Science > Physics > ! Senator John Kerry - WTC7 deliberately demolished !
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23 Apr 2007 08:01:11 PM |
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! Senator John Kerry - WTC7 deliberately demolished ! |
It'll be fun to watch the terrorists try to put their spin on
this. They'll either ignore his comment, or claim that Kerry
is mistaken, but they will offer no plausible explanation for
WTC7's free fall speed and perfectly symmetric collapse, because
demolition is the =only= plausible explanation.
The best demolition team on the planet, on their best day, could
not have done a better job of dropping WTC7 than the Bush regime's
magic fires. That a cartoon fairly tale blaming such a collapse on
small random fires and external damage to one side of the building
is still swallowed by millions of sheeple, is classic Orwellian
comedy at its "best".
At least the topic is getting more media attention. Hopefully, this
will help the sheeple awaken from their stupor and they will come to
realize that 9-11 was an inside job. Perhaps they will learn who had
the means, who benefited, and what the evidence shows.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/230407building7.htm
John Kerry: Building 7 Was Deliberately Demolished
Massachusetts Senator's conclusion directly contradicts 9/11 official
story, multi-billion dollar insurance lawsuit
Paul Joseph Watson & Aaron Dykes
Prison Planet
Monday, April 23, 2007
At a recent speaking engagement in Austin Texas, Senator John Kerry
responded to a question about WTC Building 7 by concluding that
according to his information, the building was brought down as a result
of a controlled demolition, directly contradicting the official line
that the structure fell as a result of fire and debris damage.
WTC Building 7 was a 47-story building in the WTC complex that collapsed
at 5:20pm on September 11. The building had been structurally reinforced
and was not hit by a plane yet collapsed in a uniform implosion within
its own footprint in a matter of seconds after sustaining relatively
light debris and fire damage following the collapse of the twin towers.
News networks like BBC and CNN were reporting that the building had
collapsed before it fell, indicating that the media were being handed a
script of events that had yet to even unfold.
Ground zero EMT's, firefighters and police were all told hours in
advance to clear a collapse zone for Building 7 as it was going to be
"brought down."
Questioned on WTC 7 by members of Austin 9/11 Truth Now at a Book People
event in Austin Texas, Kerry responded, "I do know that that wall, I
remember, was in danger and I think they made the decision based on the
danger that it had in destroying other things, that they did it in a
controlled fashion."
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http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://www.911truth.org
Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
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23 Apr 2007 09:34:09 PM |
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On Apr 23, 8:01 pm, Henry <imfeedingthefantasy@the.nuthouse> wrote:
At a recent speaking engagement in Austin Texas, Senator John Kerry
responded to a question about WTC Building 7 by concluding that
the building was brought down as a result of a controlled demolition...
....leaving only World Wrestling Federation candidates vying for the
Democratic Nomination for president!
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| User: "Midex" |
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24 Apr 2007 10:22:52 AM |
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On 23 abr, 23:34, "tomor...@erols.com" <tomor...@erols.com> wrote:
On Apr 23, 8:01 pm, Henry <imfeedingthefant...@the.nuthouse> wrote:
At a recent speaking engagement in Austin Texas, SenatorJohnKerry
responded to a question about WTC Building 7 by concluding that
the building was brought down as a result of a controlled demolition...
...leaving only World Wrestling Federation candidates vying for the
Democratic Nomination for president!
Why would you discuss candidatures for President when its clear that
both sides of congress are corrupt and involved in the 9/11 cover-up?
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| User: "Henry" |
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24 Apr 2007 08:19:59 PM |
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Midex wrote:
On 23 abr, 23:34, "tomor...@erols.com" <tomor...@erols.com> wrote:
On Apr 23, 8:01 pm, Henry wrote:
At a recent speaking engagement in Austin Texas, Senator John Kerry
responded to a question about WTC Building 7 by concluding that
the building was brought down as a result of a controlled demolition...
...leaving only World Wrestling Federation candidates vying for the
Democratic Nomination for president!
Why would you discuss candidatures for President when its clear that
both sides of congress are corrupt and involved in the 9/11 cover-up?
Because a logical discussion of the hard evidence regarding the
attacks of 9-11 is well beyond their ability. They would rather believe
the blatant lies of their incompetent, criminal ruling masters and live
in denial and ignorance than deal with harsh realities. It's as though a
part of their intellect stopped developing around the age of five. Magic fire/Super Arab conspiracy theorists tend to get very, very silly when
they're challenged to defend their conspiracy theory using logic, science, evidence, or rational thought.
One benefit of their juvenile, incoherent ranting is that they
discredit themselves and their conspiracy theory while making those of
us who support the 9-11 truth effort appear even more reasonable,
logical, and knowledgeable. When the only people supporting the
"official" conspiracy theory prove themselves to be ignorant of the
facts and incapable of rational or logical thought, the case for an
inside job becomes even more convincing. <g>
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://www.911truth.org
Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
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25 Apr 2007 10:26:02 PM |
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On Apr 24, 8:19 pm, Henry <impeachb...@treason.whitehouse> wrote:
... they discredit themselves .... while making those of
us who support the 9-11 truth effort appear even more reasonable,
logical, and knowledgeable.
As if that were even remotely possible!
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23 Apr 2007 10:55:20 PM |
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On Apr 23, 7:34 pm, "tomor...@erols.com" <tomor...@erols.com> wrote:
On Apr 23, 8:01 pm, Henry <imfeedingthefant...@the.nuthouse> wrote:
At a recent speaking engagement in Austin Texas, Senator John Kerry
responded to a question about WTC Building 7 by concluding that
the building was brought down as a result of a controlled demolition...
...leaving only World Wrestling Federation candidates vying for the
Democratic Nomination for president!
? Vinnie Mac is a Republican.
Mark L. Fergerson
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| User: "Keith Schiffner" |
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23 Apr 2007 11:00:36 PM |
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"nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177386920.182010.296810@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 23, 7:34 pm, "tomor...@erols.com" <tomor...@erols.com> wrote:
On Apr 23, 8:01 pm, Henry <imfeedingthefant...@the.nuthouse> wrote:
At a recent speaking engagement in Austin Texas, Senator John Kerry
responded to a question about WTC Building 7 by concluding that
the building was brought down as a result of a controlled demolition...
...leaving only World Wrestling Federation candidates vying for the
Democratic Nomination for president!
? Vinnie Mac is a Republican.
That *****!
Kane gets my vote...his big "bother" the Undertaker for VP. At least then the
POTUS could finally make an entry worthy of the duties the job entails.
--
Keith Schiffner
History does not record anywhere at any time a religion that has any rational
basis. Religion is a crutch for people not strong enough to stand up to the
unknown without help. But, like dandruff, most people do have a religion and
spend time and money on it and seem to derive considerable pleasure from
fiddling with it.
Robert Heinlein
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23 Apr 2007 11:21:22 PM |
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Keith Schiffner wrote:
"nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177386920.182010.296810@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 23, 7:34 pm, "tomor...@erols.com" <tomor...@erols.com> wrote:
On Apr 23, 8:01 pm, Henry <imfeedingthefant...@the.nuthouse> wrote:
At a recent speaking engagement in Austin Texas, Senator John Kerry
responded to a question about WTC Building 7 by concluding that
the building was brought down as a result of a controlled demolition...
...leaving only World Wrestling Federation candidates vying for the
Democratic Nomination for president!
? Vinnie Mac is a Republican.
That *****!
Kane gets my vote...his big "bother" the Undertaker for VP. At least then the
POTUS could finally make an entry worthy of the duties the job entails.
Where is Killer Kowalski when you need him?!
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24 Apr 2007 12:04:21 AM |
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"Polarhound" <polarhound@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Keith Schiffner wrote:
"nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177386920.182010.296810@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 23, 7:34 pm, "tomor...@erols.com" <tomor...@erols.com> wrote:
On Apr 23, 8:01 pm, Henry <imfeedingthefant...@the.nuthouse> wrote:
At a recent speaking engagement in Austin Texas, Senator John Kerry
responded to a question about WTC Building 7 by concluding that
the building was brought down as a result of a controlled demolition...
...leaving only World Wrestling Federation candidates vying for the
Democratic Nomination for president!
? Vinnie Mac is a Republican.
That *****!
Kane gets my vote...his big "bother" the Undertaker for VP. At least then the
POTUS could finally make an entry worthy of the duties the job entails.
Where is Killer Kowalski when you need him?!
HA! Gorgeous George was better! For that matter the Stupendous Skandar Akbar! A
fine lad from Oklahoma!
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Keith Schiffner
Dum vivimus, vivamus
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| User: "Rob Kleinschmidt" |
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24 Apr 2007 01:40:27 AM |
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On Apr 23, 9:04 pm, "Keith Schiffner" <schis...@bresnan.net> wrote:
"Polarhound" <polarho...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Keith Schiffner wrote:
"n...@bid.nes" <Alien8...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177386920.182010.296810@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 23, 7:34 pm, "tomor...@erols.com" <tomor...@erols.com> wrote:
On Apr 23, 8:01 pm, Henry <imfeedingthefant...@the.nuthouse> wrote:
At a recent speaking engagement in Austin Texas, Senator John Kerry
responded to a question about WTC Building 7 by concluding that
the building was brought down as a result of a controlled demolition...
...leaving only World Wrestling Federation candidates vying for the
Democratic Nomination for president!
? Vinnie Mac is a Republican.
That *****!
Kane gets my vote...his big "bother" the Undertaker for VP. At least then the
POTUS could finally make an entry worthy of the duties the job entails.
Where is Killer Kowalski when you need him?!
HA! Gorgeous George was better! For that matter the Stupendous Skandar Akbar! A
fine lad from Oklahoma!
As kids, we were always kind of partial to Moose Cholak.
www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/profiles/m/moose-cholak.html
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24 Apr 2007 07:48:43 AM |
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"Rob Kleinschmidt" <Rkleinsch1216128@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1177396827.672034.22410@c18g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 23, 9:04 pm, "Keith Schiffner" <schis...@bresnan.net> wrote:
"Polarhound" <polarho...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:XYCdnbSdodnJGLDbnZ2dnUVZ_h7inZ2d@comcast.com...
Keith Schiffner wrote:
"n...@bid.nes" <Alien8...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177386920.182010.296810@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 23, 7:34 pm, "tomor...@erols.com" <tomor...@erols.com> wrote:
On Apr 23, 8:01 pm, Henry <imfeedingthefant...@the.nuthouse> wrote:
At a recent speaking engagement in Austin Texas, Senator John Kerry
responded to a question about WTC Building 7 by concluding that
the building was brought down as a result of a controlled demolition...
...leaving only World Wrestling Federation candidates vying for the
Democratic Nomination for president!
? Vinnie Mac is a Republican.
That *****!
Kane gets my vote...his big "bother" the Undertaker for VP. At least then
the
POTUS could finally make an entry worthy of the duties the job entails.
Where is Killer Kowalski when you need him?!
HA! Gorgeous George was better! For that matter the Stupendous Skandar Akbar!
A
fine lad from Oklahoma!
As kids, we were always kind of partial to Moose Cholak.
www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/profiles/m/moose-cholak.html
Shame innit? hundreds if not thousands of guys like the late Mr. Cholack and
most of the world never heard of them.
"Three times it's not fake out there,
1. Money
2. Somebody looses their cool and gets mad.
3. There's an accident, someone slips, looses their grip."
Skand-bar Akbar circa 1978
--
Keith Schiffner
History does not record anywhere at any time a religion that has any rational
basis. Religion is a crutch for people not strong enough to stand up to the
unknown without help. But, like dandruff, most people do have a religion and
spend time and money on it and seem to derive considerable pleasure from
fiddling with it.
Robert Heinlein
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| User: "Rob Kleinschmidt" |
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24 Apr 2007 10:58:40 AM |
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On Apr 24, 5:48 am, "Keith Schiffner" <schis...@bresnan.net> wrote:
"Rob Kleinschmidt" <Rkleinsch1216...@aol.com> wrote in message
As kids, we were always kind of partial to Moose Cholak.
www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/profiles/m/moose-cholak.html
Shame innit? hundreds if not thousands of guys like the late Mr. Cholack and
most of the world never heard of them.
These days you almost never see anybody wear a moosehead
into the ring, but Moose always wore it with dignity.
I once found myself flipping back and forth between the Clinton
impeachment hearings and the WWF. On the one channel, there
was all this ridiculous bellowing, shouting and posturing for the
crowd. On the other channel, they were also wearing colorful costumes.
"Three times it's not fake out there,
1. Money
2. Somebody looses their cool and gets mad.
3. There's an accident, someone slips, looses their grip."
Skand-bar Akbar circa 1978
We're talking WWF or congress here ?
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| User: "Keith Schiffner" |
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24 Apr 2007 10:10:15 PM |
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SNIP
"Three times it's not fake out there,
1. Money
2. Somebody looses their cool and gets mad.
3. There's an accident, someone slips, looses their grip."
Skand-bar Akbar circa 1978
We're talking WWF or congress here ?
WWF...they stick to the script and are better actors. Better managers to for
that matter and the benefits? Dude some of those groupies actually have all
their original teeth! What more could a manly man ask for?
"Know your Role!"
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Keith Schiffner
History does not record anywhere at any time a religion that has any rational
basis. Religion is a crutch for people not strong enough to stand up to the
unknown without help. But, like dandruff, most people do have a religion and
spend time and money on it and seem to derive considerable pleasure from
fiddling with it.
Robert Heinlein
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| User: "Androcles" |
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25 Apr 2007 02:42:39 AM |
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"Keith Schiffner" <schistan@bresnan.net> wrote in message =
news:KLOdnW9URejkW7PbnZ2dnUVZ_qmpnZ2d@bresnan.com...
=20
SNIP
Ok, consider it done.=20
*plonk*
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| User: "" |
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25 Apr 2007 07:47:05 AM |
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On Apr 24, 11:01 am, Henry <impeachb...@treason.whitehouse> wrote:
It'll be fun to watch the terrorists try to put their spin on
this. They'll either ignore his comment, or claim that Kerry
is mistaken, but they will offer no plausible explanation for
WTC7's free fall speed and perfectly symmetric collapse, because
demolition is the =only= plausible explanation.
Yes, they are a disturbing bunch. How unfathomably stupid must one be
to not immediately see WTC 7 came down in a controlled demolition.
Once one knows the total fall time = free fall time, one has no
excuse.
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| User: "David T. Johnson" |
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26 Apr 2007 02:46:00 PM |
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On Apr 24, 11:01 am, Henry <impeachb...@treason.whitehouse> wrote:
It'll be fun to watch the terrorists try to put their spin on
this. They'll either ignore his comment, or claim that Kerry
is mistaken, but they will offer no plausible explanation for
WTC7's free fall speed and perfectly symmetric collapse, because
demolition is the =only= plausible explanation.
Yes, they are a disturbing bunch. How unfathomably stupid must one be
to not immediately see WTC 7 came down in a controlled demolition.
Once one knows the total fall time = free fall time, one has no
excuse.
Okay, let's assume that WTC7 was brought down deliberately. So what?
It's foundation and structure were obviously badly damaged by the
collapse of two adjacent 100+ story buildings and the building would
never be used again. What's the big deal if the authorities had some
people spot some explosives in it to bring it down? Even more to the
point WHY would the people on the scene have wanted to bring Bldg7 down
for any reason EXCEPT public safety? Building 7 wasn't hit by an
airplane. There were no people in it. It wasn't a particularly
culturally significant, useful or beautiful building. It was badly
damaged. It was on fire and there was obviously not going to be any way
to put the fire out for several more days. The two big towers had
already fallen. I don't think even the Al Qaeda terrorists gave a rat's
***** about Building 7 by that time.
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Posted with OS/2 Warp 4.52
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| User: "Henry" |
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26 Apr 2007 05:29:57 PM |
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David T. Johnson wrote:
Okay, let's assume that WTC7 was brought down deliberately.
You don't have to assume. It's a proved fact. Nothing but
a perfectly executed controlled demolition can cause a 47
story steel framed skyscraper to drop straight down at free
fall speed and perfect symmetry.
So what?
So, the demolition charges had to be placed prior to 9-11-01.
It's impossible to rig a 600 ft tall steel framed skyscraper
for a picture perfect demolition in a few hours. Wow.....
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/wtc7.html
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http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://www.911truth.org
Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
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27 Apr 2007 11:08:08 AM |
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Henry wrote:
David T. Johnson wrote:
Okay, let's assume that WTC7 was brought down deliberately.
You don't have to assume. It's a proved fact. Nothing but
a perfectly executed controlled demolition can cause a 47
story steel framed skyscraper to drop straight down at free
fall speed and perfect symmetry.
So what?
So, the demolition charges had to be placed prior to 9-11-01.
It's impossible to rig a 600 ft tall steel framed skyscraper
for a picture perfect demolition in a few hours. Wow.....
I think that the Bldg 7 could have been rigged for demo in an hour or
two if they were in a hurry and had the explosives available. In a
normal demolition, it might take a couple of weeks but a lot of that
time is spent removing crap from the building that isn't supposed to end
up in the debris, clearing the zone where the debris will fall, covering
and protecting adjacent structures, stuff like that. Also, they try and
use a lot of small charges carefully installed and coordinated so that
the building drops in exactly the right way. If they were in a hurry,
they wouldn't have to worry about that stuff. They could just set a few
large charges in the lower floors and let er rip. Blowing stuff up
doesn't take long. I'll bet Navy Seals could have done the job in half
an hour.
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Posted with OS/2 Warp 4.52
and Sea Monkey 1.5a
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| User: "Keith Schiffner" |
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27 Apr 2007 11:15:37 AM |
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"David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com> wrote in message
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Henry wrote:
David T. Johnson wrote:
Okay, let's assume that WTC7 was brought down deliberately.
You don't have to assume. It's a proved fact. Nothing but
a perfectly executed controlled demolition can cause a 47
story steel framed skyscraper to drop straight down at free
fall speed and perfect symmetry.
So what?
So, the demolition charges had to be placed prior to 9-11-01.
It's impossible to rig a 600 ft tall steel framed skyscraper
for a picture perfect demolition in a few hours. Wow.....
I think that the Bldg 7 could have been rigged for demo in an hour or two if
they were in a hurry and had the explosives available. In a normal
demolition, it might take a couple of weeks but a lot of that time is spent
removing crap from the building that isn't supposed to end up in the debris,
clearing the zone where the debris will fall, covering and protecting adjacent
structures, stuff like that. Also, they try and use a lot of small charges
carefully installed and coordinated so that the building drops in exactly the
right way. If they were in a hurry, they wouldn't have to worry about that
stuff. They could just set a few large charges in the lower floors and let er
rip. Blowing stuff up doesn't take long. I'll bet Navy Seals could have done
the job in half an hour.
using partial charges a drop like that often takes a ton or more. That is a
surgical drop...
A brute force drop is just that mass quanties of explosives and team of SEALS
would have improbable chance of moving and setting the amount necessary in the
time given. Even then they aren't as good at demo as combat engineers and even
they would need a team of over 100...so the theory provided fails like all the
"molten metal" theories.
Move on to something more plausible like is the Knights Templar still around.
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| User: "Henry" |
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29 Apr 2007 09:16:53 AM |
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Keith Schiffner wrote:
"David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com> wrote
Henry wrote:
David T. Johnson wrote:
Okay, let's assume that WTC7 was brought down deliberately.
You don't have to assume. It's a proved fact. Nothing but
a perfectly executed controlled demolition can cause a 47
story steel framed skyscraper to drop straight down at free
fall speed and perfect symmetry.
So what?
So, the demolition charges had to be placed prior to 9-11-01.
It's impossible to rig a 600 ft tall steel framed skyscraper
for a picture perfect demolition in a few hours. Wow.....
I think that the Bldg 7 could have been rigged for demo in an hour or two if
they were in a hurry and had the explosives available.
That's not what the experts say. Also, don't forget that there
were a few small fires and smoke in the building.
using partial charges a drop like that often takes a ton or more.
That is a surgical drop...
A surgical drop that you and other pus brained conspiracy
kooks "think" was caused by a few small random fires. That's
incredibly far fetched. It's downright stupid kooky, in fact.
so the theory provided fails like all the
"molten metal" theories.
The molten metal observed at all three demolition
sites isn't a theory. It's a well documented fact.
You're still being very stupid.
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://www.911truth.org
Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
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| User: "David T. Johnson" |
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27 Apr 2007 11:50:08 AM |
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Keith Schiffner wrote:
"David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com> wrote in message
news:133481ph1b8gs9a@corp.supernews.com...
Henry wrote:
David T. Johnson wrote:
Okay, let's assume that WTC7 was brought down deliberately.
You don't have to assume. It's a proved fact. Nothing but
a perfectly executed controlled demolition can cause a 47
story steel framed skyscraper to drop straight down at free
fall speed and perfect symmetry.
So what?
So, the demolition charges had to be placed prior to 9-11-01.
It's impossible to rig a 600 ft tall steel framed skyscraper
for a picture perfect demolition in a few hours. Wow.....
I think that the Bldg 7 could have been rigged for demo in an hour or two if
they were in a hurry and had the explosives available. In a normal
demolition, it might take a couple of weeks but a lot of that time is spent
removing crap from the building that isn't supposed to end up in the debris,
clearing the zone where the debris will fall, covering and protecting adjacent
structures, stuff like that. Also, they try and use a lot of small charges
carefully installed and coordinated so that the building drops in exactly the
right way. If they were in a hurry, they wouldn't have to worry about that
stuff. They could just set a few large charges in the lower floors and let er
rip. Blowing stuff up doesn't take long. I'll bet Navy Seals could have done
the job in half an hour.
using partial charges a drop like that often takes a ton or more. That is a
surgical drop...
A brute force drop is just that mass quanties of explosives and team of SEALS
would have improbable chance of moving and setting the amount necessary in the
time given. Even then they aren't as good at demo as combat engineers and even
they would need a team of over 100...so the theory provided fails like all the
"molten metal" theories.
No, you are wrong. Most of the building demos over the last 20 years
have been concrete and masonry buildings where dynamite is used. For
steel, though, such as the relatively-new Bldg 7 was made with, the demo
companies use small RDX charges to cut through the steel. Here's an
animation on the web page of a demo company of a 2,682 foot long steel
bridge being dropped with a total of only 62 lbs of RDX charges that
weighed less than a quarter pound each.
http://www.dem-tech.com/
It looks very possible that the someone could have demoed the relatively
simple Bldg 7 in an hour or so as long as they weren't worried about
making a mess or hitting something nearby, if they had the explosives
available, and if they had a few skilled people available to do the job.
--
Posted with OS/2 Warp 4.52
and Sea Monkey 1.5a
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| User: "Keith Schiffner" |
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27 Apr 2007 12:13:31 PM |
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"David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com> wrote in message
news:1334aghkfj5i9b1@corp.supernews.com...
Keith Schiffner wrote:
"David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com> wrote in message
news:133481ph1b8gs9a@corp.supernews.com...
Henry wrote:
David T. Johnson wrote:
Okay, let's assume that WTC7 was brought down deliberately.
You don't have to assume. It's a proved fact. Nothing but
a perfectly executed controlled demolition can cause a 47
story steel framed skyscraper to drop straight down at free
fall speed and perfect symmetry.
So what?
So, the demolition charges had to be placed prior to 9-11-01.
It's impossible to rig a 600 ft tall steel framed skyscraper
for a picture perfect demolition in a few hours. Wow.....
I think that the Bldg 7 could have been rigged for demo in an hour or two if
they were in a hurry and had the explosives available. In a normal
demolition, it might take a couple of weeks but a lot of that time is spent
removing crap from the building that isn't supposed to end up in the debris,
clearing the zone where the debris will fall, covering and protecting
adjacent structures, stuff like that. Also, they try and use a lot of small
charges carefully installed and coordinated so that the building drops in
exactly the right way. If they were in a hurry, they wouldn't have to worry
about that stuff. They could just set a few large charges in the lower
floors and let er rip. Blowing stuff up doesn't take long. I'll bet Navy
Seals could have done the job in half an hour.
using partial charges a drop like that often takes a ton or more. That is a
surgical drop...
A brute force drop is just that mass quanties of explosives and team of SEALS
would have improbable chance of moving and setting the amount necessary in
the time given. Even then they aren't as good at demo as combat engineers and
even they would need a team of over 100...so the theory provided fails like
all the "molten metal" theories.
No, you are wrong. Most of the building demos over the last 20 years have
been concrete and masonry buildings where dynamite is used. For steel,
though, such as the relatively-new Bldg 7 was made with, the demo companies
use small RDX charges to cut through the steel. Here's an animation on the
web page of a demo company of a 2,682 foot long steel bridge being dropped
with a total of only 62 lbs of RDX charges that weighed less than a quarter
pound each.
http://www.dem-tech.com/
It looks very possible that the someone could have demoed the relatively
simple Bldg 7 in an hour or so as long as they weren't worried about making a
mess or hitting something nearby, if they had the explosives available, and if
they had a few skilled people available to do the job.
I've couple decades with explosive things...so I'll make it simple. A SEAL team
could not have done it and to set the explosives in the available time would
have taken a large crew. No matter what explosives are used. Any way the best
way would have been cemtex as all fingers point away then. 8^) Those rough men
who undertake rough jobs are not the bunch of slavering Neanderthals lunatics
like poor deluded Hansteen would have you believe. Many have very interesting
degrees and doctorates.
I use common sense and experience where you lot use partial information and
innuendo. Where the rest of us use reason and logic the lunatics use
speculation. In my case experience with things that go boom and the professional
who use them is greater than the so called experts.
--
Keith Schiffner
History does not record anywhere at any time a religion that has any rational
basis. Religion is a crutch for people not strong enough to stand up to the
unknown without help. But, like dandruff, most people do have a religion and
spend time and money on it and seem to derive considerable pleasure from
fiddling with it.
Robert Heinlein
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| User: "David T. Johnson" |
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27 Apr 2007 12:40:48 PM |
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Keith Schiffner wrote:
"David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com> wrote in message
news:1334aghkfj5i9b1@corp.supernews.com...
Keith Schiffner wrote:
"David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com> wrote in message
news:133481ph1b8gs9a@corp.supernews.com...
Henry wrote:
David T. Johnson wrote:
Okay, let's assume that WTC7 was brought down deliberately.
You don't have to assume. It's a proved fact. Nothing but
a perfectly executed controlled demolition can cause a 47
story steel framed skyscraper to drop straight down at free
fall speed and perfect symmetry.
So what?
So, the demolition charges had to be placed prior to 9-11-01.
It's impossible to rig a 600 ft tall steel framed skyscraper
for a picture perfect demolition in a few hours. Wow.....
I think that the Bldg 7 could have been rigged for demo in an hour or two if
they were in a hurry and had the explosives available. In a normal
demolition, it might take a couple of weeks but a lot of that time is spent
removing crap from the building that isn't supposed to end up in the debris,
clearing the zone where the debris will fall, covering and protecting
adjacent structures, stuff like that. Also, they try and use a lot of small
charges carefully installed and coordinated so that the building drops in
exactly the right way. If they were in a hurry, they wouldn't have to worry
about that stuff. They could just set a few large charges in the lower
floors and let er rip. Blowing stuff up doesn't take long. I'll bet Navy
Seals could have done the job in half an hour.
using partial charges a drop like that often takes a ton or more. That is a
surgical drop...
A brute force drop is just that mass quanties of explosives and team of SEALS
would have improbable chance of moving and setting the amount necessary in
the time given. Even then they aren't as good at demo as combat engineers and
even they would need a team of over 100...so the theory provided fails like
all the "molten metal" theories.
No, you are wrong. Most of the building demos over the last 20 years have
been concrete and masonry buildings where dynamite is used. For steel,
though, such as the relatively-new Bldg 7 was made with, the demo companies
use small RDX charges to cut through the steel. Here's an animation on the
web page of a demo company of a 2,682 foot long steel bridge being dropped
with a total of only 62 lbs of RDX charges that weighed less than a quarter
pound each.
http://www.dem-tech.com/
It looks very possible that the someone could have demoed the relatively
simple Bldg 7 in an hour or so as long as they weren't worried about making a
mess or hitting something nearby, if they had the explosives available, and if
they had a few skilled people available to do the job.
I've couple decades with explosive things...so I'll make it simple. A SEAL team
could not have done it and to set the explosives in the available time would
have taken a large crew. No matter what explosives are used.
I think SEAL teams could have easily done the job. Say there were 50
columns per floor and you wanted to set 1-lb charges on each column on
three floors. That's 150 charges to set and then have them all go off
approximately together. Say that each charge takes 5 minutes to set to
hack through the column coverings and insulation. That would take 750
man-minutes. To do the job in two hours, then, would take about 6 SEALs
and each seal would have to carry 25 lbs of charges. SEALs would have
been great for the job because they are trained to work with explosions
and they are in good physical condition to access everywhere quickly
under difficult conditions and carry the gear.
Note that I'm not saying that any of this actually happened but only
that it could have happened. If it did happen, I don't see why the
people who did the job would not have talked about it later since it
wouldn't matter then.
--
Posted with OS/2 Warp 4.52
and Sea Monkey 1.5a
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| User: "Steve" |
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27 Apr 2007 05:57:40 PM |
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"David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com> wrote in message
news:1334dfhhh9a0f76@corp.supernews.com...
I think SEAL teams could have easily done the job. Say there were 50
columns per floor and you wanted to set 1-lb charges on each column on
three floors. That's 150 charges to set and then have them all go off
approximately together. Say that each charge takes 5 minutes to set to
hack through the column coverings and insulation. That would take 750
man-minutes. To do the job in two hours, then, would take about 6 SEALs
and each seal would have to carry 25 lbs of charges. SEALs would have
been great for the job because they are trained to work with explosions
and they are in good physical condition to access everywhere quickly under
difficult conditions and carry the gear.
Note that I'm not saying that any of this actually happened but only that
it could have happened. If it did happen, I don't see why the people who
did the job would not have talked about it later since it wouldn't matter
then.
Your lack of understanding in this matter is astounding.
- Double the time, the demolition team is not familiar with the building?
- What about OPSEC?
- Motive?
Bldg 7 was heavily damaged by debris from the towers...it went down without
pyrotechnic assistance
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| User: "Henry" |
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30 Apr 2007 08:08:22 PM |
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Steve wrote:
Bldg 7 was heavily damaged by debris from the towers...
No, it wasn't, as proved by photo evidence. And of course,
if it had been damged on only one side, that side would have
collapsed first, if at all. Of course, WTC7's collapse was
at free fall speed and it was perfectly symmetric all the way
around the building. The undamaged walls dropped at exactly the
same rate (free fall) as the allegedly heavily damaged walls.
The fires were not significant, either. You're mindlessly
parroting the comical lies and propaganda of treasonous war
criminals and terrorists.
it went down without pyrotechnic assistance
More kooky conspiracy nonsense.
Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
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| User: "" |
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27 Apr 2007 01:15:22 PM |
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On Apr 27, 12:40 pm, "David T. Johnson" <djohn...@isomedia.com> wrote:
Keith Schiffner wrote:
"David T. Johnson" <djohn...@isomedia.com> wrote in message
news:1334aghkfj5i9b1@corp.supernews.com...
Keith Schiffner wrote:
"David T. Johnson" <djohn...@isomedia.com> wrote in message
news:133481ph1b8gs9a@corp.supernews.com...
Henry wrote:
David T. Johnson wrote:
Okay, let's assume that WTC7 was brought down deliberately.
You don't have to assume. It's a proved fact. Nothing but
a perfectly executed controlled demolition can cause a 47
story steel framed skyscraper to drop straight down at free
fall speed and perfect symmetry.
So what?
So, the demolition charges had to be placed prior to 9-11-01.
It's impossible to rig a 600 ft tall steel framed skyscraper
for a picture perfect demolition in a few hours. Wow.....
I think that the Bldg 7 could have been rigged for demo in an hour or two if
they were in a hurry and had the explosives available. In a normal
demolition, it might take a couple of weeks but a lot of that time is spent
removing crap from the building that isn't supposed to end up in the debris,
clearing the zone where the debris will fall, covering and protecting
adjacent structures, stuff like that. Also, they try and use a lot of small
charges carefully installed and coordinated so that the building drops in
exactly the right way. If they were in a hurry, they wouldn't have to worry
about that stuff. They could just set a few large charges in the lower
floors and let er rip. Blowing stuff up doesn't take long. I'll bet Navy
Seals could have done the job in half an hour.
using partial charges a drop like that often takes a ton or more. That is a
surgical drop...
A brute force drop is just that mass quanties of explosives and team of SEALS
would have improbable chance of moving and setting the amount necessary in
the time given. Even then they aren't as good at demo as combat engineers and
even they would need a team of over 100...so the theory provided fails like
all the "molten metal" theories.
No, you are wrong. Most of the building demos over the last 20 years have
been concrete and masonry buildings where dynamite is used. For steel,
though, such as the relatively-new Bldg 7 was made with, the demo companies
use small RDX charges to cut through the steel. Here's an animation on the
web page of a demo company of a 2,682 foot long steel bridge being dropped
with a total of only 62 lbs of RDX charges that weighed less than a quarter
pound each.
http://www.dem-tech.com/
It looks very possible that the someone could have demoed the relatively
simple Bldg 7 in an hour or so as long as they weren't worried about making a
mess or hitting something nearby, if they had the explosives available, and if
they had a few skilled people available to do the job.
I've couple decades with explosive things...so I'll make it simple. A SEAL team
could not have done it and to set the explosives in the available time would
have taken a large crew. No matter what explosives are used.
I think SEAL teams could have easily done the job. Say there were 50
columns per floor and you wanted to set 1-lb charges on each column on
three floors. That's 150 charges to set and then have them all go off
approximately together. Say that each charge takes 5 minutes to set to
hack through the column coverings and insulation. That would take 750
man-minutes. To do the job in two hours, then, would take about 6 SEALs
and each seal would have to carry 25 lbs of charges. SEALs would have
been great for the job because they are trained to work with explosions
and they are in good physical condition to access everywhere quickly
under difficult conditions and carry the gear.
Note that I'm not saying that any of this actually happened but only
that it could have happened. If it did happen, I don't see why the
people who did the job would not have talked about it later since it
wouldn't matter then.
Because the illegitimate terrorist regime killed them all. Then they
killed the people who killed them. Then they killed the people who
killed the people who killed them. Then they cooked the books so that
all the insurance and pension benefits of all the people who were
killed, the people who killed them, and the people who killed the
people who killed them, all accrue to Cheney's so-called "blind
trust," which is neither blind nor to be trusted.
Isn't OBVIOUS?
Sheesh. Haven't you ever analyzed a national conspiracy before?
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| User: "Henry" |
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29 Apr 2007 09:21:11 AM |
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Keith Schiffner wrote:
Those rough men
who undertake rough jobs are not the bunch of slavering Neanderthals lunatics
like poor deluded Hansteen would have you believe. Many have very interesting
degrees and doctorates.
WTF are you whining about now, kook? Never mind, you probably
don't know, either - and even if you did, you wouldn't be able
to explain it though writing... <chuckle>
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://www.911truth.org
Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
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| User: "Henry" |
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29 Apr 2007 09:20:13 AM |
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David T. Johnson wrote:
Keith Schiffner wrote:
A brute force drop is just that mass quanties of explosives and team
of SEALS would have improbable chance of moving and setting the amount
necessary in the time given. Even then they aren't as good at demo as
combat engineers and even they would need a team of over 100...so the
theory provided fails like all the "molten metal" theories.
No, you are wrong.
He usually is, when you can understand what he's trying
to say - and probably even when you can't... <g>
Most of the building demos over the last 20 years
have been concrete and masonry buildings where dynamite is used. For
steel, though, such as the relatively-new Bldg 7 was made with, the demo
companies use small RDX charges to cut through the steel. Here's an
animation on the web page of a demo company of a 2,682 foot long steel
bridge being dropped with a total of only 62 lbs of RDX charges that
weighed less than a quarter pound each.
http://www.dem-tech.com/
It looks very possible that the someone could have demoed the relatively
simple Bldg 7 in an hour or so as long as they weren't worried about
making a mess or hitting something nearby, if they had the explosives
available, and if they had a few skilled people available to do the job.
Doubtful, but even if that was the case, the government wouldn't
be lying about it and claiming that a few small random fires somehow
managed to mimic a perfectly executed controlled demolition for the
first and only time in human history. It's a kooky theory that violates
the laws of physics and contradicts the evidence.
--
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://www.911truth.org
Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
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27 Apr 2007 12:43:53 PM |
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On Apr 26, 3:29 pm, Henry <9...@insidejob.gov> wrote:
David T. Johnson wrote:
Okay, let's assume that WTC7 was brought down deliberately.
You don't have to assume. It's a proved fact.
Proved Fact? Really! So when are the arrests going to be made, Hank?
If the facts are in-deed "proved" as you say, why is no-one being held
responisble?
--
Rayvan
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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30 Apr 2007 07:38:01 AM |
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On 27 Apr 2007 10:43:53 -0700, Rayvan <rvannuland@cachevision.com> wrote:
On Apr 26, 3:29 pm, Henry <9...@insidejob.gov> wrote:
David T. Johnson wrote:
Okay, let's assume that WTC7 was brought down deliberately.
You don't have to assume. It's a proved fact.
Proved Fact? Really! So when are the arrests going to be made, Hank?
If the facts are in-deed "proved" as you say, why is no-one being held
responisble?
They used a time warp machine, powered by cold fusion, to let the guilty escape
into the past and invent Pagan rituals.
Ben
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| User: "Henry" |
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30 Apr 2007 07:49:18 PM |
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Ben Kaufman wrote:
They used a time warp machine, powered by cold fusion, to let
the guilty escape into the past and invent Pagan rituals.
Magic fire conspiracy kooks sure do an amazing job of
addressing the specific facts, details, and hard evidence
of the 9-11 demolitions, don't they? You never see 'em
get stupid, mindlessly rant about time travel, their tin foil
hats, their pet moonbats, farm animals, ninja hit squads,
disdisinformation agents, glass coffee tables, beer cans,
"attack" the messengers, or avoid the tough questions.
<chuckle>
Look at the height of WTC7:
http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/9-11%20Picture1.jpg
Then look at how it collapsed:
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
Small random fires can't possibly make a steel framed building
do that. Not even a raging inferno can cause a steel building to
do anything even remotely close to that. Only a very well executed
controlled demolition can cause the total, instant, and symmetric
failure of all steel support columns that took place in WTC7.
That was very solidly braced and virtually undamaged steel frame.
It was dramatically over engineered to withstand hurricane force
winds and mild earth quakes. Look at the still photos at 1 second
intervals. The building stays perfectly straight and level all the
way down. Every one of the 58 steel perimeter columns failed at
exactly the same time, and they all failed totally, putting up
essentially zero resistance. That's proved by the collapse time of
6.6 seconds compared to 6 seconds free fall. The southwest corner
of WTC7 was damaged by debris from the north tower, and there were
small random fires in the building, although it's anyone's guess how
they were ignited. But asymmetric damage and random fires don't cause
steel framed buildings to collapse even slowly and asymmetrically.
This is what happens to steel framed buildings exposed to raging
infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
The 2000% reserve strength designed into the steel frames of
the towers could not possibly have been overcome by the force
of gravity alone. The fact that it was exceeded to such an
extreme degree that the undamaged steel frame offered no
measurable resistance, proves conclusively that the lower
structures were destroyed before being impacted.
From:
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060327100957690
"The Twin Towers and Why They Fell
It would help to begin with an accurate description of the WTC towers
in terms of quality of design and construction. In July of 1971, the
American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) presented a national award
judging the buildings to be "the engineering project that demonstrates
the greatest engineering skills and represents the greatest
contribution to engineering progress and mankind."3 Others noted that
"the World Trade Center towers would have an inherent capacity to
resist unforeseen calamities." This capacity stemmed from the use of
special high-strength steels. In particular, the perimeter columns
were designed with tremendous reserve strength whereby "live loads on
these columns can be increased more than 2,000% before failure occurs.
More on the incredible strength of the towers can be found here:
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/design.html
"There is evidence that the Twin Towers were designed with an even
greater measure of reserve strength than typical large buildings.
According to the calculations of engineers who worked on the Towers'
design, all the columns on one side of a Tower could be cut, as well
as the two corners and some of the columns on each adjacent side, and
the building would still be strong enough to withstand a
100-mile-per-hour wind. 3"
The massive steel frames of the towers were far too strong to
collapse only under their own weight. That's been proved through
physics, and that's why no other steel framed buildings have ever
collapsed that way unless they were demolished. See Gordon Ross'
excellent paper on momentum transfer on this page:
http://worldtradecentertruth.com/
As common sense would dictate, even if all the perimeter and
core columns near the top of the tower were somehow destroyed
simultaneously so that the top 20 stories or so dropped onto the
remaining undamaged frame, after some bending and compression,
the collapse would have stopped, or the upper block would have
fallen off to the side. Gordon Ross proves that with physics.
The official conspiracy requires us to believe that falling
directly =through= the massive undamaged steel frames, including
the 47 interconnected central core columns:
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/core.html
provided little more resistance than air. This is proved by
the fact that debris falling outside the towers hit the ground
about the same time as the debris falling through the towers.
Making the government's conspiracy theory even more implausible,
is the fact that the steel at the top of the towers was over
ten times lighter and thinner than the undamaged steel in the
lower section. Look at the massive core column cross section in
the bottom photo.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/core.html
The official conspiracy theory says that crushing 47 of those
columns, all interconnected with even more steel, =and= destroying
all the perimeter columns, =and= "pancaking" all the floors, and
stairways, produced about the same kinetic friction as falling
though air. That, of course, is not physically possible.
Observe the rotating and disintegrating block on the South
Tower.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/wtc2exp4.html
Notice that the corners are curved, as the block's internal
destruction is already taking place. If it had not been destroyed
through demolition, it would have continued to rotate and fall off
the building as an intact block. Also, notice that the block is
tilting towards the corner where it was impacted. The opposite
corner was undamaged by impact or fire, as proved by photo
evidence.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/wtc2exp1.html
As the top section of that tower is rotating, the high strength,
fire resistant perimeter columns on one side of the building are
being compressed, and on the opposite side, where the building
was not damaged by fire or impact, the weight above them is greatly
reduced.
Why do you think the undamaged steel perimeter frame with reduced
weight above it is exploding and collapsing at the same rate as
the fire and impact damaged side that has most of the weight of the
rotating block on it? Seems more than a little odd, doesn't it? Here's
some information on the perimeter columns.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/perimeter.html
Now watch the video titled, "Close-up of South Tower collapse
on this page:
http://plaguepuppy.net/public_html/collapse%20update/#videos
Does that look like the gradual bending and buckling of an
over heated steel frame to you? If so, what do you think is
causing those huge explosions and dust clouds that make it
look like a controlled demolition? Keep in mind that this is
at the onset of the collapse, so nothing is falling quickly
yet.
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http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://www.911truth.org
Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
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