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Topic: Science > Philosophy
User: "Robert Cohen"
Date: 22 Dec 2005 09:26:09 AM
Object: U.S. Military Power: Peacekeeper for China-Japan
My point of view: The Chinese & Japanese, probably cousins in
anthropological pre-history, implicitly/rationally rely on the U.S. to
maintain balance/stability.
If Japan should maximally arm itself because of fear of China, the
dynamics thereof could conceivably upset 50+ years of relative
peacefulness, while
admittedly there have been ugly wars of Korea , Vietnam and nasty
incidents/frictions aplenty.
Thus the U.S. base in Okinawa etal
and continuing committments to South Korea & Taiwan.
Imho: It's no longer an assured given that the U.S. can/shall continue
to expend $USD military billions; because of seeming foolishness &
reluctance of Republican-lead taxpayers:
Yesterday, the GOP Congress coldly cut-back some $40 billion worth of
domestic Medicaid, Medicare and student loan benefits rather than
re-impose/increase the income tax.
I am not reassured that the Democrats could/can re-gain political power
nor govern well without re-raising taxes.
There is seemingly a growing isolationist sentiment amongst Americans
including younger university-educated Democrats very turned-off by the
Iraq situation.
Thus: a tragic-for-the relative world peace U.S. insolvency & weakness
is seeming to me to be indicated/suggested.
Hopefully, this scenario/shite won't happen in my remaining lifetime.
I'm worried for my Grandchild.
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/22/051222110346.gtq29z12.html
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User: "Jesse"

Title: Re: U.S. Military Power: Peacekeeper for China-Japan 22 Dec 2005 12:20:06 PM
"Robert Cohen" <robtcohen@msn.com> wrote in news:1135265169.271949.249850
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

My point of view: The Chinese & Japanese, probably cousins in
anthropological pre-history, implicitly/rationally rely on the U.S. to
maintain balance/stability.

If Japan should maximally arm itself because of fear of China, the
dynamics thereof could conceivably upset 50+ years of relative
peacefulness, while
admittedly there have been ugly wars of Korea , Vietnam and nasty
incidents/frictions aplenty.

Thus the U.S. base in Okinawa etal
and continuing committments to South Korea & Taiwan.

Imho: It's no longer an assured given that the U.S. can/shall continue
to expend $USD military billions; because of seeming foolishness &
reluctance of Republican-lead taxpayers:

Yesterday, the GOP Congress coldly cut-back some $40 billion worth of
domestic Medicaid, Medicare and student loan benefits rather than
re-impose/increase the income tax.

I am not reassured that the Democrats could/can re-gain political power
nor govern well without re-raising taxes.

There is seemingly a growing isolationist sentiment amongst Americans
including younger university-educated Democrats very turned-off by the
Iraq situation.

Thus: a tragic-for-the relative world peace U.S. insolvency & weakness
is seeming to me to be indicated/suggested.

Hopefully, this scenario/shite won't happen in my remaining lifetime.

I'm worried for my Grandchild.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/22/051222110346.gtq29z12.html

Don't know why you posted this in alt.france, but I would say a strong
Japan is both ineviatable and crucial for Americas long term interests.
We can not and should not be overlord and protector in Asian affairs into
eternity.
This implies a gradual and natural shift in the balance of power, which
would quite naturally gravitate towards Japan.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: U.S. Military Power: Peacekeeper for China-Japan 08 Jan 2006 10:05:23 AM
Strategically, Japan is a very fragil country, large part of this
nation's wealth and population is concentrated around Tokyo
metropolitan area,which make Japan very vulnerable to aerial attack,
not to mention nuclear attack. And also remember that Japan has to
import almost all the natural resources it needs,which means naval
blockade will be devastating to japanese economy. 19 centry's Japan
managed to become a big military power only because she took
advantage of
power vaccum in east asia and other struggle among big powers. Look at
east Asia's map in late 19 century: China's minority dominated Qing
Dynasty was internally very weak, and Qing's rules had to spend most
of their time dealing with peasant rebellions, at the
same time,keep a eye on the majority Han. America could get most of
what she need from its own hemisphere, so she didnt show much interest
in Asia, then dominant great power,namely,the British Empire,
was the most influential power in EA, but she had to constantly fend
off challenges from Russa, who shared long-running border with China.
Japan ascent to Great Power status was achieved largely through its
alliance with Brition, because of its alliance, Japan was able to
defeat China and Russia,and in the process of it, occupied Korea,Taiwan
and made Manchuria a semi-colony. Only after that, Japan was able to
claim its status as EA's dominant power, even so,
in the late 30s of last century, the fast-uniting-china held real
possibility of suppass Japan, which forced Japan to do whatever it took
to stop China's unification,including direct invasion of China,sadly
for Japan,she could never be able to occupy a country as big as china
,she just didnot have the resources. The adverture in china depleted
japanese national resources and made japan scramble to find new
resources,in the end, forced japan to even bigger adverture,Pearl
Harbor,which spell the end of Japan position as military power.
Japan could never be able to be asia's police man as long as china was
united, Japan was simply too small and resource-poor,which mean Japan
could not survive in a real war with his giant neighbor,no
matter how richer Japan is than China.
.
User: "Immortalist"

Title: Re: U.S. Military Power: Peacekeeper for China-Japan 09 Jan 2006 12:26:31 PM
<d12s34f56@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1136736323.110986.179490@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Strategically, Japan is a very fragil country, large part of this
nation's wealth and population is concentrated around Tokyo
metropolitan area,which make Japan very vulnerable to aerial attack,
not to mention nuclear attack. And also remember that Japan has to
import almost all the natural resources it needs,which means naval
blockade will be devastating to japanese economy. 19 centry's Japan
managed to become a big military power only because she took
advantage of
power vaccum in east asia and other struggle among big powers. Look at
east Asia's map in late 19 century: China's minority dominated Qing
Dynasty was internally very weak, and Qing's rules had to spend most
of their time dealing with peasant rebellions, at the
same time,keep a eye on the majority Han. America could get most of
what she need from its own hemisphere, so she didnt show much interest
in Asia, then dominant great power,namely,the British Empire,
was the most influential power in EA, but she had to constantly fend
off challenges from Russa, who shared long-running border with China.
Japan ascent to Great Power status was achieved largely through its
alliance with Brition, because of its alliance, Japan was able to
defeat China and Russia,and in the process of it, occupied Korea,Taiwan
and made Manchuria a semi-colony. Only after that, Japan was able to
claim its status as EA's dominant power, even so,
in the late 30s of last century, the fast-uniting-china held real
possibility of suppass Japan, which forced Japan to do whatever it took
to stop China's unification,including direct invasion of China,sadly
for Japan,she could never be able to occupy a country as big as china
,she just didnot have the resources. The adverture in china depleted
japanese national resources and made japan scramble to find new
resources,in the end, forced japan to even bigger adverture,Pearl
Harbor,which spell the end of Japan position as military power.

Japan could never be able to be asia's police man as long as china was
united, Japan was simply too small and resource-poor,which mean Japan
could not survive in a real war with his giant neighbor,no
matter how richer Japan is than China.

It appears that China is coming into the position to defend free-market
capitalism and will protect financial markets which will then allow the
defense of individual rights in the area thus promoting freedom from nearby
socialist imbeciles and losers. China, our friend.
.


User: "Robert Cohen"

Title: Re: U.S. Military Power: Peacekeeper for China-Japan 29 Dec 2005 02:53:33 PM
This is another article about a current alleged lowpoint of Sino-Japan
Relations since seemingly the 1930s--mid twentieth century.
http://csmonitor.com/2005/1229/p01s02-woap.html
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