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"Zeus" |
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05 Feb 2008 10:56:33 AM |
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BEFORE JESUS EVERYONE WENT TO HELL! |
If Jesus died and saved your world and everyone after Him would enter
heaven as long as they believe in Him, what happened to the millions
of people that died before Jesus was here?
Hell is full of souls. Could it be that reincarnation does exist in
order to give each and every soul the opportunity to enter into
Heaven?
Before Jesus was on earth, there was hundreds of different religions
but no one was a Christian yet. So according to Christians all these
people are suffering in Hell.
Zeus
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| User: "Hagar" |
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| Title: Re: BEFORE JESUS EVERYONE WENT TO HELL! |
05 Feb 2008 02:00:37 PM |
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"Zeus" <Bluestar_x01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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If Jesus died and saved your world and everyone after Him would enter
heaven as long as they believe in Him, what happened to the millions
of people that died before Jesus was here?
Hell is full of souls. Could it be that reincarnation does exist in
order to give each and every soul the opportunity to enter into
Heaven?
Before Jesus was on earth, there was hundreds of different religions
but no one was a Christian yet. So according to Christians all these
people are suffering in Hell.
Zeus
Doesn't that sort of imply that the whole religious thing is a big pile of
BS ...
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| User: "Miller" |
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| Title: Re: BEFORE JESUS EVERYONE WENT TO HELL! |
05 Feb 2008 02:46:13 PM |
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"Zeus" <Bluestar_x01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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If Jesus died and saved your world and everyone after Him would enter
heaven as long as they believe in Him, what happened to the millions
of people that died before Jesus was here?
Hell is full of souls. Could it be that reincarnation does exist in
order to give each and every soul the opportunity to enter into
Heaven?
Before Jesus was on earth, there was hundreds of different religions
but no one was a Christian yet. So according to Christians all these
people are suffering in Hell.
Zeus
I cannot think of any Christians I have known who would agree with what you
seem to think they believe.
Scott
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: BEFORE JESUS EVERYONE WENT TO HELL! |
05 Feb 2008 04:02:55 PM |
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On Feb 5, 11:56 am, Zeus <Bluestar_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
If Jesus died and saved your world and everyone after Him would enter
heaven as long as they believe in Him, what happened to the millions
of people that died before Jesus was here?
Hell is full of souls. Could it be that reincarnation does exist in
order to give each and every soul the opportunity to enter into
Heaven?
Before Jesus was on earth, there was hundreds of different religions
but no one was a Christian yet. So according to Christians all these
people are suffering in Hell.
Zeus
If you really cared to know, I would suggest reading Romans. Paul
describes how salvation came through faith. He talks about how
Abraham was saved through faith. In Abraham's case it was faith in
the savior that was yet to come. In our case it is faith is the
savior that has already come.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: BEFORE JESUS EVERYONE WENT TO HELL! |
05 Feb 2008 12:46:43 PM |
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On Feb 5, 11:56=A0am, Zeus <Bluestar_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
If Jesus died and saved your world and everyone after Him would enter
heaven as long as they believe in Him, what happened to the millions
of people that died before Jesus was here?
Hell is full of souls. =A0Could it be that reincarnation does exist in
order to give each and every soul the opportunity to enter into
Heaven?
Before Jesus was on earth, there was hundreds of different religions
but no one was a Christian yet. =A0So according to Christians all these
people are suffering in Hell.
Zeus
The Jesus theory is only 1600 years old. For the first 400 years,
it was a small cult, and didn't get rolling till Constantine. If
Constantine never converted, there would be no Jesus theory. Humans
were walking the planet 100,000+ years. Not only that, but only a
small handful of today's population believe in the Jesus theory. For
example, all Jews will go to hell, all of Asia, almost all of Africa,
all Muslims, and so forth. Not to mention life on other planets that
never even heard of religion much less the Jesus theory.
Religion Is For The Weak Minded.
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| User: "Miller" |
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| Title: Re: BEFORE JESUS EVERYONE WENT TO HELL! |
05 Feb 2008 02:47:05 PM |
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<blackbane@anneli.com> wrote in message
news:a095e20d-5b4c-45bd-b73b-c784ddc89d41@m62g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 5, 11:56 am, Zeus <Bluestar_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
If Jesus died and saved your world and everyone after Him would enter
heaven as long as they believe in Him, what happened to the millions
of people that died before Jesus was here?
Hell is full of souls. Could it be that reincarnation does exist in
order to give each and every soul the opportunity to enter into
Heaven?
Before Jesus was on earth, there was hundreds of different religions
but no one was a Christian yet. So according to Christians all these
people are suffering in Hell.
Zeus
The Jesus theory is only 1600 years old. For the first 400 years,
it was a small cult, and didn't get rolling till Constantine. If
Constantine never converted, there would be no Jesus theory. Humans
were walking the planet 100,000+ years. Not only that, but only a
small handful of today's population believe in the Jesus theory. For
example, all Jews will go to hell, all of Asia, almost all of Africa,
all Muslims, and so forth. Not to mention life on other planets that
never even heard of religion much less the Jesus theory.
Religion Is For The Weak Minded.
Really? Does that include Wicca and other neo-pagan beliefs?
Scott
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| User: "Medusa Slox" |
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| Title: Re: BEFORE JESUS EVERYONE WENT TO HELL! |
05 Feb 2008 07:24:11 PM |
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"Miller" <chumley702@chartermi.net> wrote in message
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: <blackbane@anneli.com> wrote in message
: news:a095e20d-5b4c-45bd-b73b-c784ddc89d41@m62g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
: On Feb 5, 11:56 am, Zeus <Bluestar_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: > If Jesus died and saved your world and everyone after Him would enter
: > heaven as long as they believe in Him, what happened to the millions
: > of people that died before Jesus was here?
: >
: > Hell is full of souls. Could it be that reincarnation does exist in
: > order to give each and every soul the opportunity to enter into
: > Heaven?
: >
: > Before Jesus was on earth, there was hundreds of different religions
: > but no one was a Christian yet. So according to Christians all these
: > people are suffering in Hell.
: >
: > Zeus
:
:
: The Jesus theory is only 1600 years old. For the first 400 years,
: it was a small cult, and didn't get rolling till Constantine. If
: Constantine never converted, there would be no Jesus theory. Humans
: were walking the planet 100,000+ years. Not only that, but only a
: small handful of today's population believe in the Jesus theory. For
: example, all Jews will go to hell, all of Asia, almost all of Africa,
: all Muslims, and so forth. Not to mention life on other planets that
: never even heard of religion much less the Jesus theory.
:
: Religion Is For The Weak Minded.
:
:
:
: Really? Does that include Wicca and other neo-pagan beliefs?
:
: Scott
Yes. And I'm sure V agrees.
Medusa Slox
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| User: "aine" |
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| Title: Re: BEFORE JESUS EVERYONE WENT TO HELL! |
05 Feb 2008 09:08:21 PM |
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On Feb 5, 5:24=A0pm, "Medusa Slox" <med...@slox.com> wrote:
"Miller" <chumley...@chartermi.net> wrote in message
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:: <blackb...@anneli.com> wrote in message
:news:a095e20d-5b4c-45bd-b73b-c784ddc89d41@m62g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...=
: On Feb 5, 11:56 am, Zeus <Bluestar_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: > If Jesus died and saved your world and everyone after Him would enter
: > heaven as long as they believe in Him, what happened to the millions
: > of people that died before Jesus was here?
: >
: > Hell is full of souls. Could it be that reincarnation does exist in
: > order to give each and every soul the opportunity to enter into
: > Heaven?
: >
: > Before Jesus was on earth, there was hundreds of different religions
: > but no one was a Christian yet. So according to Christians all these
: > people are suffering in Hell.
: >
: > Zeus
:
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: =A0 The Jesus theory is only 1600 years old. =A0For the first 400 years,=
: it was a small cult, and didn't get rolling till Constantine. =A0If
: Constantine never converted, there would be no Jesus theory. =A0Humans
: were walking the planet 100,000+ years. =A0Not only that, but only a
: small handful of today's population believe in the Jesus theory. =A0For
: example, all Jews will go to hell, all of Asia, almost all of Africa,
: all Muslims, and so forth. =A0Not to mention life on other planets that
: never even heard of religion much less the Jesus theory.
:
: =A0 =A0Religion Is For The Weak Minded.
:
:
:
: =A0Really? =A0Does that include Wicca and other neo-pagan beliefs?
:
: Scott
Yes. And I'm sure V agrees.
Medusa Slox
That is a very bold statement. Not to mention offensive to many. It is
however your right to have that opinion. I prefer to call it faith,
yet do not mind people calling my ways a religion.
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| User: "Medusa Slox" |
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05 Feb 2008 10:28:50 PM |
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"aine" <aine_nicneven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 5, 5:24 pm, "Medusa Slox" <med...@slox.com> wrote:
"Miller" <chumley...@chartermi.net> wrote in message
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:: <blackb...@anneli.com> wrote in message
:news:a095e20d-5b4c-45bd-b73b-c784ddc89d41@m62g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
: On Feb 5, 11:56 am, Zeus <Bluestar_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: > If Jesus died and saved your world and everyone after Him would enter
: > heaven as long as they believe in Him, what happened to the millions
: > of people that died before Jesus was here?
: >
: > Hell is full of souls. Could it be that reincarnation does exist in
: > order to give each and every soul the opportunity to enter into
: > Heaven?
: >
: > Before Jesus was on earth, there was hundreds of different religions
: > but no one was a Christian yet. So according to Christians all these
: > people are suffering in Hell.
: >
: > Zeus
:
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: The Jesus theory is only 1600 years old. For the first 400 years,
: it was a small cult, and didn't get rolling till Constantine. If
: Constantine never converted, there would be no Jesus theory. Humans
: were walking the planet 100,000+ years. Not only that, but only a
: small handful of today's population believe in the Jesus theory. For
: example, all Jews will go to hell, all of Asia, almost all of Africa,
: all Muslims, and so forth. Not to mention life on other planets that
: never even heard of religion much less the Jesus theory.
:
: Religion Is For The Weak Minded.
:
:
:
: Really? Does that include Wicca and other neo-pagan beliefs?
:
: Scott
Yes. And I'm sure V agrees.
Medusa Slox
That is a very bold statement. Not to mention offensive to many. It is
however your right to have that opinion. I prefer to call it faith,
yet do not mind people calling my ways a religion.
Medusa:
Faith is belief. Knowledge is knowledge.
Medusa Slox
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| User: "sarchasm" |
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| Title: Re: BEFORE JESUS EVERYONE WENT TO HELL! |
06 Feb 2008 12:52:54 AM |
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"Medusa Slox" <medusa@slox.com> wrote:
"aine" <aine_nicneven@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Feb 5, 5:24 pm, "Medusa Slox" <med...@slox.com> wrote:
[re: religious belief being for the weak-minded]:
Yes. And I'm sure V agrees.
Medusa Slox
That is a very bold statement. Not to mention offensive to many. It is
however your right to have that opinion. I prefer to call it faith,
yet do not mind people calling my ways a religion.
Medusa:
Faith is belief. Knowledge is knowledge.
Yet many will tend to believe that their faith is knowledge, thus blurring
the concepts. One might ponder how a person knows that their 'knowledge' is
not based upon faith/belief.
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| User: "" |
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05 Feb 2008 09:36:44 PM |
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=A0 =A0Religion Is For The Weak Minded.
=A0Really? =A0Does that include Wicca and other neo-pagan beliefs?
Scott
You haven't run into the blackbane troll(s) before?
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| User: "Joseph Littleshoes" |
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05 Feb 2008 01:59:57 PM |
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wrote:
On Feb 5, 11:56 am, Zeus <Bluestar_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
If Jesus died and saved your world and everyone after Him would enter
heaven as long as they believe in Him, what happened to the millions
of people that died before Jesus was here?
Hell is full of souls. Could it be that reincarnation does exist in
order to give each and every soul the opportunity to enter into
Heaven?
Before Jesus was on earth, there was hundreds of different religions
but no one was a Christian yet. So according to Christians all these
people are suffering in Hell.
Zeus
The Jesus theory is only 1600 years old. For the first 400 years,
it was a small cult, and didn't get rolling till Constantine. If
Constantine never converted, there would be no Jesus theory. Humans
were walking the planet 100,000+ years. Not only that, but only a
small handful of today's population believe in the Jesus theory. For
example, all Jews will go to hell, all of Asia, almost all of Africa,
all Muslims, and so forth. Not to mention life on other planets that
never even heard of religion much less the Jesus theory.
Religion Is For The Weak Minded.
Your obsessive/compulsive interest in it is suggestive of just such a
deficiency of your own, though, admitting you have a problem is the
first step in dealing with it.....
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| User: "Saint Isadore Patron Saint of the Internet" |
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05 Feb 2008 10:41:47 PM |
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As an obsessive compulsive conservative extremest I
was obsessed by your own deficiency. Admitting that
you have that problem is the first step in dealing. Just
be sure you always sell it for two time your cost and it
will be all good forever!
- Tom
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: BEFORE JESUS EVERYONE WENT TO HELL! |
05 Feb 2008 04:07:35 PM |
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On Feb 5, 1:46 pm, wrote:
On Feb 5, 11:56 am, Zeus <Bluestar_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
If Jesus died and saved your world and everyone after Him would enter
heaven as long as they believe in Him, what happened to the millions
of people that died before Jesus was here?
Hell is full of souls. Could it be that reincarnation does exist in
order to give each and every soul the opportunity to enter into
Heaven?
Before Jesus was on earth, there was hundreds of different religions
but no one was a Christian yet. So according to Christians all these
people are suffering in Hell.
Zeus
The Jesus theory is only 1600 years old. For the first 400 years,
it was a small cult, and didn't get rolling till Constantine. If
Constantine never converted, there would be no Jesus theory. Humans
were walking the planet 100,000+ years. Not only that, but only a
small handful of today's population believe in the Jesus theory. For
example, all Jews will go to hell, all of Asia, almost all of Africa,
all Muslims, and so forth. Not to mention life on other planets that
never even heard of religion much less the Jesus theory.
Religion Is For The Weak Minded.
.--. .----------------
// / \ __ / ---------
///////\( -, -------
//// /// '~ ( -----
// / // : ) ----- Raven
/ / / /) / ---- BlackBane
/ //..\\ A Real Witch
~~~~~~UU~~~~UU~~~~~~~~~
'//||\\
http://www.myspace.com/raven_blackbane
PNN (Psychic Network News): Bringing You Tomorrow's News Yesterday.
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This may sound nice to you, but it is simply not true. In the first
100 years after Jesus birth, Christianity and spread throughout the
entire Roman empire and beyond. Constantine conversion from a
historical point appears to be politically motivated (it hard to judge
his spiritual state) and was really more of a reflection of the
current state of things. If anything you could make a strong argument
that Constantine hurt the church by diluting its message with a
political/nationalistic theme.
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| User: "" |
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05 Feb 2008 05:06:53 PM |
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On Feb 6, 4:46=A0am, wrote:
On Feb 5, 11:56=A0am, Zeus <Bluestar_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
If Jesus died and saved your world and everyone after Him would enter
heaven as long as they believe in Him, what happened to the millions
of people that died before Jesus was here?
Hell is full of souls. =A0Could it be that reincarnation does exist in
order to give each and every soul the opportunity to enter into
Heaven?
Before Jesus was on earth, there was hundreds of different religions
but no one was a Christian yet. =A0So according to Christians all these
people are suffering in Hell.
Zeus
=A0 The Jesus theory is only 1600 years old. =A0For the first 400 years,
it was a small cult, and didn't get rolling till Constantine. =A0If
Constantine never converted, there would be no Jesus theory. =A0Humans
were walking the planet 100,000+ years. =A0Not only that, but only a
small handful of today's population believe in the Jesus theory. =A0For
example, all Jews will go to hell, all of Asia, almost all of Africa,
all Muslims, and so forth. =A0Not to mention life on other planets that
never even heard of religion much less the Jesus theory.
=A0 =A0Religion Is For The Weak Minded.
Having visited some of the places you mention above, looks to me as
though they arealready there...even if only temporarily.
BOfL
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| User: "www.freedomtofascism.com" |
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05 Feb 2008 07:31:12 PM |
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:56:33 -0800 (PST), Zeus <Bluestar_x01@yahoo.com>
wrote:
If Jesus died and saved your world and everyone after Him would enter
heaven as long as they believe in Him, what happened to the millions
of people that died before Jesus was here?
Hell is full of souls. Could it be that reincarnation does exist in
order to give each and every soul the opportunity to enter into
Heaven?
Before Jesus was on earth, there was hundreds of different religions
but no one was a Christian yet. So according to Christians all these
people are suffering in Hell.
Zeus
What if you have to live in 'hell' first in order to test your performance
before the extraterrestrials who created human beings allow you earn your
way to immortality by joining them?
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