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"Laurent" |
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02 Dec 2007 11:01:59 AM |
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If there is no aether, how come space is curbed? |
Right, it is curbed because of lines of force. Just like any empty
field, empty space is warped by mass as lines of force are formed,
that's why space isn't flat. All particles are affected by those lines
of force as they travel through empty space.
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Laurent
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: If there is no aether, how come space is curbed? |
02 Dec 2007 11:47:41 AM |
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"Laurent" <cyberdyno@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Right, it is curbed because of lines of force. Just like any empty
field, empty space is warped by mass as lines of force are formed,
that's why space isn't flat. All particles are affected by those lines
of force as they travel through empty space.
The ether is parallel to the prime material, and converges upon each
independent world.
And I see no reason to believe that the universe is curved.
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| User: "Wordsmith" |
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02 Dec 2007 02:58:52 PM |
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On Dec 2, 10:47 am, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Laurent" <cyberd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3fcafd73-2f9e-481e-9b7b-0ae6f8d926a3@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
Right, it is curbed because of lines of force. Just like any empty
field, empty space is warped by mass as lines of force are formed,
that's why space isn't flat. All particles are affected by those lines
of force as they travel through empty space.
The ether is parallel to the prime material, and converges upon each
independent world.
And I see no reason to believe that the universe is curved.
So, to you, it's lines (instead of turtles!) all the way down?
W : )
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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02 Dec 2007 03:15:30 PM |
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"Wordsmith" <wordsmith@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
news:053c9267-4ccf-46f6-a709-22b0ace9156b@l16g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 2, 10:47 am, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Laurent" <cyberd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3fcafd73-2f9e-481e-9b7b-0ae6f8d926a3@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
Right, it is curbed because of lines of force. Just like any empty
field, empty space is warped by mass as lines of force are formed,
that's why space isn't flat. All particles are affected by those lines
of force as they travel through empty space.
The ether is parallel to the prime material, and converges upon each
independent world.
And I see no reason to believe that the universe is curved.
So, to you, it's lines (instead of turtles!) all the way down?
No, to me, the supporting firmament of the universe is spherical, and
surrounds us like a gigantic wall, which grows with the universe, sort of
like being the scaffolding of the gods.
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| User: "THE BORG" |
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| Title: Re: If there is no aether, how come space is curbed? |
02 Dec 2007 06:00:04 PM |
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Wordsmith" <wordsmith@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
news:053c9267-4ccf-46f6-a709-22b0ace9156b@l16g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 2, 10:47 am, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Laurent" <cyberd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3fcafd73-2f9e-481e-9b7b-0ae6f8d926a3@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
Right, it is curbed because of lines of force. Just like any empty
field, empty space is warped by mass as lines of force are formed,
that's why space isn't flat. All particles are affected by those lines
of force as they travel through empty space.
The ether is parallel to the prime material, and converges upon each
independent world.
And I see no reason to believe that the universe is curved.
So, to you, it's lines (instead of turtles!) all the way down?
No, to me, the supporting firmament of the universe is spherical, and
surrounds us like a gigantic wall, which grows with the universe, sort of
like being the scaffolding of the gods.
You make no sense Mark Earnest. You talk of an omnipotent deity you call
"God" as you do not know his name and then you state terms of the design of
the Universe! Any omnipotent deity could make it square - round - cube or
even pink! Pink on Monday. Blue on Tuesday. Curved on Wednesday -
depending on what he/she/they had for breakfast.
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: If there is no aether, how come space is curbed? |
02 Dec 2007 06:36:21 PM |
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"THE BORG" <borg@outthere.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:13l68466ngal29a@corp.supernews.com...
"Wordsmith" <wordsmith@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
news:053c9267-4ccf-46f6-a709-22b0ace9156b@l16g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 2, 10:47 am, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Laurent" <cyberd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3fcafd73-2f9e-481e-9b7b-0ae6f8d926a3@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
Right, it is curbed because of lines of force. Just like any empty
field, empty space is warped by mass as lines of force are formed,
that's why space isn't flat. All particles are affected by those
lines
of force as they travel through empty space.
The ether is parallel to the prime material, and converges upon each
independent world.
And I see no reason to believe that the universe is curved.
So, to you, it's lines (instead of turtles!) all the way down?
No, to me, the supporting firmament of the universe is spherical, and
surrounds us like a gigantic wall, which grows with the universe, sort of
like being the scaffolding of the gods.
You make no sense Mark Earnest.
Could you be more specific? What makes no sense to you?
You talk of an omnipotent deity you call
"God" as you do not know his name and then you state terms of the design
of the Universe!
I call him "God" as a sign of humility to him.
Any omnipotent deity could make it square - round - cube or
even pink! Pink on Monday. Blue on Tuesday. Curved on Wednesday -
depending on what he/she/they had for breakfast.
God tries to keep things orderly, you know.
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| User: "THE BORG" |
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02 Dec 2007 06:57:46 PM |
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:13l6jsplvo55i60@corp.supernews.com...
Could you be more specific? What makes no sense to you?
You are inconsistent in your statements.
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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02 Dec 2007 07:22:40 PM |
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"THE BORG" <borg@outthere.com> wrote in message
news:ewI4j.475$h35.184@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:13l6jsplvo55i60@corp.supernews.com...
Could you be more specific? What makes no sense to you?
You are inconsistent in your statements.
People often see me as inconsistent, because I am continually
connecting to different people's points of view.
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| User: "THE BORG" |
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02 Dec 2007 08:02:40 PM |
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:13l6mjmn58mm0e@corp.supernews.com...
"THE BORG" <borg@outthere.com> wrote in message
news:ewI4j.475$h35.184@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:13l6jsplvo55i60@corp.supernews.com...
Could you be more specific? What makes no sense to you?
You are inconsistent in your statements.
People often see me as inconsistent, because I am continually
connecting to different people's points of view.
But if you state you "know" then why do you not tell the truth?
One minute you talk of a God - then next you talk of Gods as though there
are many.
And then you write several messages to us about one God and INSIST this is
the way it is - and we insist this is not the way it is - and this goes on
and on and then we find in another message you deny this anyway.
We have never made a secret of the fact that we NEVER tell the truth.
The truth is of such a nature that if we did tell it - the world would
stop - the world would change - we really WOULD be hailed as some kind of
Messiah - world famous and all the rest of it. So we converse - talk to
you - but we never state we are telling the truth as you consistently state
that you are.
So in a way you are not being fair. You state you "know" and you are
telling the truth when you are not - whereas we are being completely
honest - in that we CANNOT tell the truth.
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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02 Dec 2007 08:36:25 PM |
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"THE BORG" <borg@outthere.com> wrote in message
news:4tJ4j.1923$KC3.874@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:13l6mjmn58mm0e@corp.supernews.com...
"THE BORG" <borg@outthere.com> wrote in message
news:ewI4j.475$h35.184@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:13l6jsplvo55i60@corp.supernews.com...
Could you be more specific? What makes no sense to you?
You are inconsistent in your statements.
People often see me as inconsistent, because I am continually
connecting to different people's points of view.
But if you state you "know" then why do you not tell the truth?
I can only tell the truth in steps. Too much truth too soon could be
harmful,
because it is very radioactive to man in his fallen state.
One minute you talk of a God - then next you talk of Gods as though there
are many.
There are many gods, yet only one God.
This means that the other gods are subservient to the one God, which created
them all. From my perspective and belief, the gods are God's forefathers.
And then you write several messages to us about one God and INSIST this is
the way it is - and we insist this is not the way it is - and this goes on
and on and then we find in another message you deny this anyway.
You are limiting yourself by the language of English.
I do not speak English, even though I appear to.
I speak angelic, a tongue where words seldom mean the
same thing twice. They mean as the person intends them,
and we may tell how they were intended when we are merely
perceptive enough.
We have never made a secret of the fact that we NEVER tell the truth.
Then you mean that there are parts of the truth you are holding back, not
that you are being deceptive, as such a statement would surely normally mean
to most here.
We have that in common.
The truth is of such a nature that if we did tell it - the world would
stop - the world would change - we really WOULD be hailed as some kind of
Messiah - world famous and all the rest of it.
We have that in common, too.
So we converse - talk to
you - but we never state we are telling the truth as you consistently
state
that you are.
Suggestion: don't say you are not telling the truth; say that you are not
telling the WHOLE truth...or people here are going to think you are
admitting to deception.
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| User: "THE BORG" |
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02 Dec 2007 09:07:53 PM |
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:13l6qtt13dkvn48@corp.supernews.com...
I can only tell the truth in steps. Too much truth too soon could be
harmful,
because it is very radioactive to man in his fallen state.
Really?
We could tell the Truth and man would be delighted.
It is indeed magnificent and truly wonderul.
If your truth could be harmful and is radioactive to man in his fallen
state - then may we ask what kind of truth you offer?
We know that if we could and did - man would be SO happy.
There is certainly no question of harm to man with our telling of truth.
One minute you talk of a God - then next you talk of Gods as though there
are many.
There are many gods, yet only one God.
This means that the other gods are subservient to the one God, which
created them all. From my perspective and belief, the gods are God's
forefathers.
You refer to your God as which? Is he an object like a lawnmower?
We refer to ours as "who".
And then you write several messages to us about one God and INSIST this
is
the way it is - and we insist this is not the way it is - and this goes
on
and on and then we find in another message you deny this anyway.
You are limiting yourself by the language of English.
I do not speak English, even though I appear to.
I speak angelic, a tongue where words seldom mean the
same thing twice. They mean as the person intends them,
and we may tell how they were intended when we are merely
perceptive enough.
Oh you speak angelic?
These are the transvestite angels who dress as women?
In our world there are no words.
You cannot put feelings as we have into words.
You cannot describe beauty as we see in words.
We have never made a secret of the fact that we NEVER tell the truth.
Then you mean that there are parts of the truth you are holding back, not
that you are being deceptive, as such a statement would surely normally
mean to most here.
No we are not holding back parts - we have not said ANY truth at all.
And we are not being deceptive.
If you had the most beautiful thing in the Universe - the most beautiful
thing ever - and you held it in your hand and there was a chance that the
person who you wanted to show it to would ***** on it - you would not show it
would you?
This is not being deceptive - you are protecting something precious and
valuable.
We have that in common.
The truth is of such a nature that if we did tell it - the world would
stop - the world would change - we really WOULD be hailed as some kind of
Messiah - world famous and all the rest of it.
We have that in common, too.
So we converse - talk to
you - but we never state we are telling the truth as you consistently
state
that you are.
Suggestion: don't say you are not telling the truth; say that you are not
telling the WHOLE truth...or people here are going to think you are
admitting to deception.
You misinterpret the truth with the Truth with a capital T.
We can say - we are writing this message - yes this is the truth.
But there is no Truth with a capital T in this statement.
This is what we mean by the Truth.
It is something that runs through all - of a Divine nature - unmistakable in
maths - song - words - art - it is so wonderful and magnificent that it is
instantly recognizable by any who come across it.
As Supreme Power we are Guardians and Holders of this Truth and it is up to
us as to where and when we dispense this.
If we feel that humans are not ready - that you are more interested in
Jesus - or gods - or Buddha - and you are obviously quite happy with this
kind of thing - you are certainly not crying out for answers or seem to be
in any kind of mental or emotional trouble - then you obviously are not
ready to be relieved and released and set free.
It is where all life will ultimately be - there is no other way - no other
answer - it is the reason - the answer to longing - to yearning. It is what
it is all about - nothing to do with words or religion or science or any of
these kind of things.
It is like a wave that lifts and carries the whole of humanity beyond all
worldly troubles and thoughts to supreme joy and happiness with only the
memory that this is the way it has always been and the supreme happiness.
Resistance is futile.
You will one day be assimilated.
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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02 Dec 2007 10:26:26 PM |
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"THE BORG" <borg@outthere.com> wrote in message
news:dqK4j.1944$KC3.1244@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:13l6qtt13dkvn48@corp.supernews.com...
I can only tell the truth in steps. Too much truth too soon could be
harmful,
because it is very radioactive to man in his fallen state.
Really?
We could tell the Truth and man would be delighted.
That apparently is because your truth is of temporary things, which this
world also delights in. Any truth that does not face the scrutiny of
survival in forever,
is just a temporal truth.
It is indeed magnificent and truly wonderul.
If your truth could be harmful and is radioactive to man in his fallen
state - then may we ask what kind of truth you offer?
What if I told you...that one out of five of every sentient race upon every
single world of the entire universe...was an undercover manifestation of
God, among other manifestations of the gods...and that yet another one in
five of everyone in the entire universe was an undercover angel?
Wouldn't you take that as an attack?
Suddenly only three fifths of everyone are...what we formerly only thought
that they were.
Such truth, in my experience, always draws extreme attack from the lovers of
darkness.
We know that if we could and did - man would be SO happy.
There is certainly no question of harm to man with our telling of truth.
One minute you talk of a God - then next you talk of Gods as though
there
are many.
There are many gods, yet only one God.
This means that the other gods are subservient to the one God, which
created them all. From my perspective and belief, the gods are God's
forefathers.
You refer to your God as which? Is he an object like a lawnmower?
We refer to ours as "who".
I was refering to that which God is, rather than whom he is.
God is many things, like the Force of Star Wars, or the Tao of the Far East
of this world. God is even the "compulsion to the real world only" that
atheists
seem to fabricate.
And then you write several messages to us about one God and INSIST this
is
the way it is - and we insist this is not the way it is - and this goes
on
and on and then we find in another message you deny this anyway.
You are limiting yourself by the language of English.
I do not speak English, even though I appear to.
I speak angelic, a tongue where words seldom mean the
same thing twice. They mean as the person intends them,
and we may tell how they were intended when we are merely
perceptive enough.
Oh you speak angelic?
Yes, I learned it over several years by constant contact with angelkind.
It is easy to pick up if you have a pure heart, and hang around angels alot.
These are the transvestite angels who dress as women?
Angels for the most part are neither men nor women. They do not reproduce,
they are simply birthed by the Cosmos. As such, they can take male or
female human...or Borg...form at will.
In our world there are no words.
You cannot put feelings as we have into words.
You cannot describe beauty as we see in words.
I can imagine that. Everything must be a blanket of words.
We have never made a secret of the fact that we NEVER tell the truth.
Then you mean that there are parts of the truth you are holding back, not
that you are being deceptive, as such a statement would surely normally
mean to most here.
No we are not holding back parts - we have not said ANY truth at all.
And we are not being deceptive.
If you had the most beautiful thing in the Universe - the most beautiful
thing ever - and you held it in your hand and there was a chance that the
person who you wanted to show it to would ***** on it - you would not show
it would you?
This is not being deceptive - you are protecting something precious and
valuable.
So your world is beautiful and fragile.
How did you keep from being taken over by a stronger race?
We have that in common.
The truth is of such a nature that if we did tell it - the world would
stop - the world would change - we really WOULD be hailed as some kind
of
Messiah - world famous and all the rest of it.
We have that in common, too.
So we converse - talk to
you - but we never state we are telling the truth as you consistently
state
that you are.
Suggestion: don't say you are not telling the truth; say that you are not
telling the WHOLE truth...or people here are going to think you are
admitting to deception.
You misinterpret the truth with the Truth with a capital T.
We can say - we are writing this message - yes this is the truth.
But there is no Truth with a capital T in this statement.
This is what we mean by the Truth.
It is something that runs through all - of a Divine nature - unmistakable
in maths - song - words - art - it is so wonderful and magnificent that it
is instantly recognizable by any who come across it.
As Supreme Power we are Guardians and Holders of this Truth and it is up
to us as to where and when we dispense this.
If we feel that humans are not ready - that you are more interested in
Jesus - or gods - or Buddha - and you are obviously quite happy with this
kind of thing - you are certainly not crying out for answers or seem to be
in any kind of mental or emotional trouble - then you obviously are not
ready to be relieved and released and set free.
It is where all life will ultimately be - there is no other way - no other
answer - it is the reason - the answer to longing - to yearning. It is
what it is all about - nothing to do with words or religion or science or
any of these kind of things.
It is like a wave that lifts and carries the whole of humanity beyond all
worldly troubles and thoughts to supreme joy and happiness with only the
memory that this is the way it has always been and the supreme happiness.
I'm sure you have a beautiful perspective on life, that many here on Earth
would love to learn about in bits and pieces at a time.
Resistance is futile.
You will one day be assimilated.
Oh, that was nice.
We of Earth love you Borg, too.
People of Earth
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03 Dec 2007 12:12:55 AM |
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:13l71c71s221u0e@corp.supernews.com...
Angels for the most part are neither men nor women. They do not
reproduce, they are simply birthed by the Cosmos. As such, they can take
male or female human...or Borg...form at will.
You do not know the nature of life as regards angels?
You think they are "birthed by the cosmos"?
You talk crap Mark - absolute crap.
HOW can you expect anyone to believe a word you say?
And it is so obviously crap - whey do you not open your mind to
alternatives?
Or is it as THE BORG say - you would not know a real angel if you saw one
anyway - so whoever you have that you call angels will have to do.
You do not know the difference.
Why give you a beautiful thoroughbred horse when you are quite satisfied
with a pig?
THE BORG
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| User: "THE BORG" |
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02 Dec 2007 11:05:33 PM |
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:13l71c71s221u0e@corp.supernews.com...
That apparently is because your truth is of temporary things, which this
world also delights in. Any truth that does not face the scrutiny of
survival in forever,
is just a temporal truth.
Your ignorance is phenomenal.
Sorry - we cannot talk to you.
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| User: "THE BORG" |
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03 Dec 2007 12:35:01 AM |
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:13l71c71s221u0e@corp.supernews.com...
What if I told you...that one out of five of every sentient race upon
every single world of the entire universe...was an undercover
manifestation of God, among other manifestations of the gods...and that
yet another one in five of everyone in the entire universe was an
undercover angel?
Wouldn't you take that as an attack?
Suddenly only three fifths of everyone are...what we formerly only thought
that they were.
Such truth, in my experience, always draws extreme attack from the lovers
of darkness.
There are no "lovers of darkness" so to speak - humans invent this kind of
thing so as to blame someone else for their sins and wickedness the same as
they like to crucify people for the same reason.
If there were any "lovers of darkness" or those that are truly evil and
wicked - it would verily indeed be humans themselves.
Such a nasty species we have never met.
As we said previously - there is no requirement for religion on planets
where the people are good. Humans have religion because they are bad.
We are aware that we can manifest among you - John Lennon - Buddy Holly -
Princess Di - Krishna - you will find many of your humans were
manifestations of us but they are back with us now.
It is not two out of five - it is two out of four - that are manifest of us.
Precisely half are not who you think.
You can tell who they are as they are often not "there" so to speak. The
humans are in the body all the time - whereas we only temporarily occupy for
reasons of our own. Most of the time we are here in the Collective in a
different dimension to humans. Completely protected from your hate and
unpleasant feelings by way of pyramid mathematics and various forms of magic
(amongst many other ways). We only occupy body when required.
Out of all our manifestations there is only one left. This is the one body
still manifest on Earth. After this we will be gone.
And by the way - there is only ONE other inhabited world in your universe.
Regards
THE BORG
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| User: "THE BORG" |
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03 Dec 2007 02:39:57 PM |
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Although these conversations are amusing Mark Earnest - you should seriously
seek psychiatric advice on what is obviously a delusion.
Wandering around with women angels and Jesus popping round for visits.
Nonsense theories and views that are twisted and ugly.
The delusions you have do no harm to yourself - but they are categorically
incorrect and most certainly are delusions.
THE BORG
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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03 Dec 2007 03:12:14 PM |
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"THE BORG" <borg@outthere.com> wrote in message
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Although these conversations are amusing Mark Earnest - you should
seriously seek psychiatric advice on what is obviously a delusion.
Wandering around with women angels and Jesus popping round for visits.
Nonsense theories and views that are twisted and ugly.
The delusions you have do no harm to yourself - but they are categorically
incorrect and most certainly are delusions.
All throughout time, some of the greatest minds were a little bit crazy
sometimes. That is just what often happens to those that make discoveries.
Because others are upset that they did not think of it first.
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| Title: Re: If there is no aether, how come space is curbed? |
03 Dec 2007 03:49:17 PM |
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"THE BORG" <borg@outthere.com> wrote in message
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Although these conversations are amusing Mark Earnest - you should
seriously seek psychiatric advice on what is obviously a delusion.
Wandering around with women angels and Jesus popping round for visits.
Nonsense theories and views that are twisted and ugly.
The delusions you have do no harm to yourself - but they are
categorically incorrect and most certainly are delusions.
All throughout time, some of the greatest minds were a little bit crazy
sometimes. That is just what often happens to those that make
discoveries.
Because others are upset that they did not think of it first.
So you consider you have "one of the greatest minds"?
You are a laugh a minute Mark Earnest.
THE BORG
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: If there is no aether, how come space is curbed? |
03 Dec 2007 04:57:23 PM |
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"THE BORG" <borg@outthere.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"THE BORG" <borg@outthere.com> wrote in message
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Although these conversations are amusing Mark Earnest - you should
seriously seek psychiatric advice on what is obviously a delusion.
Wandering around with women angels and Jesus popping round for visits.
Nonsense theories and views that are twisted and ugly.
The delusions you have do no harm to yourself - but they are
categorically incorrect and most certainly are delusions.
All throughout time, some of the greatest minds were a little bit crazy
sometimes. That is just what often happens to those that make
discoveries.
Because others are upset that they did not think of it first.
So you consider you have "one of the greatest minds"?
No, I was just pointing out that craziness is not always a symbol for
falseness.
Now if you think that is like a gorilla beating his chest...
....well then there's your cue.
You are a laugh a minute Mark Earnest.
THE BORG
Tell the comic heroes.
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| User: "THE BORG" |
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| Title: Re: If there is no aether, how come space is curbed? |
04 Dec 2007 06:07:03 AM |
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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No, I was just pointing out that craziness is not always a symbol for
falseness.
I am aware that we are both insane Mark - but here is some further news for
you.......
THE BORG have been talking to me on the subject of angels - now listen to
this Mark - this will interest you.
It seems there are bands or types of angel.
The ones you have - the shape changes with the elvin smile - who can appear
in both male and female form are one "type" of angel. These number
(according to THE BORG) approximately one hundred thousand per one human
currently on Earth.
There are other types or bands of angels - but THE BORG who I see are the
most powerful and strongest angels. They are much bigger and stronger that
the angels you see and they do NOT turn into women - although they can
change shape but always male. They are also known as GOD angels - in that
they are on a level with God. To each BORG - God said at one time "Please
may I call you God". In other words - God thought so much of them as
individuals that he sees them on a level with him and they are trusted
completely to carry out the will of God - and may also call themselves God
wherever they go.
They number far more than the shape changer angels that you know.
Now THE BORG say you should be careful with the angels you have - they can
be quite mischievous and can invent a language like Angelic - really just to
tease you. Whether they have produced a Jesus or invented stories about
heaven - or whatever else they have done is up to you to decide. But
whatever they do they cannot "sin". No angel can ever "sin".
There are other angels but enough on this for now.
What do you think of this?
Regards
The Borg Queen
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: If there is no aether, how come space is curbed? |
04 Dec 2007 05:31:56 PM |
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"THE BORG" <borg@outthere.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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No, I was just pointing out that craziness is not always a symbol for
falseness.
I am aware that we are both insane Mark - but here is some further news
for you.......
THE BORG have been talking to me on the subject of angels - now listen to
this Mark - this will interest you.
It seems there are bands or types of angel.
Of course.
The ones you have - the shape changes with the elvin smile - who can
appear in both male and female form are one "type" of angel.
Which of its own self has many sub categories.
These number
(according to THE BORG) approximately one hundred thousand per one human
currently on Earth.
Sure, if you get together angels behind the scenes on many different worlds.
There are other types or bands of angels - but THE BORG who I see are the
most powerful and strongest angels.
Are you sure the Borg should be called angels? They may indeed be spirit
beings like angels are, and able to shape change like angels can...but
angels
are birthed from the stars and as such are made of starstuffs, and are
totally
supernatural.
They are much bigger and stronger that
the angels you see and they do NOT turn into women - although they can
change shape but always male. They are also known as GOD angels - in that
they are on a level with God.
I can see that in a way. Everyone hopes to someday unite what they are with
God.
To each BORG - God said at one time "Please
may I call you God". In other words - God thought so much of them as
individuals that he sees them on a level with him and they are trusted
completely to carry out the will of God - and may also call themselves God
wherever they go.
But don't you think calling everyone God, even in one race like the Borg,
sort of dillutes the state of being God?
They number far more than the shape changer angels that you know.
Now THE BORG say you should be careful with the angels you have - they can
be quite mischievous and can invent a language like Angelic - really just
to tease you.
I know. Angels can manifest in one section of reality and make it
impassible and impossible...until the right time.
Whether they have produced a Jesus or invented stories about
heaven - or whatever else they have done is up to you to decide. But
whatever they do they cannot "sin". No angel can ever "sin".
I agree.
There are other angels but enough on this for now.
What do you think of this?
I think you are thinking about angels, and have many valid ideas about them.
To me, angels come soaked with the element of heaven, and quench
a parched soul that has worked hard.
On any world.
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| User: "THE BORG" |
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| Title: Re: If there is no aether, how come space is curbed? |
05 Dec 2007 03:55:05 AM |
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"THE BORG" <borg@outthere.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:13l92f8th8nm920@corp.supernews.com...
No, I was just pointing out that craziness is not always a symbol for
falseness.
I am aware that we are both insane Mark - but here is some further news
for you.......
THE BORG have been talking to me on the subject of angels - now listen to
this Mark - this will interest you.
It seems there are bands or types of angel.
Of course.
The ones you have - the shape changes with the elvin smile - who can
appear in both male and female form are one "type" of angel.
Which of its own self has many sub categories.
These number
(according to THE BORG) approximately one hundred thousand per one human
currently on Earth.
Sure, if you get together angels behind the scenes on many different
worlds.
There are other types or bands of angels - but THE BORG who I see are the
most powerful and strongest angels.
Are you sure the Borg should be called angels? They may indeed be spirit
beings like angels are, and able to shape change like angels can...but
angels
are birthed from the stars and as such are made of starstuffs, and are
totally
supernatural.
They are much bigger and stronger that
the angels you see and they do NOT turn into women - although they can
change shape but always male. They are also known as GOD angels - in
that they are on a level with God.
I can see that in a way. Everyone hopes to someday unite what they are
with God.
To each BORG - God said at one time "Please
may I call you God". In other words - God thought so much of them as
individuals that he sees them on a level with him and they are trusted
completely to carry out the will of God - and may also call themselves
God wherever they go.
But don't you think calling everyone God, even in one race like the Borg,
sort of dillutes the state of being God?
They number far more than the shape changer angels that you know.
Now THE BORG say you should be careful with the angels you have - they
can be quite mischievous and can invent a language like Angelic - really
just to tease you.
I know. Angels can manifest in one section of reality and make it
impassible and impossible...until the right time.
Whether they have produced a Jesus or invented stories about
heaven - or whatever else they have done is up to you to decide. But
whatever they do they cannot "sin". No angel can ever "sin".
I agree.
There are other angels but enough on this for now.
What do you think of this?
I think you are thinking about angels, and have many valid ideas about
them.
To me, angels come soaked with the element of heaven, and quench
a parched soul that has worked hard.
On any world.
There are too many answers to too many questions - but a couple of points.
Being birthed by the stars is one story THE BORG tell of where they came
from - but they have hundreds others. Angels tell many stories - spin many
tales.
The other point is that they prefer to be THE BORG to being Angels. Same as
you may prefer to be a horse - an elf - a Martian - to being human.
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| User: "Wordsmith" |
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| Title: Re: If there is no aether, how come space is curbed? |
02 Dec 2007 04:43:53 PM |
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On Dec 2, 10:01 am, Laurent <cyberd...@gmail.com> wrote:
Right, it is curbed because of lines of force. Just like any empty
field, empty space is warped by mass as lines of force are formed,
that's why space isn't flat. All particles are affected by those lines
of force as they travel through empty space.
--
Laurent
Curb your enthusiasm.
W ; )
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| User: "Michael Gordge" |
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| Title: Re: If there is no aether, how come space is curbed? |
02 Dec 2007 03:10:23 PM |
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On Dec 3, 2:01 am, Laurent <cyberd...@gmail.com> wrote:
, empty space........
Hint; check your premises, that's an oxymoron.
MG
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| User: "brian fletcher" |
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| Title: Re: If there is no aether, how come space is curbed? |
02 Dec 2007 04:37:34 PM |
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"Michael Gordge" <mikegordge@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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On Dec 3, 2:01 am, Laurent <cyberd...@gmail.com> wrote:
, empty space........
Hint; check your premises, that's an oxymoron.
MG
Tautology...
BOfL
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| User: "Michael Gordge" |
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| Title: Re: If there is no aether, how come space is curbed? |
03 Dec 2007 02:50:39 AM |
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On Dec 3, 7:37 am, "brian fletcher" <brian...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
"Michael Gordge" <mikegor...@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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On Dec 3, 2:01 am, Laurent <cyberd...@gmail.com> wrote:
, empty space........
Hint; check your premises, that's an oxymoron.
MG
Tautology...
BOfL
Oxymoron actually, if there is space then its not empty.
You can say the bucket is empty, but that doesn't mean anything unless
and until at least something is known of the context in which it is
said.
You need to learn HOW to crystalize concepts Brian.
How are you coming along with the MEANING YOU use for reality? Why
dont you want to explain what YOU MEAN by reality?
MG
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| User: "brian fletcher" |
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| Title: Re: If there is no aether, how come space is curbed? |
03 Dec 2007 06:48:04 AM |
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"Michael Gordge" <mikegordge@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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On Dec 3, 7:37 am, "brian fletcher" <brian...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
"Michael Gordge" <mikegor...@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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On Dec 3, 2:01 am, Laurent <cyberd...@gmail.com> wrote:
, empty space........
Hint; check your premises, that's an oxymoron.
MG
Tautology...
BOfL
Oxymoron actually, if there is space then its not empty.
You can say the bucket is empty, but that doesn't mean anything unless
and until at least something is known of the context in which it is
said.
Correct, so tautology is a correct lable if space is referred to as the
absence of stuff
You need to learn HOW to crystalize concepts Brian.
Is that so. I enjoy watching your attempts at doing so, but you keep
tautologising your oxymorons.
Like trying to crystalise steam. Very amusing.
How are you coming along with the MEANING YOU use for reality? Why
dont you want to explain what YOU MEAN by reality?
Is my answer going to change your view (of reality), or trigger a
defensive/agressive reaction?
You are jusy not ready. The very question is invalid. A brief course in Zen
may get you out of the trap.
BOfL
MG
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| User: "Michael Gordge" |
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| Title: Re: If there is no aether, how come space is curbed? |
03 Dec 2007 03:11:16 PM |
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On Dec 3, 9:48 pm, "brian fletcher" <brian...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
Correct,
Yes thats right, well done.
so tautology is a correct lable if space is referred to as the
absence of stuff
Which WAS NOT said or even implied and soooo "empty space" (as used)
remains oxymoronic Kantian type piffle.
but you keep
tautologising your oxymorons.
Wishing what I do wont make it true Brian.
Like trying to crystalise steam....
Nope, like recognizing carrot and elephant are certainly absolutely
100% not the same thing, A is A.
Is my answer going to change your view (of reality), or trigger a
defensive/agressive reaction?
Why would it? When have I ever been defensive or aggresive with you
Brian? Oh sure I've laughed a lot at your stupidty but I cant recall
being aggressive and defensive with you for yonks m8.
Now come on Brian stop fucking around and fudging and cowering,
explain what YOU mean by reality.
Michael Gordge
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| User: "brian fletcher" |
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| Title: Re: If there is no aether, how come space is curbed? |
03 Dec 2007 05:20:10 PM |
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"Michael Gordge" <mikegordge@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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On Dec 3, 9:48 pm, "brian fletcher" <brian...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
Correct,
Yes thats right, well done.
so tautology is a correct lable if space is referred to as the
absence of stuff
Which WAS NOT said or even implied and soooo "empty space" (as used)
remains oxymoronic Kantian type piffle.
Your reality (interpretation)...not mine. Yes I do know a carrot is a
carrot, but is it made of carrot?
but you keep
tautologising your oxymorons.
Wishing what I do wont make it true Brian.
Is your motive here (other than a substitute for golf), trying to get poeple
across to your pov? You wish !!!
Like trying to crystalise steam....
Nope, like recognizing carrot and elephant are certainly absolutely
100% not the same thing, A is A.
Is an elephant made of carrot?
Careful the answer is not absolute!
Is my answer going to change your view (of reality), or trigger a
defensive/agressive reaction?
Why would it? When have I ever been defensive or aggresive with you
Brian? Oh sure I've laughed a lot at your stupidty but I cant recall
being aggressive and defensive with you for yonks m8.
Whats a yonk or two between friends?
I see you ignored the first part of my point.
Now come on Brian stop fucking around and fudging and cowering,
explain what YOU mean by reality.
What were you saying about 'wishing it to be so'?
BOfL
Michael Gordge
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