Science > Physics > !! New scientific analysis proves WTC Demolition !!
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"Henry" |
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17 May 2007 09:43:40 AM |
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!! New scientific analysis proves WTC Demolition !! |
The free fall speed of the collapses, the near perfect symmetry,
the multiple, synchronized explosions, and the flowing, molten
metal observed deep in the rubble of all three WTC demolition sites
is all the proof a clear thinking person needs to conclude that the
towers ans WTC7 were demolished, but here is still more conclusive
proof for the severely brainwashed, and those who have difficulty
grasping basic concepts involving physics, mechanics, and logic.
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf
All comments are welcome, whether they are the hysterical,
nonsensical, knee jerk rants of magic fire conspiracy kooks,
or the thoughtful observations of reasonable people based
on the findings in Dr. Jones' paper.
--
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
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| User: "Henry" |
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30 May 2007 06:57:26 PM |
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Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
Uhh....no. There are some **mechanical** engineers with models
that say the towers shouldn't have collapsed.
There are many experts who correctly show that the collapses
violate the laws of physics without controlled demolition. There
are none who can explain how fires caused the massive undamaged
frames to suddently disintegrate at virtual free fall speed and
perfect symmetry.Henry Hansteen wrote:
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http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org
Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
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| Title: Re: !! New scientific analysis proves WTC Demolition !! |
22 May 2007 09:11:49 AM |
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On Tue, 22 May 2007 23:53:26 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
... Al Queada ...
You've misspelled "CIA".
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| User: "Charles" |
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19 May 2007 02:50:23 AM |
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On Sat, 19 May 2007 15:48:53 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:
"Henry" <9/11@insidejob.gov> wrote in message
news:464E43A0.7274EAD3@insidejob.gov...
David wrote:
It is scary how perfectly sane people can believe this. This takes
conspiracy theories to a whole new level.
Indeed. They seem to accept, on blind faith in
a known liar, that the laws of physics were suspended
on 9-11-01, and that NORAD was shut down by some guy
living in a cave thousands of miles away. Kooky conspiracy
theories don't get much wilder than that. That's why
the conspiracy kooks can't address the facts. The best
the can manage is to "attack" the messengers and act like
frustrated children during kindergarten recess. <chuckle>
Did you notice that not one of these brainwashed Bush
parroting conspiracy kooks has addressed the =any= of
the hard evidence presented in Dr. Jones' paper? As
predicted....
[.....]
Henry, for the sake of the exercise, I'll assume that you are of sound
intellect and not a crackpot.
That would be your first mistake - and an exercise in utter futility!!
Mr silly Hankyturdsteen is a rabid loon who at best should be
sectioned under The Mental Health Act, and at worst should be
incarcerated for sedition and other treasonable offences.
Over the years that I have observed the sick *****, he has pursued so
many similar anti-government obsessions, that it is just impossible to
take the dopey bugger in any way seriously.
Like most mentally ill people, he thinks that the rest of us are
wrong, ill-informed and not his intellectual equal. Of course he does
wear a bespoke tin-foil hat!
Have a great weekend Oz - I am! ;o)
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| User: "David" |
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| Title: Re: !! New scientific analysis proves WTC Demolition !! |
19 May 2007 03:50:22 AM |
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"Charles" <jrh@msn.com> wrote in message
news:ot9t43dsi12j93d2c2egst93qojufe0pci@4ax.com...
On Sat, 19 May 2007 15:48:53 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:
"Henry" <9/11@insidejob.gov> wrote in message
news:464E43A0.7274EAD3@insidejob.gov...
David wrote:
It is scary how perfectly sane people can believe this. This takes
conspiracy theories to a whole new level.
Indeed. They seem to accept, on blind faith in
a known liar, that the laws of physics were suspended
on 9-11-01, and that NORAD was shut down by some guy
living in a cave thousands of miles away. Kooky conspiracy
theories don't get much wilder than that. That's why
the conspiracy kooks can't address the facts. The best
the can manage is to "attack" the messengers and act like
frustrated children during kindergarten recess. <chuckle>
Did you notice that not one of these brainwashed Bush
parroting conspiracy kooks has addressed the =any= of
the hard evidence presented in Dr. Jones' paper? As
predicted....
[.....]
Henry, for the sake of the exercise, I'll assume that you are of sound
intellect and not a crackpot.
That would be your first mistake - and an exercise in utter futility!!
Mr silly Hankyturdsteen is a rabid loon who at best should be
sectioned under The Mental Health Act, and at worst should be
incarcerated for sedition and other treasonable offences.
Over the years that I have observed the sick *****, he has pursued so
many similar anti-government obsessions, that it is just impossible to
take the dopey bugger in any way seriously.
Like most mentally ill people, he thinks that the rest of us are
wrong, ill-informed and not his intellectual equal. Of course he does
wear a bespoke tin-foil hat!
Have a great weekend Oz - I am! ;o)
Ok, I will have to take your word for it. However, were he to be
incarcerated for sedition, would he end up in perdition?
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| User: "Henry" |
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22 May 2007 08:38:46 AM |
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David wrote:
Ok, I will have to take your word for it. However, were he to be
incarcerated for sedition, would he end up in perdition?
Silly conspiracyc kook avoidacne of facts and drivel
spewing. Here, try to address or refute the science.
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf
--
http://911research.wtc7.net/
http://www.st911.org
http://www.911proof.com/
"The new America, born in sin and arrogance, delusional
in Manifest Destiny, bred in overabundant gluttony,
consumerist and materialist, fathered by George W. Bush,
***** Cheney and the Cabal of Criminality, a country flocked
by sheeple, ignorant and conditioned, indifferent to a world
growing up around it, living delusions of empire and of
omnipotence, building hatred against it and its policies
throughout the planet, slowly dumbing down its citizens,
losing its edge in the sciences and arts, producing a nation
of acquiescent automatons brainwashed to never question
authority and always faithfully follow the crimes of governance."
- Manuel Valenzuela
"You're doin' a heckuva job, Brownie!" - bu$h, a few days
before his FEMA chief, Micheal Brown was forced to resign
because of his gross incomptence.
"The tools that enable Cuba to save lives and preserve
human dignity during hurricanes are socialist values
and organization." - Dr. W.T. Whitney Jr
Ever wonder who benefits from the 200 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent EACH DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own war crimes in Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
-- George W. Bush
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
-- Adolf Hitler
"Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
-Albert Nurick, a usenet kook, on the rape, torture and murder
at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
(http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm)
George W. Bush: "Intelligence gathered by this and other
governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues
to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever
devised." March 17, 2003.
http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com
http://responsiblewealth.org/
http://globalresearch.ca/
http://www.wsws.org/
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"You know, when bu$h said that he's against nation building,
I didn't realize that he meant only the United States"
-- Al Franken
Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
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| User: "Charles" |
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19 May 2007 04:43:40 AM |
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On Sat, 19 May 2007 18:50:22 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:
"Charles" <jrh@msn.com> wrote in message
news:ot9t43dsi12j93d2c2egst93qojufe0pci@4ax.com...
On Sat, 19 May 2007 15:48:53 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:
"Henry" <9/11@insidejob.gov> wrote in message
news:464E43A0.7274EAD3@insidejob.gov...
David wrote:
It is scary how perfectly sane people can believe this. This takes
conspiracy theories to a whole new level.
Indeed. They seem to accept, on blind faith in
a known liar, that the laws of physics were suspended
on 9-11-01, and that NORAD was shut down by some guy
living in a cave thousands of miles away. Kooky conspiracy
theories don't get much wilder than that. That's why
the conspiracy kooks can't address the facts. The best
the can manage is to "attack" the messengers and act like
frustrated children during kindergarten recess. <chuckle>
Did you notice that not one of these brainwashed Bush
parroting conspiracy kooks has addressed the =any= of
the hard evidence presented in Dr. Jones' paper? As
predicted....
[.....]
Henry, for the sake of the exercise, I'll assume that you are of sound
intellect and not a crackpot.
That would be your first mistake - and an exercise in utter futility!!
Mr silly Hankyturdsteen is a rabid loon who at best should be
sectioned under The Mental Health Act, and at worst should be
incarcerated for sedition and other treasonable offences.
Over the years that I have observed the sick *****, he has pursued so
many similar anti-government obsessions, that it is just impossible to
take the dopey bugger in any way seriously.
Like most mentally ill people, he thinks that the rest of us are
wrong, ill-informed and not his intellectual equal. Of course he does
wear a bespoke tin-foil hat!
Have a great weekend Oz - I am! ;o)
Ok, I will have to take your word for it. However, were he to be
incarcerated for sedition, would he end up in perdition?
Notwithstanding the religious connotations here, which is another
topic with enormous potential for strife, who really gives a *****? ;o)
HAGW!
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| User: "David" |
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19 May 2007 05:44:28 AM |
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"Charles" <jrh@msn.com> wrote in message
news:gfht43tbqlk20smhfupn2vsti1nncv7coc@4ax.com...
On Sat, 19 May 2007 18:50:22 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:
"Charles" <jrh@msn.com> wrote in message
news:ot9t43dsi12j93d2c2egst93qojufe0pci@4ax.com...
On Sat, 19 May 2007 15:48:53 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:
"Henry" <9/11@insidejob.gov> wrote in message
news:464E43A0.7274EAD3@insidejob.gov...
David wrote:
It is scary how perfectly sane people can believe this. This takes
conspiracy theories to a whole new level.
Indeed. They seem to accept, on blind faith in
a known liar, that the laws of physics were suspended
on 9-11-01, and that NORAD was shut down by some guy
living in a cave thousands of miles away. Kooky conspiracy
theories don't get much wilder than that. That's why
the conspiracy kooks can't address the facts. The best
the can manage is to "attack" the messengers and act like
frustrated children during kindergarten recess. <chuckle>
Did you notice that not one of these brainwashed Bush
parroting conspiracy kooks has addressed the =any= of
the hard evidence presented in Dr. Jones' paper? As
predicted....
[.....]
Henry, for the sake of the exercise, I'll assume that you are of sound
intellect and not a crackpot.
That would be your first mistake - and an exercise in utter futility!!
Mr silly Hankyturdsteen is a rabid loon who at best should be
sectioned under The Mental Health Act, and at worst should be
incarcerated for sedition and other treasonable offences.
Over the years that I have observed the sick *****, he has pursued so
many similar anti-government obsessions, that it is just impossible to
take the dopey bugger in any way seriously.
Like most mentally ill people, he thinks that the rest of us are
wrong, ill-informed and not his intellectual equal. Of course he does
wear a bespoke tin-foil hat!
Have a great weekend Oz - I am! ;o)
Ok, I will have to take your word for it. However, were he to be
incarcerated for sedition, would he end up in perdition?
Notwithstanding the religious connotations here, which is another
topic with enormous potential for strife, who really gives a *****? ;o)
I get the impression you don't care much for Henry.
HAGW!
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| User: "Henry" |
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22 May 2007 08:37:12 AM |
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Charles wrote:
Like most mentally ill people, he thinks that the rest of us are
wrong, ill-informed and not his intellectual equal.
Not the rest of us, kooker. Only those who mindlessly parrot
the Bush regime's comical conspiracy theory on blind faith
and ignorance while hiding and cowering from any and all
challenges to address the facts. You demonstrate that rather
well. <chuckle>
<link restored>
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf
--
http://911research.wtc7.net/
http://www.st911.org
http://www.911proof.com/
"The new America, born in sin and arrogance, delusional
in Manifest Destiny, bred in overabundant gluttony,
consumerist and materialist, fathered by George W. Bush,
***** Cheney and the Cabal of Criminality, a country flocked
by sheeple, ignorant and conditioned, indifferent to a world
growing up around it, living delusions of empire and of
omnipotence, building hatred against it and its policies
throughout the planet, slowly dumbing down its citizens,
losing its edge in the sciences and arts, producing a nation
of acquiescent automatons brainwashed to never question
authority and always faithfully follow the crimes of governance."
- Manuel Valenzuela
"You're doin' a heckuva job, Brownie!" - bu$h, a few days
before his FEMA chief, Micheal Brown was forced to resign
because of his gross incomptence.
"The tools that enable Cuba to save lives and preserve
human dignity during hurricanes are socialist values
and organization." - Dr. W.T. Whitney Jr
Ever wonder who benefits from the 200 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent EACH DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own war crimes in Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
-- George W. Bush
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
-- Adolf Hitler
"Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
-Albert Nurick, a usenet kook, on the rape, torture and murder
at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
(http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm)
George W. Bush: "Intelligence gathered by this and other
governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues
to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever
devised." March 17, 2003.
http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com
http://responsiblewealth.org/
http://globalresearch.ca/
http://www.wsws.org/
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"You know, when bu$h said that he's against nation building,
I didn't realize that he meant only the United States"
-- Al Franken
Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
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| User: "The_Man" |
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| Title: Re: !! New scientific analysis proves WTC Demolition !! |
17 May 2007 01:24:29 PM |
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On May 17, 1:50 pm, Bill Snyder <bsny...@airmail.net> wrote:
On Fri, 18 May 2007 03:40:00 +1000, "David" <forgot...@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:
"Henry" <9...@insidejob.gov> wrote in message
news:464C6A1C.69037AA4@insidejob.gov...
The free fall speed of the collapses, the near perfect symmetry,
the multiple, synchronized explosions, and the flowing, molten
metal observed deep in the rubble of all three WTC demolition sites
is all the proof a clear thinking person needs to conclude that the
towers ans WTC7 were demolished, but here is still more conclusive
proof for the severely brainwashed, and those who have difficulty
grasping basic concepts involving physics, mechanics, and logic.
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod...
All comments are welcome, whether they are the hysterical,
nonsensical, knee jerk rants of magic fire conspiracy kooks,
or the thoughtful observations of reasonable people based
on the findings in Dr. Jones' paper.
--
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
I can understand this theory and that the administration planned and
executed the destruction of the towers. But I can't figure out how they
engineered to have 19 Saudis hijack the 4 airlines simultaneously on the
same morning.
Obviously they kidnapped and murdered the real Saudis, replacing them
with their own suicide squads. Real stroke of luck for them that so
many of the victims turned out to have been taking flying lessons,
wasn't it?
Excuse me. On reflection, that wasn't nearly kooky enough to go into
this thread. They used mind-control rays on the Saudis, that's the
ticket.
And they "psychically" knew exactly WHERE the Saudis and Egyptians
were going with the planes, and exactly when. And the Egyptians
managed to inflict horrific damage on the towers, but without cutting
any other the electrical connections between the numerous alleged
explosive previously "stored" inside the building.
Did the Bush 43 administration blow up the Khobbar towers, too?
Did the Bush 43 administration blow up the USS Cole?
Did the BUsh 43 adminstration blow up the embassies in Kenya and
Tanzania?
Did the Bush 43 administration blow up the MArine barricks in Lebanon?
Did the Bush 43 administration blow up the plane over Lockerbie,
Scotland?
Did the Bush 43 administration hold the American hostages for 444 days
in Iran?
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| User: "Henry" |
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| Title: Re: !! New scientific analysis proves WTC Demolition !! |
18 May 2007 07:21:15 PM |
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The_Man wrote:
On May 17, 1:50 pm, Bill Snyder <bsny...@airmail.net> wrote:
"David" <forgot...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
"Henry" <9...@insidejob.gov> wrote in message
The free fall speed of the collapses, the near perfect symmetry,
the multiple, synchronized explosions, and the flowing, molten
metal observed deep in the rubble of all three WTC demolition sites
is all the proof a clear thinking person needs to conclude that the
towers ans WTC7 were demolished, but here is still more conclusive
proof for the severely brainwashed, and those who have difficulty
grasping basic concepts involving physics, mechanics, and logic.
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod...
All comments are welcome, whether they are the hysterical,
nonsensical, knee jerk rants of magic fire conspiracy kooks,
or the thoughtful observations of reasonable people based
on the findings in Dr. Jones' paper.
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org
Obviously they kidnapped and murdered the real Saudis, replacing them
with their own suicide squads. Real stroke of luck for them that so
many of the victims turned out to have been taking flying lessons,
wasn't it?
They used mind-control rays on the Saudis, that's the
ticket.
Mindless kook drivel and typical desperate avoidance of
facts..
And they "psychically" knew exactly WHERE the Saudis and Egyptians
were going with the planes, and exactly when. And the Egyptians
managed to inflict horrific damage on the towers, but without cutting
any other the electrical connections between the numerous alleged
explosive previously "stored" inside the building.
They didn't need to know exactly when or where the planes
would hit to demolish the buildings, and the charges were
most likely detonated by radio signal. No wires.
<link restored because we can't afford to let America and
freedom hating extremists or their misguided followers hide
the truth>
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf
--
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org
Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
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19 May 2007 10:41:51 AM |
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On May 18, 7:21 pm, Henry <9...@insidejob.gov> wrote:
The_Man wrote:
On May 17, 1:50 pm, Bill Snyder <bsny...@airmail.net> wrote:
"David" <forgot...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
"Henry" <9...@insidejob.gov> wrote in message
The free fall speed of the collapses, the near perfect symmetry,
the multiple, synchronized explosions, and the flowing, molten
metal observed deep in the rubble of all three WTC demolition sites
is all the proof a clear thinking person needs to conclude that the
towers ans WTC7 were demolished, but here is still more conclusive
proof for the severely brainwashed, and those who have difficulty
grasping basic concepts involving physics, mechanics, and logic.
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod...
All comments are welcome, whether they are the hysterical,
nonsensical, knee jerk rants of magic fire conspiracy kooks,
or the thoughtful observations of reasonable people based
on the findings in Dr. Jones' paper.
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org
Obviously they kidnapped and murdered the real Saudis, replacing them
with their own suicide squads. Real stroke of luck for them that so
many of the victims turned out to have been taking flying lessons,
wasn't it?
They used mind-control rays on the Saudis, that's the
ticket.
Mindless kook drivel and typical desperate avoidance of
facts..
And they "psychically" knew exactly WHERE the Saudis and Egyptians
were going with the planes, and exactly when. And the Egyptians
managed to inflict horrific damage on the towers, but without cutting
any other the electrical connections between the numerous alleged
explosive previously "stored" inside the building.
They didn't need to know exactly when or where the planes
would hit to demolish the buildings, and the charges were
most likely detonated by radio signal. No wires.
They *would* have to know which buildings the Saudis and the Egyptians
were going to aim the planes at, though, wouldn't they? It would have
been a tad awkward for the hijackers to hit one building, and the
government demolish a building five blocks away, wouldn't it?
PD
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| User: "Henry" |
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22 May 2007 08:42:12 AM |
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PD wrote:
On May 18, 7:21 pm, Henry <9...@insidejob.gov> wrote:
The_Man wrote:
On May 17, 1:50 pm, Bill Snyder <bsny...@airmail.net> wrote:
"David" <forgot...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
"Henry" <9...@insidejob.gov> wrote in message
The free fall speed of the collapses, the near perfect symmetry,
the multiple, synchronized explosions, and the flowing, molten
metal observed deep in the rubble of all three WTC demolition sites
is all the proof a clear thinking person needs to conclude that the
towers ans WTC7 were demolished, but here is still more conclusive
proof for the severely brainwashed, and those who have difficulty
grasping basic concepts involving physics, mechanics, and logic.
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod...
All comments are welcome, whether they are the hysterical,
nonsensical, knee jerk rants of magic fire conspiracy kooks,
or the thoughtful observations of reasonable people based
on the findings in Dr. Jones' paper.
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org
Obviously they kidnapped and murdered the real Saudis, replacing them
with their own suicide squads. Real stroke of luck for them that so
many of the victims turned out to have been taking flying lessons,
wasn't it?
They used mind-control rays on the Saudis, that's the
ticket.
Mindless kook drivel and typical desperate avoidance of
facts..
And they "psychically" knew exactly WHERE the Saudis and Egyptians
were going with the planes, and exactly when. And the Egyptians
managed to inflict horrific damage on the towers, but without cutting
any other the electrical connections between the numerous alleged
explosive previously "stored" inside the building.
They didn't need to know exactly when or where the planes
would hit to demolish the buildings, and the charges were
most likely detonated by radio signal. No wires.
They *would* have to know which buildings the Saudis and the Egyptians
were going to aim the planes at, though, wouldn't they? It would have
been a tad awkward for the hijackers to hit one building, and the
government demolish a building five blocks away, wouldn't it?
Exactly, which is why demoltion proves that 9-11 was an inside
job even without all the other proof.
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf
--
http://911research.wtc7.net/
http://www.st911.org
http://www.911proof.com/
"The new America, born in sin and arrogance, delusional
in Manifest Destiny, bred in overabundant gluttony,
consumerist and materialist, fathered by George W. Bush,
***** Cheney and the Cabal of Criminality, a country flocked
by sheeple, ignorant and conditioned, indifferent to a world
growing up around it, living delusions of empire and of
omnipotence, building hatred against it and its policies
throughout the planet, slowly dumbing down its citizens,
losing its edge in the sciences and arts, producing a nation
of acquiescent automatons brainwashed to never question
authority and always faithfully follow the crimes of governance."
- Manuel Valenzuela
"You're doin' a heckuva job, Brownie!" - bu$h, a few days
before his FEMA chief, Micheal Brown was forced to resign
because of his gross incomptence.
"The tools that enable Cuba to save lives and preserve
human dignity during hurricanes are socialist values
and organization." - Dr. W.T. Whitney Jr
Ever wonder who benefits from the 200 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent EACH DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own war crimes in Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
-- George W. Bush
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
-- Adolf Hitler
"Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
-Albert Nurick, a usenet kook, on the rape, torture and murder
at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
(http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm)
George W. Bush: "Intelligence gathered by this and other
governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues
to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever
devised." March 17, 2003.
http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com
http://responsiblewealth.org/
http://globalresearch.ca/
http://www.wsws.org/
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"You know, when bu$h said that he's against nation building,
I didn't realize that he meant only the United States"
-- Al Franken
Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
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| User: "PD" |
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22 May 2007 10:28:36 AM |
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On May 22, 8:42 am, Henry <9...@insidejob.gov> wrote:
PD wrote:
And they "psychically" knew exactly WHERE the Saudis and Egyptians
were going with the planes, and exactly when. And the Egyptians
managed to inflict horrific damage on the towers, but without cutting
any other the electrical connections between the numerous alleged
explosive previously "stored" inside the building.
They didn't need to know exactly when or where the planes
would hit to demolish the buildings, and the charges were
most likely detonated by radio signal. No wires.
They *would* have to know which buildings the Saudis and the Egyptians
were going to aim the planes at, though, wouldn't they? It would have
been a tad awkward for the hijackers to hit one building, and the
government demolish a building five blocks away, wouldn't it?
Exactly, which is why demoltion proves that 9-11 was an inside
job even without all the other proof.
Ah, so let's summarize, shall we?
It's your contention that the US government secretly *hired* the
Saudis and the Egyptians to fly hijacked planes into buildings that
had been *prewired*
with explosives, and that the explosive demolition was set up years in
advance and controlled by radio so that the demolition could proceed
despite crash damage from planes, with the intent of using this
elaborate ruse as a reason to spend half a trillion dollars and
thousands of U.S. lives, both military and civilian, to invade Iraq
with the intended result of increased oil prices and Mideast
instability -- all so Bush could line the pockets of a few cronies
with a few million bucks just before his approval ratings fell through
the floor.
Diabolical.
PD
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22 May 2007 01:51:50 PM |
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On May 22, 9:28 am, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 22, 8:42 am, Henry <9...@insidejob.gov> wrote:
PD wrote:
And they "psychically" knew exactly WHERE the Saudis and Egyptians
were going with the planes, and exactly when. And the Egyptians
managed to inflict horrific damage on the towers, but without cutting
any other the electrical connections between the numerous alleged
explosive previously "stored" inside the building.
They didn't need to know exactly when or where the planes
would hit to demolish the buildings, and the charges were
most likely detonated by radio signal. No wires.
They *would* have to know which buildings the Saudis and the Egyptians
were going to aim the planes at, though, wouldn't they? It would have
been a tad awkward for the hijackers to hit one building, and the
government demolish a building five blocks away, wouldn't it?
Exactly, which is why demoltion proves that 9-11 was an inside
job even without all the other proof.
Ah, so let's summarize, shall we?
It's your contention that the US government secretly *hired* the
Saudis and the Egyptians to fly hijacked planes into buildings that
had been *prewired*
with explosives, and that the explosive demolition was set up years in
advance and controlled by radio so that the demolition could proceed
despite crash damage from planes, with the intent of using this
elaborate ruse as a reason to spend half a trillion dollars and
thousands of U.S. lives, both military and civilian, to invade Iraq
with the intended result of increased oil prices and Mideast
instability -- all so Bush could line the pockets of a few cronies
with a few million bucks just before his approval ratings fell through
the floor.
Diabolical.
PD
Did you read the original link?
What about the dust and metallic microspheroids?
Is it not hard science?
John
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| User: "PD" |
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23 May 2007 07:40:03 AM |
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On May 22, 1:51 pm, malibu <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote:
On May 22, 9:28 am, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 22, 8:42 am, Henry <9...@insidejob.gov> wrote:
PD wrote:
And they "psychically" knew exactly WHERE the Saudis and Egyptians
were going with the planes, and exactly when. And the Egyptians
managed to inflict horrific damage on the towers, but without cutting
any other the electrical connections between the numerous alleged
explosive previously "stored" inside the building.
They didn't need to know exactly when or where the planes
would hit to demolish the buildings, and the charges were
most likely detonated by radio signal. No wires.
They *would* have to know which buildings the Saudis and the Egyptians
were going to aim the planes at, though, wouldn't they? It would have
been a tad awkward for the hijackers to hit one building, and the
government demolish a building five blocks away, wouldn't it?
Exactly, which is why demoltion proves that 9-11 was an inside
job even without all the other proof.
Ah, so let's summarize, shall we?
It's your contention that the US government secretly *hired* the
Saudis and the Egyptians to fly hijacked planes into buildings that
had been *prewired*
with explosives, and that the explosive demolition was set up years in
advance and controlled by radio so that the demolition could proceed
despite crash damage from planes, with the intent of using this
elaborate ruse as a reason to spend half a trillion dollars and
thousands of U.S. lives, both military and civilian, to invade Iraq
with the intended result of increased oil prices and Mideast
instability -- all so Bush could line the pockets of a few cronies
with a few million bucks just before his approval ratings fell through
the floor.
Diabolical.
PD
Did you read the original link?
Yes, did you read the above?
What about the dust and metallic microspheroids?
Is it not hard science?
John- Hide quoted text -
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| User: "Henry" |
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22 May 2007 07:50:33 PM |
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PD wrote:
On May 22, 8:42 am, Henry <9...@insidejob.gov> wrote:
PD wrote:
They *would* have to know which buildings the Saudis and the Egyptians
were going to aim the planes at, though, wouldn't they? It would have
been a tad awkward for the hijackers to hit one building, and the
government demolish a building five blocks away, wouldn't it?
Exactly, which is why demoltion proves that 9-11 was an inside
job even without all the other proof.
Ah, so let's summarize, shall we?
It's your contention that the US government secretly *hired* the
Saudis and the Egyptians to fly hijacked planes into buildings
A small secret branch of the Bush regime hired them, yes. That's
exactly what the facts show. When flight instructors contacted the
FBI *repeatedly* to report suspicious people of Middle Eastern origin
taking classes, the efforts of low ranking FBI officials to investigate
were thwarted by their superiors. Here, read this:
http://100777.com/node/963
that had been *prewired* with explosives,
Obviously. That's too complex a job to complete in a few
hours day.
and that the explosive demolition was set up years in
advance
Probably days or weeks in advance.
and controlled by radio so that the demolition could proceed
despite crash damage from planes, with the intent of using this
elaborate ruse as a reason to spend half a trillion dollars
Of our money, not theirs.
and thousands of U.S. lives, both military and civilian,
And hundreds of thousands of Iraqi and Afghani civilians'
lives with no end in sight.
to invade Iraq
with the intended result of increased oil prices and Mideast
instability -- all so Bush could line the pockets of a few cronies
with a few million bucks
Wow. You really "think" the war profiteers have only pocketed a
few million bucks? That's incredibly naive.
I see you haven't been able to refute or address any of the facts
and science in Dr. Jones's paper, either. No surprise there. Take a
look at page 13 and explain why you think both blocks should hit
the ground at the same time.
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf
--
http://911research.wtc7.net/
http://www.st911.org
http://www.911proof.com/
"The new America, born in sin and arrogance, delusional
in Manifest Destiny, bred in overabundant gluttony,
consumerist and materialist, fathered by George W. Bush,
***** Cheney and the Cabal of Criminality, a country flocked
by sheeple, ignorant and conditioned, indifferent to a world
growing up around it, living delusions of empire and of
omnipotence, building hatred against it and its policies
throughout the planet, slowly dumbing down its citizens,
losing its edge in the sciences and arts, producing a nation
of acquiescent automatons brainwashed to never question
authority and always faithfully follow the crimes of governance."
- Manuel Valenzuela
"You're doin' a heckuva job, Brownie!" - bu$h, a few days
before his FEMA chief, Micheal Brown was forced to resign
because of his gross incomptence.
"The tools that enable Cuba to save lives and preserve
human dignity during hurricanes are socialist values
and organization." - Dr. W.T. Whitney Jr
Ever wonder who benefits from the 200 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent EACH DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own war crimes in Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
-- George W. Bush
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
-- Adolf Hitler
"Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
-Albert Nurick, a usenet kook, on the rape, torture and murder
at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
(http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm)
George W. Bush: "Intelligence gathered by this and other
governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues
to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever
devised." March 17, 2003.
http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com
http://responsiblewealth.org/
http://globalresearch.ca/
http://www.wsws.org/
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"You know, when bu$h said that he's against nation building,
I didn't realize that he meant only the United States"
-- Al Franken
Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
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| User: "PD" |
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24 May 2007 08:41:23 AM |
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On May 22, 7:50 pm, Henry <9...@insidejob.gov> wrote:
PD wrote:
On May 22, 8:42 am, Henry <9...@insidejob.gov> wrote:
PD wrote:
They *would* have to know which buildings the Saudis and the Egyptians
were going to aim the planes at, though, wouldn't they? It would have
been a tad awkward for the hijackers to hit one building, and the
government demolish a building five blocks away, wouldn't it?
Exactly, which is why demoltion proves that 9-11 was an inside
job even without all the other proof.
Just recapping once more to see the contention in one tight form:
It's your contention that the US government secretly *hired* the
Saudis and the Egyptians to fly hijacked planes into buildings that
had been *prewired* with explosives, and that the explosive demolition
was set up well in advance and controlled by radio so that the
demolition could proceed despite crash damage from planes, with the
intent of using this elaborate ruse as a reason to spend half a
trillion dollars and thousands of U.S. lives, both military and
civilian, to invade Iraq with the intended result of increased oil
prices and Mideast instability -- all so Bush could line the pockets
of a few cronies with a few million bucks just before his approval
ratings fell through the floor.
Thanks for confirming this is your position. It helps classify which
medications to prescribe.
Ah, so let's summarize, shall we?
It's your contention that the US government secretly *hired* the
Saudis and the Egyptians to fly hijacked planes into buildings
A small secret branch of the Bush regime hired them, yes.
Ah, excellent. And since it's small and secret, you naturally have no
direct evidence of its existence or who is on it. You just surmise
that it *probably* exists, or that -- given your distrust of the
government in general -- you wouldn't be at all *surprised* that it
exists, and that is enough for you to assert that it *does* exist.
Say, you don't write for the Weekly World News, do you?
That's
exactly what the facts show. When flight instructors contacted the
FBI *repeatedly* to report suspicious people of Middle Eastern origin
taking classes, the efforts of low ranking FBI officials to investigate
were thwarted by their superiors.
that had been *prewired* with explosives,
Obviously. That's too complex a job to complete in a few
hours day.
And in fact too complex a job to complete in a few days or weeks in
advance in complete secrecy, with no one in the building, including
security and maintainance staff, aware of the installation, which
would involve hundreds of man-hours drilling concrete and loosening
steel joints.
Of course, in spy movies, this only takes 11 minutes, compressed to 90
seconds of screen time, with dramatic music playing in the background,
even with one of the characters having to freeze as a security guard
with a flashlight strolls by.
and that the explosive demolition was set up years in
advance
Probably days or weeks in advance.
and controlled by radio so that the demolition could proceed
despite crash damage from planes, with the intent of using this
elaborate ruse as a reason to spend half a trillion dollars
Of our money, not theirs.
Yup. Approved by Congress, not Bush. I'm sorry, who did you have a
problem with again?
and thousands of U.S. lives, both military and civilian,
And hundreds of thousands of Iraqi and Afghani civilians'
lives with no end in sight.
to invade Iraq
with the intended result of increased oil prices and Mideast
instability -- all so Bush could line the pockets of a few cronies
with a few million bucks
Wow. You really "think" the war profiteers have only pocketed a
few million bucks? That's incredibly naive.
Maybe. What numbers do YOU have? Not guess, not surmise, not "wouldn't
be surprised to learn, given how evil they are". And please check the
reliability of your sources -- not that that's important to you.
PD
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| User: "Henry" |
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| Title: Re: !! New scientific analysis proves WTC Demolition !! |
26 May 2007 05:37:07 PM |
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PD wrote:
On May 22, 7:50 pm, Henry <9...@insidejob.gov> wrote:
When flight instructors contacted the FBI *repeatedly*
to report suspicious people of Middle Eastern origin
taking classes, the efforts of low ranking FBI officials
to investigate were thwarted by their superiors. Here,
read this:
http://100777.com/node/963
Thanks for confirming this is your position. It helps classify which
medications to prescribe.
Moronic kook talk and avoidance of the facts. Learn how
to read and think. The facts in the link below prove the
Bush regime's complicity.
http://100777.com/node/963
Of course, in spy movies, this only takes 11 minutes, compressed to 90
seconds of screen time, with dramatic music playing in the background,
even with one of the characters having to freeze as a security guard
with a flashlight strolls by.
9-11 wasn't a spy movie, kooker. You're still being very silly.
and controlled by radio so that the demolition could proceed
despite crash damage from planes, with the intent of using this
elaborate ruse as a reason to spend half a trillion dollars
Of our money, not theirs.
Yup. Approved by Congress, not Bush. I'm sorry, who did you have a
problem with again?
The fact that you don't have a problem with hundreds of
BILLIONS of desperately needed U.S. taxpayer dollars being
wasted on an illegal, immoral, unprovoked, globally condemned,
and completely failed campaign of terror is yet more proof
of your ignorance and insanity.
Wow. You really "think" the war profiteers have only pocketed a
few million bucks? That's incredibly naive.
Maybe.
More proof of your extreme ignorance. Have someone help
you read and understand the facts below.
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
--
http://911research.wtc7.net/
http://www.stj911.org
http://journalof911studies.com
http://www.911proof.com/
"The new America, born in sin and arrogance, delusional
in Manifest Destiny, bred in overabundant gluttony,
consumerist and materialist, fathered by George W. Bush,
***** Cheney and the Cabal of Criminality, a country flocked
by sheeple, ignorant and conditioned, indifferent to a world
growing up around it, living delusions of empire and of
omnipotence, building hatred against it and its policies
throughout the planet, slowly dumbing down its citizens,
losing its edge in the sciences and arts, producing a nation
of acquiescent automatons brainwashed to never question
authority and always faithfully follow the crimes of governance."
- Manuel Valenzuela
"You're doin' a heckuva job, Brownie!" - bu$h, a few days
before his FEMA chief, Micheal Brown was forced to resign
because of his gross incomptence.
"The tools that enable Cuba to save lives and preserve
human dignity during hurricanes are socialist values
and organization." - Dr. W.T. Whitney Jr
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent EACH DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own war crimes in Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
-- George W. Bush
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
-- Adolf Hitler
George W. Bush: "Intelligence gathered by this and other
governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues
to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever
devised." March 17, 2003.
http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com
http://responsiblewealth.org/
http://globalresearch.ca/
http://www.wsws.org/
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"You know, when bu$h said that he's against nation building,
I didn't realize that he meant only the United States"
-- Al Franken
Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
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| User: "PD" |
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27 May 2007 04:23:34 PM |
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On May 26, 5:37 pm, Henry <b...@treason.gov> wrote:
PD wrote:
and controlled by radio so that the demolition could proceed
despite crash damage from planes, with the intent of using this
elaborate ruse as a reason to spend half a trillion dollars
Of our money, not theirs.
Yup. Approved by Congress, not Bush. I'm sorry, who did you have a
problem with again?
The fact that you don't have a problem with hundreds of
BILLIONS of desperately needed U.S. taxpayer dollars being
wasted on an illegal, immoral, unprovoked, globally condemned,
and completely failed campaign of terror is yet more proof
of your ignorance and insanity.
I do have a problem with it. However, I also have a problem with
constructing misinformation campaigns and claims of ownership of the
truth as a means for achieving the end of it.
PD
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| User: "David Johnston" |
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22 May 2007 12:00:54 PM |
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On Tue, 22 May 2007 09:42:12 -0400, Henry <911@insidejob.gov> wrote:
They *would* have to know which buildings the Saudis and the Egyptians
were going to aim the planes at, though, wouldn't they? It would have
been a tad awkward for the hijackers to hit one building, and the
government demolish a building five blocks away, wouldn't it?
Exactly, which is why demoltion proves that 9-11 was an inside
job even without all the other proof.
No, actually it would have to be a coincidence. Why would people who
intended to hi-jack a plane and go kamikaze bother to plant explosives
in the building they were going to hit? That degree of overkill would
be totally pointless and unnecessarily risky. Therefore there must
two separate and unconnected groups, the ones who rammed the plane and
the ones who planted the explosives.
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| User: "* US *" |
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22 May 2007 12:58:23 PM |
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"“There were explosions going off everywhere. I was convinced that there were bombs
planted all over the place and someone was sitting at a control panel pushing detonator
buttons . . . There was another explosion. And another. I didn't know where to run."
- Teresa Veliz, WTC 1 Employee, 47th Floor"
http://www.explosive911analysis.com/
On Tue, 22 May 2007 17:00:54 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net> wrote:
No, actually it would have to be a coincidence. Why would people who
intended to hi-jack a plane and go kamikaze bother to plant explosives
in the building they were going to hit?
The buildings were designed to withstand the plane crashes.
That degree of overkill would
be totally pointless and unnecessarily risky. Therefore there must
two separate and unconnected groups, the ones who rammed the plane and
the ones who planted the explosives.
That's merely a non sequitur.
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| User: "Henry" |
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23 May 2007 10:04:47 PM |
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David Johnston wrote:
No, actually it would have to be a coincidence. Why would people who
intended to hi-jack a plane and go kamikaze bother to plant explosives
in the building they were going to hit? That degree of overkill would
be totally pointless and unnecessarily risky. Therefore there must
two separate and unconnected groups, the ones who rammed the plane and
the ones who planted the explosives.
One connected group. They remotely control the planes and set
and detonate the explosives. Fires can't cause steel framed buildings
to disintegrate and drop at free fall speed and perfect symmetry.
Also, 1500 degree fires can't heat steel to 3000 degrees - unless
you're a conspiracy kook....
I see you haven't been able to refute or address any of the facts
and science in Dr. Jones's paper, either. No surprise there.
The free fall speed of the collapses, the near perfect symmetry,
the multiple, synchronized explosions, and the flowing, molten
metal observed deep in the rubble of all three WTC demolition sites
is all the proof a clear thinking person needs to conclude that the
towers ans WTC7 were demolished, but here is still more conclusive
proof for the severely brainwashed, and those who have difficulty
grasping basic concepts involving physics, mechanics, and logic.
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf
--
http://911research.wtc7.net/
http://www.st911.org
http://www.911proof.com/
"The new America, born in sin and arrogance, delusional
in Manifest Destiny, bred in overabundant gluttony,
consumerist and materialist, fathered by George W. Bush,
***** Cheney and the Cabal of Criminality, a country flocked
by sheeple, ignorant and conditioned, indifferent to a world
growing up around it, living delusions of empire and of
omnipotence, building hatred against it and its policies
throughout the planet, slowly dumbing down its citizens,
losing its edge in the sciences and arts, producing a nation
of acquiescent automatons brainwashed to never question
authority and always faithfully follow the crimes of governance."
- Manuel Valenzuela
"You're doin' a heckuva job, Brownie!" - bu$h, a few days
before his FEMA chief, Micheal Brown was forced to resign
because of his gross incomptence.
"The tools that enable Cuba to save lives and preserve
human dignity during hurricanes are socialist values
and organization." - Dr. W.T. Whitney Jr
Ever wonder who benefits from the 200 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent EACH DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own war crimes in Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
-- George W. Bush
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
-- Adolf Hitler
"Brutal and sadistic? By what girly-man standards? Compared
to how Saddam treated his prisoners, a bit of humiliation was
a walk in the park. AFAIK, No one died or even lost any blood."
-Albert Nurick, a usenet kook, on the rape, torture and murder
at bu$h's Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
(http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm)
George W. Bush: "Intelligence gathered by this and other
governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues
to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever
devised." March 17, 2003.
http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com
http://responsiblewealth.org/
http://globalresearch.ca/
http://www.wsws.org/
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"You know, when bu$h said that he's against nation building,
I didn't realize that he meant only the United States"
-- Al Franken
Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
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| User: "BrianNZ" |
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| Title: Re: !! New scientific analysis proves WTC Demolition !! |
24 May 2007 03:40:44 PM |
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Henry wrote:
David Johnston wrote:
No, actually it would have to be a coincidence. Why would people who
intended to hi-jack a plane and go kamikaze bother to plant explosives
in the building they were going to hit? That degree of overkill would
be totally pointless and unnecessarily risky. Therefore there must
two separate and unconnected groups, the ones who rammed the plane and
the ones who planted the explosives.
One connected group. They remotely control the planes and set
and detonate the explosives.
I just want to be crystal clear here........
You are stating the planes that hit the twin towers were being flown by
remote control.?
Fires can't cause steel framed buildings
to disintegrate and drop at free fall speed and perfect symmetry.
Also, 1500 degree fires can't heat steel to 3000 degrees - unless
you're a conspiracy kook....
I see you haven't been able to refute or address any of the facts
and science in Dr. Jones's paper, either. No surprise there.
The free fall speed of the collapses, the near perfect symmetry,
the multiple, synchronized explosions, and the flowing, molten
metal observed deep in the rubble of all three WTC demolition sites
is all the proof a clear thinking person needs to conclude that the
towers ans WTC7 were demolished, but here is still more conclusive
proof for the severely brainwashed, and those who have difficulty
grasping basic concepts involving physics, mechanics, and logic.
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf
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| User: "Henry" |
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| Title: Re: !! New scientific analysis proves WTC Demolition !! |
26 May 2007 05:55:12 PM |
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BrianNZ wrote:
Henry wrote:
One connected group. They remotely control the planes and set
and detonate the explosives.
I just want to be crystal clear here........
You are stating the planes that hit the twin towers were being flown by
remote control.?
Yes, that's my opinion, and it's supported by the evidence. The
alleged hijackers obviously lacked the skill to pull it off,
even with NORAD standing down for them.
Will you now try to tell us that you think that's impossible - like
demolishing steel framed structures using controlled demolition? Here
in the real world, both have been done with great success - for many
years.
The search feature at http://911research.wtc7.net is very
helpful, and the research at that site holds up to close
scrutiny. Not one magic fire conspiracy theorist has been
able to find even one false or misleading statement on the
entire site.
http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/analysis/homerun.html
Fires can't cause steel framed buildings
to disintegrate and drop at free fall speed and perfect symmetry.
Also, 1500 degree fires can't heat steel to 3000 degrees - unless
you're a conspiracy kook....
I see you haven't been able to refute or address any of the facts
and science in Dr. Jones's paper, either. No surprise there.
The free fall speed of the collapses, the near perfect symmetry,
the multiple, synchronized explosions, and the flowing, molten
metal observed deep in the rubble of all three WTC demolition sites
is all the proof a clear thinking person needs to conclude that the
towers ans WTC7 were demolished, but here is still more conclusive
proof for the severely brainwashed, and those who have difficulty
grasping basic concepts involving physics, mechanics, and logic.
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf
--
http://911research.wtc7.net/
http://www.stj911.org
http://journalof911studies.com
http://www.911proof.com/
"The new America, born in sin and arrogance, delusional
in Manifest Destiny, bred in overabundant gluttony,
consumerist and materialist, fathered by George W. Bush,
***** Cheney and the Cabal of Criminality, a country flocked
by sheeple, ignorant and conditioned, indifferent to a world
growing up around it, living delusions of empire and of
omnipotence, building hatred against it and its policies
throughout the planet, slowly dumbing down its citizens,
losing its edge in the sciences and arts, producing a nation
of acquiescent automatons brainwashed to never question
authority and always faithfully follow the crimes of governance."
- Manuel Valenzuela
"You're doin' a heckuva job, Brownie!" - bu$h, a few days
before his FEMA chief, Micheal Brown was forced to resign
because of his gross incomptence.
"The tools that enable Cuba to save lives and preserve
human dignity during hurricanes are socialist values
and organization." - Dr. W.T. Whitney Jr
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent EACH DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own war crimes in Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
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| User: "PD" |
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| Title: Re: !! New scientific analysis proves WTC Demolition !! |
24 May 2007 05:45:33 PM |
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On May 24, 3:40 pm, BrianNZ <b...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
Henry wrote:
David Johnston wrote:
No, actually it would have to be a coincidence. Why would people who
intended to hi-jack a plane and go kamikaze bother to plant explosives
in the building they were going to hit? That degree of overkill would
be totally pointless and unnecessarily risky. Therefore there must
two separate and unconnected groups, the ones who rammed the plane and
the ones who planted the explosives.
One connected group. They remotely control the planes and set
and detonate the explosives.
I just want to be crystal clear here........
You are stating the planes that hit the twin towers were being flown by
remote control.?
When he deviates from his cut-and-paste script, the lunacy begins to
leak out.
PD
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| User: "BrianNZ" |
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24 May 2007 05:59:08 PM |
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PD wrote:
On May 24, 3:40 pm, BrianNZ <b...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
Henry wrote:
David Johnston wrote:
No, actually it would have to be a coincidence. Why would people who
intended to hi-jack a plane and go kamikaze bother to plant explosives
in the building they were going to hit? That degree of overkill would
be totally pointless and unnecessarily risky. Therefore there must
two separate and unconnected groups, the ones who rammed the plane and
the ones who planted the explosives.
One connected group. They remotely control the planes and set
and detonate the explosives.
I just want to be crystal clear here........
You are stating the planes that hit the twin towers were being flown by
remote control.?
When he deviates from his cut-and-paste script, the lunacy begins to
leak out.
PD
This could get quite interesting when he starts posting his 'irrefutable
hard evidence' that they were indeed being flown by remote control. But
then again I wouldn't be surprised if he comes back with "I never posted
that"..........
One might wonder though, why would you need the planes at all if the
buildings had been wired with thermite cutting charges and explosives
in the previous weeks (without anyone who worked there noticing
anything). Al Queda had attacked the WTC before (or was that the same
'secret' people?)so 'they' (the secret people) could have just blown the
towers and blamed Al Queda....no need for planes at all?
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| User: "Henry" |
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27 May 2007 07:56:30 PM |
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PD wrote:
On May 24, 3:40 pm, BrianNZ <b...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
You are stating the planes that hit the twin towers were being flown by
remote control.?
When he deviates from his cut-and-paste script, the lunacy begins to
leak out.
So, in kookworld, the remote control of commercial air craft
is "lunacy", eh? I'll give you kooks credit for one thing - you're
not ashamed to reveal your extreme ignorance and stupidity in
public. <chuckle>
http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/analysis/homerun.html
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http://911research.wtc7.net/
http://www.stj911.org
http://journalof911studies.com
http://www.911proof.com/
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