Science > Physics > *** HILAL (Crescent Moon) SIGHTING 16/17 Mon/Tue AUG 2004, RAJAB 1425 AH ***
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*** HILAL (Crescent Moon) SIGHTING 16/17 Mon/Tue AUG 2004, RAJAB 1425 AH *** |
Bismillah hir-Rahman nir-Rahim
(In the name of ALLAH, THE MOST BENEFICENT, THE MOST MERCIFUL)
Dr. Mohib. N. DURRANI, mnd0@columbia.edu, Copyright (c) 2003
Homepage: http://www.Hilal-Sighting.Com
SUBJECT: CRESCENT MOON: FIRST VISIBILITY (every lunar month)
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ISLAMIC Year and Month 1425 AH Rajab [7th Islamic Month]
Astronomical New Moon Date 2004 Aug 16d 01h 24m (UT) (Mon)
[INVISIBLE]
Sighting Date, Evening of 2004 Aug 16 (Mon) evening
Sighting Date Increase 0 [day(s) from Astro New Moon Date]
Event times are approximate Civil -- Clock -- Standard -- Time
(nearest) (+N,-S) (+E) Zone QIBLA SUN MOON AGEat [MOON - SUN]
Unaided-Eye
CITY LAT LONG -UT East SET SET Sunset Elg Alt Azm SIGHTING
*********** deg deg hr MagN Hr:Mn Hr:Mn Hr:Min Deg Deg Deg
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..MAKKAH-SArb 21.4 39.8 +3 0 18:51 19:24 14: 27 +7 +7 -1 VERY DFCLT$
..DARSLM-Tnzn -6.8 39.2 +3 1 18:25 18:54 14: 1 +7<+7 +3 VERY DFCLT$
%MOSCOW-Rusa 55.8 37.6 +3 176 20: 3 20:42 15: 39 +8 +5 -6 IMPOSSIBLE$
%ISTNBUL-Trk 41.0 28.9 +2 152 19: 3 19:40 15: 39 +8<+7 -5 VERY DFCLT$
..CAIRO-Egypt 30.1 31.3 +2 137 18:35 19:10 15: 11 +8 +7 -3 VERY DFCLT$
..KHRTUM-Sudn 15.5 32.6 +2 48 18:13 18:46 14: 49 +8<+8 -0 VERY DFCLT$
..CPETOWN-SAf -33.8 18.6 +2 23 18:18 18:44 14: 54 +8 +5 +6 IMPOSSIBLE
..LAGOS-Nigra 6.5 3.4 +1 63 19: 1 19:36 16: 37 +8 +8 +1 DIFFICULT
..ALGIERS-Alg 36.8 3.0 +0 106 18:37 19:16 17: 13 +9 +7 -5 VERY DFCLT$
%GRENWCH-Eng 51.5 0.0 +0 119 19:19 19:59 17: 55 +9<+6 -7 IMPOSSIBLE$
..DAKAR-Sengl 14.7 -17.5 +0 74 19:31 20: 9 18: 7 +9 +9 -1 DIFFICULT
%RIOJNRO-Brz -22.9 -43.2 -3 68 17:38 18:15 19: 14 +9 +8 +5 DIFFICULT
..PARAMRI-Sur 5.9 -55.2 -3 68 18:53 19:35 20: 29 +10+10 -0 PROBABLE
..BNSARS-Argn -34.7 -58.4 -3 76 18:24 19: 2 20: 0 +10 +7 +7 VERY DFCLT$
%LIMA---Peru -12.4 -77.0 -5 72 18: 4 18:47 21: 40 +10+10 +3 MOST PROBL
%HALIFX-Cand 44.6 -63.6 -4 66 19:16 20: 0 21: 52 +11 +7 -8 DIFFICULT
%NEWYORK-USA 40.8 -74.0 -5 59 18:52 19:36 22: 28 +11 +8 -7 DIFFICULT
%MIAMI---USA 25.8 -80.2 -5 57 18:54 19:40 22: 30 +11+10 -5 PROBABLE
%CHICAGO-USA 41.2 -87.6 -6 49 18:46 19:31 23: 22 +11 +8 -8 DIFFICULT
%DALLAS--USA 32.8 -96.8 -6 44 19: 9 19:55 23: 45 +11 +9 -7 PROBABLE
%DENVER--USA 39.7 -105.0 -7 35 18:54 19:40 24: 30 +12 +9 -8 PROBABLE
%SnDIEGO-USA 32.7 -117.1 -8 25 18:31 19:19 25: 7 +12+10 -7 MOST PROBL
%SnFRNCS-USA 37.7 -122.4 -8 19 18:59 19:47 25: 35 +12 +9 -8 PROBABLE
%VANCOVR-Cnd 49.3 -123.1 -8 17 19:25 20:12 26: 1 +13 +7 -11 DIFFICULT
%ANCHORG-Als 61.1 -150.0 -9 351 20:53 21:35 28: 29 +14 +5 -13 VERY DFCLT$
..HONOLU--Hwi 21.3 -157.5 -10 337 18:58 19:51 27: 34 +13+12 -6 VISIBLE
(INCREASE date one day, if crossing EAST TO WEST)
##################### INTERNATIONAL DATE LINE ######################
(DECREASE date one day, if crossing WEST TO EAST)
%SYDNEY-Aust -33.9 151.2 +10 278 17:27 17:30 6: 3 +5 +1 +5 IMPOSSIBLE
..TOKYO-Japan 35.7 139.7 +9 293 18:30 18:57 8: 6 +5 +5 -1 IMPOSSIBLE
%BEIJING-Chn 39.9 116.4 +8 279 19:10 19:40 9: 46 +6 +5 -2 IMPOSSIBLE
..JAKARTA-Ind -6.3 106.9 +7 295 17:55 18:15 9: 31 +6 +5 +3 IMPOSSIBLE
..DHAKA-BngDs 23.8 90.3 +6 278 18:31 19: 0 11: 7 +6 +6 -0 IMPOSSIBLE$
..AGRA--India 27.2 77.9 +5 269 18:26 18:57 12: 2 +6 +6 -1 IMPOSSIBLE$
..PESHAWR-Pks 33.6 71.4 +5 255 19: 0 19:32 12: 36 +7 +6 -2 IMPOSSIBLE$
..BUKHRA-Uzbk 39.6 64.6 +4 237 18:37 19:11 13: 13 +7 +6 -3 IMPOSSIBLE$
..TEHRAN-Iran 35.7 51.4 +3 218 18:23 18:57 13: 59 +7<+7 -3 VERY DFCLT$
($) = Indicates slight probablity of sighting with optical aids.
(#) = May be visible on Previous Evening, with Difficulty.
(@) = May NOT be visible even on Next Evening.
(*) = Moonset BEFORE Sunset (Obviously IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE)
(<) = Actual Topocentric Altitude of the Moon is LESS THAN the
number
(This information is only for altitudes from 6 to 8 degrees)
[%] = Add 1 hr to event time, during summer DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME,
from nearly early April to nearly end of October, in the Northern
Hemisphere,
from nearly early October to nearly early March, in the Southern
Hemisphere.
Dr.Mohib.N.Durrani
North American Coordinator for Astronomical Information,
Consultant to:
Islamic Society of North America (ISNA)
Islamic Fiqh Council of North America
Look for the HILAL (Crescent Moon) -------> )
It is one of the Most BEAUTIFUL of Creations -------> )
Then offer an INTENSE PRAYER to the ONE CREATOR, OF
-------> )
Surely, ALL SINCERE PRAYERS ARE ACCEPTED -------> )
Homepage: http://www.Hilal-Sighting.Com -------> )
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Bismillah hir-Rahman nir-Rahim
(In the name of ALLAH, THE MOST BENEFICENT, THE MOST MERCIFUL)
Dr. Mohib. N. DURRANI, mnd0@columbia.edu, Copyright (c) 2003
Homepage: http://www.Hilal-Sighting.Com
SUBJECT: CRESCENT MOON: FIRST VISIBILITY (every lunar month)
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ISLAMIC Year and Month 1425 AH Rajab [7th Islamic Month]
Astronomical New Moon Date 2004 Aug 16d 01h 24m (UT) (Mon)
[INVISIBLE]
Sighting Date, Evening of 2004 Aug 17 (Tue) evening
Sighting Date Increase 1 [day(s) from Astro New Moon Date]
Event times are approximate Civil -- Clock -- Standard -- Time
(nearest) (+N,-S) (+E) Zone QIBLA SUN MOON AGEat [MOON - SUN]
Unaided-Eye
CITY LAT LONG -UT East SET SET Sunset Elg Alt Azm SIGHTING
*********** deg deg hr MagN Hr:Mn Hr:Mn Hr:Min Deg Deg Deg
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..MAKKAH-SArb 21.4 39.8 +3 0 18:51 20: 0 38: 27 +18+16 -10 VISIBLE
..DARSLM-Tnzn -6.8 39.2 +3 1 18:25 19:41 38: 1 +18+18 -0 VISIBLE
%MOSCOW-Rusa 55.8 37.6 +3 176 20: 0 20:51 39: 36 +19<+7 -18 PROBABLE
%ISTNBUL-Trk 41.0 28.9 +2 152 19: 1 20: 3 39: 37 +19+11 -15 VISIBLE
..CAIRO-Egypt 30.1 31.3 +2 137 18:34 19:41 39: 10 +19+14 -12 VISIBLE
..KHRTUM-Sudn 15.5 32.6 +2 48 18:13 19:24 38: 49 +18+17 -8 VISIBLE
..CPETOWN-SAf -33.8 18.6 +2 23 18:19 19:45 38: 55 +18+16 +9 VISIBLE
..LAGOS-Nigra 6.5 3.4 +1 63 19: 0 20:17 40: 36 +19+18 -5 VISIBLE
..ALGIERS-Alg 36.8 3.0 +0 106 18:36 19:42 41: 12 +20+13 -15 VISIBLE
%GRENWCH-Eng 51.5 0.0 +0 119 19:17 20:13 41: 53 +20 +9 -18 MOST PROBL
..DAKAR-Sengl 14.7 -17.5 +0 74 19:30 20:47 42: 6 +20+18 -9 VISIBLE
%RIOJNRO-Brz -22.9 -43.2 -3 68 17:38 19:10 43: 14 +20+20 +5 VISIBLE
..PARAMRI-Sur 5.9 -55.2 -3 68 18:53 20:17 44: 29 +21+20 -6 VISIBLE
..BNSARS-Argn -34.7 -58.4 -3 76 18:24 20: 3 44: 0 +21+19 +10 VISIBLE
%LIMA---Peru -12.4 -77.0 -5 72 18: 4 19:37 45: 40 +22+22 +1 VISIBLE
%HALIFX-Cand 44.6 -63.6 -4 66 19:15 20:20 45: 51 +22+11 -19 VISIBLE
%NEWYORK-USA 40.8 -74.0 -5 59 18:50 19:59 46: 26 +22+13 -18 VISIBLE
%MIAMI---USA 25.8 -80.2 -5 57 18:54 20:12 46: 30 +22+17 -14 VISIBLE
%CHICAGO-USA 41.2 -87.6 -6 49 18:45 19:54 47: 21 +23+13 -19 VISIBLE
%DALLAS--USA 32.8 -96.8 -6 44 19: 8 20:24 47: 44 +23+16 -17 VISIBLE
%DENVER--USA 39.7 -105.0 -7 35 18:52 20: 4 48: 28 +23+14 -19 VISIBLE
%SnDIEGO-USA 32.7 -117.1 -8 25 18:30 19:48 49: 6 +24+16 -17 VISIBLE
%SnFRNCS-USA 37.7 -122.4 -8 19 18:58 20:13 49: 34 +24+15 -19 VISIBLE
%VANCOVR-Cnd 49.3 -123.1 -8 17 19:24 20:27 50: 0 +24+10 -22 VISIBLE
%ANCHORG-Als 61.1 -150.0 -9 351 20:50 21:33 52: 26 +26 +5 -25 PROBABLE
..HONOLU--Hwi 21.3 -157.5 -10 337 18:57 20:25 51: 33 +25+20 -15 VISIBLE
(INCREASE date one day, if crossing EAST TO WEST)
##################### INTERNATIONAL DATE LINE ######################
(DECREASE date one day, if crossing WEST TO EAST)
%SYDNEY-Aust -33.9 151.2 +10 278 17:28 18:31 30: 4 +14+12 +8 VISIBLE
..TOKYO-Japan 35.7 139.7 +9 293 18:29 19:25 32: 5 +15+11 -11 VISIBLE
%BEIJING-Chn 39.9 116.4 +8 279 19: 8 20: 5 33: 44 +16+11 -12 MOST PROBL
..JAKARTA-Ind -6.3 106.9 +7 295 17:55 19: 3 33: 31 +16+16 +0 VISIBLE
..DHAKA-BngDs 23.8 90.3 +6 278 18:30 19:34 35: 6 +17+14 -9 VISIBLE
..AGRA--India 27.2 77.9 +5 269 18:25 19:29 36: 1 +17+14 -10 VISIBLE
..PESHAWR-Pks 33.6 71.4 +5 255 18:59 20: 1 36: 35 +18+13 -12 VISIBLE
..BUKHRA-Uzbk 39.6 64.6 +4 237 18:35 19:36 37: 11 +18+11 -14 VISIBLE
..TEHRAN-Iran 35.7 51.4 +3 218 18:22 19:25 37: 58 +18+13 -13 VISIBLE
($) = Indicates slight probablity of sighting with optical aids.
(#) = May be visible on Previous Evening, with Difficulty.
(@) = May NOT be visible even on Next Evening.
(*) = Moonset BEFORE Sunset (Obviously IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE)
(<) = Actual Topocentric Altitude of the Moon is LESS THAN the
number
(This information is only for altitudes from 6 to 8 degrees)
[%] = Add 1 hr to event time, during summer DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME,
from nearly early April to nearly end of October, in the Northern
Hemisphere,
from nearly early October to nearly early March, in the Southern
Hemisphere.
Dr.Mohib.N.Durrani
North American Coordinator for Astronomical Information,
Consultant to:
Islamic Society of North America (ISNA)
Islamic Fiqh Council of North America
Look for the HILAL (Crescent Moon) -------> )
It is one of the Most BEAUTIFUL of Creations -------> )
Then offer an INTENSE PRAYER to the ONE CREATOR, OF
-------> )
Surely, ALL SINCERE PRAYERS ARE ACCEPTED -------> )
Homepage: http://www.Hilal-Sighting.Com -------> )
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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| Title: Re: *** HILAL (Crescent Moon) SIGHTING 16/17 Mon/Tue AUG 2004, RAJAB1425 AH *** |
18 Aug 2004 11:23:30 AM |
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"Dr. Mohib. N. Durrani" wrote:
Bismillah hir-Rahman nir-Rahim
(In the name of ALLAH, THE MOST BENEFICENT, THE MOST MERCIFUL)
Dr. Mohib. N. DURRANI, mnd0@columbia.edu, Copyright (c) 2003
Homepage: http://www.Hilal-Sighting.Com
SUBJECT: CRESCENT MOON: FIRST VISIBILITY (every lunar month)
**************************************************************
ISLAMIC Year and Month 1425 AH Rajab [7th Islamic Month]
[snip]
Notice to dune coons, sand niggers, ragheads, and camel jockies:
American footprints are all over your lunar demigod, plus three
American flags, three corner cube retroreflector arrays, three
landing vehicles... and even two USSR corner cube retroreflector
arrays from Luna 17 and 21.
Pookie pookie.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "Jonathan Silverlight" |
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| Title: Re: *** HILAL (Crescent Moon) SIGHTING 16/17 Mon/Tue AUG 2004, RAJAB 1425 AH *** |
18 Aug 2004 04:19:28 PM |
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In message <41238282.D180ECDE@hate.spam.net>, Uncle Al
<UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> writes
Offensive remarks snipped.
Thanks for reminding me why you're in my kill file
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| User: "Michael Richmann" |
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| Title: Re: *** HILAL (Crescent Moon) SIGHTING 16/17 Mon/Tue AUG 2004, RAJAB 1425 AH *** |
19 Aug 2004 12:28:40 AM |
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In article <fa9XF4Dgf8IBFwd$@merseia.fsnet.co.uk>, jsilverlight@spam.merseia.fsnet.co.uk.invalid wrote:
In message <41238282.D180ECDE@hate.spam.net>, Uncle Al
<UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> writes
Offensive remarks snipped.
Thanks for reminding me why you're in my kill file
Better get a better kill file then, since the one you have doesn't seem to
work...
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| User: "Igor" |
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| Title: Re: *** HILAL (Crescent Moon) SIGHTING 16/17 Mon/Tue AUG 2004, RAJAB 1425 AH *** |
19 Aug 2004 01:28:51 PM |
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Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message news:<41238282.D180ECDE@hate.spam.net>...
"Dr. Mohib. N. Durrani" wrote:
Bismillah hir-Rahman nir-Rahim
(In the name of ALLAH, THE MOST BENEFICENT, THE MOST MERCIFUL)
Dr. Mohib. N. DURRANI, mnd0@columbia.edu, Copyright (c) 2003
Homepage: http://www.Hilal-Sighting.Com
SUBJECT: CRESCENT MOON: FIRST VISIBILITY (every lunar month)
**************************************************************
ISLAMIC Year and Month 1425 AH Rajab [7th Islamic Month]
[snip]
Notice to dune coons, sand niggers, ragheads, and camel jockies:
American footprints are all over your lunar demigod, plus three
American flags, three corner cube retroreflector arrays, three
landing vehicles... and even two USSR corner cube retroreflector
arrays from Luna 17 and 21.
Pookie pookie.
Shouldn't those read six rather than three?
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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| Title: Re: *** HILAL (Crescent Moon) SIGHTING 16/17 Mon/Tue AUG 2004, RAJAB1425 AH *** |
19 Aug 2004 02:10:47 PM |
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Igor wrote:
Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message news:<41238282.D180ECDE@hate.spam.net>...
"Dr. Mohib. N. Durrani" wrote:
Bismillah hir-Rahman nir-Rahim
(In the name of ALLAH, THE MOST BENEFICENT, THE MOST MERCIFUL)
Dr. Mohib. N. DURRANI, mnd0@columbia.edu, Copyright (c) 2003
Homepage: http://www.Hilal-Sighting.Com
SUBJECT: CRESCENT MOON: FIRST VISIBILITY (every lunar month)
**************************************************************
ISLAMIC Year and Month 1425 AH Rajab [7th Islamic Month]
[snip]
Notice to dune coons, sand niggers, ragheads, and camel jockies:
American footprints are all over your lunar demigod, plus three
American flags, three corner cube retroreflector arrays, three
landing vehicles... and even two USSR corner cube retroreflector
arrays from Luna 17 and 21.
Pookie pookie.
Shouldn't those read six rather than three?
Six landings, three retroreflectors. Double the number of
footprints and flags; add vehicle tracks and overnight parking
(the E*L*E*C*T*R*I*C lunar rover that required an impromptu
repair on site).
http://www.inconstantmoon.com/map_near_apol.htm
"8^>)
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "Guy Gordon" |
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| Title: Re: *** HILAL (Crescent Moon) SIGHTING 16/17 Mon/Tue AUG 2004, RAJAB 1425 AH *** |
22 Aug 2004 03:52:02 AM |
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Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote:
Six landings, three retroreflectors. Double the number of
footprints and flags; add vehicle tracks and overnight parking
(the E*L*E*C*T*R*I*C lunar rover that required an impromptu
repair on site).
http://www.inconstantmoon.com/map_near_apol.htm
Hey Uncle Al;
What are the chances of a home/school level experiment being able to
detect a bounce off one of those?
Make a hell of a science fair project. :-)
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| User: "lal_truckee" |
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| Title: Re: *** HILAL (Crescent Moon) SIGHTING 16/17 Mon/Tue AUG 2004, RAJAB1425 AH *** |
18 Aug 2004 04:57:47 PM |
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Uncle Al wrote:
American footprints are all over your lunar demigod, plus three
American flags, three corner cube retroreflector arrays, three
landing vehicles...
Apparently Uncle Al can't count.
Wonder why he thinks his other observations are worth posting?
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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| Title: Re: *** HILAL (Crescent Moon) SIGHTING 16/17 Mon/Tue AUG 2004, RAJAB1425AH *** |
18 Aug 2004 06:50:13 PM |
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lal_truckee wrote:
Uncle Al wrote:
American footprints are all over your lunar demigod, plus three
American flags, three corner cube retroreflector arrays, three
landing vehicles...
Apparently Uncle Al can't count.
Wonder why he thinks his other observations are worth posting?
You've got a big mouth, now let's see something of value out of
it -
<http://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/pdf/prl83-3585.pdf>
http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0301024
If you don't like my numbers, provide referenced numbers of your
own, idiot.
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/expmoon/Apollo11/A11_Experiments_LRRR.html
Apollo 11
http://www.apolloexplorer.co.uk/photo/html/as14/10075619.htm
Apollo 14
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/expmoon/Apollo15/A15_Experiments_LRRR.html
Apollo 15
Apollo 16 was heavy on selenomagnetics and did not leave a
retroreflector array.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "Robert J. Kolker" |
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| Title: Re: *** HILAL (Crescent Moon) SIGHTING 16/17 Mon/Tue AUG 2004, RAJAB1425 AH *** |
18 Aug 2004 10:48:58 AM |
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Dr. Mohib. N. Durrani wrote:
Bismillah hir-Rahman nir-Rahim
(In the name of ALLAH, THE MOST BENEFICENT, THE MOST MERCIFUL)
Dr. Mohib. N. DURRANI, mnd0@columbia.edu, Copyright (c) 2003
Homepage: http://www.Hilal-Sighting.Com
Behold the Wog! Different God. Different Mountain.
Bob Kolker
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| User: "Tony Turner" |
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| Title: Re: *** HILAL (Crescent Moon) SIGHTING 16/17 Mon/Tue AUG 2004, RAJAB1425 AH *** |
18 Aug 2004 03:48:12 PM |
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Behold the Wog! Different God. Different Mountain.
Bob Kolker
It is unwise to mock those who are sworn to kill unbelievers.
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| User: "Robert J. Kolker" |
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| Title: Re: *** HILAL (Crescent Moon) SIGHTING 16/17 Mon/Tue AUG 2004, RAJAB1425AH *** |
18 Aug 2004 04:43:13 PM |
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Tony Turner wrote:
Behold the Wog! Different God. Different Mountain.
Bob Kolker
It is unwise to mock those who are sworn to kill unbelievers.
Bring it on! The sooner the better. We will eventually have to wipe them
out, you know.
Bob Kolker
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| User: "Greg Crinklaw" |
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| Title: Re: *** HILAL (Crescent Moon) SIGHTING 16/17 Mon/Tue AUG 2004, RAJAB1425 AH *** |
18 Aug 2004 11:53:33 AM |
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Robert J. Kolker wrote:
Dr. Mohib. N. Durrani wrote:
Bismillah hir-Rahman nir-Rahim
(In the name of ALLAH, THE MOST BENEFICENT, THE MOST MERCIFUL)
Dr. Mohib. N. DURRANI, mnd0@columbia.edu, Copyright (c) 2003
Homepage: http://www.Hilal-Sighting.Com
Behold the Wog! Different God. Different Mountain.
Bob Kolker
From the dictionary:
Wog: Used as a disparaging term for a person of color, especially a
person from northern Africa or western or southern Asia.
or
an offensive slang term used by the British to refer to people of color
from Africa or Asia
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| User: "hanson" |
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| Title: Re: *** HILAL (Crescent Moon) SIGHTING 16/17 Mon/Tue AUG 2004, RAJAB 1425 AH *** |
18 Aug 2004 02:21:30 PM |
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"Greg Crinklaw" <capellasoftyourspleen@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10i72c95hm4u931@corp.supernews.com...
Robert J. Kolker wrote:
Dr. Mohib. N. Durrani wrote:
Bismillah hir-Rahman nir-Rahim
(In the name of ALLAH, THE MOST BENEFICENT, THE MOST MERCIFUL)
Dr. Mohib. N. DURRANI, mnd0@columbia.edu, Copyright (c) 2003
Homepage: http://www.Hilal-Sighting.Com
Behold the Wog! Different God. Different Mountain.
Bob Kolker
[Greg]
From the dictionary:
Wog: Used as a disparaging term for a person of color, especially a
person from northern Africa or western or southern Asia.
or
an offensive slang term used by the British to refer to people of color
from Africa or Asia
[hanson]
...............ahahahaha.........ahahahaha.....AHAHAHAHA.....
(1) May that be as is, but the way Kolker puts it is priceless.....AHAHAHAHA...
(1) So, you are a very sensitive person. But that doesn't impress
neither side. They wanna see each other dead by the hundreds of Millions
"as can be seen" (plagiarized from Tom-Tom CrackPotter) in the following
highly intellectual post:
"Powercomm" <powercomm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:73c067e8.0408161057.2794302d@posting.google.com...
Pain Devine wrote:
The only solution is to nuke the entire middle east and
then send in our oil crews in Radiation suits.
Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:<411FC9AB.E678C587@hate.spam.net>...
Airbusts; no ground contamination. Let's see how
much appetite for martyrdon Islam can swallow,.
One MIRVed missile
Cairo, Egypt 7,764,700
Tehran, Iran 7,722,900
Baghdad, Iraq 4,948,300
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia 3,627,700
Jiddah, Saudi Arabia 2,674,000
Mashhad, Iran 2,040,700
Aleppo (Halab), Syria 1,891,900
Damascus, Syria 1,803,700
Sana'a, Yemen 1,653,300
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Wake up call 34,127,200
Or do it right and get it over with,
1 missile submarine
20 ICBMs
100 MIRV'd warheads, minimum
330 kt nuclear equivalent each
100 Arab cities vitrified
100 million Arabs dead
No more Afghanistan, Iran, and Iraq.
No problem.
Hey Allah, wanna play martyr hardball with the United States?
"Find out who they are.
Kill them all.
Kill their wives.
Kill their children.
Kill their parents.
Kill their friends.
Kill their neighbors.
Kill their animals.
Salt the earth where they lived.
Mount their heads on pikes on the steps of the Capitol."
- Ted Morris, 12 September 2001
[Mehram Maleki]
I see that you're not "ignorant." You're "stupid."
Don't complicate matters needlessly you ZioNazi little
USraeli. And make sure to ask for a gulp of semen at
your dentist's office:
http://www.click2houston.com/news/3577698/detail.html
---
Israel is a "state" in the way that a porn-star is "actress."
"Maleki"
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18 Aug 2004 02:36:57 PM |
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hanson wrote:
..............ahahahaha.........ahahahaha.....AHAHAHAHA.....
(1) May that be as is, but the way Kolker puts it is priceless.....AHAHAHAHA...
(1) So, you are a very sensitive person. But that doesn't impress
neither side.
If you think morality is something to be dismissed with laughter then
you are part of the problem.
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| User: "hanson" |
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18 Aug 2004 10:03:46 PM |
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"Greg Crinklaw" <capellasoftyourspleen@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10i7bujcmvpajab@corp.supernews.com...
hanson wrote:
..............ahahahaha.........ahahahaha.....AHAHAHAHA.....
(1) May that be as is, but the way Kolker puts it is
priceless.....AHAHAHAHA...
(1) So, you are a very sensitive person. But that doesn't impress
neither side.
If you think morality is something to be dismissed with laughter then
you are part of the problem.
ahahahaha.........should THAT impress me?.........ahahahaha.....
morality........Morality......MORALITY???...........whose morality?
Bob Kolker's, Al Schwartz's, Devine's, Maleki's, the Wogs'? .....
......besides, noboby here is talking about morality except you,
like a instigating Tom-Tom CrackPotter clone .....ahaha.......
to whom will apply that "the poster makes a good point"
(Plagiarized from Tom-Tom CrackPotter) because he illustrates
that "it is interesting to see" (Plagiarized from Tom-Tom CrackPotter)
that it is ALWAYS the self-righteous, self-aggrandizing and
self-anointed, moralistic, moralizing turds, be they philosophical,
political or religious, like you, who are the elemental ur-cause of/for
any & all inhumanity & cruelty of man against man........and if you
object to laughter then YOU are a catalyst that worsens the curse
you whine about even more then you give yourself credit for,
"as can be seen" (Plagiarized from Tom-Tom CrackPotter) in your post ..........
AHAHAHAHAHAHHA.....ahahahaha......ahahahaha........ahahahanson,
the bonvivant and commentator on all walks of life, to whom there is
nothing sacred........ahahahahanson
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| User: "Mohammed Farooq" |
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22 Aug 2004 08:57:30 AM |
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Greg Crinklaw <capellasoftyourspleen@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<10i72c95hm4u931@corp.supernews.com>...
Robert J. Kolker wrote:
Dr. Mohib. N. Durrani wrote:
Bismillah hir-Rahman nir-Rahim
(In the name of ALLAH, THE MOST BENEFICENT, THE MOST MERCIFUL)
Dr. Mohib. N. DURRANI, mnd0@columbia.edu, Copyright (c) 2003
Homepage: http://www.Hilal-Sighting.Com
Behold the Wog! Different God. Different Mountain.
Bob Kolker
From the dictionary:
Wog: Used as a disparaging term for a person of color, especially a
person from northern Africa or western or southern Asia.
or
an offensive slang term used by the British to refer to people of color
from Africa or Asia
Kolker's case reminds one of the Aesop's fables -"The crow and the
peacock", when his forefathers were thrown out of Eastern Europe and
settled and naturalized in US, the treatment meted out here set a
sadistic and abnormal trait in his genes...the story continues.
The cause of Alan Schwartz's violent behaviour is unknown, perhaps
some childhood bitter experiences or it is the effect of overexposure
to organic chemicals? In a study by Shelia et al "A Retrospective
Cohort Study of Disability Among Chemists," JOURNAL OF OCCUPATIONAL
MEDICINE Vol. 23 (July 1981), pgs. 495-501 (further details are
online), showed that DuPont workers showed a slight increase in
disability claims for mental disorders (neuroses, depression, and
alcoholism), compared to non-chemists; the chemists in DuPont's
chemical research-and-development department had a three-fold increase
in disability claims for mental disorders. This study also revealed an
excessive suicide rate among chemists.
Perhaps very very few chemists tend to have irrational, obssessive,
violent behaviour due to chemicals, what happened to him, is there any
interesting anecdote behind it?
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| User: "Mark W. Lund, PhD" |
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19 Aug 2004 09:43:43 AM |
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Every month this is posted and every month we go through
the same ritual of mouth frothing ignorance.
I see nothing offensive in Hilal posts, in fact years ago
I used to join with other amateur astronomers to keep track of the
earliest appearance of the crescent moon.
Give it up and use this opportunity to both learn a little
astronomy and a little tolerance at the same time!
love
uncle mark
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| User: "West Coast Engineering" |
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19 Aug 2004 05:34:22 PM |
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"Mark W. Lund, PhD" <mlund@powerstream.com> wrote:
Every month this is posted and every month we go through
the same ritual of mouth frothing ignorance.
I see nothing offensive in Hilal posts, in fact years ago
I used to join with other amateur astronomers to keep track of the
earliest appearance of the crescent moon.
Give it up and use this opportunity to both learn a little
astronomy and a little tolerance at the same time!
love
uncle mark
Hi Mark,
I think that some of the resentment we see here (and I've contributed
to it in spades in earlier posts) is the same kind of resentment that
we feel when:
1. Catholics tell the rest of the world they are evil for not
believing in the infallibility of the Pope and that birth control is a
Mortal Sin and the same as first degree murder.
2. Jehovah's Witnesses ring the door bell every darn week even after
we let the house watch dog bark at them at close range.
3. Young missionaries on their bikes with the short sleaved white
shirts, ties and dark pants and their book of ( ) try save us
from ourselves.
Etc. with no possible end.....
Top that off with the fact that on September 12, 2001, we found out
there were "tolerant" muslims who loved their brother Christians and
Jews and who would never do anything in the least bit offensive toward
their "infidel" fellow human beings.
No one likes "in your face believers" religious or not. God knows, I
don't care if my fellow man believes that God is the bloody Easter
Bunny but when some of his fellow believers start blowing stuff up
because other people laugh at the Easter Bunny it gets harder to be
nice.
Mohib Durani is a poor demented believer. He may be totally harmless.
Then again his postings may be like the radio message circa June 6,
1944 "The clouds roll on the hill" which translated to "blow up the RR
bridge leading to Dog Green Sector, Omaha Beach". My guess is he is a
harmless pain in the butt but his actions tend to gather other angry
elements of more extreme views.
I doubt that a Munich type Beer Hall or a Japanese Tea Garden would
have been a really great bumpiness plan in 9143 San Diego. It would
have been insensative in the extreme. It would have been more than in
"bad taste". A North Korean fast food shop would have been a big "NO"
in South Korea in 1952.
I no longer beat on old Mohib, because it seems to do no good. I have
already sent messages to various US GOV agencies suggesting they check
him out. Since he is still at it, I figure he is either under
surveillance or he is harmless or the Gov has not got to him yet.
Either way, Uncle Al seems to even say things I am afraid to put into
print.
Sincerely,
Your Friend,
Jim Klein
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| User: "John Savard" |
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21 Aug 2004 11:17:22 AM |
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 22:34:22 GMT, West Coast Engineering
<westcoastengineering@westcoastengineering.com> wrote, in part:
Then again his postings may be like the radio message circa June 6,
1944 "The clouds roll on the hill"
So could any other USENET postings by any Muslim... and, of course, he has been
up to this for a long time.
John Savard
http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html
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| User: "DB" |
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21 Aug 2004 11:42:21 AM |
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I wouldn't read anything sinister into his posts. Muslims worldwide use the
info for some of their religious observances, much like Jews use the
official time of sunset (specially on Fridays) for theirs.
Damian
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| User: "Tom McDonald" |
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21 Aug 2004 12:55:14 PM |
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John Savard wrote:
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 22:34:22 GMT, West Coast Engineering
<westcoastengineering@westcoastengineering.com> wrote, in part:
Then again his postings may be like the radio message circa June 6,
1944 "The clouds roll on the hill"
So could any other USENET postings by any Muslim... and, of course, he has been
up to this for a long time.
So could any other USENET poster, period. Given the paranoia
afoot these days, a non-Muslim radical would likely find this
type of posting a good ruse, putting the first suspicion on some
group of Islamic people.
That said, I fully agree that these postings are a great
service to Muslims, and as noted, also to many astronomers.
--
Tom McDonald
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| User: "guid0" |
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19 Aug 2004 10:07:15 PM |
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 22:34:22 GMT, West Coast Engineering
<westcoastengineering@westcoastengineering.com> wrote:
I no longer beat on old Mohib, because it seems to do no good. I have
already sent messages to various US GOV agencies suggesting they check
him out. Since he is still at it, I figure he is either under
surveillance or he is harmless or the Gov has not got to him yet.
The US Government? Man, Paranoia seems to have no limits. Contacting
his ISP for the crossposting, maybe, but the feds?
Dr.Durrani provides a very useful service to astronomers and follows a
centuries-old tradition among arab scientists.
Are you going to rename Aldebarran "freedom star" now? ; )
Jim, maybe you should try and catch a first crescent on some clear
night. You'll see that there is a more universal dimension to Islam in
the contemplation of beauty and the search for inner peace.
G../0
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| User: "West Coast Engineering" |
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19 Aug 2004 05:36:43 PM |
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Typo, 1943.
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| User: "starlord" |
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19 Aug 2004 10:22:41 AM |
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Mark, I to use the post just to see what the first point in time I can see
the moon, and I also noted that this month the post was late getting into my
ISP server as I saw the early moon before the post showed up.
--
"And for the second time in four million years, the monolith awoke."
Arthur C.Clarke 2062:odyssey three
SIAR
www.starlords.org
Blast Off Cybershop
http://www.cafeshops.com/starlords
In the Garden Gift Shop
http://www.cafeshops.com/InGarden
Astronomy-net shop
http://www.cafeshops.com/Astronomy_net
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
"Mark W. Lund, PhD" <mlund@powerstream.com> wrote in message
news:4124c277$1@news.mcleodusa.net...
Every month this is posted and every month we go through
the same ritual of mouth frothing ignorance.
I see nothing offensive in Hilal posts, in fact years ago
I used to join with other amateur astronomers to keep track of the
earliest appearance of the crescent moon.
Give it up and use this opportunity to both learn a little
astronomy and a little tolerance at the same time!
love
uncle mark
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| User: "Repeating Rifle" |
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19 Aug 2004 11:05:40 AM |
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in article 4124c277$1@news.mcleodusa.net, Mark W. Lund, PhD at
mlund@powerstream.com wrote on 8/19/04 7:43 AM:
Every month this is posted and every month we go through
the same ritual of mouth frothing ignorance.
I see nothing offensive in Hilal posts, in fact years ago
I used to join with other amateur astronomers to keep track of the
earliest appearance of the crescent moon.
Give it up and use this opportunity to both learn a little
astronomy and a little tolerance at the same time!
love
uncle mark
I nominate someone to post fake HILAL sightings based upon calculated values
plus errors.
Bill
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| User: "West Coast Engineering" |
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18 Aug 2004 07:48:27 AM |
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Hi,
I'll start this OT response. Hey Uncle Al, you take it from here.
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| User: "dt king" |
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18 Aug 2004 07:55:04 AM |
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"West Coast Engineering" <westcoastengineering@westcoastengineering.com>
wrote in message news:muj6i0hs2v9u5l58ds5muan9n0loijo6v8@4ax.com...
Hi,
I'll start this OT response. Hey Uncle Al, you take it from here.
Hi! Frequent listener, first time caller here....
I'd just like to comment that my first ephemeris when I was a kid was
published by the Rosicrucians. It seemed to work fine all year.
dtk
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