tooly wrote:

<mikegordge@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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tooly wrote:

Like all world order before us, it comes only by the sword.

Fact, mankind world-wide progressed more in the first 180 years of
white-man settlement of the US than he had at any time in the previous
6,000 years, why?

Because the sword was rejected as the means to an end and individual
freedom, man's liberty, was embraced as the end in itself.

It is no accident that mobcorcay today is being used as an end in
itself, rather than as a *means to an end*.

The utimate end is the individual human's freedom, his liberty, any
action which contradicts that end will destroy that end in itself.

Destruction of any kind requires contradiction.


MG

I'm glad you brought this up. Liberty might be seen as a 'winning'
element
along man's social evolution. In other words, after a certain amount of
'banging heads', it is this model that seems to be what is being chosen.
But to understand why even 'liberty' comes via the sword, perhaps we need
to
go back through time and understand the very idea of human freedom,
perhaps
just starting with Charlemagne's time, under any government has been a
hard
fought struggle to say the least. But just take the USA as perhaps a
more
recent event along this historic struggle, a nation which prides
'liberty'
as a founding cornerstone. Without musket ball and a fair amount of
redcoats biting the dust, such high minded ideals would have never come
to
fruition...at least not at the moment it did.

But there is 'freedom'...and then there is 'freedom'. Should we
entertain
the anarchist? The libertarian? Whatever idea wins the hearts and minds
of
the masses, there is still the necessity of 'power' to win the right of
way
to invoke an idea. The sword today may involve much more than just
sharped
edged steel, but also encompass science and technology and the complexity
of
'psychological' warfare. How else can we explain how the western world
has
now embraced 'multiculturism' except to realize a certain 'sword of
power'
has been used through the media, education, and other forms of mass
persuasion. Some might argue this is but the people making choices
through
non-violent means, except once one understands no 'choice' has been
exercised except that of elites, who then have 'force fed' populations
with
ideas and consequences if those ideas were not 'accepted' [ergo, what we
have come to know as Political Correctness].

I agree that whatever stands against humankind's freedom will in time be
cast aside, destroyed. But, to cast aside today's poltical elitist
overseeing that perhaps shackles us like no other time in human history
behind a vague veil of supposed 'correct thinking' that imprisons true
'free
will', a sword of a much keener sharpness will need to be designed. It
will
have to be able to 'smite down' intelligence itself [as the elites carry
in
academia]. IMHO of course.

For example,
in real 'globalism' [as opposed to global brain], the question remains
if
Human Beings want to retain their national identities or not.

I'd say the global brain is the most intense globalism you're gonna
get, the earth is structured as a brain/living organism.

What's very possibly happening is the the global brain is making use of
all the structures already evolved. So in effect you have a GB which
looks just like our present day earth. Of course, it's evolving. Very
rapidly now. And any one person is dwarfed by it, seeing only their
local area.