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01 Jun 2007 06:18:40 PM |
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Amplitude of "Wave-Photons"? |
On Jun 1, 1:15 pm, wrote in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.energy/msg/3cd286c68e6df76f?hl=en&
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A photon doesn't have an "amplitude".
A photon has energy and you've been told several times in the past
what it is.
A collection of photons has an "amplitude".
Does this also apply to the lower frequencies where the photon is
considered a wave rather than a particle [e.g. radio-frequencies and
lower]? If so, does this mean the amplitude of a radio signal is
determined by the number of photons it contains?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Amplitude of "Wave-Photons"? |
01 Jun 2007 06:35:13 PM |
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In sci.physics.electromag Radium <glucegen1@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 1, 1:15 pm, wrote in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.energy/msg/3cd286c68e6df76f?hl=en&
:
A photon doesn't have an "amplitude".
A photon has energy and you've been told several times in the past
what it is.
A collection of photons has an "amplitude".
Does this also apply to the lower frequencies where the photon is
considered a wave rather than a particle [e.g. radio-frequencies and
lower]? If so, does this mean the amplitude of a radio signal is
determined by the number of photons it contains?
Just how big a moron are you that you can't remember the question
was answered months ago much less remember you just posted the
same question in a different thread?
--
Jim Pennino
Remove .spam.sux to reply.
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| User: "malibu" |
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| Title: Re: Amplitude of "Wave-Photons"? |
01 Jun 2007 11:56:50 PM |
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On Jun 1, 5:35 pm, wrote:
In sci.physics.electromag Radium <gluceg...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 1, 1:15 pm, wrote in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.energy/msg/3cd286c68e6df76f?hl=en&
:
A photon doesn't have an "amplitude".
A photon has energy and you've been told several times in the past
what it is.
A collection of photons has an "amplitude".
Does this also apply to the lower frequencies where the photon is
considered a wave rather than a particle [e.g. radio-frequencies and
lower]? If so, does this mean the amplitude of a radio signal is
determined by the number of photons it contains?
Just how big a moron are you that you can't remember the question
was answered months ago much less remember you just posted the
same question in a different thread?
What he's saying is if a single photon
can have a frequency, what is its
actual size.
Unfortunately, when your model
is a point particle, you haven't really
got a shape for it, have you, so the answer is,
it's amplitude is the width of a point.
John
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| User: "Androcles" |
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| Title: Re: Amplitude of "Wave-Photons"? |
02 Jun 2007 01:39:42 AM |
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"malibu" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:1180760210.059826.79520@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
: On Jun 1, 5:35 pm, wrote:
: > In sci.physics.electromag Radium <gluceg...@gmail.com> wrote:
: >
: > > On Jun 1, 1:15 pm, wrote in
: > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.energy/msg/3cd286c68e6df76f?hl=en&
: > > :
: > > > A photon doesn't have an "amplitude".
: >
: > > > A photon has energy and you've been told several times in the past
: > > > what it is.
: >
: > > > A collection of photons has an "amplitude".
: > > Does this also apply to the lower frequencies where the photon is
: > > considered a wave rather than a particle [e.g. radio-frequencies and
: > > lower]? If so, does this mean the amplitude of a radio signal is
: > > determined by the number of photons it contains?
: >
: > Just how big a moron are you that you can't remember the question
: > was answered months ago much less remember you just posted the
: > same question in a different thread?
: >
: What he's saying is if a single photon
: can have a frequency, what is its
: actual size.
How many days are there in a mile?
How many miles are there in a ton?
How many tons are there in a year?
"What he's saying" makes no sense whatsoever.
Photons have amplitude and frequency. They do not have spatial dimensions.
: Unfortunately, when your model
: is a point particle, you haven't really
: got a shape for it, have you, so the answer is,
: it's amplitude is the width of a point.
:
: John
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| User: "malibu" |
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| Title: Re: Amplitude of "Wave-Photons"? |
03 Jun 2007 08:36:02 AM |
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On Jun 2, 12:39 am, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics> wrote:
"malibu" <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:1180760210.059826.79520@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
: On Jun 1, 5:35 pm, wrote:
: > In sci.physics.electromag Radium <gluceg...@gmail.com> wrote:
: >
: > > On Jun 1, 1:15 pm, wrote in
: > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.energy/msg/3cd286c68e6df76f?hl=en&
: > > :
: > > > A photon doesn't have an "amplitude".
: >
: > > > A photon has energy and you've been told several times in the past
: > > > what it is.
: >
: > > > A collection of photons has an "amplitude".
: > > Does this also apply to the lower frequencies where the photon is
: > > considered a wave rather than a particle [e.g. radio-frequencies and
: > > lower]? If so, does this mean the amplitude of a radio signal is
: > > determined by the number of photons it contains?
: >
: > Just how big a moron are you that you can't remember the question
: > was answered months ago much less remember you just posted the
: > same question in a different thread?
: >
: What he's saying is if a single photon
: can have a frequency, what is its
: actual size.
How many days are there in a mile?
How many miles are there in a ton?
How many tons are there in a year?
"What he's saying" makes no sense whatsoever.
Photons have amplitude and frequency. They do not have spatial dimensions.
A frequency implies a beat; a rhythmical change.
What, then, is changing?
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| User: "Androcles" |
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| Title: Re: Amplitude of "Wave-Photons"? |
03 Jun 2007 01:32:11 PM |
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"malibu" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:1180877762.960071.81660@n15g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
: On Jun 2, 12:39 am, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics> wrote:
: > "malibu" <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
: >
: > news:1180760210.059826.79520@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
: > : On Jun 1, 5:35 pm, wrote:
: > : > In sci.physics.electromag Radium <gluceg...@gmail.com> wrote:
: > : >
: > : > > On Jun 1, 1:15 pm, wrote in
: > : >
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.energy/msg/3cd286c68e6df76f?hl=en&
: > : > > :
: > : > > > A photon doesn't have an "amplitude".
: > : >
: > : > > > A photon has energy and you've been told several times in the
past
: > : > > > what it is.
: > : >
: > : > > > A collection of photons has an "amplitude".
: > : > > Does this also apply to the lower frequencies where the photon is
: > : > > considered a wave rather than a particle [e.g. radio-frequencies
and
: > : > > lower]? If so, does this mean the amplitude of a radio signal is
: > : > > determined by the number of photons it contains?
: > : >
: > : > Just how big a moron are you that you can't remember the question
: > : > was answered months ago much less remember you just posted the
: > : > same question in a different thread?
: > : >
: > : What he's saying is if a single photon
: > : can have a frequency, what is its
: > : actual size.
: >
: > How many days are there in a mile?
: > How many miles are there in a ton?
: > How many tons are there in a year?
: > "What he's saying" makes no sense whatsoever.
: > Photons have amplitude and frequency. They do not have spatial
dimensions.
:
:
: A frequency implies a beat; a rhythmical change.
: What, then, is changing?
Your terminology is incorrect. A beat is something you get when you combine
frequencies.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/sound/beat.html
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Sagnac/Sagnac2.JPG
A single photon changes (and exchanges) its electric and magnetic fields.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/AC/AC.htm
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| User: "malibu" |
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| Title: Re: Amplitude of "Wave-Photons"? |
03 Jun 2007 02:42:40 PM |
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On Jun 3, 12:32 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics> wrote:
"malibu" <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message> :
: A frequency implies a beat; a rhythmical change.
: What, then, is changing?
Your terminology is incorrect. A beat is something you get when you combine
frequencies.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/sound/beat.html
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Sagnac/Sagnac2.JPG
A single photon changes (and exchanges) its electric and magnetic fields.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/AC/AC.htm
exchanges wrt what physical locations (sic measurement i.e. amplitude,
length)
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| User: "Androcles" |
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| Title: Re: Amplitude of "Wave-Photons"? |
03 Jun 2007 03:57:30 PM |
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"malibu" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:1180899760.643812.32460@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
: On Jun 3, 12:32 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics> wrote:
: > "malibu" <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message> :
: > : A frequency implies a beat; a rhythmical change.
: > : What, then, is changing?
: >
: > Your terminology is incorrect. A beat is something you get when you
combine
: > frequencies.
: > http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/sound/beat.html
: > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Sagnac/Sagnac2.JPG
: >
: > A single photon changes (and exchanges) its electric and magnetic
fields.
: > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/AC/AC.htm
:
: exchanges wrt what physical locations (sic measurement i.e. amplitude,
: length)
REPEAT:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/AC/AC.htm
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Amplitude of "Wave-Photons"? |
01 Jun 2007 06:26:05 PM |
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On Jun 1, 7:18 pm, Radium <gluceg...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 1, 1:15 pm, wrote inhttp://groups.google.com/group/sci.energy/msg/3cd286c68e6df76f?hl=en&
:
A photon doesn't have an "amplitude".
A photon has energy and you've been told several times in the past
what it is.
A collection of photons has an "amplitude".
Does this also apply to the lower frequencies where the photon is
considered a wave rather than a particle [e.g. radio-frequencies and
lower]? If so, does this mean the amplitude of a radio signal is
determined by the number of photons it contains?
yes
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| User: "Radium" |
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| Title: Re: Amplitude of "Wave-Photons"? |
01 Jun 2007 06:34:27 PM |
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On Jun 1, 4:26 pm, wrote:
On Jun 1, 7:18 pm, Radium <gluceg...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 1, 1:15 pm, wrote inhttp://groups.google.com/group/sci.energy/msg/3cd286c68e6df76f?hl=en&
:
A photon doesn't have an "amplitude".
A photon has energy and you've been told several times in the past
what it is.
A collection of photons has an "amplitude".
Does this also apply to the lower frequencies where the photon is
considered a wave rather than a particle [e.g. radio-frequencies and
lower]? If so, does this mean the amplitude of a radio signal is
determined by the number of photons it contains?
yes
Does this mean that more photons-per-second equate to larger amplitude?
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: Amplitude of "Wave-Photons"? |
01 Jun 2007 06:28:16 PM |
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Radium wrote:
On Jun 1, 1:15 pm, wrote in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.energy/msg/3cd286c68e6df76f?hl=en&
:
A photon doesn't have an "amplitude".
A photon has energy and you've been told several times in the past
what it is.
A collection of photons has an "amplitude".
Does this also apply to the lower frequencies where the photon is
considered a wave rather than a particle [e.g. radio-frequencies and
lower]? If so, does this mean the amplitude of a radio signal is
determined by the number of photons it contains?
There is no boundary.
"In physics, wave-particle duality holds that light and matter can
exhibit properties of both waves and of particles. This concept is
a key part of quantum mechanics".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave-Particle_duality
This has been shown to hold true for any number of elementary
particles and large assemblages of atoms including buckyballs and
viruses.
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