Science > Physics > Anti-Matter/Photons as Blackholes, or 1e100 photons/atom
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"Brad Guth" |
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13 Jan 2005 02:22:14 PM |
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Anti-Matter/Photons as Blackholes, or 1e100 photons/atom |
If per given black hole there were to be such a core or nucleus of
anti-matter that's rather nicely surrounded by way of those trillions
upon trillions of photons per atom (perhaps 1e100 photons/atom), then it
stands to my subjective reasoning that a blackhole in of itself is not
necessarily the all-consuming density worth of normal matter, nor that
of any subsequent space time continuum sink-hole of mass that's been
continually touted.
In fact, if this notion of an anti-matter core is what it is, whereas we
should be able to safely utilize such as a viable point-source and/or
that of a super-nullification zone that could be offering us an extreme
performance gateway to wherever, or perhaps otherwise as for that of a
handy pitstop of snatching a little anti-matter as energy along the way.
I've had this topic badly ongoing within other forums, such as the BBC
space forum that sucks, and numerous other supposed all-knowing physics
forums that suck, whereas there has usually been more of their
sanctimonious style of mainstream NASA/Apollo butt sucking flak than
viable contributions upon this or any other topic of worth, though
generally I've identified upon many two-faced individuals contributing
quite nicely wherever there's absolutely no chance of involving
intellectual morals or remorse.
In spite of such flak, I have a few too many questions:
1) Wouldn't there honestly have to be a containment shell, sphere or
perhaps that of an atmosphere of something reacting as rather
anti-photonic (non-illuminating) surrounding anti-matter?
2) Would not the interaction between the slight energy and otherwise
extremely slight mass associated with the individual photon become
altered in some inverse way as to be safely coexisting around
anti-matter?
3) If a photon was no longer AM/FM modulated, thus nearly resting as
stripped of all associated energy and mass, wouldn't a sufficient
collective of such photons become dark-matter or perhaps dark-energy?
4) As perhaps far away from any blackhole, or at least outside the event
horizon, is there anything to the likes of Orme atoms, especially when
it's getting down to one such (absolute zero K) atom/m3?
5) Is there actually any relevant limitation as to the population of
such photons/m3?
Regards, Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/update-242.htm
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: Anti-Matter/Photons as Blackholes, or 1e100 photons/atom |
13 Jan 2005 02:37:38 PM |
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Brad Guth wrote:
If per given black hole there were to be such a core or nucleus of
anti-matter that's rather nicely surrounded by way of those trillions
upon trillions of photons per atom (perhaps 1e100 photons/atom), then it
stands to my subjective reasoning that a blackhole in of itself is not
necessarily the all-consuming density worth of normal matter, nor that
of any subsequent space time continuum sink-hole of mass that's been
continually touted.
Thanks for registering
http://www.google.com/search?q=guth+site%3Awww.crank.net
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| User: "Creighton Hogg" |
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| Title: Re: Anti-Matter/Photons as Blackholes, or 1e100 photons/atom |
13 Jan 2005 02:50:19 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Brad Guth wrote:
If per given black hole there were to be such a core or nucleus of
anti-matter that's rather nicely surrounded by way of those trillions
upon trillions of photons per atom (perhaps 1e100 photons/atom), then it
stands to my subjective reasoning that a blackhole in of itself is not
necessarily the all-consuming density worth of normal matter, nor that
of any subsequent space time continuum sink-hole of mass that's been
continually touted.
Where is this anti-matter coming from? What's the process that is
producing it? Also, how has it managed to stay there? We've seen
accretion disks going into black holes. If it was anti-matter in there,
it wouldn't be there for very long.
In fact, if this notion of an anti-matter core is what it is, whereas we
should be able to safely utilize such as a viable point-source and/or
that of a super-nullification zone that could be offering us an extreme
performance gateway to wherever, or perhaps otherwise as for that of a
handy pitstop of snatching a little anti-matter as energy along the way.
I've had this topic badly ongoing within other forums, such as the BBC
space forum that sucks, and numerous other supposed all-knowing physics
forums that suck, whereas there has usually been more of their
sanctimonious style of mainstream NASA/Apollo butt sucking flak than
viable contributions upon this or any other topic of worth, though
generally I've identified upon many two-faced individuals contributing
quite nicely wherever there's absolutely no chance of involving
intellectual morals or remorse.
In spite of such flak, I have a few too many questions:
1) Wouldn't there honestly have to be a containment shell, sphere or
perhaps that of an atmosphere of something reacting as rather
anti-photonic (non-illuminating) surrounding anti-matter?
Anti-photonic? Anything that has electric charge can couple to photons.
2) Would not the interaction between the slight energy and otherwise
extremely slight mass associated with the individual photon become
altered in some inverse way as to be safely coexisting around
anti-matter?
Individual photons don't have mass. Systems of photons may have mass
however, e.g. a pion decays to two photons and these two photons as a system
have the same mass as the pion.
3) If a photon was no longer AM/FM modulated, thus nearly resting as
stripped of all associated energy and mass, wouldn't a sufficient
collective of such photons become dark-matter or perhaps dark-energy?
Is the CMBR a candidate for dark matter or dark energy? No. Dark matter
has a particular distribution. A system of photons is going to be moving
at the speed of light and won't exactly be bound to one place. As for
dark energy, that doesn't really work at all. Wrong energy density
behaviour.
4) As perhaps far away from any blackhole, or at least outside the event
horizon, is there anything to the likes of Orme atoms, especially when
it's getting down to one such (absolute zero K) atom/m3?
5) Is there actually any relevant limitation as to the population of
such photons/m3?
Eh, not really per se. What matters more is how much *energy* you're
trying to put in there.
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| User: "John Sefton" |
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| Title: Re: Anti-Matter/Photons as Blackholes, or 1e100 photons/atom |
14 Jan 2005 02:43:03 AM |
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Creighton Hogg wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Brad Guth wrote:
If per given black hole there were to be such a core or nucleus of
anti-matter that's rather nicely surrounded by way of those trillions
upon trillions of photons per atom (perhaps 1e100 photons/atom), then it
stands to my subjective reasoning that a blackhole in of itself is not
necessarily the all-consuming density worth of normal matter, nor that
of any subsequent space time continuum sink-hole of mass that's been
continually touted.
Where is this anti-matter coming from? What's the process that is
producing it? Also, how has it managed to stay there? We've seen
accretion disks going into black holes. If it was anti-matter in there,
it wouldn't be there for very long.
In fact, if this notion of an anti-matter core is what it is, whereas we
should be able to safely utilize such as a viable point-source and/or
that of a super-nullification zone that could be offering us an extreme
performance gateway to wherever, or perhaps otherwise as for that of a
handy pitstop of snatching a little anti-matter as energy along the way.
I've had this topic badly ongoing within other forums, such as the BBC
space forum that sucks, and numerous other supposed all-knowing physics
forums that suck, whereas there has usually been more of their
sanctimonious style of mainstream NASA/Apollo butt sucking flak than
viable contributions upon this or any other topic of worth, though
generally I've identified upon many two-faced individuals contributing
quite nicely wherever there's absolutely no chance of involving
intellectual morals or remorse.
In spite of such flak, I have a few too many questions:
1) Wouldn't there honestly have to be a containment shell, sphere or
perhaps that of an atmosphere of something reacting as rather
anti-photonic (non-illuminating) surrounding anti-matter?
Anti-photonic? Anything that has electric charge can couple to photons.
2) Would not the interaction between the slight energy and otherwise
extremely slight mass associated with the individual photon become
altered in some inverse way as to be safely coexisting around
anti-matter?
Individual photons don't have mass. Systems of photons may have mass
however, e.g. a pion decays to two photons and these two photons as a system
have the same mass as the pion.
3) If a photon was no longer AM/FM modulated, thus nearly resting as
stripped of all associated energy and mass, wouldn't a sufficient
collective of such photons become dark-matter or perhaps dark-energy?
Is the CMBR a candidate for dark matter or dark energy? No. Dark matter
has a particular distribution. SNIP
Explain to us that distribution.
John
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| User: "Brad Guth" |
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| Title: Re: Anti-Matter/Photons as Blackholes, or 1e100 photons/atom |
17 Feb 2005 02:58:26 PM |
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Creighton Hogg; "Where is this anti-matter coming from? What's the
process that is producing it? Also, how has it managed to stay there?
We've seen accretion disks going into black holes. If it was anti-matter
in there, it wouldn't be there for very long."
If I knew where anti-matter came from, I'd be God.
If I knew the process of how it came into existence, I be God.
I believe I've got a viable notion as to how a sufficient surround of
nearly-resting photons are keeping the anti-matter in check.
I agree, that eventually over time and after assimilating those
trillions upon trillions of photons/m3 that are forming a dark cloud
around the anti-matter, that perhaps this process of stripping the
energy and minute mass per photon would either neutralize a portion of
the anti-matter, if not entirely evaporate the blackhole. Either that or
somehow releasing the anti-matter as to finding a new and more
substantial cloud of photons to hide within.
What do you think about nullification zones as being good places for the
likes of anti-matter?
Creighton Hogg; "Anti-photonic? Anything that has electric charge can
couple to photons."
I agree. Even other photons can couple or at least share an alignment of
spinning atoms.
Creighton Hogg; "Individual photons don't have mass. Systems of photons
may have mass however, e.g. a pion decays to two photons and these two
photons as a system have the same mass as the pion."
We simply can't measure the individual mass of even a fully quantum
am/fm modulated photon, much less of one that's nearly resting. Thus
perhaps that's why photons can safely coexist around anti-matter.
Although, I do like your "Systems of photons may have mass".
BTW; what's a "pion"?
Creighton Hogg; "A system of photons is going to be moving at the speed
of light and won't exactly be bound to one place."
I beg to differ.
Creighton Hogg; "As for dark energy, that doesn't really work at all.
Wrong energy density behaviour."
Sounds OK. However, do you have proof as to what dark energy does around
anti-matter?
What's CMBR?
5) Is there actually any relevant limitation as to the population of
such photons/m3?
Creighton Hogg; "Eh, not really per se. What matters more is how much
*energy* you're trying to put in there."
It seems the amount of energy might have to be whatever is in balance
with the anti-matter core, as you can't have too much or too little, as
such things simply could not stay that way for long.
What else besides photons could coexist with anti-matter?
Thanks for the feedback, and I'll look forward to whatever else you've
got to share.
Regards, Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm
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| User: "Franz Heymann" |
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18 Feb 2005 01:04:40 AM |
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"Brad Guth" <bradguth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I believe I've got a viable notion as to how a sufficient surround
of
nearly-resting photons are keeping the anti-matter in check.
What is a "nearly resting surround of photons"?
[snip]
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Franz
One Galileo in 2000 years is enough. Pope Pius XII
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| User: "Brad Guth" |
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| Title: Re: Anti-Matter/Photons as Blackholes, or 1e100 photons/atom |
26 Feb 2005 06:45:43 PM |
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Franz Heymann,
Sorry it's been a while. I've been into at least a dozen other topics,
having to fend off absolute loads of mainstream status quo flak.
"Franz Heymann; What is a 'nearly resting surround of photons'"
This one is going to require a somewhat open-minded form of my highly
subjective point of view. However, what I'm thinking as 'nearly resting
photons' are those as being essentially stripped of their associated
energy and thereby individually contributing much less if any mass,
thus entirely compatible with the likes of anti-matter.
I believe the Hubble photon mass of 5.81e-66 gram as divided by c2
represents 5.81e-66/9e16 = 6.4555e-83, which represents of whatever a
given photon offers that is merely traveling along at one meter/second,
which is 'nearly resting' and I believe consistent with the needs of a
given blackhole that could just as likely have a core of anti-matter
instead of something of great mass.
Of course, the worm-hole notion seems plausible as well, but then where
otherwise is all the anti-matter safely situated?
I seem to have this nagging notion/conjecture that there is a base
population of something better than 1e100 photons/atom, thus obviously
there's a sufficient number of those 2D (quantum string like) photons
to go around/surround something such as a given seed of anti-matter.
And, as far as I know of the laws of physics, only the likes of photons
could safely coexist between the realm of matter and anti-matter. What
do you think?
Regards, Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm
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| User: "DHOLLINGSWORTH2" |
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27 Feb 2005 01:21:53 AM |
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"Brad Guth" <ieisbradguth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Franz Heymann,
Sorry it's been a while. I've been into at least a dozen other topics,
having to fend off absolute loads of mainstream status quo flak.
"Franz Heymann; What is a 'nearly resting surround of photons'"
This one is going to require a somewhat open-minded form of my highly
subjective point of view. However, what I'm thinking as 'nearly resting
photons' are those as being essentially stripped of their associated
energy and thereby individually contributing much less if any mass,
thus entirely compatible with the likes of anti-matter.
I believe the Hubble photon mass of 5.81e-66 gram as divided by c2
represents 5.81e-66/9e16 = 6.4555e-83, which represents of whatever a
given photon offers that is merely traveling along at one meter/second,
which is 'nearly resting' and I believe consistent with the needs of a
given blackhole that could just as likely have a core of anti-matter
instead of something of great mass.
Of course, the worm-hole notion seems plausible as well, but then where
otherwise is all the anti-matter safely situated?
I seem to have this nagging notion/conjecture that there is a base
population of something better than 1e100 photons/atom, thus obviously
there's a sufficient number of those 2D (quantum string like) photons
to go around/surround something such as a given seed of anti-matter.
And, as far as I know of the laws of physics, only the likes of photons
could safely coexist between the realm of matter and anti-matter. What
do you think?
Regards, Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm
It stands to reason that
- if losing energy means transfering energy to an object at a lower energy
state,
-then there is a whole lot of objects at an extreemly low energy state to
tranfer energy to.
Which would tend to support your idea.
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| User: "Brad Guth" |
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| Title: Re: Anti-Matter/Photons as Blackholes, or 1e100 photons/atom |
07 Mar 2005 04:41:50 PM |
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DHOLLINGSWORTH2,
That's actually not such a half-bad notion, as I hadn't given the
thought as to the 'lower energy state' of which you'd think a seed or
core of anti-matter should represent the exact opposite of matter, thus
anti-matter being the reverse polarity of matter should also give some
support as to the notion of photons being stripped of their energy and
whatever slight mass, thus sort of forming a nifty collective or cloud
like cloak which we might detect as dark-matter, dark-energy and/or as
said blackhole.
Regards, Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS topics:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm
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