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"Dan" |
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13 Oct 2006 01:50:22 PM |
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Humanity's fate is not carved in stone |
Where is the turning point in life? When does it start? At what point
do we stand up and say that enough is enough, I do not want this
anymore?
When we look about the world and see the troubles affecting humanity,
does it make you wonder why we put up with the wrongs in the world. Why
do they have such a hold over us? We can be a person in America,
Canada, South America, Europe, Africa, Asia or the Middle East and know
that crimes against humanity are wrong. We know that lack of integrity
and compassion in civilization is a trait that we all can use
improvement on. We know that our snail pace approach to our declining
environment will prove tragic for our children. We know belief in the
goodness in humanity has been replaced by the uncertainty in our
ability right the wrongs. We have grown bitter and disillusioned. We
see no peace in our time. Our generation is another generation that has
failed humanity.
It doesn't have to be like this. We do not have to hang our heads
down low and await the inevitable decline. This is not humanity's
destiny. Our fate is not carved in stone. Just as it was humanity's
decision to succumb to such a low point in our existence, it will be
humanity's decision to stop the decline of our civilization. It will
be our choice to stop the bloodshed. It will be our choice to mend our
environment. It will be our choice to put integrity and compassion back
up where it belongs. These are the decisions that humanity must make.
We are the ones that are allowing the tragedies in the world to
continue and only we are the ones that can do something about it.
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| User: "tooly" |
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| Title: Re: Humanity's fate is not carved in stone |
24 Oct 2006 08:25:28 PM |
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"Dan" <dan.dean@dsscompany.com> wrote in message
news:1160765422.106795.166220@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Where is the turning point in life? When does it start? At what point
do we stand up and say that enough is enough, I do not want this
anymore?
When we look about the world and see the troubles affecting humanity,
does it make you wonder why we put up with the wrongs in the world. Why
do they have such a hold over us? We can be a person in America,
Canada, South America, Europe, Africa, Asia or the Middle East and know
that crimes against humanity are wrong. We know that lack of integrity
and compassion in civilization is a trait that we all can use
improvement on. We know that our snail pace approach to our declining
environment will prove tragic for our children. We know belief in the
goodness in humanity has been replaced by the uncertainty in our
ability right the wrongs. We have grown bitter and disillusioned. We
see no peace in our time. Our generation is another generation that has
failed humanity.
It doesn't have to be like this. We do not have to hang our heads
down low and await the inevitable decline. This is not humanity's
destiny. Our fate is not carved in stone. Just as it was humanity's
decision to succumb to such a low point in our existence, it will be
humanity's decision to stop the decline of our civilization. It will
be our choice to stop the bloodshed. It will be our choice to mend our
environment. It will be our choice to put integrity and compassion back
up where it belongs. These are the decisions that humanity must make.
We are the ones that are allowing the tragedies in the world to
continue and only we are the ones that can do something about it.
So Dan, what exactly are you talking about?
Give specifics, issues. Are you talking about Iraq or East L.A.?
About Miami's Liberty City or the jungles of Angola? The sun burned tarmac
of Ethopia, or outsourcing to India?
About burning rampages in France or about seeing people's heads cut off over
Al Jezeera? Or are you just trying to convince us to vote against Bush look
alikes the next time around?
You seem to think that people think like you do without telling how you
think.
Are you liberal, trying to promote secular rationality over our environment?
Or are you conservative trying to hold onto what goodness is left from ages
gone by?
Are you feminist? Gay activist? Theocratic? Feel guns are needed for
protection, or think they are evil?
Who are your heros? Plato? Socrates? Hugo Chavez? George Washington? Is
Christopher Columbus friend or foe? Do you think we should recede the USA
southwest back to Mexico? Do you think America is a bastion of freedom and
good will, or is it harbringer of decadence and exploitation?
Are you ready to freeze in the winter, give up your auto, perhaps your job,
for reason of saving that environment and getting off oil? Or do you
support looking for new sources that we might get by until applicable
technology, which may or may not be found, can provide us with a softer
transition to new energy?
You give heartfelt thoughts about nothing. The devil is always in the
details and the world is not the simple place you seem to imply. Every
choice we make there is a trade off. Exactly what crimes against humanity
do you speak to? Whose side are you on, The Taliban or the US Military?
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| User: "AlanS" |
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| Title: Re: Humanity's fate is not carved in stone |
13 Oct 2006 08:13:24 PM |
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On 13 Oct 2006 11:50:22 -0700, "Dan" <dan.dean@dsscompany.com> wrote:
Where is the turning point in life? When does it start? At what point
Dan, talk is cheap, posting is even cheaper. Half the people at some
period in their lives (when they still think they alone have all the
answers) have had similar thoughts. With maturity comes some
understanding about why things are the way they are.
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| User: "Dan" |
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| Title: Re: Humanity's fate is not carved in stone |
16 Oct 2006 03:01:38 PM |
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AlanS wrote:
On 13 Oct 2006 11:50:22 -0700, "Dan" <dan.dean@dsscompany.com> wrote:
Where is the turning point in life? When does it start? At what point
Dan, talk is cheap, posting is even cheaper. Half the people at some
period in their lives (when they still think they alone have all the
answers) have had similar thoughts. With maturity comes some
understanding about why things are the way they are.
Perhaps if half the people worked for the peace that they desired, then
perhaps so many of us wouldn't be so pessimistic about our future.
Thinking negative and bitter about our human condition is easy, that
why so many of us do it. I'm trying to get that half of humanity to
believe in their heart again, to believe in that peace so many of us
have wished for in the past and I will not give up until we achieve it.
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| User: "Brian Fletcher" |
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| Title: Re: Humanity's fate is not carved in stone |
16 Oct 2006 06:28:59 PM |
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"Dan" <dan.dean@dsscompany.com> wrote in message
news:1161028898.187443.184080@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
AlanS wrote:
On 13 Oct 2006 11:50:22 -0700, "Dan" <dan.dean@dsscompany.com> wrote:
Where is the turning point in life? When does it start? At what point
Dan, talk is cheap, posting is even cheaper. Half the people at some
period in their lives (when they still think they alone have all the
answers) have had similar thoughts. With maturity comes some
understanding about why things are the way they are.
Perhaps if half the people worked for the peace that they desired, then
perhaps so many of us wouldn't be so pessimistic about our future.
Thinking negative and bitter about our human condition is easy, that
why so many of us do it. I'm trying to get that half of humanity to
believe in their heart again, to believe in that peace so many of us
have wished for in the past and I will not give up until we achieve it.
Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
BOfL
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| User: "Mistery" |
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| Title: Re: Humanity's fate is not carved in stone |
14 Oct 2006 01:41:55 AM |
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AlanS wrote:
On 13 Oct 2006 11:50:22 -0700, "Dan" <dan.dean@dsscompany.com> wrote:
Where is the turning point in life? When does it start? At what point
Dan, talk is cheap, posting is even cheaper. Half the people at some
period in their lives (when they still think they alone have all the
answers) have had similar thoughts. With maturity comes some
understanding about why things are the way they are.
Should I even bother posting with such a good reply!
Sorry for making myself even cheaper.
I don't quite agree with Alan because you can say Talk is cheap, what
about Socrates.
As for posting, what about you?
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| User: "AlanS" |
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| Title: Re: Humanity's fate is not carved in stone |
14 Oct 2006 05:43:41 AM |
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On 13 Oct 2006 23:41:55 -0700, "Mistery" <pand@orange.fr> wrote:
AlanS wrote:
On 13 Oct 2006 11:50:22 -0700, "Dan" <dan.dean@dsscompany.com> wrote:
Where is the turning point in life? When does it start? At what point
Dan, talk is cheap, posting is even cheaper. Half the people at some
period in their lives (when they still think they alone have all the
answers) have had similar thoughts. With maturity comes some
understanding about why things are the way they are.
I don't quite agree with Alan because you can say Talk is cheap, what
about Socrates.
He is a smart fellow, but what counts is that he was able to use that
on the field and turn it to action. Truely was one of the greats of
the game and much fun to watch.
As for posting, what about you?
I'm cheap.
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| User: "Anie News" |
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| Title: Re: Humanity's fate is not carved in stone |
15 Oct 2006 09:39:18 AM |
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About the "I am cheap"
Arn't we all?
All us can't really take credit for what we are, we owe it all to
humanity and our peers.
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| User: "Anie News" |
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| Title: Re: Humanity's fate is not carved in stone |
15 Oct 2006 09:39:19 AM |
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About the "I am cheap"
Arn't we all?
All us can't really take credit for what we are, we owe it all to
humanity and our peers.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Humanity's fate is not carved in stone |
17 Oct 2006 06:19:02 AM |
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Anie News wrote:
About the "I am cheap"
Arn't we all?
All us can't really take credit for what we are, we owe it all to
humanity and our peers.
What a lod of tosh. Who you are depends firmly on you and nobody else.
There is of course genetic predetermination, and upbringing. But
ultimatly every choice presented to you throughout your life, it is you
that has to say yes or no.
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| User: "Anie News" |
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| Title: Re: Humanity's fate is not carved in stone |
17 Oct 2006 05:19:00 PM |
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wrote:
Anie News wrote:
About the "I am cheap"
Arn't we all?
All us can't really take credit for what we are, we owe it all to
humanity and our peers.
"What a lod of tosh."
Lod? tosh? you are probably referring to a load of "fumeries".
"Who you are depends firmly on you and nobody else."
If who I was dependended firmly on me and nobody else, I wouldn't know
who I am, what I am. I wouldn't even be posting to you. I wouldn't know
how to read or write.
You must be an exception to humanity, growing in a bubble alone without
contact with any civilisation. And yet you manage to turn the computer
you built on, type on the keyboard you built with the alphabet you
created and yet we still manage to communicate.
" There is of course genetic predetermination, and upbringing. "
Which comes from peers and humanity.
Nobody would have invented the car if someone hadn't discovered the
wheel at first.
"But ultimatly every choice presented to you throughout your life, it
is you that has to say yes or no."
Yes, no, don't mind, depends, yes and no...
I am not in agreement with you but maybe you are not in agreement with
me for "All us can't really take credit for what we are" which has
mistakes in it illustrating the fact that yes I am cheap nuts or
whatever which I fully admit. I talk on behalf of several people "All
of us" but I post on my own.
I didn't define what I meant by "all of us", I didn't define the
reality with "really" and the post was just intended to show that yes I
feel cheap, small... and was showing agreement to Alan's statement.
If you are not cheap and have a Superego , it is good for you.
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| User: "Anie News" |
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| Title: Re: Humanity's fate is not carved in stone |
17 Oct 2006 05:19:06 PM |
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wrote:
Anie News wrote:
About the "I am cheap"
Arn't we all?
All us can't really take credit for what we are, we owe it all to
humanity and our peers.
"What a lod of tosh."
Lod? tosh? you are probably referring to a load of "fumeries".
"Who you are depends firmly on you and nobody else."
If who I was dependended firmly on me and nobody else, I wouldn't know
who I am, what I am. I wouldn't even be posting to you. I wouldn't know
how to read or write.
You must be an exception to humanity, growing in a bubble alone without
contact with any civilisation. And yet you manage to turn the computer
you built on, type on the keyboard you built with the alphabet you
created and yet we still manage to communicate.
" There is of course genetic predetermination, and upbringing. "
Which comes from peers and humanity.
Nobody would have invented the car if someone hadn't discovered the
wheel at first.
"But ultimatly every choice presented to you throughout your life, it
is you that has to say yes or no."
Yes, no, don't mind, depends, yes and no...
I am not in agreement with you but maybe you are not in agreement with
me for "All us can't really take credit for what we are" which has
mistakes in it illustrating the fact that yes I am cheap nuts or
whatever which I fully admit. I talk on behalf of several people "All
of us" but I post on my own.
I didn't define what I meant by "all of us", I didn't define the
reality with "really" and the post was just intended to show that yes I
feel cheap, small... and was showing agreement to Alan's statement.
If you are not cheap and have a Superego , it is good for you.
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