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Topic: Science > Philosophy
User: "= Vox PopuliŠ"
Date: 19 Sep 2006 10:44:26 AM
Object: Re: => Ignorant Smoker Ann Richards DEAD from Esophageal Cancer <=
Robert Wagner wrote:

On 16 Sep 2006 12:48:38 -0700,

wrote:


Robert Wagner wrote:

On 16 Sep 2006 09:03:21 -0700,

wrote:

Robert Wagner wrote:

On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 22:54:30 -0400, Shawn Hirn <srhi@comcast.net>
wrote:

In article <oeakg25k5g5sq380e0qr9h8tm4u0ils7vf@4ax.com>,
Robert Wagner <robert.nospam@wagner.net> wrote:

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 17:01:16 -0600, "=> Vox PopuliŠ"
<vox@popu.li> wrote:

Over the past two decades, experts have seen a sixfold annual
increase in the
number of people diagnosed with esophageal cancer.

Cancer in the upper esophagus (the tube that connects the
mouth to the stomach),
is linked to alcohol and smoking. Richards admitted to heavy
drinking and smoking in her younger years, saying she "smoked
like a chimney and drank like a
fish."


Drinking and smoking have not increased six times in twenty
years. Scientists need to figure out what change occurred
twenty years ago to cause the increase. Pointing the finger at
drinking and smoking is a cop out.


You make a valid point. I am speculating, but what may be
happening is that people who were in their youth at a time when
smoking was common are increasingly falling victim to this kind
of cancer. Smoking is on the decline now, but when Ann Richards
was in her youth, the same cannot be said.


Smokers in their youth in the 1920s would have been as old as
Richards (72) in the 1970s. They didn't get esophageal cancer.


Not true! You make a number of rash statements
like the above, without a scintilla of proof.


The scintilla of proof was in the quoted news article: "Over the
past two decades, experts have seen a sixfold annual increase in
the number of people diagnosed with esophageal cancer."

The credited expert was Dr. Len Lichtenfeld, deputy chief medical
officer of the American Cancer Society.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=2437441&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312


That is what you should have posted in the beginning, but that does
not prove anything else you posted


Your favorite troll, Nux Vomicus, started the thread by posting the
news article .. without attribution. I was just responding to it. In
light of the FACTS from the WHO database (anything else I posted),
it's obvious the news article was alarmist propaganda with no basis
in reality.

Instead of whining like a silly child, do some
research and find out just how wrong you really are.
Then post the results to:
alt.smokers,misc.legal,us.politics so we all can see it.


The actual facts, from WHO Mortality Database, are presented here
in graphical form:
http://jjco.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/35/9/564.pdf#search=%22esophageal%20cancer%20deaths%201970%22


Yes you are definitely mixing oranges with apples
trying to justify your own stupidity. For all we know
the esophagus is the least of the organs that get
attacked by cancer cells, and since it is a slender
muscle may be difficult to treat.


Cancer researchers everywhere are searching for the root causes
of

cancers and the causative mechanics.


I dispute that. It's easier to bash smokers than do honest science,
especially when the findings might embarrass the medical
establishment or Big Pharma. For instance, it's pretty clear that
mesothelioma was caused by the SV40 virus delivered with polio
vaccine., not by exposure to asbestos. But NIH has no interest in
exploring that avenue.

So, using your typical "smoker's logic", how many people got the SV40 vaccine
and DIDN'T develope mesothelioma ?
Must be ***** science, eh smoker?
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