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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "Donald G. Shead"
Date: 29 Jul 2004 05:31:42 PM
Object: All changes in velocity are either acceleration of the observers and/or acceleration of that which they observe
Accelerated free falling observers will see the ground accelerating
upward toward them; while observers on the ground will see the free
fall as increases in the velocity of what they observe free falling
toward them.
That's what relativity's all about.
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User: "tuna"

Title: Re: All changes in velocity are either acceleration of the observers and/or acceleration of that which they observe 29 Jul 2004 11:46:59 PM
"Donald G. Shead" <dcshead@charter.net> wrote in message
news:48402bae.0407291431.7773608c@posting.google.com...

Accelerated free falling observers will see the ground accelerating
upward toward them; while observers on the ground will see the free
fall as increases in the velocity of what they observe free falling
toward them.

That's what relativity's all about.

But what if there are NO observers? What happens then?
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User: "Herman Family"

Title: Re: All changes in velocity are either acceleration of the observers and/or acceleration of that which they observe 30 Jul 2004 10:37:11 AM
"tuna" <tuna@tunatuna.com> wrote in message
news:2mu24aFr37m5U1@uni-berlin.de...


"Donald G. Shead" <dcshead@charter.net> wrote in message
news:48402bae.0407291431.7773608c@posting.google.com...

Accelerated free falling observers will see the ground accelerating
upward toward them; while observers on the ground will see the free
fall as increases in the velocity of what they observe free falling
toward them.

That's what relativity's all about.


But what if there are NO observers? What happens then?


Then it becomes a philosophical question. The physics, however, stay the
same. Now the other deal is what happens if there are two observers in
different locations. One could handwave a few paradoxes over which way who
is falling.
Michael
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User: "Donald G. Shead"

Title: Re: All changes in velocity are either acceleration of the observers and/or acceleration of that which they observe 30 Jul 2004 01:35:34 PM
"tuna" <tuna@tunatuna.com> wrote in message news:<2mu24aFr37m5U1@uni-berlin.de>...

"Donald G. Shead" <dcshead@charter.net> wrote in message
news:48402bae.0407291431.7773608c@posting.google.com...

Accelerated free falling observers will see the ground accelerating
upward toward them; while observers on the ground will see the free
fall as increases in the velocity of what they observe free falling
toward them.

That's what relativity's all about.


But what if there are NO observers? What happens then?

Simple; we just wait a few million years until some observers evolve.
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User: "Jim"

Title: Re: All changes in velocity are either acceleration of the observers and/or acceleration of that which they observe 30 Jul 2004 01:19:30 AM
"tuna" <tuna@tunatuna.com> wrote:


"Donald G. Shead" <dcshead@charter.net> wrote in message
news:48402bae.0407291431.7773608c@posting.google.com...

Accelerated free falling observers will see the ground accelerating
upward toward them; while observers on the ground will see the free
fall as increases in the velocity of what they observe free falling
toward them.

That's what relativity's all about.


But what if there are NO observers? What happens then?

That's what Donald's relatives want to know.
Jim
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User: "Poker Joker"

Title: Re: All changes in velocity are either acceleration of the observers and/or acceleration of that which they observe 29 Jul 2004 07:04:39 PM
"Donald G. Shead" <dcshead@charter.net> wrote in message
news:48402bae.0407291431.7773608c@posting.google.com...

Accelerated free falling observers will see the ground accelerating
upward toward them; while observers on the ground will see the free
fall as increases in the velocity of what they observe free falling
toward them.

That's what relativity's all about.

What about accelerated free falling observers on the ground?
Or accelerated free rising observers?
Or accelerated free falling poeple who aren't looking at the ground?
Or free falling ground that is accelerating at an observer?
Or the void between your ears?
Surely (and I'll call you Shirley whenever I want.) relativity
is about those things too?
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User: "Uncle Al"

Title: Re: All changes in velocity are either acceleration of the observersand/or acceleration of that which they observe 29 Jul 2004 06:37:09 PM
"Donald G. Shead" wrote:


Accelerated free falling observers will see the ground accelerating
upward toward them; while observers on the ground will see the free
fall as increases in the velocity of what they observe free falling
toward them.

That's what relativity's all about.

Idiot.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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User: "David Bandel"

Title: Re: All changes in velocity are either acceleration of the observers and/or acceleration of that which they observe 29 Jul 2004 11:32:58 PM
(Donald G. Shead) wrote in message news:<48402bae.0407291431.7773608c@posting.google.com>...

Accelerated free falling observers will see the ground accelerating
upward toward them; while observers on the ground will see the free
fall as increases in the velocity of what they observe free falling
toward them.

That's what relativity's all about.

you're a great man shead... you truly are the einstein of our day :)
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User: "Sam Wormley"

Title: Re: All changes in velocity are either acceleration of the observersand/or acceleration of that which they observe 29 Jul 2004 07:15:06 PM
Acceleration
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Acceleration.html
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User: "Maleki"

Title: Re: All changes in velocity are either acceleration of the observersand/or acceleration of that which they observe 29 Jul 2004 10:24:50 PM
Donald G. Shead wrote:

Accelerated free falling observers will see the ground accelerating
upward toward them; while observers on the ground will see the free
fall as increases in the velocity of what they observe free falling
toward them.

That's what relativity's all about.

Why don't you remove the alt.sci.physics from your target forums.
You're always carrying along huge threads that are dumped
into this newsgroup daily.
Is it so bad to just satisfy sci.physics Rambos' thirst?
---

Freemasons = Zionists V2.35
"lAmassab"

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User: "Eddie"

Title: Re: All changes in velocity are either acceleration of the observers and/or acceleration of that which they observe 29 Jul 2004 09:00:12 PM
Dumb ***** troll.
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User: "Eric Gisse"

Title: Re: All changes in velocity are either acceleration of the observers and/or acceleration of that which they observe 29 Jul 2004 06:26:55 PM
On 29 Jul 2004 15:31:42 -0700,
(Donald G. Shead)
wrote:
No *****.
Learn calculus.
dv/dt is so ***** simple.
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User: "John Morriss"

Title: Re: All changes in velocity are either acceleration of the observers and/or acceleration of that which they observe 30 Jul 2004 08:53:55 AM
Eric Gisse <fseggNOSPAM@uaf.edu> wrote in message news:<ms1jg0h25ntp080b1omlnvnfoschk4hf1p@4ax.com>...

On 29 Jul 2004 15:31:42 -0700,

(Donald G. Shead)
wrote:

No *****.

Learn calculus.

dv/dt is so ***** simple.

It's even simpler when you do what Shead does, and cancel the d's :)
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User: "half_pint"

Title: Re: All changes in velocity are either acceleration of the observers and/or acceleration of that which they observe 29 Jul 2004 08:51:03 PM
Twat.
:OP
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User: "News Captian"

Title: Re: All changes in velocity are either acceleration of the observers and/or acceleration of that which they observe 29 Jul 2004 06:19:05 PM
Wow.
You powerful stupid, and double-plus rude to boot, and mentally sick as
well.
"Donald G. Shead" <dcshead@charter.net> wrote in message
news:48402bae.0407291431.7773608c@posting.google.com...

Accelerated free falling observers will see the ground accelerating
upward toward them; while observers on the ground will see the free
fall as increases in the velocity of what they observe free falling
toward them.

That's what relativity's all about.

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