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrote:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. =A0These are not Kapleau's words, they are words of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. =A0See. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. =A0The Buddha himself possessed
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. =A0But never did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: =A0BUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER: =A0I SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THAT
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: =A0I WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? =A0DO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROVE? =A0I
DON'T.
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| User: "Don Stockbauer" |
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| Title: Re: ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT BARKER IS REALLY A DOG |
22 Dec 2007 12:41:03 AM |
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On Dec 22, 12:36 am, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:32 pm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrote:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. These are not Kapleau's words, they are words of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. See. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. The Buddha himself possessed
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. But never did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: BUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER: I SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THAT
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: I WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? DO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROVE? I
DON'T.
THE BUDDHA SAY MAN WHO LAY WOMAN ON GROUND GET PIECE ON EARTH.
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| User: "Robert Epstein" |
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| Title: Re: ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT BARKER IS REALLY A DOG |
24 Dec 2007 12:26:53 AM |
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Don Stockbauer wrote:
On Dec 22, 12:36 am, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:32 pm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrote:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. These are not Kapleau's words, they are words of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. See. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. The Buddha himself possessed
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. But never did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: BUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER: I SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THAT
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: I WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? DO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROVE? I
DON'T.
THE BUDDHA SAY MAN WHO LAY WOMAN ON GROUND GET PIECE ON EARTH.
Man who go to bed with stiff problem wake up with solution in hand.
robert
= = = = = = = =
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| User: "RaaN" |
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| Title: Re: ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT BARKER IS REALLY A DOG |
24 Dec 2007 07:41:35 AM |
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On Dec 24, 1:26 am, Robert Epstein <vze25...@verizon.net> wrote:
Don Stockbauer wrote:
On Dec 22, 12:36 am, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:32 pm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrote:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. These are not Kapleau's words, they are words of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. See. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. The Buddha himself possessed
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. But never did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: BUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER: I SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THAT
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: I WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? DO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROVE? I
DON'T.
THE BUDDHA SAY MAN WHO LAY WOMAN ON GROUND GET PIECE ON EARTH.
Man who go to bed with stiff problem wake up with solution in hand.
robert
= = = = = = = =
Necro-phallic Wisdom?
--
RaaN
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| User: "John Jones" |
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| Title: THE TRUTH IS BIGGER ON MONDAY'S |
24 Dec 2007 09:45:52 AM |
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On Dec 24, 1:41=EF=BF=BDpm, RaaN <raan2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 24, 1:26 am, Robert Epstein <vze25...@verizon.net> wrote:
Don Stockbauer wrote:
On Dec 22, 12:36 am, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:32 pm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrote:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. =EF=BF=BDThese are not Kapleau's words, they are w=
ords of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. =EF=BF=BDSee. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. =EF=BF=BDThe Buddha himself posses=
sed
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. =EF=BF=BDBut n=
ever did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: =EF=BF=BDBUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=
!!!
REMEMBER: =EF=BF=BDI SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND T=
HAT
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: =EF=BF=BDI WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO =
BE MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? =EF=BF=BDDO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPR=
OVE? =EF=BF=BDI
DON'T.
THE BUDDHA SAY MAN WHO LAY WOMAN ON GROUND GET PIECE ON EARTH.
Man who go to bed with stiff problem wake up with solution in hand.
robert
=3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D
Necro-phallic Wisdom?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT BARKER IS REALLY A DOG |
24 Dec 2007 08:06:32 AM |
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On Dec 24, 5:41=A0am, RaaN <raan2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 24, 1:26 am, Robert Epstein <vze25...@verizon.net> wrote:
Don Stockbauer wrote:
On Dec 22, 12:36 am, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:32 pm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrote:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. =A0These are not Kapleau's words, they are words o=
f
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. =A0See. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. =A0The Buddha himself possessed
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. =A0But never d=
id
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: =A0BUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER: =A0I SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THAT
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: =A0I WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? =A0DO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROVE? =
=A0I
DON'T.
THE BUDDHA SAY MAN WHO LAY WOMAN ON GROUND GET PIECE ON EARTH.
Man who go to bed with stiff problem wake up with solution in hand.
robert
=3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D
Necro-phallic Wisdom?
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No, just a hard on for a hard *****. Robert is fucking himself.
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| User: "Robert Epstein" |
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| Title: Re: ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT BARKER IS REALLY A DOG |
24 Dec 2007 11:52:54 PM |
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wrote:
On Dec 24, 5:41 am, RaaN <raan2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 24, 1:26 am, Robert Epstein <vze25...@verizon.net> wrote:
Don Stockbauer wrote:
On Dec 22, 12:36 am, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:32 pm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrote:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. These are not Kapleau's words, they are words of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. See. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. The Buddha himself possessed
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. But never did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: BUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER: I SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THAT
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: I WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? DO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROVE? I
DON'T.
THE BUDDHA SAY MAN WHO LAY WOMAN ON GROUND GET PIECE ON EARTH.
Man who go to bed with stiff problem wake up with solution in hand.
robert
= = = = = = = =
Necro-phallic Wisdom?
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No, just a hard on for a hard *****. Robert is fucking himself.
Now, now, mutnick, no reason to have hard feelings. There's still a
chance for you to liberate yourself from your delusions.
Robert
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| User: "Robert Epstein" |
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| Title: Re: ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT BARKER IS REALLY A DOG |
24 Dec 2007 11:49:53 PM |
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RaaN wrote:
On Dec 24, 1:26 am, Robert Epstein <vze25...@verizon.net> wrote:
Don Stockbauer wrote:
On Dec 22, 12:36 am, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:32 pm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrote:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. These are not Kapleau's words, they are words of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. See. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. The Buddha himself possessed
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. But never did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: BUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER: I SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THAT
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: I WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? DO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROVE? I
DON'T.
THE BUDDHA SAY MAN WHO LAY WOMAN ON GROUND GET PIECE ON EARTH.
Man who go to bed with stiff problem wake up with solution in hand.
robert
= = = = = = = =
Necro-phallic Wisdom?
--
RaaN
More like x-rated moe, larry and curly
robert
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT BARKER IS REALLY A DOG |
22 Dec 2007 12:45:08 AM |
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On Dec 21, 10:41=A0pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...@hotmail.com> wrote:
THE BUDDHA SAY MAN WHO LAY WOMAN ON GROUND GET PIECE ON EARTH.
Yeah, but it only translates into PEACE ON EARTH if it's the right
woman. Otherwise, it's just one more sin that leads to endless
suffering.
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| User: "Robert Epstein" |
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| Title: Re: ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT BARKER IS REALLY A DOG |
24 Dec 2007 12:28:01 AM |
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wrote:
On Dec 21, 10:41 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...@hotmail.com> wrote:
THE BUDDHA SAY MAN WHO LAY WOMAN ON GROUND GET PIECE ON EARTH.
Yeah, but it only translates into PEACE ON EARTH if it's the right
woman. Otherwise, it's just one more sin that leads to endless
suffering.
oh please!
nothing wrong with a little sex between friends, you bible-beating
dogmatist.
Robert
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| User: "John Jones" |
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| Title: small letters are not as important as caps |
22 Dec 2007 10:31:47 AM |
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On Dec 22, 6:41=EF=BF=BDam, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...@hotmail.com> wrote=
:
On Dec 22, 12:36 am, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:32 pm, "Allen L. Barker" <a...@datafilter.com> wrote:
In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying *****. =EF=BF=BDThese are not Kapleau's words, they are wor=
ds of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. =EF=BF=BDSee. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. =EF=BF=BDThe Buddha himself possesse=
d
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. =EF=BF=BDBut nev=
er did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: =EF=BF=BDBUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=
!
REMEMBER: =EF=BF=BDI SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THA=
T
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: =EF=BF=BDI WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE=
MY
LORD AND MASTER.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? =EF=BF=BDDO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROV=
E? =EF=BF=BDI
DON'T.
THE BUDDHA SAY MAN WHO LAY WOMAN ON GROUND GET PIECE ON EARTH.- Hide quote=
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