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Topic: Science > Philosophy
User: "Sir Frederick"
Date: 02 Sep 2005 10:50:49 PM
Object: Applied Corruption
An Unnatural Disaster
A Hurricane Exposes the Man-Made Disaster of the Welfare State
by Robert Tracinski
It has taken four long days for state and federal officials to figure
out how to deal with the disaster in New Orleans. I can't blame them,
because it has also taken me four long days to figure out what is going
on there. The reason is that the events there make no sense if you
think that we are confronting a natural disaster.
If this is just a natural disaster, the response for public officials
is obvious: you bring in food, water, and doctors; you send
transportation to evacuate refugees to temporary shelters; you send
engineers to stop the flooding and rebuild the city's infrastructure.
For journalists, natural disasters also have a familiar pattern: the
heroism of ordinary people pulling together to survive; the hard work
and dedication of doctors, nurses, and rescue workers; the steps being
taken to clean up and rebuild.
Public officials did not expect that the first thing they would have to
do is to send thousands of armed troops in armored vehicle, as if they
are suppressing an enemy insurgency. And journalists--myself
included--did not expect that the story would not be about rain, wind,
and flooding, but about rape, murder, and looting.
But this is not a natural disaster. It is a man-made disaster.
The man-made disaster is not an inadequate or incompetent response by
federal relief agencies, and it was not directly caused by Hurricane
Katrina. This is where just about every newspaper and television
channel has gotten the story wrong.
The man-made disaster we are now witnessing in New Orleans did not
happen over the past four days. It happened over the past four decades.
Hurricane Katrina merely exposed it to public view.
The man-made disaster is the welfare state.
For the past few days, I have found the news from New Orleans to be
confusing. People were not behaving as you would expect them to behave
in an emergency--indeed, they were not behaving as they have behaved in
other emergencies. That is what has shocked so many people: they have
been saying that this is not what we expect from America. In fact, it
is not even what we expect from a Third World country.
When confronted with a disaster, people usually rise to the occasion.
They work together to rescue people in danger, and they spontaneously
organize to keep order and solve problems. This is especially true in
America. We are an enterprising people, used to relying on our own
initiative rather than waiting around for the government to take care
of us. I have seen this a hundred times, in small examples (a small
town whose main traffic light had gone out, causing ordinary citizens
to get out of their cars and serve as impromptu traffic cops, directing
cars through the intersection) and large ones (the spontaneous response
of New Yorkers to September 11).
So what explains the chaos in New Orleans?
To give you an idea of the magnitude of what is going on, here is a
description from a Washington Times story at http://tinyurl.com/auyju:
"Storm victims are raped and beaten; fights erupt with flying fists,
knives and guns; fires are breaking out; corpses litter the streets;
and police and rescue helicopters are repeatedly fired on.
"The plea from Mayor C. Ray Nagin came even as National Guardsmen
poured in to restore order and stop the looting, carjackings and
gunfire....
"Last night, Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco said 300 Iraq-hardened
Arkansas National Guard members were inside New Orleans with
shoot-to-kill orders.
" 'These troops are...under my orders to restore order in the streets,'
she said. 'They have M-16s, and they are locked and loaded. These
troops know how to shoot and kill and they are more than willing to do
so if necessary and I expect they will.' "
The reference to Iraq is eerie. The photo that accompanies this article
shows National Guard troops, with rifles and armored vests, riding on
an armored vehicle through trash-strewn streets lined by a rabble of
squalid, listless people, one of whom appears to be yelling at them. It
looks exactly like a scene from Sadr City in Baghdad.
What explains bands of thugs using a natural disaster as an excuse for
an orgy of looting, armed robbery, and rape? What causes unruly mobs to
storm the very buses that have arrived to evacuate them, causing the
drivers to drive away, frightened for their lives? What causes people
to attack the doctors trying to treat patients at the Super Dome?
Why are people responding to natural destruction by causing further
destruction? Why are they attacking the people who are trying to help
them?
Sherri figured it out first, and she figured it out on a sense-of-life
level. While watching the coverage last night on Fox News Channel, she
told me that she was getting a familiar feeling. She studied
architecture at the Illinois Institute of Chicago, which is located in
the South Side of Chicago just blocks away from the Robert Taylor
Homes, one of the largest high-rise public housing projects in America.
"The projects," as they were known, were infamous for uncontrollable
crime and irremediable squalor. (They have since, mercifully, been
demolished; see http://tinyurl.com/9hu4u.)
What Sherri was getting from last night's television coverage was a
whiff of the sense of life of "the projects." Then the "crawl"--the
informational phrases flashed at the bottom of the screen on most news
channels--gave some vital statistics to confirm this sense: 75% of the
residents of New Orleans had already evacuated before the hurricane,
and of the 300,000 or so who remained, a large number were from the
city's public housing projects. Jack Wakeland then gave me an
additional, crucial fact: early reports from CNN and Fox indicated that
the city had no plan for evacuating all of the prisoners in the city's
jails--so they just let many of them loose. There is no doubt a
significant overlap between these two populations--that is, a large
number of people in the jails used to live in the housing projects, and
vice versa.
There were many decent, innocent people trapped in New Orleans when the
deluge hit--but they were trapped alongside large numbers of people
from two groups: criminals--and wards of the welfare state, people
selected, over decades, for their lack of initiative and self-induced
helplessness. The welfare wards were a mass of sheep--on whom the
incompetent administration of New Orleans unleashed a pack of wolves.
All of this is related, incidentally, to the apparent incompetence of
the city government, which failed to plan for a total evacuation of the
city, despite the knowledge that this might be necessary. But in a city
corrupted by the welfare state, the job of city officials is to ensure
the flow of handouts to welfare recipients and patronage to political
supporters--not to ensure a lawful, orderly evacuation in case of
emergency.
No one has really reported this story, as far as I can tell. In fact,
some are already actively distorting it, blaming President Bush, for
example, for failing to personally ensure that the Mayor of New Orleans
had drafted an adequate evacuation plan. The worst example is an
execrable piece from the Toronto Globe and Mail, at
http://tinyurl.com/ah5j7, by a supercilious Canadian who blames the
chaos on American "individualism." But the truth is precisely the
opposite: the chaos was caused by a system that was the exact opposite
of individualism.
What Hurricane Katrina exposed was the psychological consequences of
the welfare state. What we consider "normal" behavior in an emergency
is behavior that is normal for people who have values and take the
responsibility to pursue and protect them. People with values respond
to a disaster by fighting against it and doing whatever it takes to
overcome the difficulties they face. They don't sit around and complain
that the government hasn't taken care of them. They don't use the chaos
of a disaster as an opportunity to prey on their fellow men.
But what about criminals and welfare parasites? Do they worry about
saving their houses and property? They don't, because they don't own
anything. Do they worry about what is going to happen to their
businesses or how they are going to make a living? They never worried
about those things before. Do they worry about crime and looting? But
living off of stolen wealth is a way of life for them.
The welfare state--and the brutish, uncivilized mentality it sustains
and encourages--is the man-made disaster that explains the moral
ugliness that has swamped New Orleans. And that is the story that no
one is reporting.
Copyright 2005 by The Intellectual Activist
PO Box 8086, Charlottesville, VA 22906.
---------------------
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User: "Bret Cahill"

Title: Re: Applied Corruption 02 Sep 2005 11:10:51 PM
< But this is not a natural disaster. It is a
< man-made disaster.
True. AwOL Bush sent the levee construction money to Iraq.
Bret Cahill
.
User: "Sir Frederick"

Title: Re: Applied Corruption 02 Sep 2005 11:37:12 PM
On 2 Sep 2005 21:10:51 -0700, "Bret Cahill" <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote:

< But this is not a natural disaster. It is a

< man-made disaster.

True. AwOL Bush sent the levee construction money to Iraq.


Bret Cahill

I see that you did not read the article.
The applied corruption is the welfare state.
And that includes you.
Bush's corruption pertains to the criminal illegal alien
affairs.
--
Best,
Frederick Martin McNeill
Poway, California, United States of America
mmcneill@fuzzysys.com
http://www.fuzzysys.com
http://members.cox.net/fmmcneill
*************************
Phrase of the week :
"It takes a long time to understand nothing."
-- Edward Dahlberg (1900-1977)
:-))))Snort!)
*************************
.


User: "Brian Fletcher"

Title: Re: Applied Corruption 03 Sep 2005 02:20:43 AM
"Sir Frederick" <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
news:la7ih1hb3a25pck3ij3qj7ttpdkb1rb62j@4ax.com...

An Unnatural Disaster

A Hurricane Exposes the Man-Made Disaster of the Welfare State

by Robert Tracinski

SNIP


The welfare state--and the brutish, uncivilized mentality it sustains
and encourages--is the man-made disaster that explains the moral
ugliness that has swamped New Orleans. And that is the story that no
one is reporting.

Copyright 2005 by The Intellectual Activist
PO Box 8086, Charlottesville, VA 22906.
---------------------

A big price to pay for "Strange Fruit".
BOfL
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Applied Corruption 03 Sep 2005 02:44:17 AM
I've not been able to decide where I fall on the issue of welfare.
This much I know. It is not about a lack of initiative. If it were
then these people wouldn't be out their raping and looting when they
have the chance.
It seems to me these are the acts of people who have been treated
like caged work animals whose initiatives to be free have been
thwarted. When they get the chance they lash out against their
masters and any other who gets in their way.
My dad was moved by Boeing from Wichita to Seattle in 1965. A
friend's dad was moved the same way during the long hot summer
of '68. I met up with him in a hamburger joint. During the
conversation the issue of race relations came up and he as me,
"What do these people want? In Wichita we even gave them their
own park and it wasn't good enough." I said, "I think they
want what everyone wants, respect. They want to be treated as
equals." but that's not right. I see how we treat equals in our
society. Then, like now, our political and business leaders
treat everyone who cannot defend themselves as resources to be
exploited for private gain.
The welfare states suits both the political leaders on the left
and on the right. There is no hand up. Our society is broken
and most of us don't want to think about what we are doing to
each other.
Sure we will talk about the lazy welfare bumbs. It's easier
than addressing the truth.
.
User: "Day Brown"

Title: Re: Applied Corruption 08 Sep 2005 05:16:03 PM
The DNA shows that Aryans evolved in communities of 150-300;
Africans in tribes of 75-150. Africans however, in a tropical
environment had far more diseases to cope with, whereas the
big killer in Northern Europe was Old Man Winter during a long
series of ice ages.
Small groups need genetic diveristy, and so the elders raise the
kids of incompetent parents. The kids mite have resistanct to
malaria, yellow fever... who knows what all. It didnt matter if
the kids were stupid; the elders were always there to tell them
what to do when it was time to do it. And that included warring
with other tribes.
The Hominids in Europe had a whole different ballgame; after the
ice retreated, they had 3 million square miles to hunt in. There
were only 100,000 scattered across the whole of Europe, so *each*
hunter had *5000* square miles to hunt in. Even later, during the
Mammoth bone Longhouse era, each tribe lived about 100 miles from
the next. Social predation did not pay like it did in the tropics.
Au contraire; they had 120 people living in Longhouses that were
25-30 foot wide by 100-150 foot long. this is like living in a
dancehall... and doing it for the five months of an ice age winter.
Men who could not control themselves were thrown out, just as the
record shows that Eric the Red was kicked out of Sweden and then
Iceland. Ancillary casualties like kids and women, were just too
close at hand. Aryans had to learn to cope with cabin fever too.
There's been a lotta mixing it up since, but the numbers remain to
show that African social predators are 2-3 times more common than
they are among the Aryans. This is tragic for the many honorable
African men remaining because so may whites are too stupid to see
a man of character when they meet one, especially if he is of some
other race and somewhat unfamiliar.
But claiming we are all equal is stupid as well. We need to look at
the data. Fish oil has been shown to be critical to optimal mental
development, used by some neuro-transmitters to lay down new neural
pathways during learning. Thus it is, that in Minnesota, the land
of 10,000 lakes, where poor men routinely go fishing if they dont
have a job, they feed their kids fresh fish. And even if they do
work, there are so many fishermen that most people are given fish
to put in their freezers.
So- there's a *reason* why a global high tech med center like the
Mayo Clinic is in Minnesota. And why "Soul Food" high in fat and
carbs, has produced generations of dimwits.
The most spectacular failure of Nordic culture, in stark contrast
to the creativity and engineering seen everywhere else among them
was... The Greenland Norse. Who went extinct. Jared Diamond, in
"Collapse" reports that there are hardly any fish bones in the
middens on Greenland. Eric the Red liked meat, not fish, and his
opinion set the cultural standard. And their sons were just like
their fathers... violent barbarians.
.


User: "Ron"

Title: Re: Applied Corruption 03 Sep 2005 05:22:24 AM
In article <la7ih1hb3a25pck3ij3qj7ttpdkb1rb62j@4ax.com>,
Sir Frederick <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote:

An Unnatural Disaster

Are you suggesting that we as an intelligent species had no clue that
this region is prone to this natural phenomenon with this article?
The issue is not the welfare state, but the foolishness of a species
that is territorial and refuses to operate within our knowledge of our
natural world. MOVE INLAND.
Billions and billions will be spent to re-build only to see the same
thing happen again. What is an intelligent action in my view is to be
proactive rather than reactive until such a time that we can alter or
inhibit a huricane.
.
User: "Sir Frederick"

Title: Re: Applied Corruption 03 Sep 2005 05:35:05 AM
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 06:22:24 -0400, Ron <homo@home.com> wrote:

In article <la7ih1hb3a25pck3ij3qj7ttpdkb1rb62j@4ax.com>,
Sir Frederick <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote:

An Unnatural Disaster


Are you suggesting that we as an intelligent species had no clue that
this region is prone to this natural phenomenon with this article?

No


The issue is not the welfare state, but the foolishness of a species
that is territorial and refuses to operate within our knowledge of our
natural world. MOVE INLAND.

Billions and billions will be spent to re-build only to see the same
thing happen again. What is an intelligent action in my view is to be
proactive rather than reactive until such a time that we can alter or
inhibit a huricane.

The foolishness manifests in several ways. The article discusses a way
not as publicized as the territory stupidity.
.
User: "Ron"

Title: Re: Applied Corruption 03 Sep 2005 06:10:10 AM
In article <tsuih1hsurd7gamopfqkvm5blloj9bfh7o@4ax.com>,
Sir Frederick <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote:

On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 06:22:24 -0400, Ron <homo@home.com> wrote:

In article <la7ih1hb3a25pck3ij3qj7ttpdkb1rb62j@4ax.com>,
Sir Frederick <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote:

An Unnatural Disaster


Are you suggesting that we as an intelligent species had no clue that
this region is prone to this natural phenomenon with this article?


No


The issue is not the welfare state, but the foolishness of a species
that is territorial and refuses to operate within our knowledge of our
natural world. MOVE INLAND.

Billions and billions will be spent to re-build only to see the same
thing happen again. What is an intelligent action in my view is to be
proactive rather than reactive until such a time that we can alter or
inhibit a huricane.


The foolishness manifests in several ways. The article discusses a way
not as publicized as the territory stupidity.

Why spend money on people foolish enough to stay in the path of
hurricanes. Failures of government to respond seem to be part of an
unaritculated response to foolishness.
.
User: "Sir Frederick"

Title: Re: Applied Corruption 03 Sep 2005 07:40:50 AM
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 07:10:10 -0400, Ron <homo@home.com> wrote:

In article <tsuih1hsurd7gamopfqkvm5blloj9bfh7o@4ax.com>,
Sir Frederick <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote:

On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 06:22:24 -0400, Ron <homo@home.com> wrote:

In article <la7ih1hb3a25pck3ij3qj7ttpdkb1rb62j@4ax.com>,
Sir Frederick <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote:

An Unnatural Disaster


Are you suggesting that we as an intelligent species had no clue that
this region is prone to this natural phenomenon with this article?


No


The issue is not the welfare state, but the foolishness of a species
that is territorial and refuses to operate within our knowledge of our
natural world. MOVE INLAND.

Billions and billions will be spent to re-build only to see the same
thing happen again. What is an intelligent action in my view is to be
proactive rather than reactive until such a time that we can alter or
inhibit a huricane.


The foolishness manifests in several ways. The article discusses a way
not as publicized as the territory stupidity.


Why spend money on people foolish enough to stay in the path of
hurricanes. Failures of government to respond seem to be part of an
unaritculated response to foolishness.

Could be.
Unfortunately 'government' is always a bureaucracy, hence corrupt,
and lacking enough integrity to deal with foolishness.
--
Best,
Frederick Martin McNeill
Poway, California, United States of America
mmcneill@fuzzysys.com
http://www.fuzzysys.com
http://members.cox.net/fmmcneill
*************************
Phrase of the week :
"It takes a long time to understand nothing."
-- Edward Dahlberg (1900-1977)
:-))))Snort!)
*************************
.
User: "Ron"

Title: Re: Applied Corruption 03 Sep 2005 07:59:10 AM
In article <lt5jh1pu33b5n6ctmm5bsepiodsmd03b8i@4ax.com>,
Sir Frederick <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote:

On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 07:10:10 -0400, Ron <homo@home.com> wrote:

In article <tsuih1hsurd7gamopfqkvm5blloj9bfh7o@4ax.com>,
Sir Frederick <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote:

On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 06:22:24 -0400, Ron <homo@home.com> wrote:

In article <la7ih1hb3a25pck3ij3qj7ttpdkb1rb62j@4ax.com>,
Sir Frederick <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote:

An Unnatural Disaster


Are you suggesting that we as an intelligent species had no clue that
this region is prone to this natural phenomenon with this article?


No


The issue is not the welfare state, but the foolishness of a species
that is territorial and refuses to operate within our knowledge of our
natural world. MOVE INLAND.

Billions and billions will be spent to re-build only to see the same
thing happen again. What is an intelligent action in my view is to be
proactive rather than reactive until such a time that we can alter or
inhibit a huricane.


The foolishness manifests in several ways. The article discusses a way
not as publicized as the territory stupidity.


Why spend money on people foolish enough to stay in the path of
hurricanes. Failures of government to respond seem to be part of an
unaritculated response to foolishness.

Could be.
Unfortunately 'government' is always a bureaucracy, hence corrupt,
and lacking enough integrity to deal with foolishness.

I think I might not have expressed myself clearly enough. Government
failures can also be filtered through the perspective of desired
outcomes. Failing to provide for the elderly, for example, hastens their
death without having to state this as a governmental objective. Failing
to provide for flood victims is a way to avoid reinforcing foolish
behaviour by those who choose to stay in the path of a cyclical and
somewhat predictable natural force. I separate this out from the human
emotional response of anger and compassion at the situation.
.
User: "Sir Frederick"

Title: Re: Applied Corruption 03 Sep 2005 08:27:58 AM
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 08:59:10 -0400, Ron <homo@home.com> wrote:

In article <lt5jh1pu33b5n6ctmm5bsepiodsmd03b8i@4ax.com>,
Sir Frederick <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote:

On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 07:10:10 -0400, Ron <homo@home.com> wrote:

In article <tsuih1hsurd7gamopfqkvm5blloj9bfh7o@4ax.com>,
Sir Frederick <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote:

On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 06:22:24 -0400, Ron <homo@home.com> wrote:

In article <la7ih1hb3a25pck3ij3qj7ttpdkb1rb62j@4ax.com>,
Sir Frederick <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote:

An Unnatural Disaster


Are you suggesting that we as an intelligent species had no clue that
this region is prone to this natural phenomenon with this article?


No


The issue is not the welfare state, but the foolishness of a species
that is territorial and refuses to operate within our knowledge of our
natural world. MOVE INLAND.

Billions and billions will be spent to re-build only to see the same
thing happen again. What is an intelligent action in my view is to be
proactive rather than reactive until such a time that we can alter or
inhibit a huricane.


The foolishness manifests in several ways. The article discusses a way
not as publicized as the territory stupidity.


Why spend money on people foolish enough to stay in the path of
hurricanes. Failures of government to respond seem to be part of an
unaritculated response to foolishness.

Could be.
Unfortunately 'government' is always a bureaucracy, hence corrupt,
and lacking enough integrity to deal with foolishness.


I think I might not have expressed myself clearly enough. Government
failures can also be filtered through the perspective of desired
outcomes. Failing to provide for the elderly, for example, hastens their
death without having to state this as a governmental objective. Failing
to provide for flood victims is a way to avoid reinforcing foolish
behaviour by those who choose to stay in the path of a cyclical and
somewhat predictable natural force. I separate this out from the human
emotional response of anger and compassion at the situation.

I don't separate it out.
For that we need one of your fair machine intelligences.
Humans are too legacy driven.
.
User: "Ron"

Title: Re: Applied Corruption 03 Sep 2005 10:35:20 AM
In article <h09jh116kf0qfagccup2hr640so69feaav@4ax.com>,
Sir Frederick <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote:

On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 08:59:10 -0400, Ron <homo@home.com> wrote:

In article <lt5jh1pu33b5n6ctmm5bsepiodsmd03b8i@4ax.com>,
Sir Frederick <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote:

On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 07:10:10 -0400, Ron <homo@home.com> wrote:

In article <tsuih1hsurd7gamopfqkvm5blloj9bfh7o@4ax.com>,
Sir Frederick <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote:

On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 06:22:24 -0400, Ron <homo@home.com> wrote:

In article <la7ih1hb3a25pck3ij3qj7ttpdkb1rb62j@4ax.com>,
Sir Frederick <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote:

An Unnatural Disaster


Are you suggesting that we as an intelligent species had no clue that
this region is prone to this natural phenomenon with this article?


No


The issue is not the welfare state, but the foolishness of a species
that is territorial and refuses to operate within our knowledge of our
natural world. MOVE INLAND.

Billions and billions will be spent to re-build only to see the same
thing happen again. What is an intelligent action in my view is to be
proactive rather than reactive until such a time that we can alter or
inhibit a huricane.


The foolishness manifests in several ways. The article discusses a way
not as publicized as the territory stupidity.


Why spend money on people foolish enough to stay in the path of
hurricanes. Failures of government to respond seem to be part of an
unaritculated response to foolishness.

Could be.
Unfortunately 'government' is always a bureaucracy, hence corrupt,
and lacking enough integrity to deal with foolishness.


I think I might not have expressed myself clearly enough. Government
failures can also be filtered through the perspective of desired
outcomes. Failing to provide for the elderly, for example, hastens their
death without having to state this as a governmental objective. Failing
to provide for flood victims is a way to avoid reinforcing foolish
behaviour by those who choose to stay in the path of a cyclical and
somewhat predictable natural force. I separate this out from the human
emotional response of anger and compassion at the situation.

I don't separate it out.
For that we need one of your fair machine intelligences.
Humans are too legacy driven.

Life isn't fair.
.








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