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Topic: Science > Philosophy
User: "George Hammond"
Date: 22 Feb 2007 05:19:14 AM
Object: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST=
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:07:43 GMT, George Hammond
<Nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote:

Printed on every US paper bill and stamped on every US
coin is the statement:

"IN GOD WE TRUST"

As far as I know, no other government in the world except
the United States prints an OFFICIAL AFFIRMATION OF GOD on
its money. This makes the United States the most
intelligent and the most responsible governement in the
world!
In the past, some have challenged this as a violation of
Church and State.... however, HAMMOND has now discovered and
published the world's first SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD (see my
webstie URL below). THEREFORE, there is no longer any
ground for the challenge, since "God" is now a proven
"scientific fact", as as such, the United States government
certainly has a right to cite this scientific fact whenever
and wherever it feels the statment is in the interest of the
citizens of the US. Incidentally, since "God" is now a
scientific fact and a matter of scientific proof, certainly
the publisc school Science curriculem has every right and
indeed an overwhelming mandate to teach the scientific
explanation of God in our public schools, right along with
scientific explanation of Evolution, IQ measurements and
birth control. After all, Science is Science and the public
has a right to know!
========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================



While the vast majority of it's population is ignorant of
God, that is, ignorant of what the phenomenon of God is; the
United States Government is not.


.

User: "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 22 Feb 2007 07:27:02 AM
On Feb 22, 11:19 am, George Hammond <Nowhe...@notspam.org> wrote:

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:07:43 GMT, George Hammond

<Nowhe...@notspam.org> wrote:

Printed on every US paper bill and stamped on every US
coin is the statement:


"IN GOD WE TRUST"

Go with throttle-up......
.
User: "George Hammond"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 22 Feb 2007 07:45:26 AM
On 22 Feb 2007 05:27:02 -0800, "Pastor Kutchie, ordained
atheist minister" <user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote:

On Feb 22, 11:19 am, George Hammond <Nowhe...@notspam.org> wrote:

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:07:43 GMT, George Hammond

<Nowhe...@notspam.org> wrote:

Printed on every US paper bill and stamped on every US
coin is the statement:


"IN GOD WE TRUST"


Go with throttle-up......

[Hammond]
Roger that Houston.... throttle 113%
climbing.....................................................
=====original target post===============
Printed on every US paper bill and stamped on every US
coin is the statement:
"IN GOD WE TRUST"
As far as I know, no other government in the world except
the United States prints an OFFICIAL AFFIRMATION OF GOD on
its money. This makes the United States the most
intelligent and the most responsible governement in the
world!
In the past, some have challenged this as a violation of
Church and State.... however, HAMMOND has now discovered and
published the world's first SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD (see my
webstie URL below). THEREFORE, there is no longer any
ground for the challenge, since "God" is now a proven
"scientific fact", as as such, the United States government
certainly has a right to cite this scientific fact whenever
and wherever it feels the statment is in the interest of the
citizens of the US. Incidentally, since "God" is now a
scientific fact and a matter of scientific proof, certainly
the publisc school Science curriculem has every right and
indeed an overwhelming mandate to teach the scientific
explanation of God in our public schools, right along with
scientific explanation of Evolution, IQ measurements and
birth control. After all, Science is Science and the public
has a right to know!
While the vast majority of it's population is ignorant of
God, that is, ignorant of what the phenomenon of God is; the
United States Government is not.
========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================
.
User: "Fred"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 22 Feb 2007 01:34:36 PM
"George Hammond" <Nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote in message
news:t97rt29ivn29pfljt8duh74qs1h27tajut@4ax.com...

On 22 Feb 2007 05:27:02 -0800, "Pastor Kutchie, ordained
atheist minister" <user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote:

On Feb 22, 11:19 am, George Hammond <Nowhe...@notspam.org> wrote:

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:07:43 GMT, George Hammond

<Nowhe...@notspam.org> wrote:

Printed on every US paper bill and stamped on every US
coin is the statement:


"IN GOD WE TRUST"


Go with throttle-up......


[Hammond]
Roger that Houston.... throttle 113%
climbing.....................................................

=====original target post===============
Printed on every US paper bill and stamped on every US
coin is the statement:

"IN GOD WE TRUST"

While the vast majority of it's population is ignorant of
God, that is, ignorant of what the phenomenon of God is; the
United States Government is not.

Your knowledge of apostrophe use is similar to your 'God knowledge'.
.
User: "George Hammond"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 22 Feb 2007 01:56:50 PM
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:34:36 +1300, "Fred"
<general@zaradise.net.uk> wrote:


"George Hammond" <Nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote in message
news:t97rt29ivn29pfljt8duh74qs1h27tajut@4ax.com...

On 22 Feb 2007 05:27:02 -0800, "Pastor Kutchie, ordained
atheist minister" <user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote:

On Feb 22, 11:19 am, George Hammond <Nowhe...@notspam.org> wrote:

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:07:43 GMT, George Hammond

<Nowhe...@notspam.org> wrote:

Printed on every US paper bill and stamped on every US
coin is the statement:


"IN GOD WE TRUST"


Go with throttle-up......


[Hammond]
Roger that Houston.... throttle 113%
climbing.....................................................

=====original target post===============
Printed on every US paper bill and stamped on every US
coin is the statement:

"IN GOD WE TRUST"



While the vast majority of it's population is ignorant of
God, that is, ignorant of what the phenomenon of God is; the
United States Government is not.


Your knowledge of apostrophe use is similar to your 'God knowledge'.

[Hammond]
You better hope so; since apostrophe useage is irrelevant
to anyone but a high school English teacher while a
Scientific Proof of God will be used by fed up working class
Catholics, frustrated white collar Evangelicals and outraged
red neck Fundamentalists to politically turn the tables on
smug pseudointellectual phoney punks like you.
========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================
.
User: "Fred"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 22 Feb 2007 02:30:41 PM
"George Hammond" <Nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote in message
news:5msrt2ddhnovk9e6q4m3qkkdlr5a5m1hjn@4ax.com...

On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:34:36 +1300, "Fred"
<general@zaradise.net.uk> wrote:


"George Hammond" <Nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote in message
news:t97rt29ivn29pfljt8duh74qs1h27tajut@4ax.com...

On 22 Feb 2007 05:27:02 -0800, "Pastor Kutchie, ordained
atheist minister" <user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote:

On Feb 22, 11:19 am, George Hammond <Nowhe...@notspam.org> wrote:

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:07:43 GMT, George Hammond

<Nowhe...@notspam.org> wrote:

Printed on every US paper bill and stamped on every US
coin is the statement:


"IN GOD WE TRUST"


Go with throttle-up......


[Hammond]
Roger that Houston.... throttle 113%
climbing.....................................................

=====original target post===============
Printed on every US paper bill and stamped on every US
coin is the statement:

"IN GOD WE TRUST"



While the vast majority of it's population is ignorant of
God, that is, ignorant of what the phenomenon of God is; the
United States Government is not.


Your knowledge of apostrophe use is similar to your 'God knowledge'.


[Hammond]
You better hope so; since apostrophe useage is irrelevant
to anyone but a high school English teacher while a
Scientific Proof of God will be used by fed up working class
Catholics, frustrated white collar Evangelicals and outraged
red neck Fundamentalists to politically turn the tables on
smug pseudointellectual phoney punks like you.

Semicolons too.
.

User: "Brian Westley"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 22 Feb 2007 02:14:51 PM
George Hammond <Nowhere1@notspam.org> writes:

On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:34:36 +1300, "Fred"
<general@zaradise.net.uk> wrote:


"George Hammond" <Nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote in message
news:t97rt29ivn29pfljt8duh74qs1h27tajut@4ax.com...

On 22 Feb 2007 05:27:02 -0800, "Pastor Kutchie, ordained
atheist minister" <user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote:

On Feb 22, 11:19 am, George Hammond <Nowhe...@notspam.org> wrote:

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:07:43 GMT, George Hammond

<Nowhe...@notspam.org> wrote:

Printed on every US paper bill and stamped on every US
coin is the statement:


"IN GOD WE TRUST"


Go with throttle-up......


[Hammond]
Roger that Houston.... throttle 113%
climbing.....................................................

=====original target post===============
Printed on every US paper bill and stamped on every US
coin is the statement:

"IN GOD WE TRUST"



While the vast majority of it's population is ignorant of
God, that is, ignorant of what the phenomenon of God is; the
United States Government is not.


Your knowledge of apostrophe use is similar to your 'God knowledge'.

[Hammond]
You better hope so; since apostrophe useage is irrelevant
to anyone but a high school English teacher while a
Scientific Proof of God will be used by fed up working class
Catholics, frustrated white collar Evangelicals and outraged
red neck Fundamentalists to politically turn the tables on
smug pseudointellectual phoney punks like you.

Shouldn't that be:
You better hope so; since apostrophe useage i's irrelevant
to anyone but a high school English teacher while a
Scientific Proof of God will be used by fed up working clas's
Catholics, frustrated white collar Evangelical's and outraged
red neck Fundamentalist's to politically turn the table's on
smug pseudointellectual phoney punk's like you.
---
Merlyn LeRoy
PS: you lost the argument as soon as you posted your ignorant screed
.

User: "JessHC"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 22 Feb 2007 03:23:52 PM
George Hammond wrote:

On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:34:36 +1300, "Fred"
<general@zaradise.net.uk> wrote:


"George Hammond" <Nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote in message
news:t97rt29ivn29pfljt8duh74qs1h27tajut@4ax.com...

On 22 Feb 2007 05:27:02 -0800, "Pastor Kutchie, ordained
atheist minister" <user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote:

On Feb 22, 11:19 am, George Hammond <Nowhe...@notspam.org> wrote:

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:07:43 GMT, George Hammond

<Nowhe...@notspam.org> wrote:

Printed on every US paper bill and stamped on every US
coin is the statement:


"IN GOD WE TRUST"


Go with throttle-up......


[Hammond]
Roger that Houston.... throttle 113%
climbing.....................................................

=====original target post===============
Printed on every US paper bill and stamped on every US
coin is the statement:

"IN GOD WE TRUST"



While the vast majority of it's population is ignorant of
God, that is, ignorant of what the phenomenon of God is; the
United States Government is not.


Your knowledge of apostrophe use is similar to your 'God knowledge'.


[Hammond]
You better hope so; since apostrophe useage is irrelevant
to anyone but a high school English teacher while a
Scientific Proof of God will be used by fed up working class
Catholics, frustrated white collar Evangelicals and outraged
red neck Fundamentalists to politically turn the tables on
smug pseudointellectual phoney punks like you.
========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================

I like how your paper claims children see the world as "bigger and
faster" because their minds are underdeveloped, which therefore proves
adults' minds are also underdeveloped. All this time I thought it was
because we start out relatively small compared to the rest of the
world, and then grow bigger. I also like how you claim psychology is
three dimensional because space is three dimensional. You jump to all
sorts of unsupported conclusions, don't you?
I Googled "The Noetic Journal Vol. 4 No. 3, July 2003" and got two
hits:
http://www.leefleming.com/neurotwitch/index.php?/weblog/category/link-a-rama/
which is summed up nicely with
"There ya go. Proof. Or so George says. I've been wrong all these
years.
The internet is wonderful."
The other is:
http://www.geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god/Hammond5s1.html.
What a surprise.
At http://www.mindspring.com/~noeticj/#part14 is a reference to "A
Semi-classical Theory of God G.E. Hammond 231"
One would think a "scientific proof of god" would get a little more
press than in one obscure woo-woo publication. Were there ever any
criticisms published?
.
User: "George Hammond"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 22 Feb 2007 04:03:59 PM
On 22 Feb 2007 13:23:52 -0800, "JessHC"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:


I like how your paper claims children see the world as "bigger and
faster" because their minds are underdeveloped, which therefore proves
adults' minds are also underdeveloped. All this time I thought it was
because we start out relatively small compared to the rest of the
world, and then grow bigger.

[Hammond]
IT IS; because:
"...we start out relatively small
compared to the rest of the
world, and then grow bigger"
and SO DOES THE BRAIN, which is why
the world looks "bigger and faster" when
you are small...... AND explains why the
world looks "awesome" to full grown adults...
because actually full grown adults are NOT FULL GROWN
but are actually 20% short of full growth, on average.
What's the problem... what part of "not full grown"
don't you understand?

I also like how you claim psychology is
three dimensional because space is three dimensional.

[Hammond]
IT IS... let me lay it out for you:
1. Space is 3-dimensional and ORTHOGONAL: X, Y and Z
2. The brain cleaves orthogonally in 3 dimensions along the
X, Y and Z axes.
3. These 3 cleavages cause the 3 (orthogonal) Psychometric
dimensions E,N,P which are the 3 dimensions of
Psychometric space.
4. QED.... real space causes psychometric space.

You jump to all
sorts of unsupported conclusions, don't you?

[Hammond]
Says who... you?
Mind posting your CV for us professor?
The conclusions are supported by degrees in theoretical
physics and peer published papers in Psychometry.... none of
which qualifications you possess.. what looks unsupported to
you doesn't look unsupported to qualified people.... such as
the one dozen PhD/professorial ranked reviewers who reviewed
my two published papers which you are reading.
<snip>

One would think a "scientific proof of god" would get a little more
press than in one obscure woo-woo publication. Were there ever any
criticisms published?

[Hammond]
No one has even seen the theory besides:
1. Half a dozen paid but disinterested reviewers for the
two peer reviewed journals involved.
2. 10,000 Usenet Stalkerazzi no-nothing amateur Usenet
hecklers whose opinions, like yours are virtually
worthless.
Think about it.... the discovery of the world's first and
only scientific proof of God is not something that has a
"precedent"... therefore.... what will happen is not
something that you can "predict" or "expect".
Yawn...
========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================
.
User: "Smiler"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 22 Feb 2007 09:06:28 PM
"George Hammond" <Nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote in message
news:ls2st21qk0v96rvl8ul2iiss3gitmrhe6d@4ax.com...

On 22 Feb 2007 13:23:52 -0800, "JessHC"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:



I like how your paper claims children see the world as "bigger and
faster" because their minds are underdeveloped, which therefore proves
adults' minds are also underdeveloped. All this time I thought it was
because we start out relatively small compared to the rest of the
world, and then grow bigger.


[Hammond]
IT IS; because:

"...we start out relatively small
compared to the rest of the
world, and then grow bigger"

and SO DOES THE BRAIN, which is why
the world looks "bigger and faster" when
you are small...... AND explains why the
world looks "awesome" to full grown adults...
because actually full grown adults are NOT FULL GROWN
but are actually 20% short of full growth, on average.
What's the problem... what part of "not full grown"
don't you understand?


I also like how you claim psychology is
three dimensional because space is three dimensional.


[Hammond]
IT IS... let me lay it out for you:

1. Space is 3-dimensional and ORTHOGONAL: X, Y and Z
2. The brain cleaves orthogonally in 3 dimensions along the
X, Y and Z axes.
3. These 3 cleavages cause the 3 (orthogonal) Psychometric
dimensions E,N,P which are the 3 dimensions of
Psychometric space.
4. QED.... real space causes psychometric space.

Ermm.
A chair is a three dimentional object.
If I took an axe to it, I could 'cleave' it in any (or all) of the three
major axes.
Is the chair 'caused' by real space?
Or is it 'caused' by the person who made it?
Smiler
.
User: "George Hammond"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 22 Feb 2007 09:40:48 PM
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 03:06:28 GMT, "Smiler"
<Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:


"George Hammond" <Nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote in message
news:ls2st21qk0v96rvl8ul2iiss3gitmrhe6d@4ax.com...

On 22 Feb 2007 13:23:52 -0800, "JessHC"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:



I like how your paper claims children see the world as "bigger and
faster" because their minds are underdeveloped, which therefore proves
adults' minds are also underdeveloped. All this time I thought it was
because we start out relatively small compared to the rest of the
world, and then grow bigger.


[Hammond]
IT IS; because:

"...we start out relatively small
compared to the rest of the
world, and then grow bigger"

and SO DOES THE BRAIN, which is why
the world looks "bigger and faster" when
you are small...... AND explains why the
world looks "awesome" to full grown adults...
because actually full grown adults are NOT FULL GROWN
but are actually 20% short of full growth, on average.
What's the problem... what part of "not full grown"
don't you understand?


I also like how you claim psychology is
three dimensional because space is three dimensional.


[Hammond]
IT IS... let me lay it out for you:

1. Space is 3-dimensional and ORTHOGONAL: X, Y and Z
2. The brain cleaves orthogonally in 3 dimensions along the
X, Y and Z axes.
3. These 3 cleavages cause the 3 (orthogonal) Psychometric
dimensions E,N,P which are the 3 dimensions of
Psychometric space.
4. QED.... real space causes psychometric space.


Ermm.
A chair is a three dimentional object.
If I took an axe to it, I could 'cleave' it in any (or all) of the three
major axes.
Is the chair 'caused' by real space?
Or is it 'caused' by the person who made it?

Smiler

[Hammond]
Well you don't seem too vicious so I won't simply tell
you to go ***** yourself.
However, you obviously have no education in physics and
are tolerably stupid and arrogant.
Anyway, there is a law of physics (mechanics) which says
that a machine designed to "span" N-dimensional space must
have N degrees of freedom which means it has to have N
dimensions of ORTHOGONAL MOVEMENT. The upshot is, that this
is WHY the human body is a 3-axis orthogonal machine. It
HAS TO BE because of the above law.
So, once Physics dictates that the human body has to be
structurally "3-axis orthogonal" (which the skeleton
obviously is) what you wind up with is the "axial
quadrature" of the entire human body... see:
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god/EMBRYO.jpg
and this is why the BRAIN is cleaved Left-right,
Dorso-Ventral, Upper-Lower see :
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god/5X7C01I.jpg
So to SUMMARIZE this argument..... space itself is "cubic"
in that the METRIC OF SPACE space is QUADRATIC, i.e. space
is described by the Pythagorean Theorem which is another way
of describing a RIGHT ANGLE:
DS^2 = DX^2 +DY^2+DZ^2 - Dt^2
this is only true if X,Y,Z and T are "orthogonal" or "at
right angles" to one another. This is why the BRAIN IS
CUBIC and the BODY IS AN AXIAL QUADRATURE and why it is that
"real space" causes "psychometry space".
========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================
.
User: "JessHC"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 23 Feb 2007 07:59:59 AM
On Feb 22, 7:40 pm, George Hammond <Nowhe...@notspam.org>
wrote:

On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 03:06:28 GMT, "Smiler"



<Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:

"George Hammond" <Nowhe...@notspam.org> wrote in message
news:ls2st21qk0v96rvl8ul2iiss3gitmrhe6d@4ax.com...

On 22 Feb 2007 13:23:52 -0800, "JessHC"
<jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:


I like how your paper claims children see the world as "bigger and
faster" because their minds are underdeveloped, which therefore proves
adults' minds are also underdeveloped. All this time I thought it was
because we start out relatively small compared to the rest of the
world, and then grow bigger.


[Hammond]
IT IS; because:


"...we start out relatively small
compared to the rest of the
world, and then grow bigger"


and SO DOES THE BRAIN, which is why
the world looks "bigger and faster" when
you are small...... AND explains why the
world looks "awesome" to full grown adults...
because actually full grown adults are NOT FULL GROWN
but are actually 20% short of full growth, on average.
What's the problem... what part of "not full grown"
don't you understand?


I also like how you claim psychology is
three dimensional because space is three dimensional.


[Hammond]
IT IS... let me lay it out for you:


1. Space is 3-dimensional and ORTHOGONAL: X, Y and Z
2. The brain cleaves orthogonally in 3 dimensions along the
X, Y and Z axes.
3. These 3 cleavages cause the 3 (orthogonal) Psychometric
dimensions E,N,P which are the 3 dimensions of
Psychometric space.
4. QED.... real space causes psychometric space.


Ermm.
A chair is a three dimentional object.
If I took an axe to it, I could 'cleave' it in any (or all) of the three
major axes.
Is the chair 'caused' by real space?
Or is it 'caused' by the person who made it?


Smiler


[Hammond]
Well you don't seem too vicious so I won't simply tell
you to go ***** yourself.
However, you obviously have no education in physics and
are tolerably stupid and arrogant.
Anyway, there is a law of physics (mechanics) which says
that a machine designed to "span" N-dimensional space must
have N degrees of freedom which means it has to have N
dimensions of ORTHOGONAL MOVEMENT. The upshot is, that this
is WHY the human body is a 3-axis orthogonal machine. It
HAS TO BE because of the above law.
So, once Physics dictates that the human body has to be
structurally "3-axis orthogonal" (which the skeleton
obviously is) what you wind up with is the "axial
quadrature" of the entire human body... see:

http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god/EMBRYO.jpg

and this is why the BRAIN is cleaved Left-right,
Dorso-Ventral, Upper-Lower see :

http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god/5X7C01I.jpg

So to SUMMARIZE this argument..... space itself is "cubic"
in that the METRIC OF SPACE space is QUADRATIC, i.e. space
is described by the Pythagorean Theorem which is another way
of describing a RIGHT ANGLE:

DS^2 = DX^2 +DY^2+DZ^2 - Dt^2

this is only true if X,Y,Z and T are "orthogonal" or "at
right angles" to one another. This is why the BRAIN IS
CUBIC and the BODY IS AN AXIAL QUADRATURE and why it is that
"real space" causes "psychometry space".

Still non sequitur.
.



User: "JessHC"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 22 Feb 2007 05:16:41 PM
George Hammond wrote:

On 22 Feb 2007 13:23:52 -0800, "JessHC"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:



I like how your paper claims children see the world as "bigger and
faster" because their minds are underdeveloped, which therefore proves
adults' minds are also underdeveloped. All this time I thought it was
because we start out relatively small compared to the rest of the
world, and then grow bigger.


[Hammond]
IT IS;

Nope. You're wrong.

because:

"...we start out relatively small
compared to the rest of the
world, and then grow bigger"

Unfortunately, the actual size of things don't change.

and SO DOES THE BRAIN,

Which has nothing whatsoever to do with the perceived relative size or
speed of anything.

which is why the world looks "bigger and faster" when you are small......

Non sequitur. The world looks "'bigger and faster' when you are
small" because of the physical size of the child; it has nothing to do
with the level of the development of the brain, and everything to do
with the fact that being small means everything else is large by
comparison.

AND explains why the world looks "awesome" to full grown adults...

Uh, no. The world looks "awesome" to full grown adults because full
grown adults recognize what a cool place the world is. It's the
adults NOT FULL GROWN who need to invent rationalizations for their
sky daddy.

because actually full grown adults are NOT FULL GROWN
but are actually 20% short of full growth, on average.

You have no support for that assertion, and unfortunately you've
contradicted yourself. Which makes sense, since that's what your
entire "theory" is based upon; contradiction and lack of objective,
verifiable evidence.

What's the problem... what part of "not full grown" don't you understand?

The part where you think relative size is somehow evidence of deities.

I also like how you claim psychology is
three dimensional because space is three dimensional.


[Hammond]
IT IS... let me lay it out for you:

Oh, please don't. You've amply demonstrated your disconnect from
reason and reality.

1. Space is 3-dimensional and ORTHOGONAL: X, Y and Z
2. The brain cleaves orthogonally in 3 dimensions along the
X, Y and Z axes.
3. These 3 cleavages cause the 3 (orthogonal) Psychometric
dimensions E,N,P which are the 3 dimensions of
Psychometric space.
4. QED.... real space causes psychometric space.

Nice jargon. Do you know what psychometry is actually supposed to be?

You jump to all sorts of unsupported conclusions, don't you?


[Hammond]
Says who... you?

Yep. Just making an observation.

Mind posting your CV for us professor?

Red herring.

The conclusions are supported by degrees in theoretical
physics and peer published papers in Psychometry....

Peer published in a Fortean Times knockoff. Great.

none of which qualifications you possess..

Argumentum ad hominem. Unsupported assertion. You have no idea what
my qualifications are, and of course my qualifications or lack thereof
don't actually affect the legitimacy of my argument anyway.

what looks unsupported to you doesn't look unsupported to qualified people....

You mean people with degrees in things like "psychometry" and "The
Quantum Theory of Consciousness"?

such as the one dozen PhD/professorial ranked reviewers who reviewed
my two published papers which you are reading.

Argumentum ad verecundiam. People who share your fuzzy thinking think
you have something to say. Maybe you could name names, but I bet not.

<snip>

One would think a "scientific proof of god" would get a little more
press than in one obscure woo-woo publication. Were there ever any
criticisms published?


[Hammond]
No one has even seen the theory besides:

1. Half a dozen paid but disinterested reviewers for the
two peer reviewed journals involved.

2. 10,000 Usenet Stalkerazzi no-nothing amateur Usenet
hecklers whose opinions, like yours are virtually worthless.

Dicto simpliciter; there's a few problems with that. First, you
didn't bother to address the point that "a scientific proof of god"
would be expected to cause at least a few ripples at some point over
the last 13 years; you merely dodged. For example, why would those
half-dozen reviewers be so apathetic about what should be the greatest
scientific breakthrough of all time? Not one person in over a decade
has tested your findings? No, that doesn't seem odd AT ALL. Second,
I asked if there'd been any published criticisms of your theory;
again, you dodged. Additionally, you try to imply that out of the
literally billions of people browsing the internet, NOT ONE is
qualified to raise any objections to your theory, or apparently even
ask you any questions. Maybe you can explain how it is that you, who
must be the most brilliant mind of our time, haven't caused more of a
splash.

Think about it.... the discovery of the world's first and
only scientific proof of God is not something that has a "precedent"...

And of course there's only one possible reason for that, right?

therefore.... what will happen is not something that you can "predict" or "expect".

Which has nothing to do with the egregious logical and procedural
errors which abound in your little paper.
.
User: "George Hammond"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 22 Feb 2007 08:52:54 PM
On 22 Feb 2007 15:16:41 -0800, "JessHC"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:


George Hammond wrote:

On 22 Feb 2007 13:23:52 -0800, "JessHC"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:



I like how your paper claims children see the world as "bigger and
faster" because their minds are underdeveloped, which therefore proves
adults' minds are also underdeveloped. All this time I thought it was
because we start out relatively small compared to the rest of the
world, and then grow bigger.


[Hammond]
IT IS;


Nope. You're wrong.

because:

"...we start out relatively small
compared to the rest of the
world, and then grow bigger"


Unfortunately, the actual size of things don't change.

Depends on how you define the size of things doesn't it
stupid.

and SO DOES THE BRAIN,


Which has nothing whatsoever to do with the perceived relative size or
speed of anything.

Wrong stupid.... if the brain is slow, the world seems fast
and vice versa. If a person is small his brain tells him
the world is big. Stupid.

which is why the world looks "bigger and faster" when you are small......


Non sequitur.

na... relevant fact

The world looks "'bigger and faster' when you are
small" because of the physical size of the child; it has nothing to do
with the level of the development of the brain,

don't be a half witted schmuck..... a younger, smaller brain
has SLOWER MENTAL SPEED and therefore the wrold looks
FASTER... you don't know what the ***** you're talking about
atheist dipshit.
snip rest..... come back and talk to me after you get a
couple of degrees in physics.... either that or learn some
manners dipshit.
========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================
.
User: "jesshc"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 23 Feb 2007 10:18:36 AM
George Hammond wrote:

On 22 Feb 2007 15:16:41 -0800, "JessHC"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:


George Hammond wrote:

On 22 Feb 2007 13:23:52 -0800, "JessHC"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:

I like how your paper claims children see the world as "bigger and
faster" because their minds are underdeveloped, which therefore proves
adults' minds are also underdeveloped. All this time I thought it was
because we start out relatively small compared to the rest of the
world, and then grow bigger.


[Hammond]
IT IS;


Nope. You're wrong.

because:

"...we start out relatively small
compared to the rest of the
world, and then grow bigger"


Unfortunately, the actual size of things don't change.


Depends on how you define the size of things doesn't it stupid.

Grow up. Defining the size of something doesn't affect the size of
that thing.

and SO DOES THE BRAIN,


Which has nothing whatsoever to do with the perceived relative size or
speed of anything.


Wrong stupid.... if the brain is slow, the world seems fast and vice versa.

Try actually addressing the point, rather than dodging and running;
please provide legitimate objective verifiable evidence for your
assertion. If the procession of events exceeds the ability of the
brain to process those events, it does not follow that the brain
perceives those events to be occurring at a different rate; it merely
means the processing ability of the brain has been exceeded.

If a person is small his brain tells him the world is big. Stupid.

Grow up. Join reality. Please provide legitimate objective
verifiable evidence for this assertion. Then provide legitimate
objective verifiable evidence that this has anything to do with the
existence of any deities. Bear in mind, your merely repeating your
assertion doesn't prove anything, no matter how much pseudo-scientific
jargon you throw in.

which is why the world looks "bigger and faster" when you are small......


Non sequitur.


na... relevant fact

Nope. It does not follow that the size of the brain has anything to
do with the perceived size of any part of reality. If you were what
you claim to be, you'd know that. Therefore, you aren't what you
claim to be. There's a surprise; someobody on usenet pretending to be
something they're not.

The world looks "'bigger and faster' when you are
small" because of the physical size of the child; it has nothing to do
with the level of the development of the brain,


don't be a half witted schmuck.....

Argumentum ad hominem. You lose.

a younger, smaller brain
has SLOWER MENTAL SPEED and therefore the wrold looks
FASTER...

You have yet to support this assertion with any objective, verifiable
evidence; ain't that just too fucking bad. Additionally, your asinine
assertion has been refuted. Repeating the assertion doesn't magically
make it true. Argumentum ad nauseam. You lose.

you don't know what the ***** you're talking about atheist dipshit.

That's funny, in that I'm not the one making references to woo-woo
unsupported illogical pseudo-scientific nonsense. Argumentum ad
nauseam. Argumentum ad hominem. You lose.

snip rest..... come back and talk to me after you get a
couple of degrees in physics.... either that or learn some manners dipshit.

Here's a better idea: learn some logic. Learn that because you
desperately wish something to be true doesn't actually make it so.
Now *****, you ignorant, ill-mannered, worthless, arrogant,
pusillanimous insect. You scabby, bleeding, infected *****. You
vomitous, pus-laced pile of rotted *****.
.
User: "George Hammond"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 23 Feb 2007 03:19:21 PM
On 23 Feb 2007 08:18:36 -0800, "jesshc"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:


George Hammond wrote:

On 22 Feb 2007 15:16:41 -0800, "JessHC"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:


George Hammond wrote:

On 22 Feb 2007 13:23:52 -0800, "JessHC"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:

I like how your paper claims children see the world as "bigger and
faster" because their minds are underdeveloped, which therefore proves
adults' minds are also underdeveloped. All this time I thought it was
because we start out relatively small compared to the rest of the
world, and then grow bigger.


[Hammond]
IT IS;


Nope. You're wrong.

because:

"...we start out relatively small
compared to the rest of the
world, and then grow bigger"


Unfortunately, the actual size of things don't change.


Depends on how you define the size of things doesn't it stupid.


[JessHC]
Grow up. Defining the size of something doesn't affect the size of
that thing.

[Hammond]
That is where you are sadly mistaken.... and THAT is why
you can't understand what God is!
PHYSICS measures the size and speed of something relative
to "the clock on the wall" and "the ruler on the desk".
HOWEVER, a physics measurement is not what people
ACTUALLY SEE.
Example: If we are in a car and the speedometer says 55
then everyone AGREES that the "physics measurement" (also
called the "objective" measurement) of our speed is 55 mph.
However, the 5 year old kid in the back seat looks out the
windowm and says "boy, we're really going fast as blazes"
while the old man drivng the car says "sheeeet kind, we're
barely crawling... cars are passing me like crazy". OK...
these are "subjective" measurements of spacetime.
And that's the whole point..... a Physics book is all about
what a "standard clock" and a "standard ruler" (or a
"standard person" would see, while the Bible is all about
what "real people" actually see... and as we just
demonstrated.... all people agree on "objective
spacetime".... but NOBODY agrees with anyone else about the
size and speed of "subjective spacetime". And so
finally.... it is this DIFFERENCE in "subjective spacetime"
between people that causes the phenomena known as "GOD".
Finally, the AMAZING DISCOVERY that Hammond has made, is
that the difference in "subjective spacetime" between people
is described as a "curvature" of subjective spacetime where
the amount of curvature is proportional to the individual
person's brain growth. We note that a 9 year old has a 50%
brain growth, because people stop growing at age 18.
Yawn... talking to amateurs certainly is time consuming...
wherer are all the fuckin geniuses?
========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================

and SO DOES THE BRAIN,


Which has nothing whatsoever to do with the perceived relative size or
speed of anything.


Wrong stupid.... if the brain is slow, the world seems fast and vice versa.


Try actually addressing the point, rather than dodging and running;
please provide legitimate objective verifiable evidence for your
assertion. If the procession of events exceeds the ability of the
brain to process those events, it does not follow that the brain
perceives those events to be occurring at a different rate; it merely
means the processing ability of the brain has been exceeded.

If a person is small his brain tells him the world is big. Stupid.


Grow up. Join reality. Please provide legitimate objective
verifiable evidence for this assertion. Then provide legitimate
objective verifiable evidence that this has anything to do with the
existence of any deities. Bear in mind, your merely repeating your
assertion doesn't prove anything, no matter how much pseudo-scientific
jargon you throw in.

which is why the world looks "bigger and faster" when you are small......


Non sequitur.


na... relevant fact


Nope. It does not follow that the size of the brain has anything to
do with the perceived size of any part of reality. If you were what
you claim to be, you'd know that. Therefore, you aren't what you
claim to be. There's a surprise; someobody on usenet pretending to be
something they're not.

The world looks "'bigger and faster' when you are
small" because of the physical size of the child; it has nothing to do
with the level of the development of the brain,


don't be a half witted schmuck.....


Argumentum ad hominem. You lose.

a younger, smaller brain
has SLOWER MENTAL SPEED and therefore the wrold looks
FASTER...


You have yet to support this assertion with any objective, verifiable
evidence; ain't that just too fucking bad. Additionally, your asinine
assertion has been refuted. Repeating the assertion doesn't magically
make it true. Argumentum ad nauseam. You lose.

you don't know what the ***** you're talking about atheist dipshit.


That's funny, in that I'm not the one making references to woo-woo
unsupported illogical pseudo-scientific nonsense. Argumentum ad
nauseam. Argumentum ad hominem. You lose.

snip rest..... come back and talk to me after you get a
couple of degrees in physics.... either that or learn some manners dipshit.


Here's a better idea: learn some logic. Learn that because you
desperately wish something to be true doesn't actually make it so.
Now *****, you ignorant, ill-mannered, worthless, arrogant,
pusillanimous insect. You scabby, bleeding, infected *****. You
vomitous, pus-laced pile of rotted *****.

.
User: "jesshc"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 23 Feb 2007 05:25:10 PM
George Hammond wrote:

On 23 Feb 2007 08:18:36 -0800, "jesshc"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:


George Hammond wrote:

On 22 Feb 2007 15:16:41 -0800, "JessHC"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:


George Hammond wrote:

On 22 Feb 2007 13:23:52 -0800, "JessHC"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:

I like how your paper claims children see the world as "bigger and
faster" because their minds are underdeveloped, which therefore proves
adults' minds are also underdeveloped. All this time I thought it was
because we start out relatively small compared to the rest of the
world, and then grow bigger.


[Hammond]
IT IS;


Nope. You're wrong.

because:

"...we start out relatively small
compared to the rest of the
world, and then grow bigger"


Unfortunately, the actual size of things don't change.


Depends on how you define the size of things doesn't it stupid.



[JessHC]
Grow up. Defining the size of something doesn't affect the size of
that thing.


[Hammond]
That is where you are sadly mistaken.... and THAT is why
you can't understand what God is!

Oh, I know what "god" is.

PHYSICS measures the size and speed of something relative
to "the clock on the wall" and "the ruler on the desk".
HOWEVER, a physics measurement is not what people
ACTUALLY SEE.

Oh, of course not. People live in an entirely different dimension
from physics. That's why there's ghosts and esp.

Example: If we are in a car and the speedometer says 55
then everyone AGREES that the "physics measurement" (also
called the "objective" measurement) of our speed is 55 mph.
However, the 5 year old kid in the back seat looks out the
windowm and says "boy, we're really going fast as blazes"
while the old man drivng the car says "sheeeet kind, we're
barely crawling... cars are passing me like crazy". OK...
these are "subjective" measurements of spacetime.
And that's the whole point..... a Physics book is all about
what a "standard clock" and a "standard ruler" (or a
"standard person" would see, while the Bible is all about
what "real people" actually see... and as we just
demonstrated.... all people agree on "objective
spacetime".... but NOBODY agrees with anyone else about the
size and speed of "subjective spacetime". And so
finally.... it is this DIFFERENCE in "subjective spacetime"
between people that causes the phenomena known as "GOD".

See, that's what's called an "unsupported assertion." You make a lot
of those.

Finally, the AMAZING DISCOVERY that Hammond has made, is
that the difference in "subjective spacetime" between people
is described as a "curvature" of subjective spacetime where
the amount of curvature is proportional to the individual
person's brain growth.

Where'd you learn science, the X-Files?

We note that a 9 year old has a 50%
brain growth, because people stop growing at age 18.
Yawn... talking to amateurs certainly is time consuming...
wherer are all the fuckin geniuses?

It's funny you ask that, while being unable to address what is
actually said. Your response has nothing to do with my point; you
merely wandered off on an unrelated, unsupported, nonsensical
tangent. I expected nothing less. At least you're consistent, but
why are you adding groups? To better the troll?

and SO DOES THE BRAIN,


Which has nothing whatsoever to do with the perceived relative size or
speed of anything.


Wrong stupid.... if the brain is slow, the world seems fast and vice versa.


Try actually addressing the point, rather than dodging and running;
please provide legitimate objective verifiable evidence for your
assertion. If the procession of events exceeds the ability of the
brain to process those events, it does not follow that the brain
perceives those events to be occurring at a different rate; it merely
means the processing ability of the brain has been exceeded.

If a person is small his brain tells him the world is big. Stupid.


Grow up. Join reality. Please provide legitimate objective
verifiable evidence for this assertion. Then provide legitimate
objective verifiable evidence that this has anything to do with the
existence of any deities. Bear in mind, your merely repeating your
assertion doesn't prove anything, no matter how much pseudo-scientific
jargon you throw in.

which is why the world looks "bigger and faster" when you are small......


Non sequitur.


na... relevant fact


Nope. It does not follow that the size of the brain has anything to
do with the perceived size of any part of reality. If you were what
you claim to be, you'd know that. Therefore, you aren't what you
claim to be. There's a surprise; someobody on usenet pretending to be
something they're not.

The world looks "'bigger and faster' when you are
small" because of the physical size of the child; it has nothing to do
with the level of the development of the brain,


don't be a half witted schmuck.....


Argumentum ad hominem. You lose.

a younger, smaller brain
has SLOWER MENTAL SPEED and therefore the wrold looks
FASTER...


You have yet to support this assertion with any objective, verifiable
evidence; ain't that just too fucking bad. Additionally, your asinine
assertion has been refuted. Repeating the assertion doesn't magically
make it true. Argumentum ad nauseam. You lose.

you don't know what the ***** you're talking about atheist dipshit.


That's funny, in that I'm not the one making references to woo-woo
unsupported illogical pseudo-scientific nonsense. Argumentum ad
nauseam. Argumentum ad hominem. You lose.

snip rest..... come back and talk to me after you get a
couple of degrees in physics.... either that or learn some manners dipshit.


Here's a better idea: learn some logic. Learn that because you
desperately wish something to be true doesn't actually make it so.
Now *****, you ignorant, ill-mannered, worthless, arrogant,
pusillanimous insect. You scabby, bleeding, infected *****. You
vomitous, pus-laced pile of rotted *****.

.
User: "Otto Bahn"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 23 Feb 2007 07:26:57 PM
"jesshc" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote

I like how your paper claims children see the world as "bigger and
faster" because their minds are underdeveloped, which therefore proves
adults' minds are also underdeveloped. All this time I thought it was
because we start out relatively small compared to the rest of the
world, and then grow bigger.


[Hammond]
IT IS;


Nope. You're wrong.

because:

"...we start out relatively small
compared to the rest of the
world, and then grow bigger"


Unfortunately, the actual size of things don't change.


Depends on how you define the size of things doesn't it stupid.



[JessHC]
Grow up. Defining the size of something doesn't affect the size of
that thing.


[Hammond]
That is where you are sadly mistaken.... and THAT is why
you can't understand what God is!


Oh, I know what "god" is.

PHYSICS measures the size and speed of something relative
to "the clock on the wall" and "the ruler on the desk".
HOWEVER, a physics measurement is not what people
ACTUALLY SEE.


Oh, of course not. People live in an entirely different dimension
from physics. That's why there's ghosts and esp.

Example: If we are in a car and the speedometer says 55
then everyone AGREES that the "physics measurement" (also
called the "objective" measurement) of our speed is 55 mph.
However, the 5 year old kid in the back seat looks out the
windowm and says "boy, we're really going fast as blazes"
while the old man drivng the car says "sheeeet kind, we're
barely crawling... cars are passing me like crazy". OK...
these are "subjective" measurements of spacetime.
And that's the whole point..... a Physics book is all about
what a "standard clock" and a "standard ruler" (or a
"standard person" would see, while the Bible is all about
what "real people" actually see... and as we just
demonstrated.... all people agree on "objective
spacetime".... but NOBODY agrees with anyone else about the
size and speed of "subjective spacetime". And so
finally.... it is this DIFFERENCE in "subjective spacetime"
between people that causes the phenomena known as "GOD".


See, that's what's called an "unsupported assertion." You make a lot
of those.

Finally, the AMAZING DISCOVERY that Hammond has made, is
that the difference in "subjective spacetime" between people
is described as a "curvature" of subjective spacetime where
the amount of curvature is proportional to the individual
person's brain growth.


Where'd you learn science, the X-Files?

We note that a 9 year old has a 50%
brain growth, because people stop growing at age 18.
Yawn... talking to amateurs certainly is time consuming...
wherer are all the fuckin geniuses?


It's funny you ask that, while being unable to address what is
actually said. Your response has nothing to do with my point; you
merely wandered off on an unrelated, unsupported, nonsensical
tangent. I expected nothing less.

Well, at least you aren't insane. If you expected something
different, I'd recommend getting help.

At least you're consistent, but
why are you adding groups? To better the troll?

I'll give you three guesses and none of them count.
--oTTo--
.










User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 22 Feb 2007 08:08:31 AM
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:45:26 -0600, George Hammond wrote
(in article <t97rt29ivn29pfljt8duh74qs1h27tajut@4ax.com>):

Subject: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST=
From: George Hammond <Nowhere1@notspam.org>
Date: 2/22/07 7:45 AM
Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity, alt.philosophy, alt.atheism,
uk.philosophy.atheism, alt.religion.kibology

On 22 Feb 2007 05:27:02 -0800, "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister"
<user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote:

On Feb 22, 11:19 am, George Hammond <Nowhe...@notspam.org> wrote:

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:07:43 GMT, George Hammond

<Nowhe...@notspam.org> wrote:

Printed on every US paper bill and stamped on every US
coin is the statement:


"IN GOD WE TRUST"


Go with throttle-up......


[Hammond] Roger that Houston.... throttle 113%
climbing.....................................................

=====original target post===============
Printed on every US paper bill and stamped on every US coin is the
statement:

"IN GOD WE TRUST"

And that it's on the money tells you something about who this "god" really
is...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
.
User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 22 Feb 2007 10:47:53 AM
In article <0001HW.C202FFFF004D7537B019F94F@news.giganews.com> Mark K. Bilbo <gmail@com.mkbilbo> writes:

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:45:26 -0600, George Hammond wrote
(in article <t97rt29ivn29pfljt8duh74qs1h27tajut@4ax.com>):

Subject: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST=
From: George Hammond <Nowhere1@notspam.org>
Date: 2/22/07 7:45 AM
Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity, alt.philosophy, alt.atheism,
uk.philosophy.atheism, alt.religion.kibology

On 22 Feb 2007 05:27:02 -0800, "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister"
<user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote:

On Feb 22, 11:19 am, George Hammond <Nowhe...@notspam.org> wrote:

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:07:43 GMT, George Hammond

<Nowhe...@notspam.org> wrote:

Printed on every US paper bill and stamped on every US
coin is the statement:


"IN GOD WE TRUST"


Go with throttle-up......


[Hammond] Roger that Houston.... throttle 113%
climbing.....................................................

=====original target post===============
Printed on every US paper bill and stamped on every US coin is the
statement:

"IN GOD WE TRUST"



And that it's on the money tells you something about who this "god" really
is...

Given Jesus' attitude towards wealth, I always found putting
"In God We Trust" on filthy lucre as pretty much the epitome
of peoples' ability to utterly miss the point. Sort of
like those magnificent Cambodian temples erected to a man
who taught us not to worship any man or god.
-- cary
.

User: "Hatter"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 22 Feb 2007 10:59:32 AM
On Feb 22, 9:08 am, Mark K. Bilbo <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:45:26 -0600, George Hammond wrote
(in article <t97rt29ivn29pfljt8duh74qs1h27ta...@4ax.com>):





Subject: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST=
From: George Hammond <Nowhe...@notspam.org>
Date: 2/22/07 7:45 AM
Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity, alt.philosophy, alt.atheism,
uk.philosophy.atheism, alt.religion.kibology


On 22 Feb 2007 05:27:02 -0800, "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister"
<use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:


On Feb 22, 11:19 am, George Hammond <Nowhe...@notspam.org> wrote:

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:07:43 GMT, George Hammond


<Nowhe...@notspam.org> wrote:

Printed on every US paper bill and stamped on every US
coin is the statement:


"IN GOD WE TRUST"


Go with throttle-up......


[Hammond] Roger that Houston.... throttle 113%
climbing.....................................................


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Printed on every US paper bill and stamped on every US coin is the
statement:


"IN GOD WE TRUST"


And that it's on the money tells you something about who this "god" really
is...

--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
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Holy Masturbation, did you see the "Proof of God" website? I didn't
get a half a page in without falling over logical errors left out in
the middle of the page where anyone could trip over them.
Hatter
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User: "Bill Dunkenfield"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 22 Feb 2007 03:40:17 PM

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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Holy Masturbation, did you see the "Proof of God" website? I didn't
get a half a page in without falling over logical errors left out in
the middle of the page where anyone could trip over them.

Hatter

Also, all UK coins have the phrase "by the grace of god" or D.G. in
Latin. It refers to the belief that the sovereign rules by the grace of
god.
This was rejected by the US Declaration of Independence and
Constitution.
The phrase "in god we trust" was first added to US coins during the
Civil War by a couple of religious zealots.
http://www.atheists.org/public.square/coins.html
What they did violates the US Constitution's first amendment. It is
still unconstitutional today.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
Can't be any simpler than that.
JAM
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User: "George Hammond"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 22 Feb 2007 04:21:29 PM
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:40:17 -0500, Bill Dunkenfield
<BillDunkenfield@nospam.net> wrote:


------------------------------------------------------------
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Holy Masturbation, did you see the "Proof of God" website? I didn't
get a half a page in without falling over logical errors left out in
the middle of the page where anyone could trip over them.

Hatter


Also, all UK coins have the phrase "by the grace of god" or D.G. in
Latin.

[Hammond]
Hey... thanks for the information...... glad to hear that
England too is a decent and reliable God fearing country;
besides the US.

It refers to the belief that the sovereign rules by the grace of
god.

[Hammond]
The soverign, be it the King or the President certainly
DOES "rule by the grace of God".... in so far as (ideally)
the soverign has the lowest "growth deficit" and therefore
the most fully grown brain, the best vision and greatest
intelligence in the nation... according to Hammond's
scientific proof of God.


This was rejected by the US Declaration of Independence and
Constitution.

[Hammond]
Well.... "In God We Trust" is on every American dollar,
nickel and penny.

The phrase "in god we trust" was first added to US coins during the
Civil War by a couple of religious zealots.

http://www.atheists.org/public.square/coins.html

What they did violates the US Constitution's first amendment. It is
still unconstitutional today.

[Hammond]
De Facto it is now NOT unconstitutional since a
scientific proof of God has in fact been discovered
(Hammond, 2003) therefore "belief in God" is no longer a
"religious belief" it is a "scientific fact"... belief in
which is NOT prohibited by the constitution.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

[Hammond]
"Belief in God" is no longer a "religious belief" it is a
proven scientific fact.
It can't get any simpler than that!

Can't be any simpler than that.

JAM

GEO
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http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
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http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
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User: "JessHC"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 22 Feb 2007 05:20:21 PM
George Hammond wrote:

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:40:17 -0500, Bill Dunkenfield
<BillDunkenfield@nospam.net> wrote:


------------------------------------------------------------
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Holy Masturbation, did you see the "Proof of God" website? I didn't
get a half a page in without falling over logical errors left out in
the middle of the page where anyone could trip over them.

Hatter


Also, all UK coins have the phrase "by the grace of god" or D.G. in
Latin.


[Hammond]
Hey... thanks for the information...... glad to hear that
England too is a decent and reliable God fearing country;
besides the US.

It refers to the belief that the sovereign rules by the grace of
god.


[Hammond]
The soverign, be it the King or the President certainly
DOES "rule by the grace of God".... in so far as (ideally)
the soverign has the lowest "growth deficit" and therefore
the most fully grown brain, the best vision and greatest
intelligence in the nation... according to Hammond's
scientific proof of God.


This was rejected by the US Declaration of Independence and
Constitution.


[Hammond]
Well.... "In God We Trust" is on every American dollar,
nickel and penny.



The phrase "in god we trust" was first added to US coins during the
Civil War by a couple of religious zealots.

http://www.atheists.org/public.square/coins.html

What they did violates the US Constitution's first amendment. It is
still unconstitutional today.


[Hammond]
De Facto it is now NOT unconstitutional since a
scientific proof of God has in fact been discovered
(Hammond, 2003) therefore "belief in God" is no longer a
"religious belief" it is a "scientific fact"... belief in
which is NOT prohibited by the constitution.




"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof"


[Hammond]
"Belief in God" is no longer a "religious belief" it is a
proven scientific fact.

It can't get any simpler than that!

Argumentum ad nauseam doesn't make it true.
.

User: "Phineas T Puddleduck"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 22 Feb 2007 04:26:42 PM
In article <105st2hpdb66ep6qf73md1pr5do56auiqo@4ax.com>,
George Hammond <Nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote:

[Hammond]
The soverign, be it the King or the President certainly
DOES "rule by the grace of God".... in so far as (ideally)
the soverign has the lowest "growth deficit" and therefore
the most fully grown brain, the best vision and greatest
intelligence in the nation... according to Hammond's
scientific proof of God.

You don't get out much, do you?
--
<-Coffee Boy-> = Preferably white, with two sugars
Saucerheads - denying the blatantly obvious since 2000.
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User: "George Hammond"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 22 Feb 2007 04:39:49 PM
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:26:42 +0000, Phineas T Puddleduck
<phineaspuddleduck@googlemail.com> wrote:

In article <105st2hpdb66ep6qf73md1pr5do56auiqo@4ax.com>,
George Hammond <Nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote:

[Hammond]
The soverign, be it the King or the President certainly
DOES "rule by the grace of God".... in so far as (ideally)
the soverign has the lowest "growth deficit" and therefore
the most fully grown brain, the best vision and greatest
intelligence in the nation... according to Hammond's
scientific proof of God.



You don't get out much, do you?

You're off-topic, Stalkerazzi scum
.
User: "JessHC"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 22 Feb 2007 05:22:37 PM
George Hammond wrote:

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:26:42 +0000, Phineas T Puddleduck
<phineaspuddleduck@googlemail.com> wrote:

In article <105st2hpdb66ep6qf73md1pr5do56auiqo@4ax.com>,
George Hammond <Nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote:

[Hammond]
The soverign, be it the King or the President certainly
DOES "rule by the grace of God".... in so far as (ideally)
the soverign has the lowest "growth deficit" and therefore
the most fully grown brain, the best vision and greatest
intelligence in the nation... according to Hammond's
scientific proof of God.



You don't get out much, do you?


You're off-topic, Stalkerazzi scum

It's funny you'd say that whilst cross-posting this unsupported
juvenile fantasy crap into alt.atheism.
.

User: "Phineas T Puddleduck"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 22 Feb 2007 04:47:14 PM
In article <bs6st2lg2vcm4qme3pltoeaahdq65retrt@4ax.com>,
George Hammond <Nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote:

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:26:42 +0000, Phineas T Puddleduck
<phineaspuddleduck@googlemail.com> wrote:

In article <105st2hpdb66ep6qf73md1pr5do56auiqo@4ax.com>,
George Hammond <Nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote:

[Hammond]
The soverign, be it the King or the President certainly
DOES "rule by the grace of God".... in so far as (ideally)
the soverign has the lowest "growth deficit" and therefore
the most fully grown brain, the best vision and greatest
intelligence in the nation... according to Hammond's
scientific proof of God.



You don't get out much, do you?


You're off-topic, Stalkerazzi scum

SO tell me GH, do you still believe blind people have no IQ?
--
<-Coffee Boy-> = Preferably white, with two sugars
Saucerheads - denying the blatantly obvious since 2000.
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User: ""

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST= 22 Feb 2007 05:00:05 PM
On 22 Feb, 23:47, Phineas T Puddleduck
<phineaspuddled...@googlemail.com> wrote:

In article <bs6st2lg2vcm4qme3pltoeaahdq65re...@4ax.com>,
George Hammond <Nowhe...@notspam.org> wrote:





On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:26:42 +0000, Phineas T Puddleduck
<phineaspuddled...@googlemail.com> wrote:


In article <105st2hpdb66ep6qf73md1pr5do56au...@4ax.com>,
George Hammond <Nowhe...@notspam.org> wrote:


[Hammond]
The soverign, be it the King or the President certainly
DOES "rule by the grace of God".... in so far as (ideally)
the soverign has the lowest "growth deficit" and therefore
the most fully grown brain, the best vision and greatest
intelligence in the nation... according to Hammond's
scientific proof of God.


You don't get out much, do you?


You're off-topic, Stalkerazzi scum


SO tell me GH, do you still believe blind people have no IQ?

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Actually Phineas i known blind people with IQ 178 perhaps higher.
Best regards Jonas Th=F6rnvall
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User: "Phineas T Puddleduck"

Title: Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST=