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"Evan Olson" |
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24 Jan 2005 12:07:19 AM |
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Are gravity fields uniform? |
Is there any experimental evidence to show that the gravitational field
generated by a particle is actually uniform in all directions?
Magnetic fields have directional components that make them stronger in some
directions than others. Is it possible that gravitational fields have
similar properties, but the effect is never noticed because the particles of
matter are randomly organized just like the magnetic fields in
non-magnetized matter?
There could even be directions where the gravitational field generated by a
particle is a repulsive force instead of an attractive one. Something
attractive on an xz plane, but repulsive on the y axis or something.
I've seen in a couple books that the force of gravity is smaller than it
seems like it should be. Would something like this remove the need for
parallel universes smashing together?
Disclaimer: I'm not a physicist. I'm just an amature with a math degree and
a lot of interest in the field.
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| User: "Franz Heymann" |
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| Title: Re: Are gravity fields uniform? |
24 Jan 2005 02:56:56 AM |
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"Evan Olson" <olson102spam@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ig0Jd.2241$rv.1362@fed1read03...
Is there any experimental evidence to show that the gravitational
field
generated by a particle is actually uniform in all directions?
Magnetic fields have directional components that make them stronger
in some
directions than others. Is it possible that gravitational fields
have
similar properties, but the effect is never noticed because the
particles of
matter are randomly organized just like the magnetic fields in
non-magnetized matter?
There is no possible arrangement of dipole, or any higher
multipolarity, fields which can simulate a monopole field, since the
multipole functions are an orthogonal set.
[snip]
Franz
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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| Title: Re: Are gravity fields uniform? |
24 Jan 2005 11:27:31 AM |
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Evan Olson wrote:
Is there any experimental evidence to show that the gravitational field
generated by a particle is actually uniform in all directions?
The geoid is not uniform. It is fit with a 360-degree polynomial.
Green's function and gravimeters used to find dense ores or low
density petroleum deposits are all about non-uniform gravity.
Far-field gravitation depends on locations and intensities of its
local delta function generators. Before you go running out with a
hard-on, note that localizing quarks and gluons in a hadron or the
sheaf of Feynman diagrams hiding leptons doesn't happen, even in
principle. Stuff averages faster than measurement is possible. What
is the mass-energy equivalent of your scale of looking vs. the
effective mass of that which you are examining? Tch, tch.
There is no empirical evidence that gravitation exists below about 10
microns center-of-mass separation.
Magnetic fields have directional components that make them stronger in some
directions than others. Is it possible that gravitational fields have
similar properties, but the effect is never noticed because the particles of
matter are randomly organized just like the magnetic fields in
non-magnetized matter?
See above. Either way would make no detectable difference.
There could even be directions where the gravitational field generated by a
particle is a repulsive force instead of an attractive one.
*****. There is no empirically non-falsified theory of gravitation
that allows for either shielding or repulsion.
Something
attractive on an xz plane, but repulsive on the y axis or something.
Spacetime is covariant - it has no coordinate background. That is one
reason why it is such a ***** to quantize. Spin (fermions) is not
isotropic. Spacetime could be chiral as well. The Weak force breaks
parity without coordinates or reference frames with the
coordinate-invariant vector triple product.
I've seen in a couple books that the force of gravity is smaller than it
seems like it should be. Would something like this remove the need for
parallel universes smashing together?
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/eotvos.htm#b8
Disclaimer: I'm not a physicist. I'm just an amature with a math degree and
a lot of interest in the field.
You call yourself a mathematician? Did any of your courses include
the phrases "self-consistent" and "rigorously derived?"
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Are gravity fields uniform? |
25 Jan 2005 10:31:01 AM |
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Im the king of finding oil fool.
Uncle idiot.....gravity is not how we find oil.
Oil and rock conduct sound at 2 rates.
geo-phones.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Are gravity fields uniform? |
25 Jan 2005 11:17:03 AM |
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Evry pit is the same shape.
a single atom or a planet of atoms.
Shape not size.
Can be any size pit but shaped like a pit.
Like low energy .
Mass is the sum of its low.
EVRY atom gains mass going UP.
evry atom has more mass on one side of its own pit than the
other.
1/2 of evry atom is pushing the other 1/2.
there is no pull , no attraction,, just an energy slope.
the top half of the atom is in a higher energy.
Mass is the SUM of its low.
Atoms change mass at C.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
GRAVITYPHYSICS
alian sailor at large now making 2 billion usd a year.
Dominating the world market with 500 mpg cars soon , building strange
hdroelectric plants that will magnifie Hover dam 1000 times.
Builder of clear steel and the mercury big block
compresion chamber worlds record compresion . 87 inventions .
The UFO built inside a ship flys.
The whole fucking 14000 ton boat can now fly over water.
The disk had 5 years to gain rpm driven by laser beams to make it
spin .
The big atom is 100 years or 1000 years over nasa heads.
nasa dont know ***** about gravity.
Gravityphsics builds a ufo inside a 14000 ton ice braker and makes
clear steel in cold places . A big pice of clear steel !!
The chamber wall its self with all the steel burnt off the clear steel.
8 tons of supperconducting clear steel.
Frictionless and spinning.
Mass in motion takes up more space.
adding to the low of the mass.
The sum of the low is its mass.
............................................................
because up is more mass .
If I move the spinning at 1/2 c disk to the top of the hold ,,more of
the mass of the ship will fall up than down.
falling is more mass falling to the center of the atom than the other
side.
1/2 the atom has more mass falling twards its center and 1/2 the atom
is then pushing the other half ,,,the atom is moving because 1/2 of it
has more mass falling.
The atom is pushing its self DOWN .
Pull and attraction is just an illusion in your ingorant heads.
push to less energy .
push to less mass.
up is gain in mass
down is less mass
=A0=A0=A0=A0At the rate an atom changes mass
In any energy slope mass will be displaced at the rate it can change
mass.
=A0=A0The rate an atom can change mass is fixed. as an atom is an energy
slope has more mass on 1/2 the atom than the other.
=A0=A0. >>>> but kenetic energy is mass in motion. As the atom is in
motion it takes up more space per time unit. 1/2 the atom has a larger
LOW as it takes up more space per time unit. The sum of the low is mass.
<<<<
An atom in motion threw energy as it expands is taking up more space as
it moves . Eliminating space ahead and leaving a low behind.,<<<<<
=A0=A0=A0=A0As an atom moves threw one time frame
=A0=A0the streak it leaves in time will afect how much mass is on each
side of the atom and a gain in mass is pushing te other 1/2 of atom .
=A0=A0the distortion or drag of an atom in motion is a low and part of
the sum of te atoms mass.
kenetic energy is related to gravity as they boath deal with the rate an
atom changes mass. <<<<<<
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0The speed of fall is fixed.
The reason the rock hits the moon instead of the moon and rock moving
twards each other
=A0=A0is kenetic energy .
=A0=A0The energy slope at the serface of the moon is 90 deg . On the
earth
its 90 deg.
=A0=A0a rock falls the same speed on the moon . It wieghs 1/6 but falls
the same speed.
=A0=A0nasa has it wrong.
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| User: "Fred Chen" |
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| Title: Re: Are gravity fields uniform? |
24 Jan 2005 12:52:02 AM |
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Evan Olson wrote:
Magnetic fields have directional components that make them stronger
in some
directions than others. Is it possible that gravitational fields have
similar properties, but the effect is never noticed because the
particles of
matter are randomly organized just like the magnetic fields in
non-magnetized matter?
This is because there are no magnetic "monopoles" only dipoles. N and S
are paired. The lines of force can be traced by iron filings for
example. On the other hand, charge and mass exist as monopoles, which
do have the direction uniformity if the sources are treated as points.
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| User: "Fred Chen" |
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24 Jan 2005 01:00:17 AM |
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Evan Olson wrote:
Is there any experimental evidence to show that the gravitational
field
generated by a particle is actually uniform in all directions?
http://www.factmonster.com/ce6/sci/A0858451.html
There could even be directions where the gravitational field
generated by a
particle is a repulsive force instead of an attractive one. Something
attractive on an xz plane, but repulsive on the y axis or something.
This requires a new theory of gravity.
I've seen in a couple books that the force of gravity is smaller than
it
seems like it should be. Would something like this remove the need
for
parallel universes smashing together?
"Parallel universes smashing together?"
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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24 Jan 2005 11:58:07 PM |
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My Circlon explanation about th egravitation
is based rather on (at the end of the day)
on *ununifirmity* of the gravitation force (and its agents spread)
ie
less forces on the straight line between the acting and acted partners
and more forces at the rare side of those participants in that process
of gravity.
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all the best
Y.Porat
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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25 Jan 2005 09:23:17 AM |
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They dont know ***** about gravity.
They FEAR to know.
Up is more mass and down is less mass.
1/2 of evry atom has more mass than the other
falling twards its own pit.
GRAVITY is a push to less energy.
Gravity is a push to less mass.
Gravityphysics
1/2 that atom is pushing the other 1/2.
Im pushing gravity on the dumbasses that hang out here forever with no
fucking clue.
And yet the ignorant fucking punks think Im stupid.
But they dont know ***** about gravity.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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25 Jan 2005 09:20:26 AM |
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They dont know ***** about gravity.
They FEAR to know.
Up is more mass and down is less mass.
1/2 of evry atom has more mass than the other
falling twards its own pit.
GRAVITY is a push to less energy.
Gravity is a push to less mass.
Gravityphysics
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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25 Jan 2005 10:18:32 AM |
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i agree that there must be some push mechanism because ....
no sort of collision can do attraction
yet
how do you like my circular moving graitons (Circlons)
imho no push mechanism can be bwteen particles
whthout some circular movement.
ie circular movenent together with some ununiformity between front and
rare
sides that cuases break of balace of forces ie unbalanced force
that pushes them closer on the sortest line between the acting bodies.
all the best
Y.Porat
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: Are gravity fields uniform? |
25 Jan 2005 09:59:39 AM |
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tj Frazir wrote:
They dont know ***** about gravity.
Meaning: tj dont know ***** about gravity.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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25 Jan 2005 10:26:24 AM |
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Meaning Sam dont know ***** .
TELL US then SAM.
Do you then agree Gravity is a push to less energy. ?
Do you agree UP IS A GAIN IN MASS ??
Then 1/2 the atom gained more mass than the other 1/2 .
At the center of evry atom is the pit evryting orbits and falls twards.
BUT in an energy slope
of gravity UP is a gain in mass .
There is more MASS on one side of the atoms low than the other SOO
SAM,,,
1/2 the atom pushes the other 1/2 as long as more mass is falling on
one side than the other.
GRAVITY is just the low around mass .
BUT its the change in mass in each atom that moves each atom .
JUST one atom falling is not attraction not a pull ,,its 1/2 the atom
pushing the other 1/2.
GRAVITY IS A push to less energy.
A push to less MASS
Gravity is a push to less mass.
1/2 the nucleus has more mass on one side than the other .
The atom PUSHES its SELF down.
Nothing PULLS on it.
YOUR TURN SAM : ))
Its your turn sam : ))
Now its sams turn !!
Sam cant do it =A1=A1
Its your turn sam
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Are gravity fields uniform? |
24 Jan 2005 07:44:25 AM |
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:07:19 -0800, "Evan Olson"
<olson102spam@cox.net> wrote:
Is there any experimental evidence to show that the gravitational field
generated by a particle is actually uniform in all directions?
Magnetic fields have directional components that make them stronger in some
directions than others. Is it possible that gravitational fields have
similar properties, but the effect is never noticed because the particles of
matter are randomly organized just like the magnetic fields in
non-magnetized matter?
There could even be directions where the gravitational field generated by a
particle is a repulsive force instead of an attractive one. Something
attractive on an xz plane, but repulsive on the y axis or something.
I've seen in a couple books that the force of gravity is smaller than it
seems like it should be. Would something like this remove the need for
parallel universes smashing together?
Disclaimer: I'm not a physicist. I'm just an amature with a math degree and
a lot of interest in the field.
That would be a difficult experiment to conduct.
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