Science > Physics > absolutism of number flow from principle of relativity
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25 Feb 2007 10:59:12 AM |
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absolutism of number flow from principle of relativity |
The Galilean Relativity hypothesis is typically stated:
"Any two observers moving with constant speed and direction, with
respect to one another, will obtain the same results for all
experiments."
We know that reducing the units of dimensions does not change the
physical process.
Think what it really means- it means that if we use coordinate systems
that disappear, so that units get smaller and smaller, physics still
hold.
If we consider there might exist some threshold under which there are
no dimensions at all, no spatial, no time, does physics laws still
hold? They should , but how is that possible?
If there are no dimensions left, what is speed? Should it also
disappear? Yes it does, as ratio of dimensions m/s but it does NOT AS
VALUE. If there are no dimensions, all points are equivalent at the
same time, so in fact, x1=x2 t1=t2 for any 2 points and and 2 moments
of time. As v= (x2-x1)/(t2-t1) m/s it becomes a limit of type 0/0 and
no dimensions; I claim that this limit is a NUMBER. By the way, the
same happens if we increase dimensions trying to reach infinity.
Imagine there is again some maximum size of space and time dimension
we can not exceed; after that, dimensions does not exist. The limit
will be of type infinity/infinity , but result- the same.
So , when there is no space and time, velocity = NUMBER without
Dimensions!
As dimensions dissappear, values and physical processes responsible
for them DO NOT, it seems to me.
What do these speed numbers do ? --> they flow. Why? Because, if we
imagine there is a number and dimensions appear going above threshold,
physical processes that were responsible for the number in first place
should get organized immedeately with all the right relations and
physical dynamics. The value of the speed we were measuring should
remain the same when we mentally take dimensions away and then
mentally return them. I guess if we want this to work, we have to
require that numbers REMEMBER the physical process that caused them to
be even if we take dimensions away.
The question is, how is this number flow organized? What are relative
velocities of Adjacent numbers? Which number are adjacent in this
flow? How structures appear in this flow and what are they? Some of
them are known-e.g. sporadic groups, Riemann surfaces etc.
How to measure the level of organization in this flow ? Entropy =
information S is an obvious parameter.
In essence, every physical process has a unique representation in this
number flow when dimensions vanish. All processes with the same
relationships between numbers but different scales end up as 1 process
in this number flow.
Can someone suggest some references to study this question deeper?
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| User: "Dirk Van de moortel" |
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| Title: Re: absolutism of number flow from principle of relativity |
25 Feb 2007 11:10:35 AM |
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<ivars.fabriciuss@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1172422752.550976.34640@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The Galilean Relativity hypothesis is typically stated:
"Any two observers moving with constant speed and direction, with
respect to one another, will obtain the same results for all
experiments."
We know that reducing the units of dimensions does not change the
physical process.
Think what it really means- it means that if we use coordinate systems
that disappear
Then we can't measure things anymore, and the we leave the
domain of physics to enter the domain of armchair philosophy.
Dirk Vdm
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: absolutism of number flow from principle of relativity |
25 Feb 2007 03:41:41 PM |
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On Feb 25, 7:10 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
SperM.hotmail.com> wrote:
<ivars.fabrici...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1172422752.550976.34640@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The Galilean Relativity hypothesis is typically stated:
"Any two observers moving with constant speed and direction, with
respect to one another, will obtain the same results for all
experiments."
We know that reducing the units of dimensions does not change the
physical process.
Think what it really means- it means that if we use coordinate systems
that disappear
Then we can't measure things anymore, and the we leave the
domain of physics to enter the domain of armchair philosophy.
Dirk Vdm
But we only do it in our heads, so the process we are looking shall be
going on OK. ; With the same speed it had in whatever system we chose
to measure it.
We only reduce size of UNITS, nothing else
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