On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 18:16:24 +0000 (UTC), "Ray" <ray@syntex.com>
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 16:19:17 +0000 (UTC), "Ray" <ray@syntex.com>
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 14:03:25 +0000 (UTC), "Ray" <ray@syntex.com>
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 15:50:40 +0000 (UTC), "Ray" <ray@syntex.com>
wrote:
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Well, why are you here?
To point out that there are alternatives to veg*nism which would
actually
contribute to better lives for farm animals, and to less wildlife
deaths.
We don't agree on much David, and we have had a few arguments in the
past.but I would
never accuse you of 'Nymshifting', or personal glorification.
Stop fraternizing with the enemy or you'll find yourself on a charge.
Interesting to note that the people responsible ( on both sides) have
not
bothered to respond
to my message. Could it be that they wish to continue posting to
'Usenet'
in
their present manner?
Or perhaps they just consider me a prat, either way I don't give a
damn.
Should this be the case, we all waste our time.
Long may we continue to try and kick the crap out of each other, but
at
least let's do it under our own name.
Nymshifting is very effective Ray. It stops people building a history
against you, which is quite important because even telling someone to
***** is an offense. It circumvents kill filters which is the best
poke in the eye known to man. Not to mention it winds the net nannys
up something rotten.
I say nymshifting is a must.
Right, but only to certain point.
You only have to look at last weeks posts, you don't know WTF you are
posting to, look at the time I wasted!
You don't waste anything if you only respond to content. It's what
someone says, not who they are. On that basis it doesn't matter who
posts what, if it's worthy of praise give it, worthy of derision give.
I can take both.
An e-mail would have prevented this!
Separate cells is the way to go. Links to each other not recommended.
Headers are changed, and it was only the time zone which caught him out.
Why did you need that. Could you not decide based on the content?
Forget who it is and concentrate on what it is saying.
Would you slag JB of if he supported ARs in a particular view?
When you get to this stage, you have to ask yourself the question, am I
here
for myself or the cause I am supposed to support.
You are here to support ARs and nothing else. Oh, and have a laugh
too.
I could put the question to you, but I already know the answer.
Last weeks postings can only damage the cause we support - don't you
agree?
Not really. The end result is to spread the word. Nobody listens to
infighting from either side. Best bet is to ignore non ARAs, but that
would be too easy.
It's not non ARs I am posting against, that's my point.
It doesn't matter. Just because we support the same team doesn't mean
we HAVE to get on at all.
It's the type of thing we expect from Jonny, if you start the caper of
changing headers you put yourself on the same level.
No you don't.
Nymshifting is fine, provided it is done via a remailer, then we all know
who we are talking to:-)
Lol no you don't. Over 7 million people use remailers, they cant all
be the same person.
This was not a remailer. It was a fellow ARA taking the *****, for political
reasons.
Whch ever way you look at it last week was infighting, and a fucking
waste
of time, and I know the reason!
Who cares ray?
I Do, time is money.I don't want to spend my time having an argument with
somone who thinks he shares the same views as me, but for other reasons he
posts as someone else. The very least he could have done is to inform me via
e-mail.
So don't talk to him.
Racism.
ARAs and non ARAs can be racist, so what. Racism is not the privilege
of the rich.
If people on our side wish to tackle me on the subject, right, I'm here.
I just did.
yes and you are supporting a timewaster
No. I support ARs.
I'm
not going to throw teddy or golly (oops) out of the pram.
Ever?
Well, a bit.
If it's decided that my views are causing the AR side some damage, right,
We are only human. You can be a racist jack the ripper pedophile and
still support ARs, who gives a ***** what anyone else says?
When it comes from the side I support I do.
There are no sides. You support ARs.
I'll leave. I'm here for AR, not myself.
Now you are being a tart.
No way, if my racist postings are a blight on the movement ! will leave.
It's more important than my views.
Your racist views are your own, what you do with them is up to you.
either way you can still support ARs.
Simple as that.
It is.
Your support for ARs is needed. If you are racist, black and a pagan
too that's your problem and no one elses so don't give a flying *****
what they or anyone else says.
Fair enough, but a team gets better results. A chain is only as strong as
it's weakest link.
Well get that idea out of your head. We're not a team here.
As for hypocrisy, life is full of it and we all subscribe to it in one
way or another. Sticks and stones..............
Yes, but if you are fighting the enemy from the front, the last thing you
want is a back stabber, seeking to take the ***** for his own gratification.
That's life. Kick him back then.
I judge your ARs views on what they are, not on who you are.
That's the way it should be.
But it's not.
Now some explanation is long overdue from the poster in question.
Swinging handbags is not allowed.
.