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User: ""
Date: 21 Aug 2005 05:15:39 PM
Object: A Potentential Means to Obtain Light Speed and Beyond
A Theoretical Means of Faster than Light Space Travel
What can go faster than the speed of light? The only known entity is
gravity, which is at least 20 times faster than the speed of light and
possibly much faster. If gravity could be harnessed then one could in
theory exceed light speed. We know that all matter radiates gravity. If
artificial gravity could be created in tremendous quantity and
intensity, focused in a particular direction and controlled in its
amount of pull; then it could be used as a
power source for interstellar space travel The gravity could be aimed
at the sun or moon to lift a spaceship off of the earth and accelerate
it. Once beyond the major gravitational pull of the earth, it could be
pointed at another planet or star and increased in power to further
accelerate speed hopefully beyond the speed of light. This could make
interstellar travel feasible. Once you near the desired destination,
the gravitational generator could be
focused in the reverse direction to slow the spaceship down to make a
soft landing possible. This only a theoretical possibility; first one
must figure out how generate artificial gravity and then harness it as
a propulsion method. This will require the creation of super gravity
and the means of controlling it for the desired purpose.
Richard Franing
.

User: "Uncle Al"

Title: Re: A Potentential Means to Obtain Light Speed and Beyond 21 Aug 2005 06:19:33 PM
wrote:


A Theoretical Means of Faster than Light Space Travel

What can go faster than the speed of light? The only known entity is
gravity, which is at least 20 times faster than the speed of light and
possibly much faster.

[snip crap]
*****. Information cannot propagate faster than ligthspeed and
have causality maintained. Nothing carrying information travels
faster than empirical lightspeed if Lorentz Invariance holds.
http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0212121
Sergei Kopeikin
http://arXiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0301145
Clifford Will
http://arXiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0302294
Kopeikin's results
http://arXiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0302462
Kopeikin's analysis of results
http://arXiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0303346
Faber's dissent re parameterized post-Newtonian (PPN) model
http://arXiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0304006
Stuart Samuel's invalid analysis of Kopeikin
http://arXiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0311063
More Kopeikin
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0403060
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0412401
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0501001
More criticism of Kopeikin

We know that all matter radiates gravity.

*****. Gravitation is spacetime geometry. Nothign is "radiated."
<http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/tests.html>
Mathematics of gravitation
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
.
User: "Androcles Androcles@ MyPlace.org"

Title: Re: A Potentential Means to Obtain Light Speed and Beyond 21 Aug 2005 07:23:10 PM
"Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:43090C05.29C1926E@hate.spam.net...
[Snip crap]
Phuckwit.
Androcles
.

User: "Autymn D. C."

Title: Re: A Potentential Means to Obtain Light Speed and Beyond 22 Aug 2005 06:53:00 PM
Uncle Al wrote:

*****. Information cannot propagate faster than ligthspeed and
have causality maintained. Nothing carrying information travels
faster than empirical lightspeed if Lorentz Invariance holds.

http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0212121
Sergei Kopeikin
http://arXiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0301145
Clifford Will
http://arXiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0302294
Kopeikin's results
http://arXiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0302462
Kopeikin's analysis of results
http://arXiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0303346
Faber's dissent re parameterized post-Newtonian (PPN) model
http://arXiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0304006
Stuart Samuel's invalid analysis of Kopeikin
http://arXiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0311063
More Kopeikin
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0403060
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0412401
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0501001
More criticism of Kopeikin

Wrong again Al, stop perturbing the vacuum!
http://advancedphysics.org/viewthread.php?tid=2100#pid13718
-Aut
.
User: ""

Title: Re: A Potentential Means to Obtain Light Speed and Beyond 22 Aug 2005 07:03:55 PM
Nothing outraces C. But even with that "limitation" (and it is
actually a cybernetic control preventing chaos), the Global Brain, then
the Galactic Brain, and then (if galaxies contact each other) the
Universal Brain will form via radio communications.
- Ramanujan, Cybernetic version
.



User: "Too Many Kooks Spoil the Brothel"

Title: Re: A Potentential Means to Obtain Light Speed and Beyond 22 Aug 2005 05:48:13 AM
wrote:

A Theoretical Means of Faster than Light Space Travel


What can go faster than the speed of light?

Mach radiation has in effect an infinite speed, "travelling" along a
space-like surface.
.

User: "Mark Martin"

Title: Re: A Potentential Means to Obtain Light Speed and Beyond 21 Aug 2005 07:04:24 PM
wrote:

A Theoretical Means of Faster than Light Space Travel


What can go faster than the speed of light? The only known entity is
gravity, which is at least 20 times faster than the speed of light and
possibly much faster.

(*hoo-boy*) You've been reading Tom van Flandern.
-Mark Martin
.

User: "Sam Wormley"

Title: Re: A Potentential Means to Obtain Light Speed and Beyond 21 Aug 2005 05:25:52 PM
wrote:

A Theoretical Means of Faster than Light Space Travel


What can go faster than the speed of light? The only known entity is
gravity, which is at least 20 times faster than the speed of light and
possibly much faster.

GTR says that gravitational waves propagate at c. The first attempt
at measuring it agrees, but there are disputes about wgat was being
measured. Someday correlation between gravity wave detection and
photons from the same event will confirm that gravitational waves
propagate at c.
.
User: "Graham J Lee"

Title: Re: A Potentential Means to Obtain Light Speed and Beyond 21 Aug 2005 06:40:36 PM
Sam Wormley wrote:

rfraning@home.com wrote:

A Theoretical Means of Faster than Light Space Travel


What can go faster than the speed of light? The only known entity is
gravity, which is at least 20 times faster than the speed of light and
possibly much faster.



GTR says that gravitational waves propagate at c. The first attempt
at measuring it agrees, but there are disputes about wgat was being
measured. Someday correlation between gravity wave detection and
photons from the same event will confirm that gravitational waves
propagate at c.

You appear to have made your mind up before any evidence arrives...not
the best form of science but certainly a popular one :-)
.
User: "Sam Wormley"

Title: Re: A Potentential Means to Obtain Light Speed and Beyond 21 Aug 2005 06:42:03 PM
Graham J Lee wrote:

Sam Wormley wrote:

rfraning@home.com wrote:

A Theoretical Means of Faster than Light Space Travel


What can go faster than the speed of light? The only known entity is
gravity, which is at least 20 times faster than the speed of light and
possibly much faster.




GTR says that gravitational waves propagate at c. The first attempt
at measuring it agrees, but there are disputes about wgat was being
measured. Someday correlation between gravity wave detection and
photons from the same event will confirm that gravitational waves
propagate at c.


You appear to have made your mind up before any evidence arrives...not
the best form of science but certainly a popular one :-)

Have you an alternative theory making a prediction for gravitational
waves propagating other than at c?
.
User: "Graham J Lee"

Title: Re: A Potentential Means to Obtain Light Speed and Beyond 22 Aug 2005 04:41:19 AM
Sam Wormley wrote:

Graham J Lee wrote:

Sam Wormley wrote:

rfraning@home.com wrote:

A Theoretical Means of Faster than Light Space Travel


What can go faster than the speed of light? The only known entity is
gravity, which is at least 20 times faster than the speed of light and
possibly much faster.





GTR says that gravitational waves propagate at c. The first attempt
at measuring it agrees, but there are disputes about wgat was being
measured. Someday correlation between gravity wave detection and
photons from the same event will confirm that gravitational waves
propagate at c.



You appear to have made your mind up before any evidence arrives...not
the best form of science but certainly a popular one :-)



Have you an alternative theory making a prediction for gravitational
waves propagating other than at c?

No. That still doesn't make mine consistent with any hypothetical
future experiment, and I'd be foolish to proclaim that it was.
.




User: "John Sefton"

Title: Re: A Potentential Means to Obtain Light Speed and Beyond 21 Aug 2005 10:46:35 PM
wrote:

A Theoretical Means of Faster than Light Space Travel


What can go faster than the speed of light? The only known entity is
gravity, which is at least 20 times faster than the speed of light and
possibly much faster. If gravity could be harnessed then one could in
theory exceed light speed. We know that all matter radiates gravity. If
artificial gravity could be created in tremendous quantity and
intensity, focused in a particular direction and controlled in its
amount of pull; then it could be used as a
power source for interstellar space travel The gravity could be aimed
at the sun or moon to lift a spaceship off of the earth and accelerate
it. Once beyond the major gravitational pull of the earth, it could be
pointed at another planet or star and increased in power to further
accelerate speed hopefully beyond the speed of light. This could make
interstellar travel feasible. Once you near the desired destination,
the gravitational generator could be
focused in the reverse direction to slow the spaceship down to make a
soft landing possible. This only a theoretical possibility; first one
must figure out how generate artificial gravity and then harness it as
a propulsion method. This will require the creation of super gravity
and the means of controlling it for the desired purpose.


Richard Franing

So sweet!
According to the galaxy Model for the atom
http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/
galaxies are atoms.
The quasars that Halton Arp has seen being ejected from
galaxies at 9000 kps and calling 'protogalaxies'
are no such thing but actually the galaxian equivalent
to photons.
This means that *all* electrons emit the electron
equivalent of photons at 33.3333 c.
*This* is what causes gravity.
Gravity travels at 33.33repeat lightspeed.
John
.
User: "Sam Wormley"

Title: Re: A Potentential Means to Obtain Light Speed and Beyond 21 Aug 2005 10:57:26 PM
John Sefton wrote:


According to the galaxy Model for the atom
http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/
galaxies are atoms.
The quasars that Halton Arp has seen being ejected from
galaxies at 9000 kps and calling 'protogalaxies'
are no such thing but actually the galaxian equivalent
to photons.
This means that *all* electrons emit the electron
equivalent of photons at 33.3333 c.
*This* is what causes gravity.
Gravity travels at 33.33repeat lightspeed.
John

***** Sefton! There is a reason you are registered at crank dot net.
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22GALAXY+MODEL+For+The+ATOM%22+site%3Awww.crank.net
.



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