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Science > Physics |
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"Ole D. Rughede" |
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20 Sep 2005 07:08:26 PM |
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Aethertheory and GUT |
I wonder who has deleted my postings "Aetherphysics, Quantumgravity"
less than 5 days and nights after my sending of two messages on the
15th. September this year?
Are we back in the Middle Ages where books, pamphlets, essays, and
written messages of scientific contents were burned or destroyed
publicly when not in agreement with the commnonly held opinions of
religious believers. Now facing a clandestine anonymous opposer, who
secretly, without any note of reason or logical arguments, destroys what
he may fear could disturb the orthodox believers' souls and their
salvation on the Day of Judgment?
I appeal to the moderator of these newsgroups to investigate this matter
and come forward with a proper explanation about who has deleted my
postings, and when and why it possibly happened.
I intend to give rigorous proof to these newsgroups and to whom it may
interest of the unification of the strong nuclear force, the
electrostatic Coulomb force, and the Newtonian force of gravity, based
on the Aether Theory I described in the deleted postings. And since the
weak nuclear force has alredy been described by Abdus Salam, we hence
may look forward to GUT, the Grand
Unified Theory about the four fundamental forces in nature, thanks to a
simple and undeniable theory of the aether from which was predicted the
correct temperature of the aether T(Aether), equal to the best
observations in the COBE measurements of T(CMBR) even before the results
of the COBE measurings were published.
It will therefore be necessary to re-transmit the original postings with
the complete theoretical apparatus needed for the proof of unification
of the fundamental forces, and indispensable for the future development
of GUT.
I consider the deletions and the thereof following delays in
communication a severe crime against the international freedom of
science and as a disdainful action, comparable to mean terror, to which
scientists and learned scolars should be superior, whether they agree to
and understand the theory of the aether or not.
Ole D. Rughede
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| User: "kenseto" |
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| Title: Re: Aethertheory and GUT |
21 Sep 2005 03:34:01 AM |
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Do a Google search. Your thread is still there. But you will not like it
because all you got was abuse.:-(
Ken Seto
"Ole D. Rughede" <ole.rughede@privat.dk> wrote in message
news:4330a263$0$75922$edfadb0f@dread16.news.tele.dk...
I wonder who has deleted my postings "Aetherphysics, Quantumgravity"
less than 5 days and nights after my sending of two messages on the
15th. September this year?
Are we back in the Middle Ages where books, pamphlets, essays, and
written messages of scientific contents were burned or destroyed
publicly when not in agreement with the commnonly held opinions of
religious believers. Now facing a clandestine anonymous opposer, who
secretly, without any note of reason or logical arguments, destroys what
he may fear could disturb the orthodox believers' souls and their
salvation on the Day of Judgment?
I appeal to the moderator of these newsgroups to investigate this matter
and come forward with a proper explanation about who has deleted my
postings, and when and why it possibly happened.
I intend to give rigorous proof to these newsgroups and to whom it may
interest of the unification of the strong nuclear force, the
electrostatic Coulomb force, and the Newtonian force of gravity, based
on the Aether Theory I described in the deleted postings. And since the
weak nuclear force has alredy been described by Abdus Salam, we hence
may look forward to GUT, the Grand
Unified Theory about the four fundamental forces in nature, thanks to a
simple and undeniable theory of the aether from which was predicted the
correct temperature of the aether T(Aether), equal to the best
observations in the COBE measurements of T(CMBR) even before the results
of the COBE measurings were published.
It will therefore be necessary to re-transmit the original postings with
the complete theoretical apparatus needed for the proof of unification
of the fundamental forces, and indispensable for the future development
of GUT.
I consider the deletions and the thereof following delays in
communication a severe crime against the international freedom of
science and as a disdainful action, comparable to mean terror, to which
scientists and learned scolars should be superior, whether they agree to
and understand the theory of the aether or not.
Ole D. Rughede
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| User: "Ole D. Rughede" |
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| Title: Re: Aethertheory and GUT |
21 Sep 2005 07:33:43 AM |
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"kenseto" <kenseto@erinet.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:ZV8Ye.49689$vJ4.37144@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
Do a Google search. Your thread is still there. But you will not like
it
because all you got was abuse.:-(
Ken Seto
Thank you, Ken
No, I got no one single valid argument rejecting the substance of my
postings, or demonstrating any error in the described relations. It also
would be very unlikely, since no one hitherto has been able to find any
error or deny my arguments, including the best brains of these ngs
responding to previous communications on the subject.
All I got was a few stupid denials of the aether with reference to
Einstein's one hundred years old str from people who have no idea of the
significance of Einstein's lambda term in gtr. That should be no reason
for the removal of my introductory notes now aiming at a continued
argumentation to demonstrate the unification of the four fundamental
forces of nature.
So what is this about. Logic and scientific arguments or ignorant
stupidity?
Ole D. Rughede
"Ole D. Rughede" <ole.rughede@privat.dk> wrote in message
news:4330a263$0$75922$edfadb0f@dread16.news.tele.dk...
I wonder who has deleted my postings "Aetherphysics, Quantumgravity"
less than 5 days and nights after my sending of two messages on the
15th. September this year?
Are we back in the Middle Ages where books, pamphlets, essays, and
written messages of scientific contents were burned or destroyed
publicly when not in agreement with the commnonly held opinions of
religious believers. Now facing a clandestine anonymous opposer, who
secretly, without any note of reason or logical arguments, destroys
what
he may fear could disturb the orthodox believers' souls and their
salvation on the Day of Judgment?
I appeal to the moderator of these newsgroups to investigate this
matter
and come forward with a proper explanation about who has deleted my
postings, and when and why it possibly happened.
I intend to give rigorous proof to these newsgroups and to whom it
may
interest of the unification of the strong nuclear force, the
electrostatic Coulomb force, and the Newtonian force of gravity,
based
on the Aether Theory I described in the deleted postings. And since
the
weak nuclear force has alredy been described by Abdus Salam, we
hence
may look forward to GUT, the Grand
Unified Theory about the four fundamental forces in nature, thanks
to a
simple and undeniable theory of the aether from which was predicted
the
correct temperature of the aether T(Aether), equal to the best
observations in the COBE measurements of T(CMBR) even before the
results
of the COBE measurings were published.
It will therefore be necessary to re-transmit the original postings
with
the complete theoretical apparatus needed for the proof of
unification
of the fundamental forces, and indispensable for the future
development
of GUT.
I consider the deletions and the thereof following delays in
communication a severe crime against the international freedom of
science and as a disdainful action, comparable to mean terror, to
which
scientists and learned scolars should be superior, whether they
agree to
and understand the theory of the aether or not.
Ole D. Rughede
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| User: "Tom Roberts" |
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| Title: Re: Aethertheory and GUT |
21 Sep 2005 09:33:28 AM |
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Ole D. Rughede wrote:
I wonder who has deleted my postings "Aetherphysics, Quantumgravity"
Apparently you do not understand how USENET newsgroups like
sci.physics.relativity work. There is no moderator, and nobody can
"delete" messages. The original poseter can attempt to cancel an
article, but my experience is that that rarely is very successful
(because messages get fanned out to literally thousands of servers quite
rapidly).
Most likely what happened is either your newsreader client has marked it
"read" and is not displaying it to you, or your NNTP server has already
expired it. Some servers have long expiration times (e.g. mine keep
articles fo 30 days), some have short times, with 1 week being about the
average AFAIK. 5 days is not unreasonably short.
(I am amused to observe how often people who are incompetent in physics
so often display incompetence in other, completely unrelated areas.)
Tom Roberts tjroberts@lucent.com
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| User: "Ole D. Rughede" |
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| Title: Re: Aethertheory and GUT |
21 Sep 2005 07:36:42 PM |
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"Tom Roberts" <> skrev i en meddelelse
news:dgrqvp$po3@netnews.net.lucent.com...
Ole D. Rughede wrote:
I wonder who has deleted my postings "Aetherphysics, Quantumgravity"
Apparently you do not understand how USENET newsgroups like
sci.physics.relativity work. There is no moderator, and nobody can
"delete" messages. The original poseter can attempt to cancel an
article, but my experience is that that rarely is very successful
(because messages get fanned out to literally thousands of servers
quite
rapidly).
Most likely what happened is either your newsreader client has marked
it
"read" and is not displaying it to you, or your NNTP server has
already
expired it. Some servers have long expiration times (e.g. mine keep
articles fo 30 days), some have short times, with 1 week being about
the
average AFAIK. 5 days is not unreasonably short.
(I am amused to observe how often people who are incompetent in
physics
so often display incompetence in other, completely unrelated areas.)
Tom Roberts
You were absolutely right. Thank you..
I found the error in my Outlook Espress setup.
Seems I've had a real bad day. Sorry!
Ole D. Rughede
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| User: "Ole D. Rughede" |
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| Title: Re: Aethertheory and GUT |
21 Sep 2005 11:14:42 AM |
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"Tom Roberts" <> skrev i en meddelelse
news:dgrqvp$po3@netnews.net.lucent.com...
Ole D. Rughede wrote:
I wonder who has deleted my postings "Aetherphysics, Quantumgravity"
Apparently you do not understand how USENET newsgroups like
sci.physics.relativity work. There is no moderator, and nobody can
"delete" messages. The original poseter can attempt to cancel an
article, but my experience is that that rarely is very successful
(because messages get fanned out to literally thousands of servers
quite
rapidly).
Most likely what happened is either your newsreader client has marked
it
"read" and is not displaying it to you, or your NNTP server has
already
expired it. Some servers have long expiration times (e.g. mine keep
articles fo 30 days), some have short times, with 1 week being about
the
average AFAIK. 5 days is not unreasonably short.
Thank you. My server also keeps track of articles for 30 days.
So I will have to find out what happened.
(I am amused to observe how often people who are incompetent in
physics
so often display incompetence in other, completely unrelated areas.)
Me too, though some sort of false logic, isn't it?
Perhaps we should stick to theories and observations in physics.
Tom Roberts
BTW, any ideas about aether and GUT that apparently caught your
attention?
Ole D. Rughede
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: Aethertheory and GUT |
20 Sep 2005 10:13:32 PM |
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Ole D. Rughede wrote:
I wonder who has deleted my postings "Aetherphysics, Quantumgravity"
less than 5 days and nights after my sending of two messages on the
15th. September this year?
Are we back in the Middle Ages where books, pamphlets, essays, and
written messages of scientific contents were burned or destroyed
publicly when not in agreement with the commnonly held opinions of
religious believers. Now facing a clandestine anonymous opposer, who
secretly, without any note of reason or logical arguments, destroys what
he may fear could disturb the orthodox believers' souls and their
salvation on the Day of Judgment?
I appeal to the moderator of these newsgroups to investigate this matter
and come forward with a proper explanation about who has deleted my
postings, and when and why it possibly happened.
I intend to give rigorous proof to these newsgroups and to whom it may
interest of the unification of the strong nuclear force, the
electrostatic Coulomb force, and the Newtonian force of gravity, based
on the Aether Theory I described in the deleted postings. And since the
weak nuclear force has alredy been described by Abdus Salam, we hence
may look forward to GUT, the Grand
Unified Theory about the four fundamental forces in nature, thanks to a
simple and undeniable theory of the aether from which was predicted the
correct temperature of the aether T(Aether), equal to the best
observations in the COBE measurements of T(CMBR) even before the results
of the COBE measurings were published.
It will therefore be necessary to re-transmit the original postings with
the complete theoretical apparatus needed for the proof of unification
of the fundamental forces, and indispensable for the future development
of GUT.
Please don't bother.
I consider the deletions and the thereof following delays in
communication a severe crime against the international freedom of
science and as a disdainful action, comparable to mean terror, to which
scientists and learned scolars should be superior, whether they agree to
and understand the theory of the aether or not.
Ole D. Rughede
Some Scientifically Inaccurate Claims Concerning Cosmology and Relativity
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/wrong.html#aether
Albert Einstein, in his essay On the Aether (1924), made some
injudicious comments to the effect that relativity theory could be said
to ascribe physical properties to spacetime itself, and in that sense,
to involve a kind of "aether". He clearly did not mean the kind of
"aether" which had been envisioned by Maxwell and others in the
nineteenth century, but his remarks have been seized upon ever since,
by various cranks and other ill-informed persons, as evidence that
"gtr is an aether theory".
Luminiferous Ether
http://www.google.com/search?q=aether+site%3Awww.aip.org+update
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Ether.html
Physics Today 57(7) 40 (2004)
http://physicstoday.org/vol-57/iss-7/p40.shtml
No aether
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| User: "Ole D. Rughede" |
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| Title: Re: Aethertheory and GUT |
21 Sep 2005 07:52:20 AM |
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"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:wd4Ye.355887$_o.184434@attbi_s71...
Ole D. Rughede wrote:
I wonder who has deleted my postings "Aetherphysics, Quantumgravity"
less than 5 days and nights after my sending of two messages on the
15th. September this year?
Are we back in the Middle Ages where books, pamphlets, essays, and
written messages of scientific contents were burned or destroyed
publicly when not in agreement with the commnonly held opinions of
religious believers. Now facing a clandestine anonymous opposer, who
secretly, without any note of reason or logical arguments, destroys
what
he may fear could disturb the orthodox believers' souls and their
salvation on the Day of Judgment?
I appeal to the moderator of these newsgroups to investigate this
matter
and come forward with a proper explanation about who has deleted my
postings, and when and why it possibly happened.
I intend to give rigorous proof to these newsgroups and to whom it
may
interest of the unification of the strong nuclear force, the
electrostatic Coulomb force, and the Newtonian force of gravity,
based
on the Aether Theory I described in the deleted postings. And since
the
weak nuclear force has alredy been described by Abdus Salam, we
hence
may look forward to GUT, the Grand
Unified Theory about the four fundamental forces in nature, thanks
to a
simple and undeniable theory of the aether from which was predicted
the
correct temperature of the aether T(Aether), equal to the best
observations in the COBE measurements of T(CMBR) even before the
results
of the COBE measurings were published.
It will therefore be necessary to re-transmit the original postings
with
the complete theoretical apparatus needed for the proof of
unification
of the fundamental forces, and indispensable for the future
development
of GUT.
Please don't bother.
Dear Sam Wormly, please don't bother yourself about this subject if you
can't bear with it. Forgive me, but I don't think you are the right one
to decide what is science or not. Your following references are
completely irrelevant. You THINK wormly? That's OK!
I consider the deletions and the thereof following delays in
communication a severe crime against the international freedom of
science and as a disdainful action, comparable to mean terror, to
which
scientists and learned scolars should be superior, whether they
agree to
and understand the theory of the aether or not.
Ole D. Rughede
Some Scientifically Inaccurate Claims Concerning Cosmology and
Relativity
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/wrong.html#aether
Albert Einstein, in his essay On the Aether (1924), made some
injudicious comments to the effect that relativity theory could
be said
to ascribe physical properties to spacetime itself, and in that
sense,
to involve a kind of "aether". He clearly did not mean the kind
of
"aether" which had been envisioned by Maxwell and others in the
nineteenth century, but his remarks have been seized upon ever
since,
by various cranks and other ill-informed persons, as evidence
that
"gtr is an aether theory".
Luminiferous Ether
http://www.google.com/search?q=aether+site%3Awww.aip.org+update
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Ether.html
Physics Today 57(7) 40 (2004)
http://physicstoday.org/vol-57/iss-7/p40.shtml
No aether
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| User: "Bill Hobba" |
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| Title: Re: Aethertheory and GUT |
23 Sep 2005 02:22:31 AM |
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"Ole D. Rughede" <ole.rughede@privat.dk> wrote in message
news:4331556e$0$76023$edfadb0f@dread16.news.tele.dk...
"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:wd4Ye.355887$_o.184434@attbi_s71...
Ole D. Rughede wrote:
I wonder who has deleted my postings "Aetherphysics, Quantumgravity"
less than 5 days and nights after my sending of two messages on the
15th. September this year?
Are we back in the Middle Ages where books, pamphlets, essays, and
written messages of scientific contents were burned or destroyed
publicly when not in agreement with the commnonly held opinions of
religious believers. Now facing a clandestine anonymous opposer, who
secretly, without any note of reason or logical arguments, destroys
what
he may fear could disturb the orthodox believers' souls and their
salvation on the Day of Judgment?
I appeal to the moderator of these newsgroups to investigate this
matter
and come forward with a proper explanation about who has deleted my
postings, and when and why it possibly happened.
I intend to give rigorous proof to these newsgroups and to whom it
may
interest of the unification of the strong nuclear force, the
electrostatic Coulomb force, and the Newtonian force of gravity,
based
on the Aether Theory I described in the deleted postings. And since
the
weak nuclear force has alredy been described by Abdus Salam, we
hence
may look forward to GUT, the Grand
Unified Theory about the four fundamental forces in nature, thanks
to a
simple and undeniable theory of the aether from which was predicted
the
correct temperature of the aether T(Aether), equal to the best
observations in the COBE measurements of T(CMBR) even before the
results
of the COBE measurings were published.
It will therefore be necessary to re-transmit the original postings
with
the complete theoretical apparatus needed for the proof of
unification
of the fundamental forces, and indispensable for the future
development
of GUT.
Please don't bother.
Dear Sam Wormly, please don't bother yourself about this subject if you
can't bear with it.
The point is Sam has investigated the concept of the aether - and what you
prattle on about is not it.
Forgive me, but I don't think you are the right one
to decide what is science or not.
Neither are you. In the final analysis each person reading this will form
their own opinion based on what is written.
Bill
Your following references are
completely irrelevant. You THINK wormly? That's OK!
I consider the deletions and the thereof following delays in
communication a severe crime against the international freedom of
science and as a disdainful action, comparable to mean terror, to
which
scientists and learned scolars should be superior, whether they
agree to
and understand the theory of the aether or not.
Ole D. Rughede
Some Scientifically Inaccurate Claims Concerning Cosmology and
Relativity
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/wrong.html#aether
Albert Einstein, in his essay On the Aether (1924), made some
injudicious comments to the effect that relativity theory could
be said
to ascribe physical properties to spacetime itself, and in that
sense,
to involve a kind of "aether". He clearly did not mean the kind
of
"aether" which had been envisioned by Maxwell and others in the
nineteenth century, but his remarks have been seized upon ever
since,
by various cranks and other ill-informed persons, as evidence
that
"gtr is an aether theory".
Luminiferous Ether
http://www.google.com/search?q=aether+site%3Awww.aip.org+update
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Ether.html
Physics Today 57(7) 40 (2004)
http://physicstoday.org/vol-57/iss-7/p40.shtml
No aether
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| User: "Ole D. Rughede" |
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| Title: Re: Aethertheory and GUT |
22 Sep 2005 06:55:20 AM |
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Dear Sam Wormley,
Please forgive my unforgiveable misspellings, indicating that you think
wormly like some inferior creeping worm.
Of course I meant to say that you Think, Wormley, showing according to
Descartes that you are, and are a human creature - as I guess from your
first name - (though one cannot be sure now a days) you probably are a
man of thoughts with many helpful references to the latest news in the
sciences, and a solid knowledge of scientific history and all its now
out-fashioned theories.
So, any way: Thank you so very much for your kind WORMLEY thoughts and
ideas.
Ole D. Rughede
"Ole D. Rughede" <ole.rughede@privat.dk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:4331556e$0$76023$edfadb0f@dread16.news.tele.dk...
"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:wd4Ye.355887$_o.184434@attbi_s71...
Ole D. Rughede wrote:
[snipped]
Please don't bother.
Dear Sam Wormly, please don't bother yourself about this subject if
you
can't bear with it. Forgive me, but I don't think you are the right
one
to decide what is science or not. Your following references are
completely irrelevant. You THINK wormly? That's OK!
I consider the deletions and the thereof following delays in
communication a severe crime against the international freedom of
science and as a disdainful action, comparable to mean terror, to
which
scientists and learned scolars should be superior, whether they
agree to
and understand the theory of the aether or not.
Ole D. Rughede
Some Scientifically Inaccurate Claims Concerning Cosmology and
Relativity
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/wrong.html#aether
Albert Einstein, in his essay On the Aether (1924), made some
injudicious comments to the effect that relativity theory could
be said
to ascribe physical properties to spacetime itself, and in that
sense,
to involve a kind of "aether". He clearly did not mean the kind
of
"aether" which had been envisioned by Maxwell and others in the
nineteenth century, but his remarks have been seized upon ever
since,
by various cranks and other ill-informed persons, as evidence
that
"gtr is an aether theory".
Luminiferous Ether
http://www.google.com/search?q=aether+site%3Awww.aip.org+update
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Ether.html
Physics Today 57(7) 40 (2004)
http://physicstoday.org/vol-57/iss-7/p40.shtml
No aether
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