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Topic: Science > Philosophy
User: "francisco"
Date: 24 Aug 2005 05:51:00 PM
Object: how does God defy the second law of thermodynamics?
if i drop an ice cube in a cup of hot water, the hot water cools down and
the ice cube melts simultaneously until the temperature of the water and the
temperature of melted ice cube are the same. the final product of this
process is a body of lukewarm water. a negative entropy change is a change
in the state of a system towards organization and order (a change towards
life), and a positive entropy change is a change in the state of a system
towards disorganization, disorder, and randomness (towards death). the
change of the hot water in this process is a negative entropy change., and
the change of the ice cube is a positive entropy change. if sw = the
negative entropy change of the hot water and si = the positive entropy
change of the ice cube, then, according to the second law of thermodynamics,
sw + si > 0. in other words, the total entropy change of the process during
the passage of time is positive. this means that the direction of time of
the things in this world under the influence of the second law of
thermodynamics is towards death.
on the other hand, suppose that God is a divine ice cube. if i drop the
divine ice cube in a cup of hot water, the hot water cools down, but the
divine ice cube does not melt (it does not change at all). the change of the
hot water is a negative entropy change, but there is no entropy change in
the state of the divine ice cube. if sw = the negative entropy change of the
hot water and c = the constant (yet dynamic) state of the divine ice cube,
then sw + c < 0. in other words, the total entropy change of the process
during the passage of time is negative. this means that the direction of
time of the things of this world under the influence of God is towards life
(the opposite direction of the time of the things in this world under the
influence of the second law of thermodynamics).
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User: "Tron"

Title: Re: how does God defy the second law of thermodynamics? 24 Aug 2005 07:33:39 PM
Hi,
You're in the wrong newsgroup; this is alt.philosophy.
Apart from that, the entropy thing is probably the whole trick of
existing as a god.
And that is probably why he forbade men to eat of that second tree,
the one with the thermodynamic apples, known to the Greeks as the apples
of the Hesperides and the Norse as the apples of Ida, IIRC, who gave the
gods eternal youth.
HTH
T
"francisco" <paco1955@sbcglobal.net> skrev i melding
news:oR6Pe.395$MN5.379@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...

if i drop an ice cube in a cup of hot water, the hot water cools down
and the ice cube melts simultaneously until the temperature of the
water and the temperature of melted ice cube are the same. the final
product of this process is a body of lukewarm water. a negative
entropy change is a change in the state of a system towards
organization and order (a change towards life), and a positive entropy
change is a change in the state of a system towards disorganization,
disorder, and randomness (towards death). the change of the hot water
in this process is a negative entropy change., and the change of the
ice cube is a positive entropy change. if sw = the negative entropy
change of the hot water and si = the positive entropy change of the
ice cube, then, according to the second law of thermodynamics, sw + si

0. in other words, the total entropy change of the process during

the passage of time is positive. this means that the direction of time
of the things in this world under the influence of the second law of
thermodynamics is towards death.

on the other hand, suppose that God is a divine ice cube. if i drop
the divine ice cube in a cup of hot water, the hot water cools down,
but the divine ice cube does not melt (it does not change at all). the
change of the hot water is a negative entropy change, but there is no
entropy change in the state of the divine ice cube. if sw = the
negative entropy change of the hot water and c = the constant (yet
dynamic) state of the divine ice cube, then sw + c < 0. in other
words, the total entropy change of the process during the passage of
time is negative. this means that the direction of time of the things
of this world under the influence of God is towards life (the opposite
direction of the time of the things in this world under the influence
of the second law of thermodynamics).


.
User: "Miller"

Title: Re: how does God defy the second law of thermodynamics? 25 Aug 2005 07:39:39 PM
Great, now if only someone would come up with eternally cold icecubes!
Scott
"Tron" <tronfuru@frisurf.no> wrote in message
news:Kl8Pe.152$Ti5.5274@news2.e.nsc.no...

Hi,

You're in the wrong newsgroup; this is alt.philosophy.

Apart from that, the entropy thing is probably the whole trick of
existing as a god.
And that is probably why he forbade men to eat of that second tree,
the one with the thermodynamic apples, known to the Greeks as the apples
of the Hesperides and the Norse as the apples of Ida, IIRC, who gave the
gods eternal youth.

HTH

T

"francisco" <paco1955@sbcglobal.net> skrev i melding
news:oR6Pe.395$MN5.379@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...

if i drop an ice cube in a cup of hot water, the hot water cools down
and the ice cube melts simultaneously until the temperature of the
water and the temperature of melted ice cube are the same. the final
product of this process is a body of lukewarm water. a negative
entropy change is a change in the state of a system towards
organization and order (a change towards life), and a positive entropy
change is a change in the state of a system towards disorganization,
disorder, and randomness (towards death). the change of the hot water
in this process is a negative entropy change., and the change of the
ice cube is a positive entropy change. if sw = the negative entropy
change of the hot water and si = the positive entropy change of the
ice cube, then, according to the second law of thermodynamics, sw + si

0. in other words, the total entropy change of the process during

the passage of time is positive. this means that the direction of time
of the things in this world under the influence of the second law of
thermodynamics is towards death.

on the other hand, suppose that God is a divine ice cube. if i drop
the divine ice cube in a cup of hot water, the hot water cools down,
but the divine ice cube does not melt (it does not change at all). the
change of the hot water is a negative entropy change, but there is no
entropy change in the state of the divine ice cube. if sw = the
negative entropy change of the hot water and c = the constant (yet
dynamic) state of the divine ice cube, then sw + c < 0. in other
words, the total entropy change of the process during the passage of
time is negative. this means that the direction of time of the things
of this world under the influence of God is towards life (the opposite
direction of the time of the things in this world under the influence
of the second law of thermodynamics).




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