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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "Brian McMullen"
Date: 12 Dec 2006 08:38:30 PM
Object: An Idea for Quantum Gravity (Criticisms Welcome)
This is something I've been thinking for a while now. It's probably a
dumb idea, but I'd rather get shot down here than have it turn out to be
something useful and see someone else get credit for it. :)
My idea is that rather than gravitons being the cause of gravity,
instead the presence of a quantity of mass/energy near any fundamental
particle skews the particle's waveform toward the mass. For some
reason, the location of any fundamental particle will have a higher
probability of being pinpointed nearer a quantity of mass/energy than
away from it. The larger the mass quantity and the nearer the
fundamental particle, the more pronounced the effect. So given two
largish clumps of matter near each other, the net effect of the skewed
waveforms of all particles making up the objects is an apparent
attraction of the two objects toward each other.
Taken further, we can imagine what we see when observing activities
happening on a very massive object from a less massive object. We judge
what is happening on the massive object by looking at the photons coming
from it. The waveforms of the photons are at first skewed toward the
massive object they are coming from, causing them to have a shorter
wavelength than they would normally. So as they escape the object,
their waveforms are red-shifted in our direction. As the wavelengths of
the photons are stretched out, so too are the amount of time between
events we observe from the massive object using these photons. So to
us, we see events on the massive object as proceeding slower than an
observer actually on the object. (Time dilation). When observing the
events on a less massive object than the one we situate we get the
opposite effect. The photons' wavelengths are blue-shifted toward us
and we see events from the less massive object as proceeding quicker
than someone on it. I believe this coincides with what is predicted by
General Relativity.
As you can probably see, what I'm trying to do is use my theory to
describe phenomena predicted by General Relativity in the language of
Quantum Mechanics. I'm not trying to disprove anything regarding
General Relativity, but instead come up with another perspective
describing what's happening behind the scenes in total agreement with
Einstein's predictions.
I know one major weakness is that I don't give any prediction as to
*what* could be causing the skew of waveforms toward mass. But putting
this aside for a minute (and hoping that someone might come up with
their own explanation for this possibility) could my theory conceivably
be useful in understanding gravitation? And, more importantly, can
anyone think of a way for my theory to be falsifiable (as all good
theories need to be)?
Thanks,
Brian M.
http://www.cs.rit.edu/~bmm3056
.

User: "Vert"

Title: Re: An Idea for Quantum Gravity (Criticisms Welcome) 17 Dec 2006 02:26:22 AM
Brian McMullen wrote:

This is something I've been thinking for a while now. It's probably a
dumb idea, but I'd rather get shot down here than have it turn out to be
something useful and see someone else get credit for it. :)

My idea is that rather than gravitons being the cause of gravity,
instead the presence of a quantity of mass/energy near any fundamental
particle skews the particle's waveform toward the mass. For some
reason, the location of any fundamental particle will have a higher
probability of being pinpointed nearer a quantity of mass/energy than
away from it. The larger the mass quantity and the nearer the
fundamental particle, the more pronounced the effect. So given two
largish clumps of matter near each other, the net effect of the skewed
waveforms of all particles making up the objects is an apparent
attraction of the two objects toward each other.

Taken further, we can imagine what we see when observing activities
happening on a very massive object from a less massive object. We judge
what is happening on the massive object by looking at the photons coming
from it. The waveforms of the photons are at first skewed toward the
massive object they are coming from, causing them to have a shorter
wavelength than they would normally. So as they escape the object,
their waveforms are red-shifted in our direction. As the wavelengths of
the photons are stretched out, so too are the amount of time between
events we observe from the massive object using these photons. So to
us, we see events on the massive object as proceeding slower than an
observer actually on the object. (Time dilation). When observing the
events on a less massive object than the one we situate we get the
opposite effect. The photons' wavelengths are blue-shifted toward us
and we see events from the less massive object as proceeding quicker
than someone on it. I believe this coincides with what is predicted by
General Relativity.

As you can probably see, what I'm trying to do is use my theory to
describe phenomena predicted by General Relativity in the language of
Quantum Mechanics. I'm not trying to disprove anything regarding
General Relativity, but instead come up with another perspective
describing what's happening behind the scenes in total agreement with
Einstein's predictions.

I know one major weakness is that I don't give any prediction as to
*what* could be causing the skew of waveforms toward mass. But putting
this aside for a minute (and hoping that someone might come up with
their own explanation for this possibility) could my theory conceivably
be useful in understanding gravitation? And, more importantly, can
anyone think of a way for my theory to be falsifiable (as all good
theories need to be)?

Thanks,
Brian M.

http://www.cs.rit.edu/~bmm3056

Vergon
I think you may find my quantum gravity theory useful to you. It
explains not only the mecanism of gravity but deals with it
quantitatively. It also clarifies the mystery of action at a distance
--- in other words it shows how the ILLUSION of action at a distance is
created.
If you wish to read it, go to http://www.wbabin.net (The General
Science Journal) go to
LIST OF AUTHORS and click on Vertner Vergon. The title of the paper is
On the Quantum as a Physical Entity.
.

User: "Eric Gisse"

Title: Re: An Idea for Quantum Gravity (Criticisms Welcome) 13 Dec 2006 12:49:08 PM
Brian McMullen wrote:
[...]

And, more importantly, can
anyone think of a way for my theory to be falsifiable (as all good
theories need to be)?

It needs to make a prediction, which your "theory" does not.


Thanks,
Brian M.

http://www.cs.rit.edu/~bmm3056

.

User: "Puppet_Sock"

Title: Re: An Idea for Quantum Gravity (Criticisms Welcome) 13 Dec 2006 12:40:41 PM
Brian McMullen wrote:
[word salad snipped]

I know one major weakness is that I don't give any prediction as to
*what* could be causing the skew of waveforms toward mass. But putting
this aside for a minute (and hoping that someone might come up with
their own explanation for this possibility) could my theory conceivably
be useful in understanding gravitation?

Nope. Not possible. You don't have a theory, you have word salad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory

And, more importantly, can
anyone think of a way for my theory to be falsifiable (as all good
theories need to be)?

Nope. Not possible. You don't have a theory.
Socks
.


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