"peacefulspirits" <donnicol@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The sun does not ask "For whom am I giving light?" The sun just
gives light.

I am not to ask "To whom shall I give love?" I am just to give.


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There IS a rational sense to this when one considers 'state'. Seems my
arguments fall on deaf ears though, ha. I can't seem to get through.
Question this. Is it better to love...or to be loved?

BEing loved by another is a pre-requisite I think, a causality. But it is
not the object. The object is not someone elses state...not that one is
loved, but that like a fire that catches upon kindling, love becomes a
foundation to one's one being. ERgo...STATE. What one is after is that
capacity of LOVE as one's own state. It is far better 'to love' [and
without constraint].

Most of us 'guage' our feelings as something reactionary to the objects in
our environment. Thusly, we do NOT love our enemies, but we might love, I
dunno, a pretty girl, our parents, our country, something noble or beautiful
etc etc. We try and remain somewhat rational in our measure of how we might
love or care.

Then comes along this idea of 'love for it's own sake'. That is the
definitive idea for the Christian love IMO. But think on this...'for it's
own sake'...without 'reason'...devoided of the chain and shackles of one's
environment to define how or when to find this sublime 'state' within one's
self. Can that be done?

One still needs an object of course, a receptacle as our mind cannot exist
in a void. "God" becomes that symbolic object that defines all other
objects. To see God in all things, is to free one's self of those shackles,
whereby, one can find beauty and noble existence in ALL things. But even
then, God is still not the object in question, the pursuit. The pursuit is
one's 'state'...self...to find that measure of existence upon which the idea
of LOVE FOR IT'S OWN SAKE becomes not just a vague idea, but a reality. The
kingdom lay within.

It's not easy. It takes a bit of effort; to focus one's mind, to control
it, to wrestle with it, to manipulate it, to conjole it...but to remain
convicted to the idea. Ultimately, this struggle is what we term Believing
and having faith, as I see it anyway. If one sticks with it, and works
behaviourly to do and think good things, to 'act' the part of love
first...then 'virtue' by behavior also become virtue by 'state''...and a
spark can be rekindled, and rekindled again and again. And the fire grows
within.

Love is it's own virtue. Once accomplished, the mind sees with a clarity.
Not as one might a science, but to realize a 'more perfect state' where the
question itself melts away.

At that point, one can truely love one's enemies as well...and all things.
All objects have been 'blanked' out, superceeded by this supreme object,
definitive of all virtue found in life and existence.

But Love has no peer, and once accomplished...once one enters into this
sublime state, questions melt away as mentioned, and answsers burst forth,
not like the intellectual questions of certainty we usually seek, but an
answer that comes by way of 'state' itself. Love is the object, the answer.
But it is something much more than the word really allows to convey.

Anyway, I'll keep on trying. Someone might eventually understand where I'm
coming from. There's so much MORE I myself want to understand. The role of
suffering for example. Is it absolutely necessary? And if so, how much,
how soon? I reject my own suffering and want to rebell. The black man
taking over the white woman in this world has just been too much for me I'm
afraid, and I fall for this.

The sun is transforming its own matter into energy. It is literally
sending itself out permanently.
Our existance is not like that, it is based on giving and receiving, on
relationships. It may seem logical to choose one thing out of nature
and say I am like that and come up with a saying that makes one sound
loving. And great if that works for you. But when others do not live
up to your standards, it may be because they feel themselves a part of
more earthly dynamics.

But perhaps you don't have high standards and you really are just
describing your mode of being.
peacefulspirits wrote:

The sun does not ask "For whom am I giving light?" The sun just
gives light.

I am not to ask "To whom shall I give love?" I am just to give.


www.peacefulspirits.net