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Topic: Science > Philosophy
User: "Matt Menge"
Date: 26 Sep 2006 05:07:05 PM
Object: Quantum determinism
What exactly is quantum determinism. Standard determinism is pretty
straightforward. But I don't understand how knowing an object's
wavefunction now will with any discenible likelihood predict it's
condition a year from now. Wouldn't non-linear dynamics (chaos theory)
and scale inversion rule out such a possibility?
Best Regards,
Matt
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User: "Brian Fletcher"

Title: Re: Quantum determinism 26 Sep 2006 06:47:48 PM
"Matt Menge" <mspmenge@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1159308425.804090.90150@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...

What exactly is quantum determinism. Standard determinism is pretty
straightforward. But I don't understand how knowing an object's
wavefunction now will with any discenible likelihood predict it's
condition a year from now. Wouldn't non-linear dynamics (chaos theory)
and scale inversion rule out such a possibility?

Best Regards,

Matt

Not if you consider that all observable conditions are as a result of
quantum determinism.
The flaw in your question is relating to the knowing aspect. Most people
dont know they know.
BOfL
.

User: "Chris H. Fleming"

Title: Re: Quantum determinism 27 Sep 2006 04:43:18 AM
Matt Menge wrote:

What exactly is quantum determinism. Standard determinism is pretty
straightforward. But I don't understand how knowing an object's
wavefunction now will with any discenible likelihood predict it's
condition a year from now.

If you know the exact state of a closed system, then you can predict
everything that happens. You can know if the cat is dead or alive.

Wouldn't non-linear dynamics (chaos theory)
and scale inversion rule out such a possibility?

There is no chaos in quantum mechanics. Chaos is a purely classical
phenomena.
.
User: "Brian Fletcher"

Title: Re: Quantum determinism 27 Sep 2006 06:27:39 PM
"Chris H. Fleming" <chris_h_fleming@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1159350198.559143.301140@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

Matt Menge wrote:

What exactly is quantum determinism. Standard determinism is pretty
straightforward. But I don't understand how knowing an object's
wavefunction now will with any discenible likelihood predict it's
condition a year from now.



If you know the exact state of a closed system, then you can predict
everything that happens. You can know if the cat is dead or alive.


Wouldn't non-linear dynamics (chaos theory)
and scale inversion rule out such a possibility?



There is no chaos in quantum mechanics. Chaos is a purely classical
phenomena.

"IF".....
BOfL
.



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