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"Sir Frederick" |
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18 Aug 2006 02:42:54 PM |
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On Muslims |
Can a good Muslim be a good American? I sent that question to a
friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years.
The following is his reply:
Theologically - no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god
of Arabia.
Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah
except Islam (Quran, 2:256)
Scripturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of
Islam and the Quran (Koran).
Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he
turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make
friends with Christians or Jews.
Politically - no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual
leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and Destruction of
America, the great Satan.
Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry four women and
beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).
Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American
Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes
the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically - no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not
allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot
co-exist.
Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually - no. Because when we declare "one nation under God," the
Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to
as heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99
excellent names.
Therefore after much study and deliberation.... perhaps we should be
very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot
be both "good" Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish....
it's still the truth.
If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above
statements, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more
who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our
future.
Pass it on Fellow Americans. The religious war is bigger than we know
or understand.
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| User: "JethroUK©" |
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| Title: Re: On Muslims |
19 Aug 2006 05:08:10 AM |
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"Sir Frederick" <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
news:106ce29lcotgraneukae11dbhk604mpn8a@4ax.com...
Can a good Muslim be a good American?
no! - anyone who is not a muslim is deigned an infidel by the Quran and as
such a legitimate target
I sent that question to a
friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years.
The following is his reply:
Theologically - no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god
of Arabia.
Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah
except Islam (Quran, 2:256)
Scripturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of
Islam and the Quran (Koran).
Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he
turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make
friends with Christians or Jews.
Politically - no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual
leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and Destruction of
America, the great Satan.
Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry four women and
beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).
Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American
Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes
the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically - no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not
allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot
co-exist.
Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually - no. Because when we declare "one nation under God," the
Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to
as heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99
excellent names.
Therefore after much study and deliberation.... perhaps we should be
very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot
be both "good" Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish....
it's still the truth.
If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above
statements, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more
who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our
future.
Pass it on Fellow Americans. The religious war is bigger than we know
or understand.
many people have known this for a long time & it's no suprise - muslims can
not mix with others (by definition) - the answer:
any muslim should denounce their religion before mixing with others - no
'real' muslim will do this - and hence you will see the real enemy of the
state (the rest of mankind)
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| User: "Topaz" |
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| Title: Re: On Muslims |
18 Aug 2006 08:45:19 PM |
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If you support Islam you are fighting to stop homosexual perversion,
feminism, abortion, etc.
If you support Christianity you are fighting to destroy the earth,
hoping to be whisked away to another world where there is no
homosexual perversion, feminism, abortion, etc.
http://www.nationalvanguard.org http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.ihr.org/
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| User: "BernardZ" |
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| Title: Re: On Muslims |
19 Aug 2006 12:15:05 PM |
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In article <106ce29lcotgraneukae11dbhk604mpn8a@4ax.com>,
mmcneill@fuzzysys.com says...
Can a good Muslim be a good American?
I suppose it means by what you consider an American to be?
--
The people that believe that the world is flat are proof that heaps of
time, huge amounts of scientific evidence, plenty of eyewitness
accounts, numerous experts opinion and mountains of photographs are
enough to convince some people! What is particularly frustrating is
that there are many such people on the Usenet.
Observations of Bernard - No 104
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| User: "tooly" |
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| Title: Re: On Muslims |
19 Aug 2006 03:20:54 PM |
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People may not be a practicing Christian in the west, but they should
understand how their culture and thusly 'enculturation' is steeped in
Christian values. Islam is another culture with different values that does
not mesh well, if at all, with the west. There can only be conflict...and
winners and losers...and the secular crowd should understand this.
'Tolerance' is not Christian...but secular expediency for social enjoinment
as the new world intellectuals are pushing integration in all respects for a
new 'global utopia' of sorts. (really to cut the costs of labor and thusly
production...but that's another story)
Our political leaders have sold us out. Western culture is presently being
undermined at it's foundations...and as I have investigated and traced back
to the 'tangible' reason, it all digresses back to 'Civil Rights'
legislation in the 60's. In particular the Hart-Cellar Immigration act of
1965, which was sold in congress almost as an addenum to civil rights law,
might be seen as the bullet that struck the heart of the west, insuring it's
demise [in America, which it seems Europe just follows suit].
If we ever gain back control of the west, we should make a plaque of infamy
extolling the sin of that body of legislators in 1965...and mark it as
'black October' [the law passed Oct. 3, 1965). We now have over 10 million
illegals roaming this land...and already we can no longer correct things
politically for reason of a new 'popular electorate' diffused with all this
'culturally disparate immigration'...legal and illegal. It is said that the
hispanic vote will be the deciding factor in national elections for some
time to come. This WAS NOT AN HISPANIC nation or culture.
"Diversity"...that's the new catchword intellectuals and liberals use.
Diversity is allowing one's garden to be reclaimed by weeds and
wilderness...to allow civilization to be reconsumed by chaos and the jungle.
"Diversity" is watching as the boat sinks and suggesting that we should all
learn to swim.
Diversity is really code for 'anti white, anti european'...anti western
civilization. Understand that whenever you see it and have no doubts, that
IS what it means.
What is so inciduous is that even after all the terrorism, all the bombs,
9-11, all the threats, all the upset of normal life in the west, people
still bend over backwards in NOT wanting to recognize the very plain and
present face of terrorism...as being Islamic.
What's up with that anyway?
"Sir Frederick" <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
news:106ce29lcotgraneukae11dbhk604mpn8a@4ax.com...
Can a good Muslim be a good American? I sent that question to a
friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years.
The following is his reply:
Theologically - no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god
of Arabia.
Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah
except Islam (Quran, 2:256)
Scripturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of
Islam and the Quran (Koran).
Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he
turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make
friends with Christians or Jews.
Politically - no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual
leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and Destruction of
America, the great Satan.
Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry four women and
beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).
Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American
Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes
the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically - no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not
allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot
co-exist.
Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually - no. Because when we declare "one nation under God," the
Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to
as heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99
excellent names.
Therefore after much study and deliberation.... perhaps we should be
very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot
be both "good" Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish....
it's still the truth.
If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above
statements, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more
who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our
future.
Pass it on Fellow Americans. The religious war is bigger than we know
or understand.
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| User: "Chris H. Fleming" |
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| Title: Re: On Muslims |
19 Aug 2006 03:30:24 PM |
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Sir Frederick wrote:
Can a good Muslim be a good American? I sent that question to a
friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years.
The following is his reply:
Theologically - no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god
of Arabia.
The Moon symbol is a reference to the Ottoman empire. The fact that the
Ottomans were referencing a moon goddess at some point in the past is
irrelevant.
Christians worship mostly on SUNday and not the Sabbath because
Christianity came to fruition in Rome where they worshiped the Sun god
on SUNday.
Additionally the Halo that appears around Jesus and other Christian
figures is an artistic style taken from paintings of the Roman Sun god.
The Halo was like the Sun.
There is more evidence that Christians worship the Sun than Moslems
worship the Moon.
Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah
except Islam (Quran, 2:256)
Anyone who has read the Quaran would know that all people of the Book
(Jew, Christian, Moslem, ...) are accepted by Allah. Though there are
many fine points here.
Now if this was a question of can a good Moslem be a good Indian, ...
Scripturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of
Islam and the Quran (Koran).
The Bible commands people to do lot's of illegal (and immoral) stuff,
like killing witches, gays, and children who talk back to their
parents.
Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he
turns in prayer five times a day.
And I suppose good Americans turn to DC to pray?
Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make
friends with Christians or Jews.
Another lie.
Politically - no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual
leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and Destruction of
America, the great Satan.
Another lie.
Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry four women and
beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).
The first part is not exactly true and the second part is no worse than
the Bible.
Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American
Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes
the Bible to be corrupt.
Another lie.
Philosophically - no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not
allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot
co-exist.
Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Tell that to Turkey.
Spiritually - no. Because when we declare "one nation under God," the
Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to
as heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99
excellent names.
The declaration of independence is not something we declare. It is a
document of no legal weight.
And the conclusion doesn't follow from the premise.
Therefore after much study and deliberation.... perhaps we should be
very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot
be both "good" Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish....
it's still the truth.
It's a pack of lies and half-truths.
If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above
statements, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more
who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our
future.
Pass it on Fellow Americans. The religious war is bigger than we know
or understand.
If you believe this *****, please join the military, go to Iraq, and get
killed.
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