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User: "harunyahya"
Date: 12 Sep 2005 02:42:34 AM
Object: Why are wisdom teeth not evidence of evolution ?
Why are wisdom teeth not evidence of evolution ?
HARUN YAHYA
www.harunyahya.com
ONE of the theory of evolution's important deceptions is its claim
regarding "vestigial organs." Evolutionists claim that some organs in
living things lose their original function over time, and that such
organs then disappear. Taking that as a starting point, they then try
to send out the message, "If the living body had really been created,
it would have no functionless organs in it."
Evolutionist publications at the start of the twentieth century
announced that the human body contained up to a hundred organs that no
longer served any purpose, including the appendix, the coccyx, the
tonsils, the pineal gland, the external ear, the thymus, and wisdom
teeth. However, the decades that followed saw major advances in medical
science. Our knowledge of the organs and systems in the human body
increased. As a result of this, it was seen that the idea of vestigial
organs was just a superstition. The long list drawn up by evolutionists
rapidly shrank. It was discovered that the thymus is an organ which
produces important immune system cells, and that the pineal gland is
responsible for the production of important hormones. It also emerged
that the coccyx supports the bones around the pelvis, and that the
external ear plays an important role in identifying where sounds come
from. In short, it emerged that ignorance was the only foundation on
which the idea of "vestigial organs" rested.
Modern science has many times demonstrated the error of the concept of
such organs. Yet some evolutionists still try to make use of this
claim. Although medical science has proved that almost all of the
organs that evolutionists claim are vestigial actually serve a purpose,
evolutionary speculation still surrounds one or two organs.The most
noteworthy of these is our wisdom teeth. The claim that these teeth are
a part of the human body that has lost all purpose still appears in
evolutionist sources. As evidence for this, it is stated that these
teeth give a great many people a lot of trouble, and that chewing is
not impaired when they are surgically removed.
Many dentists, influenced by the evolutionists' claim that wisdom teeth
serve no purpose, have come to see their extraction as a routine
matter, and do not make the same kind of effort to protect them as they
do for other teeth. However, research in recent years has shown that
wisdom teeth have the same chewing function as other teeth. Studies
have also been carried out to show that the belief that wisdom teeth
damage the position of other teeth in the mouth is completely
unfounded. Scientific criticism is now amassing ways in which problems
with wisdom teeth which could be solved in other ways are instead
solved by extracting them. In fact, the scientific consensus is that
wisdom teeth have a chewing function just like all the others, and that
there is no scientific justification for the belief that they serve no
purpose.
So, why do wisdom teeth cause a substantial number of people problems?
Scientists who have researched the subject have discovered that wisdom
tooth difficulties have manifested themselves in different ways among
human communities at different times. It is now understood that the
problem was seldom seen in pre-industrial societies. It has been
discovered that the way in which soft foodstuffs have come to be
preferred to harder ones, over the last few hundred years in
particular, has negatively affected the way the human jaw develops. It
has thus been realised that most wisdom tooth troubles emerge as a
result of jaw development problems relating to dietary habits.
It is also known that society's nutritional habits also have negative
effects on our other teeth. For instance, the increasing consumption of
foodstuffs high in sugar and acid has increased the rate that other
teeth decay. However, that fact does not make us think that all our
teeth have somehow "atrophied." The same principle applies to wisdom
teeth. Problems with these teeth stem from contemporary dietary
customs, not from any evolutionary "atrophy."
.

User: "Brian Fletcher"

Title: Re: Why are wisdom teeth not evidence of evolution ? 12 Sep 2005 04:14:22 AM
"harunyahya" <harunyahya2011@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126510954.285489.22520@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

Why are wisdom teeth not evidence of evolution ?

HARUN YAHYA
www.harunyahya.com

SNIP ......


The same principle applies to wisdom

teeth. Problems with these teeth stem from contemporary dietary
customs, not from any evolutionary "atrophy."

Surely more examples of evolution and adaption.
Our dietry habits "evolve" (albeit arguably negatively) and our organism
adapts.
Good evidence of "divine design".
BOfL
.

User: "Bret Cahill"

Title: Re: Why are wisdom teeth not evidence of evolution ? 12 Sep 2005 04:44:29 PM
Well don't keep us settin' on the edges of our chairs.
What does the appendix do?
Bret Cahill
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User: "Brian Fletcher"

Title: Re: Why are wisdom teeth not evidence of evolution ? 12 Sep 2005 09:27:58 PM
"Bret Cahill" <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1126561469.491434.126400@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Well don't keep us settin' on the edges of our chairs.

What does the appendix do?


Bret Cahill

Sometimes creates appendicitis. :-)))...(and provides work for surgeons.)
BOfL
.


User: "Immortalist"

Title: Re: Why are wisdom teeth not evidence of evolution ? 12 Sep 2005 12:32:51 PM
harunyahya wrote:

Why are wisdom teeth not evidence of evolution ?

HARUN YAHYA
www.harunyahya.com


ONE of the theory of evolution's important deceptions

Busted, this article is biased as a motha fucka baby.
Veiw 1. Wisdom teeth are sometimes described as an example of a
"vestigial" trait that may be disappearing from our species via
((biology) the sequence of events involved in the evolutionary
development of a species or taxonomic group of organisms) evolution
although there are others that argue that recent changes to softer
diets requiring less use of the teeth can be the source of third molars
becoming useless and problematic in many humans.
View 2. Alternately, it is possible that wisdom teeth were useful when
it was common for humans to have lost several teeth to (The process of
gradually becoming inferior) decay by the age when they appear.
Reanimater's View 3. The softer diets and decay have set the wisdom
teeth "on the path" to becoming "vestigial," don't forget that there
might be a mixed economy going on here and alot can happen in 40,000
years paleolith!
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/w/wi/wisdom_teeth.htm
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/v/ve/vermiform_appendix.htm

is its claim
regarding "vestigial organs." Evolutionists claim that some organs in
living things lose their original function over time, and that such
organs then disappear. Taking that as a starting point, they then try
to send out the message, "If the living body had really been created,
it would have no functionless organs in it."
Evolutionist publications at the start of the twentieth century
announced that the human body contained up to a hundred organs that no
longer served any purpose, including the appendix, the coccyx, the
tonsils, the pineal gland, the external ear, the thymus, and wisdom
teeth. However, the decades that followed saw major advances in medical
science. Our knowledge of the organs and systems in the human body
increased. As a result of this, it was seen that the idea of vestigial
organs was just a superstition. The long list drawn up by evolutionists
rapidly shrank. It was discovered that the thymus is an organ which
produces important immune system cells, and that the pineal gland is
responsible for the production of important hormones. It also emerged
that the coccyx supports the bones around the pelvis, and that the
external ear plays an important role in identifying where sounds come
from. In short, it emerged that ignorance was the only foundation on
which the idea of "vestigial organs" rested.

Modern science has many times demonstrated the error of the concept of
such organs. Yet some evolutionists still try to make use of this
claim. Although medical science has proved that almost all of the
organs that evolutionists claim are vestigial actually serve a purpose,
evolutionary speculation still surrounds one or two organs.The most
noteworthy of these is our wisdom teeth. The claim that these teeth are
a part of the human body that has lost all purpose still appears in
evolutionist sources. As evidence for this, it is stated that these
teeth give a great many people a lot of trouble, and that chewing is
not impaired when they are surgically removed.
Many dentists, influenced by the evolutionists' claim that wisdom teeth
serve no purpose, have come to see their extraction as a routine
matter, and do not make the same kind of effort to protect them as they
do for other teeth. However, research in recent years has shown that
wisdom teeth have the same chewing function as other teeth. Studies
have also been carried out to show that the belief that wisdom teeth
damage the position of other teeth in the mouth is completely
unfounded. Scientific criticism is now amassing ways in which problems
with wisdom teeth which could be solved in other ways are instead
solved by extracting them. In fact, the scientific consensus is that
wisdom teeth have a chewing function just like all the others, and that
there is no scientific justification for the belief that they serve no
purpose.

So, why do wisdom teeth cause a substantial number of people problems?
Scientists who have researched the subject have discovered that wisdom
tooth difficulties have manifested themselves in different ways among
human communities at different times. It is now understood that the
problem was seldom seen in pre-industrial societies. It has been
discovered that the way in which soft foodstuffs have come to be
preferred to harder ones, over the last few hundred years in
particular, has negatively affected the way the human jaw develops. It
has thus been realised that most wisdom tooth troubles emerge as a
result of jaw development problems relating to dietary habits.

It is also known that society's nutritional habits also have negative
effects on our other teeth. For instance, the increasing consumption of
foodstuffs high in sugar and acid has increased the rate that other
teeth decay. However, that fact does not make us think that all our
teeth have somehow "atrophied." The same principle applies to wisdom
teeth. Problems with these teeth stem from contemporary dietary
customs, not from any evolutionary "atrophy."

.
User: "Bret Cahill"

Title: Bad Backs & Wisdom Teeth Prove NSID (Not So Intelligent Design) 12 Sep 2005 05:18:51 PM
Modern humans generally have a smaller jaw than our primate/humanoid
ancestors but usually still get the full ape compliment of teeth which
no longer all fit into our mouths. This is an example of NSID (Not So
Intelligent Design).
Some people have already evolved around the tooth/jaw problem. They
don't get wisdom teeth at all.
I haven't researched it but I'll go out on a limb and bet chimps and
all other great apes always get all 32 teeth, if not more.
Bad backs come from walking upright only recently (3 - 10 million years
ago) and that is probably the most spectacular example of NSID. 80% of
us suffer from back problems.
Is anyone going to tell us a bad back is an intelligent design?
Bret Cahill
.
User: "Brian Fletcher"

Title: Re: Bad Backs & Wisdom Teeth Prove NSID (Not So Intelligent Design) 12 Sep 2005 09:22:11 PM
"Bret Cahill" <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1126563531.693728.310520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Modern humans generally have a smaller jaw than our primate/humanoid
ancestors but usually still get the full ape compliment of teeth which
no longer all fit into our mouths. This is an example of NSID (Not So
Intelligent Design).

Some people have already evolved around the tooth/jaw problem. They
don't get wisdom teeth at all.

I haven't researched it but I'll go out on a limb and bet chimps and
all other great apes always get all 32 teeth, if not more.

Bad backs come from walking upright only recently (3 - 10 million years
ago) and that is probably the most spectacular example of NSID. 80% of
us suffer from back problems.

Is anyone going to tell us a bad back is an intelligent design?


Bret Cahill

Yes.
I have been a physical coach for thirty years.
When people are confronted with their "bad design", they have to "raise
their game".
When they do, they discover more of their own power. The deeper purpose for
the so called "flaws".
The "old 80/20 law" once more.
BOfL
.

User: "Immortalist"

Title: Re: Bad Backs & Wisdom Teeth Prove NSID (Not So Intelligent Design) 13 Sep 2005 12:15:34 AM
Bret Cahill wrote:

Modern humans generally have a smaller jaw than our primate/humanoid
ancestors but usually still get the full ape compliment of teeth which
no longer all fit into our mouths. This is an example of NSID (Not So
Intelligent Design).

If apes changed from pulling on meat with their back teeth to eating
softer foods things might begin to change. A dog that eats alot of
sugar gets alot of cavities as bad as humans.
--------------------
Summary
Evolutionists have taught that humans evolved from ape-like ancestors
that possessed larger jaws and teeth than us. In the process of
evolution the jaw has become smaller, allowing less room for the third
molars and causing numerous dental problems. Our better understanding
of the complex teeth-jaw relationship has revealed this explanation is
far too simplistic. Research now indicates that the reasons for most
third molar problems today are not due to evolutionary changes but
other reasons. These reasons include a change from a course abrasive
diet to a soft western diet, lack of proper dental care, and genetic
factors possibly including mutations. Common past dental practice was a
tendency to routinely remove wisdom teeth. Recent empirical research
has concluded that this practice is unwise. Third molars in general
should be left alone unless a problem develops and then they should be
treated as any other teeth. At times removal is required, but
appropriate efforts to deal with problem teeth should be implemented
before resorting to their extraction.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v12/i3/wisdomteeth.asp

Some people have already evolved around the tooth/jaw problem. They
don't get wisdom teeth at all.

I haven't researched it but I'll go out on a limb and bet chimps and
all other great apes always get all 32 teeth, if not more.

Bad backs come from walking upright only recently (3 - 10 million years
ago) and that is probably the most spectacular example of NSID. 80% of
us suffer from back problems.

Is anyone going to tell us a bad back is an intelligent design?


Bret Cahill

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