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Date: 08 Oct 2006 06:54:48 PM
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Mind fiction: Why your brain tells tall tales
07 October 2006
NewScientist.com news service
Helen Phillips
One of the last times I saw my grandmother in her nursing home she chatted cheerfully about her son, who was away studying at
university. She spoke with complete conviction and considerable pride, despite seeming also to recognise that her only son - my
father - sitting right beside me, was not far off retirement age. The impossibility of her tale caused her no apparent distress or
confusion. Her story was lucid and complex. It was as though a perfectly plausible anecdote had been plucked from several decades
earlier and woven into the void of her recent memory.
Many older people gradually develop amnesia about recent happenings while retaining a wealth of detail from their younger days. They
may make up stories to cover their embarrassment about the blanks, and generally they know their memory is foggy. The kind of
storytelling my grandmother did after a series of strokes is a little different. Neurologists call it confabulation. It isn't
fibbing, as there is no intent to deceive and people seem to believe what they are saying. Until fairly recently it was seen simply
as a neurological deficiency - a sign of something gone wrong. Now, however, it has become apparent that healthy people confabulate
too.
Confabulation is clearly far more than a result of a deficit in our memory, says William Hirstein, a neurologist and philosopher at
Elmhurst College in Chicago and author of a book on the subject entitled Brain Fiction (MIT Press, 2005). Children and many adults
confabulate when pressed to talk about something they have no knowledge of, and people do it during and after hypnosis. This raises
doubts about the accuracy of witness testimony (see "The unreliable witness"). In fact, we may all confabulate routinely as we try
to rationalise decisions or justify opinions. Why do you love me? Why did you buy that outfit? Why did you choose that career? At
the extreme, some experts argue that we can never be sure about what is actually real and so must confabulate all the time to try to
make sense of the world around us.
Confabulation was first mentioned in the medical literature in the late 1880s, applied to patients of the Russian psychiatrist
Sergei Korsakoff. He described a distinctive type of memory deficit in people who had abused alcohol for many years. These people
had no recollection of recent events, yet filled in the blanks spontaneously with sometimes fantastical and impossible stories.
Neurologist Oliver Sacks of the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York wrote about a man with Korsakoff's syndrome in his
1985 book The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat. Mr Thompson had no memory from moment to moment about where he was or why, or to
whom he was speaking, but would invent elaborate explanations for the situations he found himself in. If someone entered the room,
he might greet them as a customer of the shop he used to own. A doctor wearing a white coat might become the local butcher. To Mr
Thompson, these fictions seemed plausible and he never seemed to notice that they kept changing. He behaved as though his improvised
world was a perfectly normal and stable place.
Also sharing this penchant for storytelling are some people who have suffered an aneurysm or rupture of the anterior communicating
artery, a blood vessel in the brain that carries blood to frontal lobe regions. These people also have profound amnesia, yet seem
unaware they have a problem and confabulate to cover the gaps. The same thing can happen in people with Alzheimer's disease and
other forms of dementia, and after parts of the brain are damaged in a stroke.
Armin Schnider, a neurologist from the Cantonal University Hospital in Geneva, Switzerland, says that the vast majority of
confabulations he has heard from his patients over the years relate directly to their earlier lives. One of his patients, a retired
dentist, worried while in hospital that he was keeping his patients waiting. Another, an elderly woman, talked regularly about her
baby in the present tense. Most of these patients had damage to the temporal lobes of the brain, particularly the memory regions of
the hippocampus, so it seemed likely that they had somehow lost the ability to make new memories and were retrieving old ones
instead. The intriguing thing was that they didn't realise these memories were old - they seemed convinced by their stories, and
sometimes even acted on them. So Schnider decided to study their memory in more detail.
He found that his patients certainly had poor recall. If asked to learn a list of words, half an hour later they would be unable to
name any of them. But was the problem to do with making new memories or accessing them later? To find out, he showed each person a
series of pictures and asked them to point out any that appeared twice. Some confabulating patients and all amnesiac
non-confabulators failed the task, unable to learn new information as the images flashed past. Often, though, even profound
confabulators could do the task well.
Reality check
The most revealing thing about the experiment emerged when Schnider repeated it an hour later with the same images presented in a
different order and with different ones repeated. The subjects were asked only to report repeats in this particular viewing,
forgetting the earlier run - again, normally a very easy task. The scores of amnesiac non-confabulators were identical to the first
session, but confabulators all performed terribly this second time around. Often they said they had seen a picture earlier in the
run, when actually it was one they had seen an hour before. So the problem for people who confabulate is not necessarily that they
can't make new memories, but that they confuse memory and present reality. "They seem unable to suppress memories irrelevant to
ongoing reality," says Schnider.
“The problem for people who confabulate is not necessarily that they can't make new memories, but that they confuse memory and
present reality”He believes that we must all have a pre-conscious brain mechanism that distinguishes between current reality and
fantasy, or a memory that is no longer relevant. "The brain decides long before the thought becomes conscious," he says. His recent
recordings using scalp electrodes show that when people see the pictures in a second run, yet correctly suppress memories irrelevant
to this test, they show a characteristic pattern of brain activity after 0.2 to 0.3 seconds, whereas it takes twice that time for
people to become consciously aware of the judgement. The decision process happens subconsciously, too early for awareness. Our brain
sorts fact from fiction well before we know our own thoughts, he concludes.
So confabulation can result from an inability to recognise whether or not memories are relevant, real and current. But that's not
the only time people make up stories, says Hirstein. He has found that those with delusions or false beliefs about their illnesses
are among the most common confabulators. He thinks these cases reveal how we build up and interpret knowledge about ourselves and
other people.
It is surprisingly common for stroke patients with paralysed limbs or even blindness to deny they have anything wrong with them,
even if only for a couple of days after the event. They often make up elaborate tales to explain away their problems. One of
Hirstein's patients, for example, had a paralysed arm, but believed it was normal, telling him that the dead arm lying in the bed
beside her was not in fact her own. When he pointed out her wedding ring, she said with horror that someone had taken it. When asked
to prove her arm was fine, by moving it, she made up an excuse about her arthritis being painful. It seems amazing that she could
believe such an impossible story. Yet when Vilayanur Ramachandran of the University of California, San Diego, offered cash to
patients with this kind of delusion, promising higher rewards for tasks they couldn't possibly do - such as clapping or changing a
light bulb - and lower rewards for tasks they could, they would always attempt the high pay-off task, as if they genuinely had no
idea they would fail.
One rare condition can make people confabulate even more elaborate tales. Capgras's syndrome sometimes affects people after a
stroke, and can leave them believing that their loved ones have been substituted by identical-looking impostors, so they make up
stories of alien abduction and conspiracy in an attempt to explain this crazy situation. In similarly strange conditions people may
lose the ability to recognise themselves in the mirror, or may even believe they or another person are dead, despite all evidence to
the contrary. In each instance, the affected person confabulates to explain the weirdness, oblivious to the absurdity.
What all these conditions have in common is an apparent discrepancy between the patient's internal knowledge or feelings and the
external information they are getting from what they see. In all these cases "confabulation is a knowledge problem", says Hirstein.
Whether it is a lost memory, emotional response or body image, if the knowledge isn't there, something fills the gap.
Helping to plug that gap may well be a part of the brain called the orbitofrontal cortex, which lies in the frontal lobes behind the
eye sockets. The OFC is best known as part of the brain's reward system, which guides us to do pleasurable things or seek what we
need, but Hirstein and Schnider suggest that the system has an even more basic role. It and other frontal brain regions are busy
monitoring all the information generated by our senses, memory and imagination, suppressing what is not needed and sorting out what
is real and relevant. According to Morten Kringelbach, a neuroscientist at the University of Oxford who studies pleasure, reward and
the role of the OFC, this tracking of ongoing reality allows us to rate everything subjectively to help us work out our priorities
and preferences.
People who confabulate may have damage to parts of the OFC itself that means it doesn't receive all the information, or perhaps
doesn't rate that information properly. Or they may have damage to connected parts of the brain, such as memory regions, which means
the OFC doesn't receive sufficient information on which to work. Either way, when the information the OFC receives is incomplete or
contradictory, it may work overtime to try and make things fit. The result could well be fiction.
Kringelbach goes even further. He suspects that confabulation is not just something people do when the system goes wrong. We may all
do it routinely. Children need little encouragement to make up stories when asked to talk about something they know little about.
Adults, too, can be persuaded to confabulate, as Timothy Wilson of the University of Virginia in Charlottesville and his colleague
Richard Nisbett have shown. They laid out a display of four identical items of clothing and asked people to pick which they thought
was the best quality. It is known that people tend to subconsciously prefer the rightmost object in a sequence if given no other
choice criteria, and sure enough about four out of five participants did favour the garment on the right. Yet when asked why they
made the choice they did, nobody gave position as a reason. It was always about the fineness of the weave, richer colour or superior
texture. This suggests that while we may make our decisions subconsciously, we rationalise them in our consciousness, and the way we
do so may be pure fiction, or confabulation.
More recent experiments by philosopher Lars Hall of Lund University in Sweden develop this idea further. People were shown pairs of
cards with pictures of faces on them and asked to choose the most attractive. Unbeknown to the subject, the person showing the cards
was a magician and routinely swapped the chosen card for the rejected one. The subject was then asked why they picked this face.
Often the swap went completely unnoticed, and the subjects came up with elaborate explanations about hair colour, the look of the
eyes or the assumed personality of the substituted face. Clearly people routinely confabulate under conditions where they cannot
know why they made a particular choice. Might confabulation be as routine in justifying our everyday choices?
Just an illusion
There is certainly plenty of evidence that much of what we do is the result of unconscious brain processing, and that our
consciousness seems to be interpreting what has happened, rather than driving it. For example, experiments in 1985 by Benjamin Libet
of the University of California in San Francisco suggested that a signal to move a finger appears in the brain several hundred
milliseconds before someone consciously decides to move that finger. The idea that we have conscious free will may be an illusion,
at least some of the time.
Even when we think we are making rational choices and decisions, this may be illusory too. The intriguing possibility is that we
simply do not have access to all of the unconscious information on which we base our decisions, so we create fictions upon which to
rationalise them, says Kringelbach. That may well be a good thing, he adds. If we were aware of how we made every choice we would
never get anything done - we cannot hold that much information in our consciousness. Wilson backs up this idea with some numbers: he
says our senses may take in more than 11 million pieces of information each second, whereas even the most liberal estimates suggest
that we are conscious of just 40 of these.
Nevertheless it is an unsettling thought that perhaps all our conscious mind ever does is dream up stories in an attempt to make
sense of our world. "The possibility is left open that in the most extreme case all of the people may confabulate all of the time,"
says Hall.
“It is an unsettling thought that perhaps all our conscious mind ever does is dream up stories in an attempt to make sense of our
world”From issue 2572 of New Scientist magazine, 07 October 2006, page 32-36
The unreliable witness
Our tendency to confabulate - to believe a fictitious story or memory - is a serious concern when it comes to trusting an
eyewitness.
How easily do our made-up stories become false memories? Maria Zaragoza of Kent State University in Ohio showed people an event on
video and then asked them leading questions. When they did not have an answer - because the information just wasn't on the tape -
she encouraged them to make one up. People are very uncomfortable doing this, she says. They say they don't know, and are just
making up an answer, but a week later, more than half of the subjects report their false statements as true events.
Another experiment reveals that children behave in the same way in a real eyewitness situation. When asked to report how a
maintenance man they had seen in a waiting room had broken something that he had not in fact touched, they said he didn't break it,
or that they didn't see. They were then asked to make something up. A week later, many of the children believed their lies and would
now willingly confabulate about the false situation. As with the adults, the effect was strongest when the questioner gave positive
feedback, telling the person that their made-up answer was correct.
Zaragoza says these findings have worrying implications for the way forensic interviews are conducted, and particularly for the
credibility of forced confessions.
Another controversial forensic technique is hypnosis. Its reliability was tested experimentally in the 1980s by psychologist Jane
Dywan of Brock University in Ontario, Canada, at a time when hypnosis was increasingly being used, with little opposition, to
"refresh" eyewitness memory. She showed people pictures and then tested their recall over the following days. After a week, she
hypnotised the same people and asked them again what they could remember. They all "recalled" more, but almost all the newly
volunteered information was wrong.
Dywan says that hypnosis increases the focus of our attention and so increases the vividness and the ease with which information
comes to mind. This may give us the sense of confident familiarity for false memories that we would normally only get with true
ones. Hypnosis seems to interfere with our ability to judge what is real and what is not. Combine this confidence with increased
recall, and you have set up a very dangerous situation, she says.
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User: "gibbs"

Title: Re: On Confabulating Stories 08 Oct 2006 07:43:03 PM
"Sir Frederick" <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
news:bp3ji2da4prnu8tcep3scusbs7pd4cudst@4ax.com...

Mind fiction: Why your brain tells tall tales

A new twist on the time worn accusation of "believing your own lies." !
.
User: "Sir Frederick"

Title: Re: On Confabulating Stories 08 Oct 2006 09:06:34 PM
On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 20:43:03 -0400, "gibbs" <gib459@fakedemailaddress.edu> wrote:


"Sir Frederick" <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
news:bp3ji2da4prnu8tcep3scusbs7pd4cudst@4ax.com...

Mind fiction: Why your brain tells tall tales


A new twist on the time worn accusation of "believing your own lies." !

A major point here is that this is what we do all the time.
Even here on AP. "Believing" is a small tip of the situation.
Go deeper and the human condition and situation is full
of deception and self deception, with "believing" built in.
I don't ask for the deception to stop, I ask that we be honest
about those functions.
.
User: "gibbs"

Title: Re: On Confabulating Stories 08 Oct 2006 09:08:07 PM
"Sir Frederick" <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
news:m8bji2detcm64u3rh0jrm59v340t8s3srt@4ax.com...

Mind fiction: Why your brain tells tall tales

A new twist on the time worn accusation of "believing your own lies." !

A major point here is that this is what we do all the time.
Even here on AP. "Believing" is a small tip of the situation.
Go deeper and the human condition and situation is full
of deception and self deception, with "believing" built in.
I don't ask for the deception to stop, I ask that we be honest
about those functions.

Agreed. I think it is enlightening when you accept that you do it just as
everyone else and that none of us are fallible.
.
User: "Brian Fletcher"

Title: Re: On Confabulating Stories 08 Oct 2006 10:06:25 PM
"gibbs" <gib459@fakedemailaddress.edu> wrote in message
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"Sir Frederick" <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
news:m8bji2detcm64u3rh0jrm59v340t8s3srt@4ax.com...

Mind fiction: Why your brain tells tall tales

A new twist on the time worn accusation of "believing your own lies." !

A major point here is that this is what we do all the time.
Even here on AP. "Believing" is a small tip of the situation.
Go deeper and the human condition and situation is full
of deception and self deception, with "believing" built in.
I don't ask for the deception to stop, I ask that we be honest
about those functions.


Agreed. I think it is enlightening when you accept that you do it just as
everyone else and that none of us are fallible.

So my statement way back about the world being full of solipsists learning
that is their deepre nature fits with Freds article?
Surely the term honesty, in this context, means simply communicating your
view as you see it?
My recent AFL experience was an extreme example.
BOfL
.

User: "Sir Frederick"

Title: Re: On Confabulating Stories 08 Oct 2006 10:07:42 PM
On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 22:08:07 -0400, "gibbs" <gib459@fakedemailaddress.edu> wrote:


"Sir Frederick" <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
news:m8bji2detcm64u3rh0jrm59v340t8s3srt@4ax.com...

Mind fiction: Why your brain tells tall tales

A new twist on the time worn accusation of "believing your own lies." !

A major point here is that this is what we do all the time.
Even here on AP. "Believing" is a small tip of the situation.
Go deeper and the human condition and situation is full
of deception and self deception, with "believing" built in.
I don't ask for the deception to stop, I ask that we be honest
about those functions.


Agreed. I think it is enlightening when you accept that you do it just as
everyone else and that none of us are fallible.

Yes. Though being "fallible" (being capable of making a mistake )is
too lite. The deception is driven by our evolved insanity,
it permeates the very fabric of our self.
Evolution did not demand honesty, but now human affairs and
management does. We must become functionally honest or
perish as a civilization.
.
User: "Brian Fletcher"

Title: Re: On Confabulating Stories 09 Oct 2006 03:31:01 AM
"Sir Frederick" <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 22:08:07 -0400, "gibbs" <gib459@fakedemailaddress.edu>
wrote:


"Sir Frederick" <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
news:m8bji2detcm64u3rh0jrm59v340t8s3srt@4ax.com...

Mind fiction: Why your brain tells tall tales

A new twist on the time worn accusation of "believing your own lies." !

A major point here is that this is what we do all the time.
Even here on AP. "Believing" is a small tip of the situation.
Go deeper and the human condition and situation is full
of deception and self deception, with "believing" built in.
I don't ask for the deception to stop, I ask that we be honest
about those functions.


Agreed. I think it is enlightening when you accept that you do it just as
everyone else and that none of us are fallible.

Yes. Though being "fallible" (being capable of making a mistake )is
too lite. The deception is driven by our evolved insanity,
it permeates the very fabric of our self.
Evolution did not demand honesty, but now human affairs and
management does. We must become functionally honest or
perish as a civilization.

You are "spot on" except you fluctuate from "true self" to civilization.
Evolved insanity, is a predictable platform from where one develops true
perceptions.
BOfL
.






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