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User: "Nils-Erik Forsberg"
Date: 14 Oct 2003 04:53:38 PM
Object: Re: There is never anything wrong with God.
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:17:17 -0700, "Immortalist"
<Reanimater_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Nils-Erik Forsberg" <prosacom@swipnet.se> wrote in message
news:3f8ba3a2.5417088@nntpserver.swip.net...

The only which could become wrong is what human beings think about how
God is.

Wrong thinking could become wrong to such an extreme degree that the
mind becomes closed for right thinking.

But not so without early wake up signals from God to change thoughts.

Concrete - How is the selfevident constitution of God?

That question is to be answered as sensible as are scientific
questions answered.

Who one human being is satisfyed with life if questions are not
understandably answered?

Nils F


- You represent the various groups as "big agents." For instance, you think
what is happening in the political arena is that "Labour is trying to do
this ..." or "the Tory party is doing that..." although parties cannot
literally be trying to do anything, as they are not persons.

I do not think and say so.
You think and say that I think so although I always say that I base my
thinking on beings as I am a being, and the permanent quality of the
being is the ability to sense.
It is not may be so.
Starting from that unavoidable fact it is possible to mutually
understand the whole being you and I participate in and belong to and
then value thereafter.

- When you eat a food and you get sick an instinct leads you to feel
disfavor for that kind of food.

No because it is only may be so or may be not that way you get sick.

- This added to many cultural artifacts de-coupled from immediate sense
perception leads to good and evil?

Who one being could ever be de-coupled from immediate sense?
Stop trying to think and talk as were you some times de-coupled from
immediate sense or that sense is partial and not mutual.
Could you talk about anyting at all without sense or could sense be
there without you?
Nils F
.

User: "Immortalist"

Title: Re: There is never anything wrong with God. 15 Oct 2003 03:33:41 PM
"Nils-Erik Forsberg" <prosacom@swipnet.se> wrote in message
news:3f8c705e.9904752@nntpserver.swip.net...

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:17:17 -0700, "Immortalist"
<Reanimater_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Nils-Erik Forsberg" <prosacom@swipnet.se> wrote in message
news:3f8ba3a2.5417088@nntpserver.swip.net...

The only which could become wrong is what human beings think about how
God is.

Wrong thinking could become wrong to such an extreme degree that the
mind becomes closed for right thinking.

But not so without early wake up signals from God to change thoughts.

Concrete - How is the selfevident constitution of God?

That question is to be answered as sensible as are scientific
questions answered.

Who one human being is satisfyed with life if questions are not
understandably answered?

Nils F


- You represent the various groups as "big agents." For instance, you

think

what is happening in the political arena is that "Labour is trying to do
this ..." or "the Tory party is doing that..." although parties cannot
literally be trying to do anything, as they are not persons.


I do not think and say so.

You think and say that I think so although I always say that I base my
thinking on beings as I am a being, and the permanent quality of the
being is the ability to sense.

It is not may be so.

Starting from that unavoidable fact it is possible to mutually
understand the whole being you and I participate in and belong to and
then value thereafter.

- When you eat a food and you get sick an instinct leads you to feel
disfavor for that kind of food.


No because it is only may be so or may be not that way you get sick.

But it is a human and mammilian universal. Most humans and mammals remeber
when food made them sick and do not want to eat that food for a time.

- This added to many cultural artifacts de-coupled from immediate sense
perception leads to good and evil?


Who one being could ever be de-coupled from immediate sense?

Stop trying to think and talk as were you some times de-coupled from
immediate sense or that sense is partial and not mutual.

Could you talk about anyting at all without sense or could sense be
there without you?

I suppose a bit of both?

Nils F

.
User: "Nils-Erik Forsberg"

Title: Re: There is never anything wrong with God. 16 Oct 2003 02:52:58 AM
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:33:41 -0700, "Immortalist"
<Reanimater_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Nils-Erik Forsberg" <prosacom@swipnet.se> wrote in message
news:3f8c705e.9904752@nntpserver.swip.net...

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:17:17 -0700, "Immortalist"
<Reanimater_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Nils-Erik Forsberg" <prosacom@swipnet.se> wrote in message
news:3f8ba3a2.5417088@nntpserver.swip.net...

The only which could become wrong is what human beings think about how
God is.

Wrong thinking could become wrong to such an extreme degree that the
mind becomes closed for right thinking.

But not so without early wake up signals from God to change thoughts.

Concrete - How is the selfevident constitution of God?

That question is to be answered as sensible as are scientific
questions answered.

Who one human being is satisfyed with life if questions are not
understandably answered?

Nils F


- You represent the various groups as "big agents." For instance, you

think

what is happening in the political arena is that "Labour is trying to do
this ..." or "the Tory party is doing that..." although parties cannot
literally be trying to do anything, as they are not persons.


I do not think and say so.

You think and say that I think so although I always say that I base my
thinking on beings as I am a being, and the permanent quality of the
being is the ability to sense.

It is not may be so.

Starting from that unavoidable fact it is possible to mutually
understand the whole being you and I participate in and belong to and
then value thereafter.

- When you eat a food and you get sick an instinct leads you to feel
disfavor for that kind of food.


No because it is only may be so or may be not that way you get sick.


But it is a human and mammilian universal. Most humans and mammals remeber
when food made them sick and do not want to eat that food for a time.

Yes and think so for a time.

- This added to many cultural artifacts de-coupled from immediate sense
perception leads to good and evil?


Who one being could ever be de-coupled from immediate sense?

Stop trying to think and talk as were you some times de-coupled from
immediate sense or that sense is partial and not mutual.

Could you talk about anyting at all without sense or could sense be
there without you?


I suppose a bit of both?

Sounds like a magic circle to me.
Nils F
.
User: "Immortalist"

Title: Re: There is never anything wrong with God. 16 Oct 2003 02:26:39 PM
"Nils-Erik Forsberg" <prosacom@swipnet.se> wrote in message
news:3f8e4d7e.7081376@nntpserver.swip.net...

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:33:41 -0700, "Immortalist"
<Reanimater_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Nils-Erik Forsberg" <prosacom@swipnet.se> wrote in message
news:3f8c705e.9904752@nntpserver.swip.net...

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:17:17 -0700, "Immortalist"
<Reanimater_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Nils-Erik Forsberg" <prosacom@swipnet.se> wrote in message
news:3f8ba3a2.5417088@nntpserver.swip.net...

The only which could become wrong is what human beings think about

how

God is.

Wrong thinking could become wrong to such an extreme degree that the
mind becomes closed for right thinking.

But not so without early wake up signals from God to change

thoughts.


Concrete - How is the selfevident constitution of God?

That question is to be answered as sensible as are scientific
questions answered.

Who one human being is satisfyed with life if questions are not
understandably answered?

Nils F


- You represent the various groups as "big agents." For instance, you

think

what is happening in the political arena is that "Labour is trying to

do

this ..." or "the Tory party is doing that..." although parties cannot
literally be trying to do anything, as they are not persons.


I do not think and say so.

You think and say that I think so although I always say that I base my
thinking on beings as I am a being, and the permanent quality of the
being is the ability to sense.

It is not may be so.

Starting from that unavoidable fact it is possible to mutually
understand the whole being you and I participate in and belong to and
then value thereafter.

- When you eat a food and you get sick an instinct leads you to feel
disfavor for that kind of food.


No because it is only may be so or may be not that way you get sick.


But it is a human and mammilian universal. Most humans and mammals

remeber

when food made them sick and do not want to eat that food for a time.


Yes and think so for a time.

- This added to many cultural artifacts de-coupled from immediate

sense

perception leads to good and evil?


Who one being could ever be de-coupled from immediate sense?

Stop trying to think and talk as were you some times de-coupled from
immediate sense or that sense is partial and not mutual.

Could you talk about anyting at all without sense or could sense be
there without you?


I suppose a bit of both?


Sounds like a magic circle to me.

Many higher mammals have de-coupled modalities when compared with more basic
animals. An increased division of labor and increased neural efficiency
arrises with this de-coupling of strict instinctual controls and imprinting
of cultural machinations in their place.
http://www.punkbands.com/lyrics/bands/circlejerks/index.htm


Nils F

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