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PROGRAM
36th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference
March 14-18, 2005
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/program.pdf (PDF
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Bob Clark
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"Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@yahoo.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:1108406286.692139.197720@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
PROGRAM
36th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference
March 14-18, 2005
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/program.pdf (PDF
file)
Darn, I got fouled up in using Acrobat Reader to get to the achtual
abstracts when you posted this two weeks ago. I got the hang of it now and
start reading. It's very exiting.
Carsten
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"Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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PROGRAM
36th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference
March 14-18, 2005
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/program.pdf (PDF
file)
Bob Clark
Every other work in the abstracts are ....bacteria....microbes....life!
I've got some reading to do.....thanks!
Jonathan
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jonathan wrote:
"Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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PROGRAM
36th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference
March 14-18, 2005
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/program.pdf (PDF
file)
Bob Clark
Every other work in the abstracts are ....bacteria....microbes....life!
and another planet goes merrily to hell.
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15 Feb 2005 10:49:09 PM |
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"Jo Schaper" <joschapern4ospam@2socketdot.no5net> wrote in message
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jonathan wrote:
"Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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PROGRAM
36th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference
March 14-18, 2005
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/program.pdf (PDF
file)
Bob Clark
Every other word in the abstracts are ....bacteria....microbes....life!
and another planet goes merrily to hell.
Huh!
What an incredibly depressing outlook. Life ruins things?
Your view is derived, I believe, from instinct not intellect.
An animal in the forest notices only what moves, predator
or prey. So it is change, what is different, that we notice and
are frightened of. This is true for ecology or even bigotry.
An intelligent view would see what is the common 'element' in
all around us. And it is not a particle or a force. It is the driving
of systems far from equilibrium....change....that is the common
source of all order and creation.
You draw up experiments and measure only what
changes, which is the method of animals. This is what
objective science has done to us. Instinctual and
backwards
Is it any wonder so many confuse heaven for hell.
Jonathan
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16 Feb 2005 07:54:53 AM |
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In article <4212d481$1_3@127.0.0.1>, "jonathan" <Write@Instead.com> wrote:
"Jo Schaper" <joschapern4ospam@2socketdot.no5net> wrote in message
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jonathan wrote:
..........
You draw up experiments and measure only what
changes, which is the method of animals. This is what
objective science has done to us. Instinctual and
backwards
Is it any wonder so many confuse heaven for hell.
Jonathan
What frightens me most is the desire (or the lust?) of too many scientists
to be the first to find life somewhere outside the terrestrial realm. This
presently distorts any rational approach, and brings discredit to science
and scientists.
J.J.
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16 Feb 2005 08:10:17 PM |
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"jacques jedwab" <jjedwab@ulb.ac.be> wrote in message
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In article <4212d481$1_3@127.0.0.1>, "jonathan" <Write@Instead.com> wrote:
"Jo Schaper" <joschapern4ospam@2socketdot.no5net> wrote in message
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jonathan wrote:
.........
You draw up experiments and measure only what
changes, which is the method of animals. This is what
objective science has done to us. Instinctual and
backwards
Is it any wonder so many confuse heaven for hell.
Jonathan
What frightens me most is the desire (or the lust?) of too many scientists
to be the first to find life somewhere outside the terrestrial realm. This
presently distorts any rational approach, and brings discredit to science
and scientists.
The very latest non-linear mathematics strongly suggests that
life is not just elsewhere, but everywhere.
The only irrational position is that there's nothing
to get excited about.
It is normal to be emotional about truth that holds
the possibility of ending the eternal struggle between
science and religion. Such a timeless and transforming
discovery should compel passion, if not, then nothing
can. Being dispassionate about this is perverse.
Jonathan
"Exhilaration is the Breeze
That lifts us from the ground,
And leaves us in another place
Whose statement is not found;
Returns us not, but after time
We soberly descend,
A little newer for the term
Upon enchanted ground."
By E Dickinson
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16 Feb 2005 08:10:17 PM |
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"jacques jedwab" <jjedwab@ulb.ac.be> wrote in message
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In article <4212d481$1_3@127.0.0.1>, "jonathan" <Write@Instead.com> wrote:
"Jo Schaper" <joschapern4ospam@2socketdot.no5net> wrote in message
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jonathan wrote:
.........
You draw up experiments and measure only what
changes, which is the method of animals. This is what
objective science has done to us. Instinctual and
backwards
Is it any wonder so many confuse heaven for hell.
Jonathan
What frightens me most is the desire (or the lust?) of too many scientists
to be the first to find life somewhere outside the terrestrial realm. This
presently distorts any rational approach, and brings discredit to science
and scientists.
The very latest non-linear mathematics strongly suggests that
life is not just elsewhere, but everywhere.
The only irrational position is that there's nothing
to get excited about.
It is normal to be emotional about truth that holds
the possibility of ending the eternal struggle between
science and religion. Such a timeless and transforming
discovery should compel passion, if not, then nothing
can. Being dispassionate about this is perverse.
Jonathan
"Exhilaration is the Breeze
That lifts us from the ground,
And leaves us in another place
Whose statement is not found;
Returns us not, but after time
We soberly descend,
A little newer for the term
Upon enchanted ground."
By E Dickinson
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J.J.
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16 Feb 2005 08:10:17 PM |
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"jacques jedwab" <jjedwab@ulb.ac.be> wrote in message
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In article <4212d481$1_3@127.0.0.1>, "jonathan" <Write@Instead.com> wrote:
"Jo Schaper" <joschapern4ospam@2socketdot.no5net> wrote in message
news:1115ehjf46v2j61@corp.supernews.com...
jonathan wrote:
.........
You draw up experiments and measure only what
changes, which is the method of animals. This is what
objective science has done to us. Instinctual and
backwards
Is it any wonder so many confuse heaven for hell.
Jonathan
What frightens me most is the desire (or the lust?) of too many scientists
to be the first to find life somewhere outside the terrestrial realm. This
presently distorts any rational approach, and brings discredit to science
and scientists.
The very latest non-linear mathematics strongly suggests that
life is not just elsewhere, but everywhere.
The only irrational position is that there's nothing
to get excited about.
It is normal to be emotional about truth that holds
the possibility of ending the eternal struggle between
science and religion. Such a timeless and transforming
discovery should compel passion, if not, then nothing
can. Being dispassionate about this is perverse.
Jonathan
"Exhilaration is the Breeze
That lifts us from the ground,
And leaves us in another place
Whose statement is not found;
Returns us not, but after time
We soberly descend,
A little newer for the term
Upon enchanted ground."
By E Dickinson
s
J.J.
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16 Feb 2005 10:04:45 AM |
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"jacques jedwab" <jjedwab@ulb.ac.be> wrote in message
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In article <4212d481$1_3@127.0.0.1>, "jonathan" <Write@Instead.com> wrote:
"Jo Schaper" <joschapern4ospam@2socketdot.no5net> wrote in message
news:1115ehjf46v2j61@corp.supernews.com...
jonathan wrote:
.........
You draw up experiments and measure only what
changes, which is the method of animals. This is what
objective science has done to us. Instinctual and
backwards
Is it any wonder so many confuse heaven for hell.
Jonathan
What frightens me most is the desire (or the lust?) of too many scientists
to be the first to find life somewhere outside the terrestrial realm. This
presently distorts any rational approach, and brings discredit to science
and scientists.
In what way?
Which scientists in particular did you have in mind?
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16 Feb 2005 03:52:46 PM |
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Jonathan
What frightens me most is the desire (or the lust?) of too many scientists
to be the first to find life somewhere outside the terrestrial realm. This
presently distorts any rational approach, and brings discredit to science
and scientists.
In what way?
Which scientists in particular did you have in mind?
Dr's Stein and Frank ?
Id-ten-T
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16 Feb 2005 01:31:01 PM |
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Jo Schaper wrote:
jonathan wrote:
"Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1108406286.692139.197720@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
PROGRAM
36th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference
March 14-18, 2005
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/program.pdf
(PDF
file)
Bob Clark
Every other work in the abstracts are
.....bacteria....microbes....life!
and another planet goes merrily to hell.
Keep in mind all these abstracts are very preliminary. The conclusion
of a subsurface frozen sea would have to be confirmed by independent
evidence. The MARSIS ground penetrating radar on Mars Express and the
SHARAD gpr on Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter might be able to provide this
confirming evidence.
Bob Clark
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18 Feb 2005 11:56:40 PM |
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Hello--
I am a graduate student and I will be giving my first talk at LPSC in
March. Any suggestions/advice?
--Heather
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22 Feb 2005 12:20:31 PM |
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wrote in message news:<1108792600.522429.200800@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>...
I am a graduate student and I will be giving my first talk at LPSC in
March. Any suggestions/advice?
Just keep in mind that everyone, even veterans, is nervous before a talk.
That just disappears once you started talking.
As others have pointed out, the best way is to practice the talk several
times before. Important is to speak the whole thing, don't just repeat
it in mind. My experience is that the actual talk is one or two minutes
shorter.
Apart from this, LPSC is usually a great conference (although rather big
this year).
Cheers,
Andreas
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Andreas Morlok
Cosmic Mineralogy
The Natural History Museum
London
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24 Feb 2005 12:00:17 AM |
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The plan is to practice my talk in front of my advisor and a few other
professors, as well as some students, here at Arizona State, and then
for my advisors at LPI the weekend before LPSC.
--Heather
georion23.com
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24 Feb 2005 04:23:44 AM |
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In article <1109224817.403254.171950@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
<georion23@yahoo.com> wrote:
The plan is to practice my talk in front of my advisor and a few other
professors, as well as some students, here at Arizona State, and then
for my advisors at LPI the weekend before LPSC.
That's a /good/ plan. I don't suppose there's a smaller meeting before
the big day that you could submit a similar paper to, just so that it
gets a live outing before the main meeting? I've encouraged my students
to do that in the past - present a variation of the talk they've
submitted for the big European spring meeting at one of the smaller
UK meetings a few weeks before. It seems to work pretty well in
establishing confidence (they both got awards for outstanding student
papers at the last AGU, so between us we're doing something right).
One other small point for the day of your talk - buy a small chocolate
bar or similar & eat it 10 minutes before - that way the sugar gives
you a bit of a lift just when you need it. It sounds silly, I know,
but it can help if you're tired.
Good luck with the paper and enjoy the meeting.
--
Andy Breen ~ Interplanetary Scintillation Research Group
http://users.aber.ac.uk/azb/
"Time has stopped, says the Black Lion clock
and eternity has begun" (Dylan Thomas)
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24 Feb 2005 04:33:26 AM |
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(ANDREW ROBERT BREEN) wrote:
One other small point for the day of your talk - buy a small chocolate
bar or similar & eat it 10 minutes before
What a wimpish suggestion, Doc. What happened to the half-jack of gin
that used to be traditional?
Eugene L Griessel www.dynagen.co.za/eugene
A man should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a
hog, sail a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts,
build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders,
cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyse a problem, pitch manure,
program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialisation is for insects.
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24 Feb 2005 04:44:43 AM |
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In article <421dad46.10099609@news.uunet.co.za>,
Eugene Griessel <eugene.@dynagen..co..za> wrote:
azb@aber.ac.uk (ANDREW ROBERT BREEN) wrote:
One other small point for the day of your talk - buy a small chocolate
bar or similar & eat it 10 minutes before
What a wimpish suggestion, Doc. What happened to the half-jack of gin
that used to be traditional?
We mere mortals can't measure up to the giants of the past. OTOH
afternoon sessions of the meetings are a lot more productive than
they might have been once.. :)
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Andy Breen ~ Interplanetary Scintillation Research Group
http://users.aber.ac.uk/azb/
"Who dies with the most toys wins" (Gary Barnes)
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19 Feb 2005 06:46:16 AM |
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wrote:
Hello--
I am a graduate student and I will be giving my first talk at LPSC in
March. Any suggestions/advice?
--Heather
Congratulations. Can't give advice since I haven't posted there
myself.
But perhaps you could ask some questions I'm curious about.
1.)Why hasn't THEMIS been used to characterize White Rock? A poster to
this LPSC will argue Mars Express imaging suggests it might be
evaporitic after all.
2.)Does the poster suggesting thin liquid water films currently in
Gusev imply that that may actually have been mud seen early in the
Spirit mission?
Bob Clark
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19 Feb 2005 09:51:46 AM |
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I'm sure other people can come with other interesting questions.
Here's another one:
3.)Will Mars Express image the Malin/Edgett gullies in color?
cf.,
Newsgroups: sci.astro, alt.sci.planetary, sci.astro.amateur
From: (Robert Clark)
Date: 4 Dec 2003 12:13:36 -0800
Local: Thurs, Dec 4 2003 12:13 pm
Subject: Color image of Mars from Mars Express.
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.astro.amateur/msg/ceaf790f6aa4b68c
Bob Clark
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10 Mar 2005 01:47:20 PM |
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Robert Clark wrote:
georion23@yahoo.com wrote:
Hello--
I am a graduate student and I will be giving my first talk at LPSC
in
March. Any suggestions/advice?
--Heather
Congratulations. Can't give advice since I haven't posted there
myself.
But perhaps you could ask some questions I'm curious about.
1.)Why hasn't THEMIS been used to characterize White Rock? A poster
to
this LPSC will argue Mars Express imaging suggests it might be
evaporitic after all.
2.)Does the poster suggesting thin liquid water films currently in
Gusev imply that that may actually have been mud seen early in the
Spirit mission?
Bob Clark
Is it believed the Spirit Navcam images on this page show actual halos
or is it just an optical artifact:
MER Spirit: Sol 345.
http://mars.lyle.org/bysol/2-345.html
This page has examples and explanations of halos caused by ice crystals
on Earth:
Frequent Halos.
http://www.sundog.clara.co.uk/halo/common.htm
If the Navcam images are real halos that might suggest there were thin
non-visible ice water clouds over the Spirit site as were the visible
cirrus clouds seen over Meridiani.
Liquid water droplets can also form halos:
Fogbow.
http://www.sundog.clara.co.uk/droplets/fogbow.htm
Are there differences between the halos caused by ice and liquid water?
Bob Clark
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10 Mar 2005 01:49:07 PM |
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Robert Clark wrote:
georion23@yahoo.com wrote:
Hello--
I am a graduate student and I will be giving my first talk at LPSC
in
March. Any suggestions/advice?
--Heather
Congratulations. Can't give advice since I haven't posted there
myself.
But perhaps you could ask some questions I'm curious about.
1.)Why hasn't THEMIS been used to characterize White Rock? A poster
to
this LPSC will argue Mars Express imaging suggests it might be
evaporitic after all.
2.)Does the poster suggesting thin liquid water films currently in
Gusev imply that that may actually have been mud seen early in the
Spirit mission?
Bob Clark
This thread on the Mars Exploration Rover Forum discussed the clouds
seen from the rovers:
Clouds On Mars.
http://mer.rlproject.com/index.php?showtopic=476&hl=
Are there any multi-filter PANCAM images of the clouds?
They might be used to calibrate the color combinations working on the
assumption the clouds should be white.
cf.,
From: Robert Clark (rgregoryclark@yahoo.com)
Subject: Mars Express image of Valles Marineris shows green!
Newsgroups: sci.astro, alt.sci.planetary, alt.astronomy,
sci.astro.amateur, sci.bio.misc
Date: 2004-01-24 04:20:40 PST
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?th=8ea6ade76ffbdae0&
Bob Clark
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Thanks. This is my first LPSC and I will be presenting on the
conditions of the Martian mantle, so I'm afraid I can't answer any of
your questions. Sorry.
--Heather
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In article <1108792600.522429.200800@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
<georion23@yahoo.com> wrote:
I am a graduate student and I will be giving my first talk at LPSC in
March. Any suggestions/advice?
Some years ago I wrote up a set of suggestions for first-time paper
presenters. In case they're of use:
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Run through your talk at least once in advance so you know how long it
will take. It probably needs to be cut down. My talks usually need to
be cut by at least a factor of two. Doing this in advance is far superior
to improvising when you discover you only have five more minutes. Don't
forget to leave time for questions at the end.
Doing a practice run in front of a mirror (or a tape recorder!) can be
revealing. Mumbling, speaking to your notes, etc. can be fought
effectively by speaking only when you have eye contact with a member of
the audience. Not the same person all the time, though!
Avoid wah-wah syndrome: if you're wearing a lapel microphone, don't keep
turning your head to look at the screen while you're talking, because it
makes your voice fade in and out. Put your notes on paper, not on your
slides (or make a paper copy of your slides), so you can have your notes
in *front* of you while you talk.
Say something interesting. If short of time, pick one subtopic and say
something interesting about it, and forget the rest. Few things annoy an
audience more than hearing "well, the rest of that's in the paper" every
two minutes. Especially since it usually comes just as things start to
get interesting. If there isn't time to cover everything, *don't try*.
(Remember this if you find yourself *unexpectedly* short of time. Dashing
through half a dozen topics in five minutes means you can't say anything
interesting about any of them.)
Say something your competitors would find fascinating. If your talk bores
them, it probably bores the rest of the audience too.
Remember that your audience can read. Rather than reciting the results
in the paper, talk about how you got them, especially what problems you
solved and what mistakes you made, or about the implications.
Plan your slides for visual content. Pictures should be worth a thousand
words. If a slide isn't useful when shown backwards, it has too many
words and not enough picture -- take it out. The outline of your talk
belongs in your notes, not on your slides.
Using visual media for things with visual content also does wonders for
the poor people at the back of the audience who can't read your 3-point
type anyway. If you *must* put words on your slides, 24-point type is
about the minimum. For viewgraphs, stand up and drop them on the floor at
your feet; if you can't read them that way, the print's too small. If
using a video projector, do remember that they often don't reproduce fine
detail well, especially thin horizontal lines.
Video-projector slides should simply pop up, complete. Audiences quickly
get sick of waiting while the animated dancing turtles assemble your next
slide... especially if you stand there silent until they finish. This
also applies to viewgraphs: put the whole viewgraph up at once. Coyly
revealing it a line at a time, by sliding a cover sheet down, distracts
both you and the audience.
The audience has come to listen to you talk, not to watch you fiddle with
the computer and the video equipment. If there is the slightest doubt
about whether your desired video setup will work (e.g. whether your laptop
will talk to the projector), resolve it *in advance*. If you can't do
that, then be prepared to deliver some approximation to your talk with
*no* video, and activate that plan if you can't sort out the video within
one (1) minute.
Visit the washroom shortly before your talk.
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| User: "Steve Willner" |
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| Title: Re: Abstracts for the 2005 Lunar and Planetary Science Conference are up. |
22 Feb 2005 04:23:57 PM |
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In article <IC6E7r.Iwv@spsystems.net>,
(Henry Spencer) writes:
[Much excellent advice snipped.]
Run through your talk at least once in advance so you know how long it
will take.
If this is really your first talk, you should present it to your
advisor before the meeting. Before doing that, you might want to
present it to one or more of your fellow students.
Say something interesting. If short of time, pick one subtopic and say
something interesting about it, and forget the rest.
This is crucial. How long is the talk supposed to be? In the
5-minute talks that are common in astronomy these days, you cannot
present even one idea in any depth. You can just about manage one
idea in a 10-minute talk, and 15 minutes will let you do it justice.
In a full hour talk, you might get away with as many as three ideas,
but that's the maximum.
Another rule of thumb is to use about one viewgraph per minute of the
talk.
Of course these are rules of thumb, and things can differ in
particular cases or perhaps in fields other than astronomy. On the
other hand, remember that your audience will be listening to lots of
talks that day. If you want them to remember yours, you can't try to
cover too many topics. It's nice if you can have a "sound bite" that
summarizes your basic idea.
One other thing... occasionally there is some idiot in the audience
who has to show he is superior to the speaker by asking some
unanswerable question. A sufficient answer for such a case is "I've
never looked into that," or something similar. The situation is not
frequent, but there's no reason to get flustered or embarrassed if it
should arise.
Most of all: enjoy the meeting! Meeting other people in your field
is very useful and usually loads of fun. See if you can't work in a
couple of nice dinners at your advisor's expense.
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Steve Willner Phone 617-495-7123
Cambridge, MA 02138 USA
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Abstracts for the 2005 Lunar and Planetary Science Conference are up. |
19 Feb 2005 07:42:23 PM |
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Thanks for your help!
--Heather
georion23.com
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| User: "Paul Henney" |
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| Title: Re: Abstracts for the 2005 Lunar and Planetary Science Conference are up. |
20 Feb 2005 03:22:21 PM |
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Also,
Just relax and enjoy it...they are really all your friends in the audience
and want to see you present your work..they wouldn't be there if they
weren't interested in what you have got to say :-)
BTW whats are you saying about the Mars mantle..I'm a geochemist myself :-)
pj
<georion23@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1108863743.317428.281620@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Thanks for your help!
--Heather
georion23.com
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Abstracts for the 2005 Lunar and Planetary Science Conference are up. |
20 Feb 2005 03:45:10 PM |
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My advisors and I did high-pressure experiments with a piston-cylinder
using the composition of the very primitive Martian meteorite Yamato
980459 to try to recreate the environment of the mantle when the
meteorite formed. Also we wanted to prove that the meteorite was a
result of a primary melt, not just a cumulate. My abstract is here if
you'd like to take a look:
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/2142.pdf
--Heather
georion23.com
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| User: "Bruce Scott TOK" |
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| Title: Re: Abstracts for the 2005 Lunar and Planetary Science Conference are up. |
21 Feb 2005 11:25:43 AM |
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Heather wrote:
|> My advisors and I did high-pressure experiments with a piston-cylinder
|> using the composition of the very primitive Martian meteorite Yamato
|> 980459 to try to recreate the environment of the mantle when the
|> meteorite formed. Also we wanted to prove that the meteorite was a
|> result of a primary melt, not just a cumulate. My abstract is here if
|> you'd like to take a look:
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|> http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/2142.pdf
Is 1380 to 1625 C realistic for the Martian mantle? I guess 4 to 16
Kbars corresponds to a depth of about 12 to 50 km, right?
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cu,
Bruce
drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Abstracts for the 2005 Lunar and Planetary Science Conference are up. |
23 Feb 2005 11:58:14 PM |
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12 kbars is about 99 km depth on Mars. I think the temperatures we got
are reasonable considering the highly magnesian composition of our
starting material. Monders, et al. did similar experiments using the
compostion found at Gusev Crater (see abstract here:
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/2069.pdf ) and found
multiple saturation at a pressure of 11 kbars, which is almost
identical to ours. Their temperatures were a little lower, but they
also had a different composition.
--Heather
georion23.com
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| User: "Bruce Scott TOK" |
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| Title: Re: Abstracts for the 2005 Lunar and Planetary Science Conference are up. |
27 Feb 2005 10:11:58 AM |
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Heather wrote:
|> 12 kbars is about 99 km depth on Mars. I think the temperatures we got
|> are reasonable considering the highly magnesian composition of our
|> starting material. [...]
[ca 1600K]
Reasonable for the experiment (heating via dynamical compression), or
reasonable for the radial T(r) profile of Mars?
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cu,
Bruce
drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
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| User: "Robert Clark" |
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| Title: Adsorbed water on Mars could act like liquid water. |
14 Feb 2005 12:59:40 PM |
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Robert Clark wrote:
PROGRAM
36th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference
March 14-18, 2005
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/program.pdf (PDF
file)
Bob Clark
M=F6hlmann D. T. F.
The Importance of Adsorption Water in the Upper Martian Surface [#1120]
"There is adsorption water in and above the upper martian surface at
mid- and low latitudes. This "unfrozen" adsorption water behaves
liquid-like. Related physical, chemical and possible biological
consequences are discussed."
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/1120.pdf
Bob Clark
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| User: "" |
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| Title: A current frozen sea near Mars equator? |
15 Feb 2005 07:41:32 AM |
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Robert Clark wrote:
PROGRAM
36th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference
March 14-18, 2005
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/program.pdf (PDF
file)
Bob Clark
Murray J. B. * Muller J.-P. Neukum G. Werner S. C. Hauber E. Markiewicz
W=2E J. Head J. W. III Foing B. H. Page D. Mitchell K. L. Portyankina G.
HRSC Investigator Team.
Evidence from HRSC Mars Express for a Frozen Sea Close to Mars'
Equator [#1741].
"We present evidence for a presently-existing frozen sea, with surface
pack-ice, at 5=B0N, 150=B0E, age ca. 5 million years. It measures ca. 800
=D7 900 km and averages ca. 45 m deep. It has probably been protected
from complete sublimation by ash and a sublimation lag of exposed
sediment."
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/sess97.pdf
Bob Clark
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