A short, exact equation for the perimeter of ellipse, without pi, angles, or eliptic modulus



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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "Golden Boar"
Date: 10 Oct 2005 06:33:02 AM
Object: A short, exact equation for the perimeter of ellipse, without pi, angles, or eliptic modulus
An ellipse can be split into an infinite number of evenly spaced lines
of varying length(height). These lines pass through the x-axis at 90
degrees. The first and last lines have a length of 0 and the middle
line has a length equal to the height of the ellipse. The distance
along the x-axis between each line is l/a. The x-axis starts from the
left at 0, there are no negative x values.
To convert these x values into normal Cartesian values: x-l/2.
The distance between a specific line and the first line is:
x = l*b/a
The height of a specific line is:
y = 2*h*sqrt(a*b-b^2)/a
The area of the ellipse is:
A = (l/a)*SUMOF(2*h*sqrt(a*b-b^2)/a)
where b = 0 to a.
a
SUMOF()
b=0
The circumference of the ellipse is:
C =
2*SUMOF(sqrt((l/a)^2+((h/a)*(sqrt(a*(b+1)-(b+1)^2)-sqrt(a*b-b^2)))^2))
where b = 0 to a-1.
a-1
SUMOF()
b=0
l is the length of the ellipse.
h is the height of the ellipse.
a is the number of points equally distributed along l.
b is a specific point along l.
0 = b = a, in steps of 1.
x is the distance between the start of the ellipse and point b.
y is the perpendicular expansion of b, centred on l (the height of a
line going through the x axis at 90 degrees).
A is the area of the ellipse.
C is the circumference of the ellipse.
For an ellipse of length=2 and height=1, the exact infinite series
gives a value of 4.844224110291 (62 terms).
My equation gives a value of 4.84422411023477 (a=1*10^9 points).
I have posted these equations on wiki, you can see them more clearly
at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ellipse
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User: "Uncle Al"

Title: Re: A short, exact equation for the perimeter of ellipse, without pi,angles, or eliptic modulus 10 Oct 2005 12:01:52 PM
Golden Boar wrote:


An ellipse can be split into an infinite number of evenly spaced lines
of varying length(height). These lines pass through the x-axis at 90
degrees. The first and last lines have a length of 0 and the middle
line has a length equal to the height of the ellipse. The distance
along the x-axis between each line is l/a. The x-axis starts from the
left at 0, there are no negative x values.
To convert these x values into normal Cartesian values: x-l/2.

[snip]
Ah, fella - calculus.
http://www.csgnetwork.com/circumellipse.html
There is no avoiding the formula. Euler's equation unites analytic
geometry with algebra.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
.
User: "Golden Boar"

Title: Re: A short, exact equation for the perimeter of ellipse, without pi, angles, or eliptic modulus 11 Oct 2005 11:09:51 AM
Just in case you are interested, my equation only becomes less accurate
than the one on the above link when using less than 7 points.
.
User: "Golden Boar"

Title: Re: A short, exact equation for the perimeter of ellipse, without pi, angles, or eliptic modulus 11 Oct 2005 11:14:22 AM
I meant 6 points, not 7.
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User: "Golden Boar"

Title: Re: A short, exact equation for the perimeter of ellipse, without pi, angles, or eliptic modulus 10 Oct 2005 12:31:40 PM
Uncle Al wrote:

Golden Boar wrote:


An ellipse can be split into an infinite number of evenly spaced lines
of varying length(height). These lines pass through the x-axis at 90
degrees. The first and last lines have a length of 0 and the middle
line has a length equal to the height of the ellipse. The distance
along the x-axis between each line is l/a. The x-axis starts from the
left at 0, there are no negative x values.
To convert these x values into normal Cartesian values: x-l/2.

[snip]

Ah, fella - calculus.

http://www.csgnetwork.com/circumellipse.html

There is no avoiding the formula. Euler's equation unites analytic
geometry with algebra.

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf

My equation is a hell of alot more accurate than the one on the above
link.
As I said before, when using a billion(10^9) points, the equation is
near enough exactly the same as the exact infinite series using 62
terms.
.


User: ""

Title: Re: A short, exact equation for the perimeter of ellipse, without pi, angles, or eliptic modulus 10 Oct 2005 06:39:24 AM
I've discovered that if you try to pick a VW up by its bumper, it'll
come right off in your hands. So there.
.
User: "Golden Boar"

Title: Re: A short, exact equation for the perimeter of ellipse, without pi, angles, or eliptic modulus 10 Oct 2005 06:42:53 AM
Good for you, ya loon. Do you want a medal or something?
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