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Topic: Science > Philosophy
User: "Veonah"
Date: 21 Jan 2008 10:11:17 AM
Object: Conversation and Communication
Having the ability to talk with one another and understand each other
is the only solution for many problems that face individuals and the
world today. Sounds simplistic even though it is true in every way.
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User: "brian fletcher"

Title: Re: Conversation and Communication 21 Jan 2008 10:51:07 PM
"Veonah" <grtrenn@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:62112690-daa3-495c-b334-e07178ab1be6@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

Having the ability to talk with one another and understand each other
is the only solution for many problems that face individuals and the
world today. Sounds simplistic even though it is true in every way.

visit : http://www.neylae.bravehost.com

What is also true, is all conflict has the same cause. The different
'abilities' between speaker and listner being the reason.
BOfL
.
User: "Don Stockbauer"

Title: Re: Conversation and Communication 21 Jan 2008 11:05:02 PM
On Jan 21, 10:51 pm, "brian fletcher" <brian...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

"Veonah" <grtr...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:62112690-daa3-495c-b334-e07178ab1be6@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

Having the ability to talk with one another and understand each other
is the only solution for many problems that face individuals and the
world today. Sounds simplistic even though it is true in every way.


visit :http://www.neylae.bravehost.com


What is also true, is all conflict has the same cause. The different
'abilities' between speaker and listner being the reason.

BOfL

Actually, the most important effect of humanity's compulsive need to
communicate with each other (once global telecommunications became
enabled) has been to create the global brain.
.
User: "Veonah"

Title: Re: Conversation and Communication 23 Jan 2008 03:55:58 PM
On Jan 22, 12:05 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Jan 21, 10:51 pm, "brian fletcher" <brian...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

"Veonah" <grtr...@gmail.com> wrote in message


news:62112690-daa3-495c-b334-e07178ab1be6@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...


Having the ability to talk with one another and understand each other
is the only solution for many problems that face individuals and the
world today. Sounds simplistic even though it is true in every way.


visit :http://www.neylae.bravehost.com


What is also true, is all conflict has the same cause. The different
'abilities' between speaker and listner being the reason.


BOfL


Actually, the most important effect of humanity's compulsive need to
communicate with each other (once global telecommunications became
enabled) has been to create the global brain.

I think the world is in short supply of conversation. I personally has
been in dire need of someone to truelly communicate with but all in
vain. Either people are too paranoid to actually engage in
conversation with another human being or I am totally sitting outside
of the universe not knowing exactly how to join in the great
conversation which every one else is having with each other but me.
.
User: "Tron"

Title: Re: Conversation and Communication 23 Jan 2008 06:18:42 PM
"Veonah" <grtrenn@gmail.com> skrev i melding
news:bf86d26f-3013-44d0-9074-28f9f9d25058@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

On Jan 22, 12:05 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Jan 21, 10:51 pm, "brian fletcher" <brian...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:


I think the world is in short supply of conversation. I personally has
been in dire need of someone to truelly communicate with but all in
vain. Either people are too paranoid to actually engage in
conversation with another human being or I am totally sitting outside
of the universe not knowing exactly how to join in the great
conversation which every one else is having with each other but me.

My first impulse was the thought: "A girl's solution to problems: more
talk".
And I truly believe that one has to assign talk its place in the chain of
events that are "problem solving".
If not, even conversation is just talk.
However ...
It seems like you are a real person .. somwhere, somehow ...
This is a public forum that is peer-reviewed (although you might not like
all the peers), i.e. all of us posters get to read all posts,
... so if you want to converse about something, feel free. If you want to
converse about the lack of conversation, for starters, se above.
T
.

User: "Wordsmith"

Title: Re: Conversation and Communication 23 Jan 2008 05:17:34 PM
On Jan 23, 2:55=A0pm, Veonah <grtr...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jan 22, 12:05 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...@hotmail.com> wrote:





On Jan 21, 10:51 pm, "brian fletcher" <brian...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:


"Veonah" <grtr...@gmail.com> wrote in message


news:62112690-daa3-495c-b334-e07178ab1be6@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com.=

...


Having the ability to talk with one another and understand each othe=

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is the only solution for many problems that face individuals and the=
world today. Sounds simplistic even though it is true in every way.


visit :http://www.neylae.bravehost.com


What is also true, is all conflict has the same cause. The different
'abilities' between speaker and listner being the reason.


BOfL


Actually, the most important effect of humanity's compulsive need to
communicate with each other (once global telecommunications became
enabled) has been to create the global brain.


I think the world is in short supply of conversation. I personally has
been in dire need of someone to truelly communicate with but all in
vain. Either people are too paranoid to actually engage in
conversation with another human being or I am totally sitting outside
of the universe not knowing exactly how to join in the great
conversation which every one else is having with each other but me.

Conversation, sad to say, seems a lost art. By "conversation" I don't
mean chit chat; I mean CONVERSE. I read a lot. I have a broad
vocabulary,
and I tend to use it in speech. I speak in compound-complex sentences
and even, wonder of wonders, insert subordinate clauses into them.
I get the strangest looks from some when I do this. I'm not just
referring
to Gen-Xers. People of my own vintage (baby boomers) often exhibit
similar incredulity. I get the following impression: "How DARE you
inflict
such a manner of speech on me! You've got to tone that down to an
elementary school level. You make me feel stupid." I feel put upon to
translate everything I say into baby talk. *heavy sigh* If your
vocabulary
is small, read more. Knowledge is power. Over and out.
W : )
.
User: "James Bath"

Title: Re: Conversation and Communication 24 Jan 2008 08:29:13 AM
"Wordsmith" <wordsmith@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
news:e67ed5d1-2fe8-4f1c-a868-a62cbdbdd8a9@d70g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 23, 2:55 pm, Veonah <grtr...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jan 22, 12:05 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...@hotmail.com> wrote:





On Jan 21, 10:51 pm, "brian fletcher" <brian...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:


"Veonah" <grtr...@gmail.com> wrote in message


news:62112690-daa3-495c-b334-e07178ab1be6@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...


Having the ability to talk with one another and understand each
other
is the only solution for many problems that face individuals and the
world today. Sounds simplistic even though it is true in every way.


visit :http://www.neylae.bravehost.com


What is also true, is all conflict has the same cause. The different
'abilities' between speaker and listner being the reason.


BOfL


Actually, the most important effect of humanity's compulsive need to
communicate with each other (once global telecommunications became
enabled) has been to create the global brain.


I think the world is in short supply of conversation. I personally has
been in dire need of someone to truelly communicate with but all in
vain. Either people are too paranoid to actually engage in
conversation with another human being or I am totally sitting outside
of the universe not knowing exactly how to join in the great
conversation which every one else is having with each other but me.

Conversation, sad to say, seems a lost art. By "conversation" I don't
mean chit chat; I mean CONVERSE. I read a lot. I have a broad
vocabulary,
and I tend to use it in speech. I speak in compound-complex sentences
and even, wonder of wonders, insert subordinate clauses into them.
I get the strangest looks from some when I do this. I'm not just
referring
to Gen-Xers. People of my own vintage (baby boomers) often exhibit
similar incredulity. I get the following impression: "How DARE you
inflict
such a manner of speech on me! You've got to tone that down to an
elementary school level. You make me feel stupid." I feel put upon to
translate everything I say into baby talk. *heavy sigh* If your
vocabulary
is small, read more. Knowledge is power. Over and out.
W : )
Most communication between human beings these days has perverted into "Bark!
Bark! Tweet. Tweet." -- just what the animals outside my window do. It is
noise people make to have an excuse to band together against the fear of
lonliness. Often, this kind of communication's most eloquent moments
manifest in clubbing one another with borrowed, empty-headed opinions.
It greatly benefits people's communications skills by, as you suggest,
reading -- especially reading the classics and the better literature of
today. This is because by carefully doing so one learns, if only through
osmosis while running his or her eyes across a word arrangement that a
master of the craft painstakingly constructed, how to think and speak more
efficiently and communicate more intelligently.
James Bath
.
User: "Veonah"

Title: Re: Conversation and Communication 24 Jan 2008 09:19:47 AM
On Jan 24, 9:29 am, "James Bath" <ba...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

"Wordsmith" <wordsm...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message

news:e67ed5d1-2fe8-4f1c-a868-a62cbdbdd8a9@d70g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 23, 2:55 pm, Veonah <grtr...@gmail.com> wrote:



On Jan 22, 12:05 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...@hotmail.com> wrote:


On Jan 21, 10:51 pm, "brian fletcher" <brian...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:


"Veonah" <grtr...@gmail.com> wrote in message


news:62112690-daa3-495c-b334-e07178ab1be6@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...


Having the ability to talk with one another and understand each
other
is the only solution for many problems that face individuals and the
world today. Sounds simplistic even though it is true in every way.


visit :http://www.neylae.bravehost.com


What is also true, is all conflict has the same cause. The different
'abilities' between speaker and listner being the reason.


BOfL


Actually, the most important effect of humanity's compulsive need to
communicate with each other (once global telecommunications became
enabled) has been to create the global brain.


I think the world is in short supply of conversation. I personally has
been in dire need of someone to truelly communicate with but all in
vain. Either people are too paranoid to actually engage in
conversation with another human being or I am totally sitting outside
of the universe not knowing exactly how to join in the great
conversation which every one else is having with each other but me.


Conversation, sad to say, seems a lost art. By "conversation" I don't
mean chit chat; I mean CONVERSE. I read a lot. I have a broad
vocabulary,
and I tend to use it in speech. I speak in compound-complex sentences
and even, wonder of wonders, insert subordinate clauses into them.
I get the strangest looks from some when I do this. I'm not just
referring
to Gen-Xers. People of my own vintage (baby boomers) often exhibit
similar incredulity. I get the following impression: "How DARE you
inflict
such a manner of speech on me! You've got to tone that down to an
elementary school level. You make me feel stupid." I feel put upon to
translate everything I say into baby talk. *heavy sigh* If your
vocabulary
is small, read more. Knowledge is power. Over and out.

W : )

Most communication between human beings these days has perverted into "Bark!
Bark! Tweet. Tweet." -- just what the animals outside my window do. It is
noise people make to have an excuse to band together against the fear of
lonliness. Often, this kind of communication's most eloquent moments
manifest in clubbing one another with borrowed, empty-headed opinions.

It greatly benefits people's communications skills by, as you suggest,
reading -- especially reading the classics and the better literature of
today. This is because by carefully doing so one learns, if only through
osmosis while running his or her eyes across a word arrangement that a
master of the craft painstakingly constructed, how to think and speak more
efficiently and communicate more intelligently.

James Bath

James Bath, just reading your response gives me the impression that
your problem with conversation is not your use of heavy vocabulary but
rather it is your tone of voice. Have you ever heard of the saying
that people hardly forget how you make them feel.... If you get into a
conversation with people whom you describe the way you have described
all your audiance, I do not know how you expect them to bare through
the vocabulary..... if at all it is heavy as you say it
is. I have always found that vocabulary in speech is often not an
issue because most of the time people can always pick out the meaning
from the theme flow.
.
User: "James Bath"

Title: Re: Conversation and Communication 24 Jan 2008 04:54:09 PM
I. um, don't know why but when I replied earlier in this thread to
Wordsmith's message, my software did not use the greater-than signs to show
where his message ended and mine began. It all ran together after I posted
it. In case you want to know, my message to him began with "Most
communication between human beings these days..." and went on to the end.
Everything before that was not what I wrote.
"Veonah" <grtrenn@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:fe6baac5-660a-417d-b255-3f6e907c5d49@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

On Jan 24, 9:29 am, "James Bath" <ba...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

"Wordsmith" <wordsm...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message

news:e67ed5d1-2fe8-4f1c-a868-a62cbdbdd8a9@d70g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 23, 2:55 pm, Veonah <grtr...@gmail.com> wrote:



On Jan 22, 12:05 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...@hotmail.com> wrote:


On Jan 21, 10:51 pm, "brian fletcher" <brian...@bigpond.net.au>
wrote:


"Veonah" <grtr...@gmail.com> wrote in message


news:62112690-daa3-495c-b334-e07178ab1be6@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...


Having the ability to talk with one another and understand each
other
is the only solution for many problems that face individuals and
the
world today. Sounds simplistic even though it is true in every
way.


visit :http://www.neylae.bravehost.com


What is also true, is all conflict has the same cause. The
different
'abilities' between speaker and listner being the reason.


BOfL


Actually, the most important effect of humanity's compulsive need to
communicate with each other (once global telecommunications became
enabled) has been to create the global brain.


I think the world is in short supply of conversation. I personally has
been in dire need of someone to truelly communicate with but all in
vain. Either people are too paranoid to actually engage in
conversation with another human being or I am totally sitting outside
of the universe not knowing exactly how to join in the great
conversation which every one else is having with each other but me.


Conversation, sad to say, seems a lost art. By "conversation" I don't
mean chit chat; I mean CONVERSE. I read a lot. I have a broad
vocabulary,
and I tend to use it in speech. I speak in compound-complex sentences
and even, wonder of wonders, insert subordinate clauses into them.
I get the strangest looks from some when I do this. I'm not just
referring
to Gen-Xers. People of my own vintage (baby boomers) often exhibit
similar incredulity. I get the following impression: "How DARE you
inflict
such a manner of speech on me! You've got to tone that down to an
elementary school level. You make me feel stupid." I feel put upon to
translate everything I say into baby talk. *heavy sigh* If your
vocabulary
is small, read more. Knowledge is power. Over and out.

W : )

Most communication between human beings these days has perverted into
"Bark!
Bark! Tweet. Tweet." -- just what the animals outside my window do. It
is
noise people make to have an excuse to band together against the fear of
lonliness. Often, this kind of communication's most eloquent moments
manifest in clubbing one another with borrowed, empty-headed opinions.

It greatly benefits people's communications skills by, as you suggest,
reading -- especially reading the classics and the better literature of
today. This is because by carefully doing so one learns, if only through
osmosis while running his or her eyes across a word arrangement that a
master of the craft painstakingly constructed, how to think and speak
more
efficiently and communicate more intelligently.

James Bath


James Bath, just reading your response gives me the impression that
your problem with conversation is not your use of heavy vocabulary but
rather it is your tone of voice. Have you ever heard of the saying
that people hardly forget how you make them feel.... If you get into a
conversation with people whom you describe the way you have described
all your audiance, I do not know how you expect them to bare through
the vocabulary..... if at all it is heavy as you say it
is. I have always found that vocabulary in speech is often not an
issue because most of the time people can always pick out the meaning
from the theme flow.

.







User: "Bret Cahill"

Title: Re: Conversation and Communication 21 Jan 2008 11:04:40 PM
Somewhere DeTocqueville pointed out that Americans can communicate but
they cannot converse.
Bret Cahill
.


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