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Science > Philosophy |
| User: |
"William Blake Jr." |
| Date: |
30 Apr 2006 08:59:47 AM |
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Algerian passion |
Yesterday I went to my grandmother's 90th birthday party. Four
generations were there, at a sumptious dinner in my cousin's mansion -
the American dream, Russian-Jewish style, with extended family, all
highly individual people who have all gone through their individual
experiences yet retained identity as a family and as a nation.
I was the beloved grandson, and for a long time I was the one everyone
worried about. And yet here I was, working again, on my own again,
looking good again, and being able to say that my translations are
being used in dissertations and websites worldwide.
My 9-year-old nephew's paintings were on the walls of the house. There
was one after Monet; one after Van Gogh; and some in his own distinct
style. People were raising toasts to my grandmother, saying such things
as "God promised Jewish people to live till 120"
I walked outside and called the lady. I was hesitant to call her, but
the agony was too great, and I decided that I would risk it anyway. She
comes from a Muslim family - her father is an Algerian businessman who
is well-read and intelligent; her mother is American; she is the best
of both worlds. My former boss encouraged our relationship - he was
himself a Lebanese Christian, and during that entire time our visitors
said things that reflected different sides.
There was a liberal American couple who saw on my eyes what was
happening and said I was a good person and told me that when two people
love each other all kinds of challenges come along, and they have to
face them - problems from within; problems from other people - and it
becomes necessary to solve all these problems so that love can blossom.
This made sense to me; the cultural war is both inside and outside,
since culture exists in both places, and energies can either be
externally imposed or internally experienced.There was a Muslim man
coming to talk about how he has never tasted alcohol and how he has
supposedly remained righteous even though he was born in America.
There was a tall Middle Eastern man coming in to say menacing things
about her supposedly playing games - he did not know that the little
dude that told him to come back knew the game that he was himself
playing: The game of coming into relationship expecting woman to do bad
things; treating her badly until she does; and then claiming that he
was right all along. There was a dude with a cell phone standing
outside, until my co-worker walked outside with a knife - at which
point the dude flicked him off and was off. And then there were these
bulky dudes coming inside, obviously to intimidate - until, finally
tired of this, I walked past them carrying a huge set of boxes of bread
and glaring at them murderously - I also punched brick wall with my
fist once on a blue moon - and then they stopped coming.
I had to do lots of mental work throughout this whole situation. When
she asked for something and a co-worker told me that she was trying to
control me, I said, "No, she is asking me for a favor." She said that I
understand. When the same co-worker was telling me that man needs to
beat the woman in order to gain her respect, I said that to make the
woman's will one's enemy means to destroy the source from which can
come her love and to prevent her from giving what she wants to and is
equipped to give. I brought the lady poems, flowers, perfume, ear
rings. But the main duty was that of seeing malignant forces and
resolving them. Both the forces on the left and the ones on the right.
The ones on the left I addressed here among other places; the ones on
the right I addressed there. And of course people on the left saw in me
the stuff that I was dealing with on the right, and people on the right
saw in me the stuff that I was dealing with on the left. That, I get
tired of quite easily; but I also recognize that as an occupational
hazard and accept it.
Well. I did not write here about this situation: Some poems, some
posts, but nothing complete - and after I left that place of employment
and found someone else to replace me I honestly thought that I would
forget about her, but I didn't. They tell me she's happy, that what
needed to be done has been done, and I am in a good place as well. Why
then this agony?
I was reading a book about Islam, perhaps the only religion I haven't
studied before, and my uncle was unhappy until I told him that I was
only doing this to understand, not to practice. If Christian way is
surrender to Christ - and Islamic way is scales of justice - then the
correct synthesis is Christian grace with works and doing good deeds.
That way the Gandhi prescription - to be all religions at once -
becomes real.
I did not try to fall in love with this woman. I just find it
impossible to be without her. By all rational considerations I should
be happy to have done what needed to be done, and I am. But every time
I think about her I feel the tugging, piercing, agony in heart and
brain. And I am not sure I want to turn it off, even if that were
possible.
The role of cross-cultural lovers is that of peacemakers. The people
would think twice of declaring war on the next country when their sons
and daughters are married to people in that country. But nothing would
hurt my family more than for me to be with someone from the enemy camp
or to accept their creed. So it's either we split or we transform our
cultures and guide them toward peace. And I am not sure which one it
will be.
Love can be indeed sweet. It can also be agonizing. I am not sure why
this situation has as much pain as it does. Maybe it's because I'm
picking up on her own mindstate, which of course is in pain; or maybe
it's something from around her and within her tearing me to pieces.
I've never been happier than I am now, and I have rarely been in more
pain. I was told that it is these kinds of experiences that one
remembers for life.
This situation is what any novelist looks for. This has everything:
Passion, religion, politics, poetry, family, big social issues. To be
both a character and a writer is to combine the subjective and the
objective and arrive at a complete perspective, one that experiences
from within and observes from without - knowing both the experience and
the external effects. That then becomes the way to understand
completely.
I would not have it any other way.
Ilya Shambat.
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| User: "Evelyn Ruut" |
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| Title: Re: Algerian passion |
30 Apr 2006 10:10:38 PM |
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Ilya, I know an Arab woman who is married to a Jewish man. They have 3
gorgeous sons, and a good life. I am sure they went through a lot to be
together. But for them it worked out.
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
(to reply to me personally, remove 'sox')
"William Blake Jr." <ibshambat@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1146405587.158315.111660@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Yesterday I went to my grandmother's 90th birthday party. Four
generations were there, at a sumptious dinner in my cousin's mansion -
the American dream, Russian-Jewish style, with extended family, all
highly individual people who have all gone through their individual
experiences yet retained identity as a family and as a nation.
I was the beloved grandson, and for a long time I was the one everyone
worried about. And yet here I was, working again, on my own again,
looking good again, and being able to say that my translations are
being used in dissertations and websites worldwide.
My 9-year-old nephew's paintings were on the walls of the house. There
was one after Monet; one after Van Gogh; and some in his own distinct
style. People were raising toasts to my grandmother, saying such things
as "God promised Jewish people to live till 120"
I walked outside and called the lady. I was hesitant to call her, but
the agony was too great, and I decided that I would risk it anyway. She
comes from a Muslim family - her father is an Algerian businessman who
is well-read and intelligent; her mother is American; she is the best
of both worlds. My former boss encouraged our relationship - he was
himself a Lebanese Christian, and during that entire time our visitors
said things that reflected different sides.
There was a liberal American couple who saw on my eyes what was
happening and said I was a good person and told me that when two people
love each other all kinds of challenges come along, and they have to
face them - problems from within; problems from other people - and it
becomes necessary to solve all these problems so that love can blossom.
This made sense to me; the cultural war is both inside and outside,
since culture exists in both places, and energies can either be
externally imposed or internally experienced.There was a Muslim man
coming to talk about how he has never tasted alcohol and how he has
supposedly remained righteous even though he was born in America.
There was a tall Middle Eastern man coming in to say menacing things
about her supposedly playing games - he did not know that the little
dude that told him to come back knew the game that he was himself
playing: The game of coming into relationship expecting woman to do bad
things; treating her badly until she does; and then claiming that he
was right all along. There was a dude with a cell phone standing
outside, until my co-worker walked outside with a knife - at which
point the dude flicked him off and was off. And then there were these
bulky dudes coming inside, obviously to intimidate - until, finally
tired of this, I walked past them carrying a huge set of boxes of bread
and glaring at them murderously - I also punched brick wall with my
fist once on a blue moon - and then they stopped coming.
I had to do lots of mental work throughout this whole situation. When
she asked for something and a co-worker told me that she was trying to
control me, I said, "No, she is asking me for a favor." She said that I
understand. When the same co-worker was telling me that man needs to
beat the woman in order to gain her respect, I said that to make the
woman's will one's enemy means to destroy the source from which can
come her love and to prevent her from giving what she wants to and is
equipped to give. I brought the lady poems, flowers, perfume, ear
rings. But the main duty was that of seeing malignant forces and
resolving them. Both the forces on the left and the ones on the right.
The ones on the left I addressed here among other places; the ones on
the right I addressed there. And of course people on the left saw in me
the stuff that I was dealing with on the right, and people on the right
saw in me the stuff that I was dealing with on the left. That, I get
tired of quite easily; but I also recognize that as an occupational
hazard and accept it.
Well. I did not write here about this situation: Some poems, some
posts, but nothing complete - and after I left that place of employment
and found someone else to replace me I honestly thought that I would
forget about her, but I didn't. They tell me she's happy, that what
needed to be done has been done, and I am in a good place as well. Why
then this agony?
I was reading a book about Islam, perhaps the only religion I haven't
studied before, and my uncle was unhappy until I told him that I was
only doing this to understand, not to practice. If Christian way is
surrender to Christ - and Islamic way is scales of justice - then the
correct synthesis is Christian grace with works and doing good deeds.
That way the Gandhi prescription - to be all religions at once -
becomes real.
I did not try to fall in love with this woman. I just find it
impossible to be without her. By all rational considerations I should
be happy to have done what needed to be done, and I am. But every time
I think about her I feel the tugging, piercing, agony in heart and
brain. And I am not sure I want to turn it off, even if that were
possible.
The role of cross-cultural lovers is that of peacemakers. The people
would think twice of declaring war on the next country when their sons
and daughters are married to people in that country. But nothing would
hurt my family more than for me to be with someone from the enemy camp
or to accept their creed. So it's either we split or we transform our
cultures and guide them toward peace. And I am not sure which one it
will be.
Love can be indeed sweet. It can also be agonizing. I am not sure why
this situation has as much pain as it does. Maybe it's because I'm
picking up on her own mindstate, which of course is in pain; or maybe
it's something from around her and within her tearing me to pieces.
I've never been happier than I am now, and I have rarely been in more
pain. I was told that it is these kinds of experiences that one
remembers for life.
This situation is what any novelist looks for. This has everything:
Passion, religion, politics, poetry, family, big social issues. To be
both a character and a writer is to combine the subjective and the
objective and arrive at a complete perspective, one that experiences
from within and observes from without - knowing both the experience and
the external effects. That then becomes the way to understand
completely.
I would not have it any other way.
Ilya Shambat.
.
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| User: "John Smith" |
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| Title: Re: Algerian passion |
01 May 2006 08:07:41 AM |
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Actually, I met someone like this too. They were both French. Him Jewish,
her of North African decent. They both loved each other and told me that
their faiths were quite similar.
"Evelyn Ruut" <mama-lionsox@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:O_e5g.29458$nA3.28654@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com...
Ilya, I know an Arab woman who is married to a Jewish man. They have 3
gorgeous sons, and a good life. I am sure they went through a lot to be
together. But for them it worked out.
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn
(to reply to me personally, remove 'sox')
"William Blake Jr." <ibshambat@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1146405587.158315.111660@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Yesterday I went to my grandmother's 90th birthday party. Four
generations were there, at a sumptious dinner in my cousin's mansion -
the American dream, Russian-Jewish style, with extended family, all
highly individual people who have all gone through their individual
experiences yet retained identity as a family and as a nation.
I was the beloved grandson, and for a long time I was the one everyone
worried about. And yet here I was, working again, on my own again,
looking good again, and being able to say that my translations are
being used in dissertations and websites worldwide.
My 9-year-old nephew's paintings were on the walls of the house. There
was one after Monet; one after Van Gogh; and some in his own distinct
style. People were raising toasts to my grandmother, saying such things
as "God promised Jewish people to live till 120"
I walked outside and called the lady. I was hesitant to call her, but
the agony was too great, and I decided that I would risk it anyway. She
comes from a Muslim family - her father is an Algerian businessman who
is well-read and intelligent; her mother is American; she is the best
of both worlds. My former boss encouraged our relationship - he was
himself a Lebanese Christian, and during that entire time our visitors
said things that reflected different sides.
There was a liberal American couple who saw on my eyes what was
happening and said I was a good person and told me that when two people
love each other all kinds of challenges come along, and they have to
face them - problems from within; problems from other people - and it
becomes necessary to solve all these problems so that love can blossom.
This made sense to me; the cultural war is both inside and outside,
since culture exists in both places, and energies can either be
externally imposed or internally experienced.There was a Muslim man
coming to talk about how he has never tasted alcohol and how he has
supposedly remained righteous even though he was born in America.
There was a tall Middle Eastern man coming in to say menacing things
about her supposedly playing games - he did not know that the little
dude that told him to come back knew the game that he was himself
playing: The game of coming into relationship expecting woman to do bad
things; treating her badly until she does; and then claiming that he
was right all along. There was a dude with a cell phone standing
outside, until my co-worker walked outside with a knife - at which
point the dude flicked him off and was off. And then there were these
bulky dudes coming inside, obviously to intimidate - until, finally
tired of this, I walked past them carrying a huge set of boxes of bread
and glaring at them murderously - I also punched brick wall with my
fist once on a blue moon - and then they stopped coming.
I had to do lots of mental work throughout this whole situation. When
she asked for something and a co-worker told me that she was trying to
control me, I said, "No, she is asking me for a favor." She said that I
understand. When the same co-worker was telling me that man needs to
beat the woman in order to gain her respect, I said that to make the
woman's will one's enemy means to destroy the source from which can
come her love and to prevent her from giving what she wants to and is
equipped to give. I brought the lady poems, flowers, perfume, ear
rings. But the main duty was that of seeing malignant forces and
resolving them. Both the forces on the left and the ones on the right.
The ones on the left I addressed here among other places; the ones on
the right I addressed there. And of course people on the left saw in me
the stuff that I was dealing with on the right, and people on the right
saw in me the stuff that I was dealing with on the left. That, I get
tired of quite easily; but I also recognize that as an occupational
hazard and accept it.
Well. I did not write here about this situation: Some poems, some
posts, but nothing complete - and after I left that place of employment
and found someone else to replace me I honestly thought that I would
forget about her, but I didn't. They tell me she's happy, that what
needed to be done has been done, and I am in a good place as well. Why
then this agony?
I was reading a book about Islam, perhaps the only religion I haven't
studied before, and my uncle was unhappy until I told him that I was
only doing this to understand, not to practice. If Christian way is
surrender to Christ - and Islamic way is scales of justice - then the
correct synthesis is Christian grace with works and doing good deeds.
That way the Gandhi prescription - to be all religions at once -
becomes real.
I did not try to fall in love with this woman. I just find it
impossible to be without her. By all rational considerations I should
be happy to have done what needed to be done, and I am. But every time
I think about her I feel the tugging, piercing, agony in heart and
brain. And I am not sure I want to turn it off, even if that were
possible.
The role of cross-cultural lovers is that of peacemakers. The people
would think twice of declaring war on the next country when their sons
and daughters are married to people in that country. But nothing would
hurt my family more than for me to be with someone from the enemy camp
or to accept their creed. So it's either we split or we transform our
cultures and guide them toward peace. And I am not sure which one it
will be.
Love can be indeed sweet. It can also be agonizing. I am not sure why
this situation has as much pain as it does. Maybe it's because I'm
picking up on her own mindstate, which of course is in pain; or maybe
it's something from around her and within her tearing me to pieces.
I've never been happier than I am now, and I have rarely been in more
pain. I was told that it is these kinds of experiences that one
remembers for life.
This situation is what any novelist looks for. This has everything:
Passion, religion, politics, poetry, family, big social issues. To be
both a character and a writer is to combine the subjective and the
objective and arrive at a complete perspective, one that experiences
from within and observes from without - knowing both the experience and
the external effects. That then becomes the way to understand
completely.
I would not have it any other way.
Ilya Shambat.
.
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| User: "William Blake Jr." |
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| Title: Re: Algerian passion |
30 Apr 2006 09:10:21 AM |
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Yesterday I went to my grandmother's 90th birthday party. Four
generations were there, at a sumptious dinner in my cousin's mansion -
the American dream, Russian-Jewish style, with extended family, all
highly individual people who have all gone through their individual
experiences yet retained identity as a family and as a nation.
I was the beloved grandson, and for a long time I was the one everyone
worried about. And yet here I was, working again, on my own again,
looking good again, and being able to say that my translations are
being used in dissertations and websites worldwide.
My 9-year-old nephew's paintings were on the walls of the house. There
was one after Monet; one after Van Gogh; and some in his own distinct
style. People were raising toasts to my grandmother, saying such things
as "God promised Jewish people to live till 120"
I walked outside and called the lady - a 30-year-old beauty from
Algeria. I was hesitant to call her, but the agony was too great, and I
decided that I would risk it anyway. She comes from a Muslim family -
her father is an Algerian businessman who is well-read and intelligent;
her mother is American; she is the best of both worlds. My former boss
encouraged our relationship - he was himself a Lebanese Christian, and
during that entire time our visitors said things that reflected
different sides. There was a liberal American couple who saw on my eyes
what was happening and said I was a good person and told me that when
two people love each other all kinds of challenges come along, and they
have to face them - problems from within; problems from other people -
and it becomes necessary to solve all these problems so that love can
blossom. This makes sense; the cultural war is both inside and outside,
since culture exists in both places, and energies can either be
externally imposed or internally lived.There was a Muslim man coming to
talk about how he has never tasted alcohol and how he has supposedly
remained righteous even though he was born in America. There was a tall
Middle Eastern man coming in to say menacing things about her
supposedly playing games - he did not know that the little dude that
told him to come back knew the game that he was himself playing: The
game of coming into relationship expecting woman to do bad things;
treating her badly until she does; and then claiming that he was right
all along. There was a dude with a cell phone standing outside, until
my co-worker walked outside with a knife - at which point the dude
flicked him off and was off. And then there were these bulky dudes
coming inside, obviously to intimidate - until, finally tired of this,
I walked past them carrying a huge set of boxes of bread and glaring at
them murderously - I also punched brick wall with my fist once on a
blue moon - and then they stopped coming.
I had to do lots of mental work throughout this whole situation. When
she asked for something and a co-worker told me that she was trying to
control me, I said, "No, she is asking me for a favor." She said that I
understand. When the same co-worker was telling me that man needs to
beat the woman in order to gain her respect, I said that to make the
woman's will one's enemy means to destroy the source from which can
come her love and to prevent her from giving what she wants to and is
equipped to give. I brought the lady poems, flowers, perfume, ear
rings. But the main duty was that of seeing malignant forces and
resolving them. Both the forces on the left and the ones on the right.
The ones on the left I addressed here among other places; the ones on
the right I addressed there. And of course people on the left saw in me
the stuff that I was dealing with on the right, and people on the right
saw in me the stuff that I was dealing with on the left. That, I get
tired of quite easily; but I also recognize that as an occupational
hazard and accept it.
Well. I did not write here about this situation: Some poems, some
posts, but nothing complete - and after I left that place of employment
and found someone else to replace me I honestly thought that I would
forget about her, but I didn't. They tell me she's happy, that what
needed to be done has been done, and I am in a good place as well. Why
then this agony?
I was reading a book about Islam, perhaps the only religion I haven't
studied before, and my uncle was unhappy until I told him that I was
only doing this to understand, not to practice. If Christian way is
surrender to Christ - and Islamic way is scales of justice - then the
correct synthesis is Christian grace with works and doing good deeds.
That way the Gandhi prescription - to be all religions at once -
becomes real.
I did not try to fall in love with this woman. I just find it
impossible to be without her. By all rational considerations I should
be happy to have done what needed to be done, and I am. But every time
I think about her I feel the tugging, piercing, agony in heart and
brain. And I am not sure I want to turn it off, even if that were
possible.
The role of cross-cultural lovers is that of peacemakers. The people
would think twice of declaring war on the next country when their sons
and daughters are married to people in that country. But nothing would
hurt my family more than for me to be with someone from the enemy camp
or to accept their creed. So it's either we split or we transform our
cultures and guide them toward peace. And I am not sure which one it
will be.
Love can be indeed sweet. It can also be agonizing. I am not sure why
this situation has as much pain as it does. Maybe it's because I'm
picking up on her own mindstate, which of course is in pain; or maybe
it's something from around her and within her tearing me to pieces.
I've never been happier than I am now, and I have rarely been in more
pain. I was told that it is these kinds of experiences that one
remembers for life.
This situation is what any novelist looks for. This has everything:
Passion, religion, politics, poetry, family, big social issues. To be
both a character and a writer is to combine the subjective and the
objective and arrive at a complete perspective, one that experiences
from within and observes from without - knowing both the experience and
the external effects. That then becomes the way to understand
completely.
I would not have it any other way.
.
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| User: "Cujo DeSockpuppet" |
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| Title: Re: Algerian passion |
30 Apr 2006 02:06:25 PM |
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"William Blake Jr." <ibshambat@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1146406221.245121.189020@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Yesterday I went to my grandmother's 90th birthday party. Four
generations were there, at a sumptious dinner in my cousin's mansion -
the American dream, Russian-Jewish style, with extended family, all
highly individual people who have all gone through their individual
experiences yet retained identity as a family and as a nation.
I was the beloved grandson, and for a long time I was the one everyone
worried about.
Use of past tense noted, Wankboi.
And yet here I was, working again, on my own again,
looking good again, and being able to say that my translations are
being used in dissertations and websites worldwide.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!1!!
So let's get this straight, Wankboi!
Your *job* is translating crap that's already been done by others and
putting it on websites?
That explains why a loser like you is still mooching off Mommy. You're
over 30 fucking years old, Wankster. That's a hell of a career move.
What's next, cleaning spooge and enema drippings off toilets at the local
gay bar?
You'd better hope Pete shows up to enable you, it doesn't look like
you're doing all that great.
[stalking admissions mercy-snipped]
I would not have it any other way.
That 's not surprising coming from a sociopathic ***** like you.
I doubt you'll say that once you're back to fishing your meanls out of
dumpsters again, Wankboi.
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in
dfw.*, alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych.
Winner of the 8/2000 & 2/2003 HL&S award & July 2005 Hammer of Thor.
Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle - Dec. 2005
Fanatic Legions Distinguished Service Citation - 2 FL Unit Commendations
"Orion is a star....." - Ed shocks astronomers the world over.
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| User: "possum zen102422@zen" |
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| Title: Re: Algerian passion |
30 Apr 2006 09:18:09 PM |
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"Cujo DeSockpuppet" <cujo@insurgent.org> wrote in message
news:e331rh$1ls$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
"William Blake Jr." <ibshambat@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1146406221.245121.189020@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Yesterday I went to my grandmother's 90th birthday party. Four
generations were there, at a sumptious dinner in my cousin's mansion -
the American dream, Russian-Jewish style, with extended family, all
highly individual people who have all gone through their individual
experiences yet retained identity as a family and as a nation.
I was the beloved grandson, and for a long time I was the one everyone
worried about.
Use of past tense noted, Wankboi.
And yet here I was, working again, on my own again,
looking good again, and being able to say that my translations are
being used in dissertations and websites worldwide.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!1!!
So let's get this straight, Wankboi!
Your *job* is translating crap that's already been done by others and
putting it on websites?
That explains why a loser like you is still mooching off Mommy. You're
over 30 fucking years old, Wankster. That's a hell of a career move.
What's next, cleaning spooge and enema drippings off toilets at the
local
gay bar?
quite an imagination you have there.
i post on t.r.b and perhaps i miss a lot of your best stuff, but the only
posts i have ever seen from you, are abuse responses to ilya's posts.
are you on a mission from god, bro'?
if so, depending on how much crud you have in your eyes, i may be able to
introduce you to a team of compassion experts, failing that, a
compassion -bot you can work out with, and probably deserve.
and all for free.
<duck !
watch out for the vajriyani *****-holes.
: (/
possum
You'd better hope Pete shows up to enable you, it doesn't look like
you're doing all that great.
[stalking admissions mercy-snipped]
I would not have it any other way.
That 's not surprising coming from a sociopathic ***** like you.
I doubt you'll say that once you're back to fishing your meanls out of
dumpsters again, Wankboi.
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in
dfw.*, alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych.
Winner of the 8/2000 & 2/2003 HL&S award & July 2005 Hammer of Thor.
Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle - Dec. 2005
Fanatic Legions Distinguished Service Citation - 2 FL Unit Commendations
"Orion is a star....." - Ed shocks astronomers the world over.
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01 May 2006 03:52:45 PM |
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possum wrote:
quite an imagination you have there.
i post on t.r.b and perhaps i miss a lot of your best stuff, but the only
posts i have ever seen from you, are abuse responses to ilya's posts.
are you on a mission from god, bro'?
if so, depending on how much crud you have in your eyes, i may be able to
introduce you to a team of compassion experts, failing that, a
compassion -bot you can work out with, and probably deserve.
and all for free.
It bears note that the way I got this person's attention was defending
someone else whom he's been attacking for years.
It is interesting, isn't it, how the outlook of someone full of crap up
to his eyeballs, like Mr. Kevin Fries here and his digital brownshirts,
is always brown?
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| User: "possum zen102422@zen" |
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01 May 2006 04:19:23 PM |
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<ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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possum wrote:
quite an imagination you have there.
i post on t.r.b and perhaps i miss a lot of your best stuff, but the
only
posts i have ever seen from you, are abuse responses to ilya's posts.
are you on a mission from god, bro'?
if so, depending on how much crud you have in your eyes, i may be able
to
introduce you to a team of compassion experts, failing that, a
compassion -bot you can work out with, and probably deserve.
and all for free.
It bears note that the way I got this person's attention was defending
someone else whom he's been attacking for years.
It is interesting, isn't it, how the outlook of someone full of crap up
to his eyeballs, like Mr. Kevin Fries here and his digital brownshirts,
is always brown?
***** coloured spectacles? yes, i've come across them.
i'm quite curious about the fondness for titles etc particularly on
alt.atheist...but perhaps not that curious.
the barbara woodhouse award probably makes cujo a brit. <sigh>
i still can't see any point though, but not surprised he can't face up.
possum
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| User: "John Smith" |
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30 Apr 2006 08:52:49 PM |
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"William Blake Jr." <ibshambat@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1146406221.245121.189020@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
I walked outside and called the lady - a 30-year-old beauty from
Algeria. I was hesitant to call her, but the agony was too great, and I
decided that I would risk it anyway. She comes from a Muslim family -
her father is an Algerian businessman who is well-read and intelligent;
her mother is American; she is the best of both worlds. My former boss
encouraged our relationship - he was himself a Lebanese Christian, and
during that entire time our visitors said things that reflected
Follow your heart. Don't let a silly thing like religion stop you. You'd be
surprised at how similar the two religions maybe.
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| User: "Robert Cohen" |
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30 Apr 2006 09:36:44 PM |
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re: novel reading for fun & enlightenment/novel writing for joy and $
Jonathan Franzen's best seller (?) novel that infamously shut-down the
Oprah Book Club for awhile is actually an interesting read, an
enjoyable writing about a mid-western family's inter-relationships &
complexities its major characters experience.
I may have listened to it on cassettes or c.d.s borrowed from a
library.
I hope Wm takes a look at Franzen's book (etal) as both an example of
literary art & of a commercial best-seller, because I perceive there is
a there, there in his personal experiences & ideas to be further
deveoped into a novel.
The differing religions angle--the clashing & resolution if any
thereof--is something that is seeming-to-me essential in keeping the
reader interested, and perhaps today as basic as sex and money.
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| User: "stumper" |
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30 Apr 2006 09:44:29 PM |
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Robert Cohen wrote:
re: novel reading for fun & enlightenment/novel writing for joy and $
Jonathan Franzen's best seller (?) novel that infamously shut-down the
Oprah Book Club for awhile is actually an interesting read, an
enjoyable writing about a mid-western family's inter-relationships &
complexities its major characters experience.
I may have listened to it on cassettes or c.d.s borrowed from a
library.
I hope Wm takes a look at Franzen's book (etal) as both an example of
literary art & of a commercial best-seller, because I perceive there is
a there, there in his personal experiences & ideas to be further
deveoped into a novel.
The differing religions angle--the clashing & resolution if any
thereof--is something that is seeming-to-me essential in keeping the
reader interested, and perhaps today as basic as sex and money.
Who is crossposting this to talk.religion.buddhism?
--
~Stumper
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| User: "" |
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01 May 2006 03:57:41 PM |
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stumper wrote:
Who is crossposting this to talk.religion.buddhism?
Who isn't?
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| User: "stumper" |
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01 May 2006 04:13:18 PM |
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wrote:
stumper wrote:
Who is crossposting this to talk.religion.buddhism?
Who isn't?
Most people don't start it.
They just reply without bothering to check the header.
Where do you usually hang out?
--
~Stumper
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| User: "bob" |
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01 May 2006 06:46:46 PM |
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On Mon, 01 May 2006 17:13:18 -0400, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>
wrote:
ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com wrote:
stumper wrote:
Who is crossposting this to talk.religion.buddhism?
Who isn't?
Most people don't start it.
They just reply without bothering to check the header.
Where do you usually hang out?
Anywhere he can get responses.
bob
-oh, and libraries. He's particularly fond of libraries.
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| User: "possum zen102422@zen" |
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01 May 2006 07:15:19 PM |
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"bob" <thanatos@coldmail.nu> wrote in message
news:sd7d525r2f77ol785lu2qg974or4quocp3@4ax.com...
On Mon, 01 May 2006 17:13:18 -0400, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>
wrote:
ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com wrote:
stumper wrote:
Who is crossposting this to talk.religion.buddhism?
Who isn't?
Most people don't start it.
They just reply without bothering to check the header.
Where do you usually hang out?
Anywhere he can get responses.
bob
-oh, and libraries. He's particularly fond of libraries.
bit of a hobby of yours is he?
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| User: "Cujo DeSockpuppet" |
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01 May 2006 08:35:49 PM |
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"possum" <zen102422@zen> wrote in news:4456a497$0$8346$da0feed9
@news.zen.co.uk:
"bob" <thanatos@coldmail.nu> wrote in message
news:sd7d525r2f77ol785lu2qg974or4quocp3@4ax.com...
On Mon, 01 May 2006 17:13:18 -0400, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>
wrote:
ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com wrote:
stumper wrote:
Who is crossposting this to talk.religion.buddhism?
Who isn't?
Most people don't start it.
They just reply without bothering to check the header.
Where do you usually hang out?
Anywhere he can get responses.
bob
-oh, and libraries. He's particularly fond of libraries.
bit of a hobby of yours is he?
More like some fun at Wankboi's expense.
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in
dfw.*, alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych.
Winner of the 8/2000 & 2/2003 HL&S award & July 2005 Hammer of Thor.
Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle - Dec. 2005
Fanatic Legions Distinguished Service Citation - 2 FL Unit Commendations
"I've been called an ***** in about every language now!!!" -
Roberta "Mop Jockey" Wolfe in a rare moment of honesty.
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| User: "bob" |
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01 May 2006 10:40:59 PM |
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On Tue, 2 May 2006 01:15:19 +0100, "possum" <zen102422@zen> wrote:
"bob" <thanatos@coldmail.nu> wrote in message
news:sd7d525r2f77ol785lu2qg974or4quocp3@4ax.com...
On Mon, 01 May 2006 17:13:18 -0400, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>
wrote:
ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com wrote:
stumper wrote:
Who is crossposting this to talk.religion.buddhism?
Who isn't?
Most people don't start it.
They just reply without bothering to check the header.
Where do you usually hang out?
Anywhere he can get responses.
bob
-oh, and libraries. He's particularly fond of libraries.
bit of a hobby of yours is he?
Yes. He is, in part, responsible for the death of a woman I cared for
and he refuses to accept his share of responsibility. Further, he
continues to prey on the same sort of woman years later. I can
understand and accept youthful folly.
Ilya's predatory ways are not stoke by the fires of naivete.
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| User: "possum zen102422@zen" |
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03 May 2006 05:34:44 PM |
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"bob" <thanatos@coldmail.nu> wrote in message
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On Tue, 2 May 2006 01:15:19 +0100, "possum" <zen102422@zen> wrote:
"bob" <thanatos@coldmail.nu> wrote in message
news:sd7d525r2f77ol785lu2qg974or4quocp3@4ax.com...
On Mon, 01 May 2006 17:13:18 -0400, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>
wrote:
ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com wrote:
stumper wrote:
Who is crossposting this to talk.religion.buddhism?
Who isn't?
Most people don't start it.
They just reply without bothering to check the header.
Where do you usually hang out?
Anywhere he can get responses.
bob
-oh, and libraries. He's particularly fond of libraries.
bit of a hobby of yours is he?
Yes. He is, in part, responsible for the death of a woman I cared for
and he refuses to accept his share of responsibility. Further, he
continues to prey on the same sort of woman years later. I can
understand and accept youthful folly.
Ilya's predatory ways are not stoke by the fires of naivete.
so is it a vendetta?
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| User: "bob" |
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| Title: Re: Algerian passion |
03 May 2006 08:55:56 PM |
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On Wed, 3 May 2006 23:34:44 +0100, "possum" <zen102422@zen> wrote:
"bob" <thanatos@coldmail.nu> wrote in message
news:9ukd52ljp0s05987f2molao12cvr52lmqa@4ax.com...
On Tue, 2 May 2006 01:15:19 +0100, "possum" <zen102422@zen> wrote:
"bob" <thanatos@coldmail.nu> wrote in message
news:sd7d525r2f77ol785lu2qg974or4quocp3@4ax.com...
On Mon, 01 May 2006 17:13:18 -0400, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>
wrote:
ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com wrote:
stumper wrote:
Who is crossposting this to talk.religion.buddhism?
Who isn't?
Most people don't start it.
They just reply without bothering to check the header.
Where do you usually hang out?
Anywhere he can get responses.
bob
-oh, and libraries. He's particularly fond of libraries.
bit of a hobby of yours is he?
Yes. He is, in part, responsible for the death of a woman I cared for
and he refuses to accept his share of responsibility. Further, he
continues to prey on the same sort of woman years later. I can
understand and accept youthful folly.
Ilya's predatory ways are not stoked by the fires of naivete.
so is it a vendetta?
Hardly. It's what free speech is all about. Ilya could chose to ignore
me and the others who add a dash of reality to the persona he attempts
to sustain but he can't.
Ilya Shambat is not a guru, he is not a visionary, he's simply an
intelligent screwed up young man who has delusions that his manic
efforts lift him above the cesspool of mediocrity his kind inhabits.
He could do much more but his attitude and approach are self-limiting.
BTW, are you cute, do you go all the way on a first date, and do you
care if a guy remembers your name after he's finished with you?
heh
That was a clue. <--- without it, would you have had a chance to pass
the test?
Will you figure it out with the clue?
.......
What's the real question?
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| User: "stumper" |
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| Title: Re: Algerian passion |
03 May 2006 09:04:26 PM |
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bob wrote:
On Wed, 3 May 2006 23:34:44 +0100, "possum" <zen102422@zen> wrote:
"bob" <thanatos@coldmail.nu> wrote in message
news:9ukd52ljp0s05987f2molao12cvr52lmqa@4ax.com...
On Tue, 2 May 2006 01:15:19 +0100, "possum" <zen102422@zen> wrote:
"bob" <thanatos@coldmail.nu> wrote in message
news:sd7d525r2f77ol785lu2qg974or4quocp3@4ax.com...
On Mon, 01 May 2006 17:13:18 -0400, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>
wrote:
ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com wrote:
stumper wrote:
Who is crossposting this to talk.religion.buddhism?
Who isn't?
Most people don't start it.
They just reply without bothering to check the header.
Where do you usually hang out?
Anywhere he can get responses.
bob
-oh, and libraries. He's particularly fond of libraries.
bit of a hobby of yours is he?
Yes. He is, in part, responsible for the death of a woman I cared for
and he refuses to accept his share of responsibility. Further, he
continues to prey on the same sort of woman years later. I can
understand and accept youthful folly.
Ilya's predatory ways are not stoked by the fires of naivete.
so is it a vendetta?
Hardly. It's what free speech is all about. Ilya could chose to ignore
me and the others who add a dash of reality to the persona he attempts
to sustain but he can't.
Ilya Shambat is not a guru, he is not a visionary, he's simply an
intelligent screwed up young man who has delusions that his manic
efforts lift him above the cesspool of mediocrity his kind inhabits.
He could do much more but his attitude and approach are self-limiting.
BTW, are you cute, do you go all the way on a first date, and do you
care if a guy remembers your name after he's finished with you?
heh
That was a clue. <--- without it, would you have had a chance to pass
the test?
Will you figure it out with the clue?
......
What's the real question?
What are you?
--
~Stumper
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| User: "bob" |
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| Title: Re: Algerian passion |
04 May 2006 09:25:36 PM |
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On Wed, 03 May 2006 22:04:26 -0400, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>
wrote:
bob wrote:
On Wed, 3 May 2006 23:34:44 +0100, "possum" <zen102422@zen> wrote:
"bob" <thanatos@coldmail.nu> wrote in message
news:9ukd52ljp0s05987f2molao12cvr52lmqa@4ax.com...
On Tue, 2 May 2006 01:15:19 +0100, "possum" <zen102422@zen> wrote:
"bob" <thanatos@coldmail.nu> wrote in message
news:sd7d525r2f77ol785lu2qg974or4quocp3@4ax.com...
On Mon, 01 May 2006 17:13:18 -0400, stumper <stumper@newvessel.com>
wrote:
ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com wrote:
stumper wrote:
Who is crossposting this to talk.religion.buddhism?
Who isn't?
Most people don't start it.
They just reply without bothering to check the header.
Where do you usually hang out?
Anywhere he can get responses.
bob
-oh, and libraries. He's particularly fond of libraries.
bit of a hobby of yours is he?
Yes. He is, in part, responsible for the death of a woman I cared for
and he refuses to accept his share of responsibility. Further, he
continues to prey on the same sort of woman years later. I can
understand and accept youthful folly.
Ilya's predatory ways are not stoked by the fires of naivete.
so is it a vendetta?
Hardly. It's what free speech is all about. Ilya could chose to ignore
me and the others who add a dash of reality to the persona he attempts
to sustain but he can't.
Ilya Shambat is not a guru, he is not a visionary, he's simply an
intelligent screwed up young man who has delusions that his manic
efforts lift him above the cesspool of mediocrity his kind inhabits.
He could do much more but his attitude and approach are self-limiting.
BTW, are you cute, do you go all the way on a first date, and do you
care if a guy remembers your name after he's finished with you?
heh
That was a clue. <--- without it, would you have had a chance to pass
the test?
Will you figure it out with the clue?
What's the real question?
What are you?
I'm my favorite persona. Better yet, I'm my only persona.
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| User: "William Blake Jr." |
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| Title: Re: Algerian passion |
05 May 2006 10:12:03 PM |
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bob wrote:
What are you?
I'm my favorite persona. Better yet, I'm my only persona.
You obviously haven't looked in the mirror.
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| User: "bob" |
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06 May 2006 12:34:24 AM |
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"William Blake Jr." <ibshambat@hotmail.com> wrote:
bob wrote:
What are you?
I'm my favorite persona. Better yet, I'm my only persona.
You obviously haven't looked in the mirror.
It's obvious that you look in the mirror too much.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Algerian passion |
06 May 2006 02:37:53 PM |
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The soul is in the back of your head.
The eyes are mirrors to the soul.
To see what's in the back of your head, you use two sets of mirrors.
Your eyes. And the eyes of the one you love.
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