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"don findlay" |
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23 Dec 2007 12:06:46 AM |
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BACK TO SCHOOL FOR STUARTIE W. |
Stuart leads the flock in his concepts of Plate Tectonics, which are
still set in the year of his graduation (circa 54BC) (Bloody caveman)
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Improving the teaching of plate tectonics: teacher education by means
of a scientific approach that deals with teacher misconceptions
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A series of interactive workshops is being offered as an INSET
programme (In-Service Education and Training) to schools by the Earth
Science Education Unit at Keele University in order to support
teaching of plate tectonics. Plate tectonics and the structure of the
Earth were chosen for the following reasons:
* these topics are in the National Curriculum for Science at Key
Stage (KS) 4 (14 - 16 year olds) and so are part of all science
examinations syllabuses for 16 year olds;
* since plate tectonics is also part of the National Curriculum
for Geography at KS3 (11-14 year olds), science teachers find it
difficult to develop, at KS4 level, the understanding that pupils
bring from Geography;
* the Earth science background of the majority of teachers that
teach plate tectonics is very poor;
* as a result, they hold a variety of misconceptions;
* in some areas they exhibit a **MAJOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE AND
UNDERSTANDING**
* errors and oversimplifications on these topics in science
syllabuses, examinations and textbooks exacerbate these problems.
http://goodpractice.gees.ac.uk/cgi-bin/searchspec.pl?terms=159
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Joke over. But what is not a joke is how the shifting sands of Plate
Tectonic, shuffled by the likes of Stu and that good looking
Zabaglioni fellow at Harvard (or is it Yale), who took his picture
down from the web within twenty four hours of getting a mention, have
left teachers all over the world all screwed up and in need of
remedial training. This is the *real* consequence of Plate
Tectonics, ..muddying the waters and dirtying the slates. And then
their students have the cheek to come on this newsgroup thinking they
know stuff - and argue the toss. ('Cept Jo, ..she never argues about
anything except walking sticks and pencil sharpeners..)
(Bunch of bloody drop-out tossers.)
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01 Jan 2008 05:14:14 PM |
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90% of the Earth's seismic energy is released in subduction zones in
large-magnitude earthquakes (>7.0 Magnitude) that reach to 600-800km
depth. That leaves about 10% of energy to be released at the
spreading ridges where most movement takes place on transform faults.
But cycling convection expressed as movement in brittle crust should
logically require a rough equivalence of energy release between zones
where mantle crust is being moved along at the spreading ridges, and
zones where mantle crust is being moved down in subduction zones.
Plate Tectonics explains this by saying that the oceanic lithosphere
(which is the convecting agent) is only as thick as the crust at the
ridges (about 10-12km) (where it is hot and rising), ..and more than
ten times as thick in subduction zones (where it is cold and sinking),
i.e., approximtely ten times more energy should be needed to move
thicker crust than thinner crust. However between the ridges and the
subduction zones the ocean floors are seismically silent; i.e.,
spreading ridges and subduction zones are seismically (and therefore
tectonically) disconnected. This disconnect is not explained in Plate
Tectonics - apparently no energy at all is required to move the
thousands of kilometres ocean floor from spreading ridge to subduction
zone. Plate Tectonics has attempted to explain this conundrum in two
ways. The first is 'piggy-backing' where the oceanic crust rides on
the back of a mantle convection cell. But this has been discounted
since a subducting slab - not a heat-driven convecting mantle - is
now deemed to be the driver for Plate Tectonics; i.e., the subducting
slab is dragging the ocean floor, ..all the way back to the spreading
ridge, down with it. (What? With no earthquakes? ... or semblance of
deformation in a plate that is riddled with old ridge fractures and
transform faults? Surely not. )
The other is the concept of "ridge-push", ...the concept that eight to
ten kilometres thickness of mantle crust at the ridges can *PUSH*
around two hundred kilometres of thickness of oceanic lithosphere down
subduction zones half a world away, with absolutely no semblance of
deformation or seismic activity or resistance of any sort in between.
(This is too much, .. I think I need another Bex and a lie-down. And
exams only two weeks away..)
"Teach? ... Help? ... "
"Imbecile. If you haven't been paying attention to what's been taught
to you all term that's your lookout. Recite after me..:-
"The outward transfer of earth's internal heat drives convection"
(returns 212 word-for-word entries.)
http://tinyurl.com/255ahm
(Very important to get the jargon right. No need to worry if it
doesn't make sense, it's the wording that counts.)
The sum total of Stuart's response to questions on Plate Tectonics :-
"Obviously you don't understand the many facts supporting Plate
Tectonics" is no more than mealy-mouthed maunderings. (Words that
don't count.)
and (The War Cry)-
"What have you published in a peer-reviewed journal!!??)
So read what this bloke has to say about science, scientists, and peer
review
http://tinyurl.com/34b4at
(Why is Plate Tectonics such a many-headed hydra of contradictions
that don't make sense? Because all the nuts and bolts are screwed
together by so many career artists working the Gift.. The one that
keeps on giving, as they try to milk it for ever more return
&&"They're only putting in a nickel..
And they want a dollar song.."
(Just people, ..doing 'science' and chawing on they're share."
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01 Jan 2008 05:19:48 PM |
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(Just people, ..doing 'science' and chawing on they're share."
That right Stu? You're no better - and probably a lot worse, ..than
the garbage man
(With apologies to the garbage man...)
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| User: "don findlay" |
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01 Jan 2008 05:36:37 AM |
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One for Stuart, so he knows (as we head into 2008 nearly a decade into
this 21st Century) all is well with the world - that The Gift is still
Giving - and that he can come out of his corner.
(Come on Stuartie, ..Coochey coochey Coooooo! )
PLATE TECTONICS MODEL#1
"Subduction drives plate tectonics and is due to cooling from the top:
circulation is self-organized, and likely is closed above the
discontinuity near 660 km. "
(Smithsonian/NASA ADS Physics Abstract Service)
PLATE TECTONICS MODEL#2
"The contrary consensus that plate tectonics is driven by bottom
heating and involves the entire mantle combines misunderstood
kinematics with flawed concepts of through-the-mantle plumes and
subduction."
(Smithsonian/NASA ADS Physics Abstract Service; same cit.)
Two models. And no mention in either of them of the smart part -
where the continental lithosphere forces the oceanic lithosphere down
subduction zones
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/nonsense/fails.html
How come? What's are poor Teachers to do, Stu, ..Like Landy
there, ..thinking he's filled to the brim with nollidge, ...when both
of them (models) are garbage? Is it fair to blame him for his
incompetence in Plate Tectonic Theory? (That's *theory*, by the way,
nothing to do with fact. ..) ("Well, ..nobody ever said Plate
Tectonics had anything to do with anything so straight-jacketing as
FACT, ..did they?.."
And what was all that stupid idea (model # 2) about anyway?... about
the Earth's internal heat driving convection, that combines
MISUNDERSTOOD KINEMATICS with FLAWED CONCEPTS?
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"Tomographic inference of deep-mantle subduction is presented
misleadingly and may reflect methodological and sampling artifacts
(downward smearing, and concentration of recorded body waves in
bundles within broad anomalies otherwise poorly sampled)."
(same geezer.)
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"*Inference*" you'll note. ... Where, exactly is THE DATA?
You'll notice this fine distinction by the illuminati of the
difference between what is the driver for *Plate Tectonics* and what
is the driver for *convection*, and what is the driver for
*subduction*.
"Ah, ..but you SEE, .."The outward transfer of earth's internal heat
drives convection, .. CONVECTION drives SUBDUCTION, and SUBDUCTION
drives PLATE TECTONICS. Nobody ever said *convection* drives Plate
Tectonics If they did then they're a *WANKER*. That's a FALSE and
FLAWED concept. If you don't know that then clearly THINKING FOR
YOURSELF is not good enough, not the way to do Science - not science
of the consensus sort anyway. You need to read some books. Make sure
you Know what everybody else (the 'o come-all-ye') BELIEVES.
Come on stu, ..THE DATA..
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"Refractory lower mantle convects slowly, perhaps in layers, and loses
primarily original heat, whereas upper mantle churns rapidly, and the
660 decoupling boundary must have evolved into a compositional barrier
also. Plate motions are driven by subduction, the passive falling away
of oceanic lithosphere which is negatively buoyant because of top-
down cooling.
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Is that it??? Top-down coooling (shrinking) (from the ridges to the
subduction zones) makes the crust sink?
(The logic of this is too much for *me* to handle. I think *I* need
some tea and a lie down.)
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01 Jan 2008 03:29:05 PM |
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On 1 jan, 12:36, don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:
One for Stuart, so he knows (as we head into 2008 nearly a decade into
this 21st Century) all is well with the world - that The Gift is still
Giving - and that he can come out of his corner.
(Come on Stuartie, ..Coochey coochey Coooooo! =A0)
PLATE TECTONICS MODEL#1
"Subduction drives plate tectonics and is due to cooling from the top:
circulation is self-organized, and likely is closed above the
discontinuity near 660 km. "
(Smithsonian/NASA ADS Physics Abstract Service)
PLATE TECTONICS MODEL#2
"The contrary consensus that plate tectonics is driven by bottom
heating and involves the entire mantle combines misunderstood
kinematics with flawed concepts of through-the-mantle plumes and
subduction."
(Smithsonian/NASA ADS Physics Abstract Service; same cit.)
Two models. =A0And no mention in either of them of the smart part -
where the continental lithosphere forces the oceanic lithosphere down
subduction zoneshttp://users.indigo.net.au/don/nonsense/fails.html
How come? =A0What's are =A0poor Teachers to do, Stu, ..Like Landy
there, ..thinking he's filled to the brim with nollidge, ...when both
of them (models) are garbage? Is it fair to blame him for his
incompetence in Plate Tectonic Theory? (That's *theory*, by the way,
nothing to do with fact. ..) ("Well, ..nobody ever said Plate
Tectonics had anything to do with anything so straight-jacketing as
FACT, ..did they?.."
And what was all that stupid idea (model # 2) about anyway?... about
the Earth's internal heat driving convection, that combines
MISUNDERSTOOD KINEMATICS =A0with FLAWED CONCEPTS?
---------------------------------------
"Tomographic inference of deep-mantle subduction is presented
misleadingly and may reflect methodological and sampling artifacts
(downward smearing, and concentration of recorded body waves in
bundles within broad anomalies otherwise poorly sampled)."
(same geezer.)
---------------------------------------
"*Inference*" you'll note. =A0... =A0Where, exactly is THE DATA?
You'll notice this fine distinction by the illuminati of the
difference between what is the driver for *Plate Tectonics* and what
is the driver for *convection*, and what is the driver for
*subduction*.
"Ah, ..but you SEE, .."The outward transfer of earth's internal heat
drives convection, .. CONVECTION drives SUBDUCTION, and SUBDUCTION
drives PLATE TECTONICS. =A0Nobody ever said *convection* drives Plate
Tectonics =A0If they did then they're a =A0*WANKER*. =A0That's a FALSE and=
FLAWED concept. =A0If you don't know that then clearly THINKING FOR
YOURSELF is not good =A0enough, not the way to do Science - not science
of the consensus sort anyway. =A0You need to read some books. =A0Make sure=
you Know what everybody else (the 'o come-all-ye') =A0BELIEVES.
Come on stu, ..THE DATA..
----------------------------------
"Refractory lower mantle convects slowly, perhaps in layers, and loses
primarily original heat, whereas upper mantle churns rapidly, and the
660 decoupling boundary must have evolved into a compositional barrier
also. Plate motions are driven by subduction, the passive falling away
of =A0oceanic lithosphere which is negatively buoyant because of top-
down cooling.
-----------------------------------
Is that it??? =A0 Top-down coooling (shrinking) (from the ridges to the
subduction zones) makes the crust sink?
(The logic of this is too much for *me* to handle. =A0I think *I* need
some tea and a lie down.)
Whatever model it should be filling the Earth faults and other deep
sea trenches, and what we do see are new faults opening & the deep sea
trenches saying put .
Problem there ! ..
Does incoherence of their positions affects the little soldiers of
Plate Tectonics at all ? Of course not, their have been issued orders
to stand guard and prevent any intrusion into the Forbidden City,
until the Mandarins have had time to prepare their exits ... once
those are all out on a good pensions schemes then Stuart & Co will
surrender to the invading force of the PE & EE, with the already made
excuses that they really all knew about it already... since ages !
See Don, the changes have to be coming from them with all the panache
& prestige of such discovery, to which you and your friends worked so
hard to bring to the fore;
=2E.. all geological frauds do likewise & I have some good example up my
sleeves.
Rings a bell ?
In the meantime they are foraging their fat salaries into the bank &
this is really what matters to these guys.
jpturcaud
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01 Jan 2008 05:02:01 PM |
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wrote:
On 1 jan, 12:36, don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:
One for Stuart, so he knows (as we head into 2008 nearly a decade into
this 21st Century) all is well with the world - that The Gift is still
Giving - and that he can come out of his corner.
(Come on Stuartie, ..Coochey coochey Coooooo! =EF=BF=BD)
PLATE TECTONICS MODEL#1
"Subduction drives plate tectonics and is due to cooling from the top:
circulation is self-organized, and likely is closed above the
discontinuity near 660 km. "
(Smithsonian/NASA ADS Physics Abstract Service)
PLATE TECTONICS MODEL#2
"The contrary consensus that plate tectonics is driven by bottom
heating and involves the entire mantle combines misunderstood
kinematics with flawed concepts of through-the-mantle plumes and
subduction."
(Smithsonian/NASA ADS Physics Abstract Service; same cit.)
Two models. =EF=BF=BDAnd no mention in either of them of the smart part =
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where the continental lithosphere forces the oceanic lithosphere down
subduction zoneshttp://users.indigo.net.au/don/nonsense/fails.html
How come? =EF=BF=BDWhat's are =EF=BF=BDpoor Teachers to do, Stu, ..Like =
Landy
there, ..thinking he's filled to the brim with nollidge, ...when both
of them (models) are garbage? Is it fair to blame him for his
incompetence in Plate Tectonic Theory? (That's *theory*, by the way,
nothing to do with fact. ..) ("Well, ..nobody ever said Plate
Tectonics had anything to do with anything so straight-jacketing as
FACT, ..did they?.."
And what was all that stupid idea (model # 2) about anyway?... about
the Earth's internal heat driving convection, that combines
MISUNDERSTOOD KINEMATICS =EF=BF=BDwith FLAWED CONCEPTS?
---------------------------------------
"Tomographic inference of deep-mantle subduction is presented
misleadingly and may reflect methodological and sampling artifacts
(downward smearing, and concentration of recorded body waves in
bundles within broad anomalies otherwise poorly sampled)."
(same geezer.)
---------------------------------------
"*Inference*" you'll note. =EF=BF=BD... =EF=BF=BDWhere, exactly is THE D=
ATA?
You'll notice this fine distinction by the illuminati of the
difference between what is the driver for *Plate Tectonics* and what
is the driver for *convection*, and what is the driver for
*subduction*.
"Ah, ..but you SEE, .."The outward transfer of earth's internal heat
drives convection, .. CONVECTION drives SUBDUCTION, and SUBDUCTION
drives PLATE TECTONICS. =EF=BF=BDNobody ever said *convection* drives Pl=
ate
Tectonics =EF=BF=BDIf they did then they're a =EF=BF=BD*WANKER*. =EF=BF=
=BDThat's a FALSE and
FLAWED concept. =EF=BF=BDIf you don't know that then clearly THINKING FO=
R
YOURSELF is not good =EF=BF=BDenough, not the way to do Science - not sc=
ience
of the consensus sort anyway. =EF=BF=BDYou need to read some books. =EF=
=BF=BDMake sure
you Know what everybody else (the 'o come-all-ye') =EF=BF=BDBELIEVES.
Come on stu, ..THE DATA..
----------------------------------
"Refractory lower mantle convects slowly, perhaps in layers, and loses
primarily original heat, whereas upper mantle churns rapidly, and the
660 decoupling boundary must have evolved into a compositional barrier
also. Plate motions are driven by subduction, the passive falling away
of =EF=BF=BDoceanic lithosphere which is negatively buoyant because of t=
op-
down cooling.
-----------------------------------
Is that it??? =EF=BF=BD Top-down coooling (shrinking) (from the ridges t=
o the
subduction zones) makes the crust sink?
(The logic of this is too much for *me* to handle. =EF=BF=BDI think *I* =
need
some tea and a lie down.)
Whatever model it should be filling the Earth faults and other deep
sea trenches, and what we do see are new faults opening & the deep sea
trenches saying put .
Problem there ! ..
Does incoherence of their positions affects the little soldiers of
Plate Tectonics at all ? Of course not, their have been issued orders
to stand guard and prevent any intrusion into the Forbidden City,
until the Mandarins have had time to prepare their exits ... once
those are all out on a good pensions schemes then Stuart & Co will
surrender to the invading force of the PE & EE, with the already made
excuses that they really all knew about it already... since ages !
See Don, the changes have to be coming from them with all the panache
& prestige of such discovery, to which you and your friends worked so
hard to bring to the fore;
... all geological frauds do likewise & I have some good example up my
sleeves.
Rings a bell ?
In the meantime they are foraging their fat salaries into the bank &
this is really what matters to these guys.
jpturcaud
Yeah, .. Well, of course, ..As Stuart originally said, .."The Gift
that keeps on giving" .
(The real meaning of consensus. )
(Nothing to do with the science. )
("Nyahhh, ..What have you published!!?? )
As if publication is somehow a measure of commitment to science. It
isn't. It's a commitment to consensus, ..and as has been said many
times on this ng. "If it's consensus, it isn't science"
http://www.s8int.com/crichton.html
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| User: "don findlay" |
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26 Dec 2007 05:00:58 PM |
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Some more reading for you Stuart, about how your and that of others
convectional rubbish is muddying the waters of global tectonics :-
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/nonsense/transoffsets.html
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| User: "don findlay" |
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27 Dec 2007 04:55:05 PM |
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don findlay wrote:
Some more reading for you Stuart, about how your and that of others
convectional rubbish is muddying the waters of global tectonics :-
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/nonsense/transoffsets.html
Wot? No comment? Can you not even do the bit about ductile flow
again...?
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| User: "Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times" |
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28 Dec 2007 01:10:59 AM |
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On 27 d=E9c, 23:55, don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:
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=B5> Wot? =A0 No comment? =A0 Can you not even do the bit about ductile flow=
=B5> again...?
Are such articles by the Weinstein we know ?
1 Thermal-Convection In a Cylindrical Annulus With a Non-Newto..
(context) - Weinstein - 1996
1 The effect of convection planform on the toroidalpoloidal en..
(context) - Weinstein - 1998
1 Thermal-Convection With NonNewtonian Plates (context) - Weinstein
- 1992
Best jpt
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| User: "Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times" |
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28 Dec 2007 01:33:21 AM |
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On 28 d=E9c, 08:10, Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
<australia.mining-pion...@neuf.fr> wrote:
On 27 d=E9c, 23:55, don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:
=B5>
=B5> Wot? =A0 No comment? =A0 Can you not even do the bit about ductile fl=
ow
=B5> again...?
Are such articles by the Weinstein we know ?
1 =A0 Thermal-Convection In a Cylindrical Annulus With a Non-Newto..
(context) - Weinstein - 1996
1 =A0 The effect of convection planform on the toroidalpoloidal en..
(context) - Weinstein - 1998
1 =A0 Thermal-Convection With NonNewtonian Plates (context) - Weinstein
- 1992
Best jpt
The demonstration of such site : http://goodpractice.gees.ac.uk/cgi-bin/sear=
chspec.pl?terms=3D159
is that both teachers & students have no mind of their own, and
whatever is held as dogma must be enforced through duress ! No
question asked just answers fed in, and the questions later will be
subservient to the answers provided !
See how vicious is the system and to force all that down overfeeding
is the method, a kind of terror system where correct feedback is test
will ensure the pass mark to economic security or to failure &
rejection in the limbs of poverty !
See, you either go along with the Plate Tectonic idiocy of the present
Flat-Earthers & other types of Geocentrists or you are out to be a
bricklayer labourer & hard work too !!!
Universilities degrees are a warranty on the other hand that you will
be in the cool when it's hot, and in the warm when it's cold
outside ..There is NO other reason for all those guys going through
the cursus and parents pushing their offspring in that line ! Real
Understanding is out of the equation ...Understanding what the
Thought- Masters & Academic Slaves' Drivers want them to learn by
heart is what does matter for Economic Comfort !
Okay ?
The problem is that the array of errors encompass the whole Geography
& Geology as taught now, from the false models of Accretion, Big Bang,
Red Shift, Relativity etc .... all is false ...hence the present
Global Warming Consequences which will clear out the wheat from the
shaft I believe, since the problem of crass ignorance .is redundant in
all fields of knowledge : Medecine, Agriculture, Economy, History
etc
Best. jp
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| User: "don findlay" |
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28 Dec 2007 05:35:31 AM |
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Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times wrote:
On 28 d=EF=BF=BDc, 08:10, Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Time=
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<australia.mining-pion...@neuf.fr> wrote:
On 27 d=EF=BF=BDc, 23:55, don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:
=EF=BF=BD>
=EF=BF=BD> Wot? =EF=BF=BD No comment? =EF=BF=BD Can you not even do the =
bit about ductile flow
=EF=BF=BD> again...?
Are such articles by the Weinstein we know ?
1 =EF=BF=BD Thermal-Convection In a Cylindrical Annulus With a Non-Newto=
...
(context) - Weinstein - 1996
1 =EF=BF=BD The effect of convection planform on the toroidalpoloidal en=
...
(context) - Weinstein - 1998
1 =EF=BF=BD Thermal-Convection With NonNewtonian Plates (context) - Wein=
stein
- 1992
Best jpt
The demonstration of such site : http://goodpractice.gees.ac.uk/cgi-bin/se=
archspec.pl?terms=3D159
is that both teachers & students have no mind of their own, and
whatever is held as dogma must be enforced through duress ! No
question asked just answers fed in, and the questions later will be
subservient to the answers provided !
See how vicious is the system and to force all that down overfeeding
is the method, a kind of terror system where correct feedback is test
will ensure the pass mark to economic security or to failure &
rejection in the limbs of poverty !
See, you either go along with the Plate Tectonic idiocy of the present
Flat-Earthers & other types of Geocentrists or you are out to be a
bricklayer labourer & hard work too !!!
Universilities degrees are a warranty on the other hand that you will
be in the cool when it's hot, and in the warm when it's cold
outside ..There is NO other reason for all those guys going through
the cursus and parents pushing their offspring in that line ! Real
Understanding is out of the equation ...Understanding what the
Thought- Masters & Academic Slaves' Drivers want them to learn by
heart is what does matter for Economic Comfort !
Okay ?
The problem is that the array of errors encompass the whole Geography
& Geology as taught now, from the false models of Accretion, Big Bang,
Red Shift, Relativity etc .... all is false ...hence the present
Global Warming Consequences which will clear out the wheat from the
shaft I believe, since the problem of crass ignorance .is redundant in
all fields of knowledge : Medecine, Agriculture, Economy, History
etc
Best. jp
Yup. That's it. @@"Wee aAAll live in a Yellow Submari..." I mean
a Supercomputer...@@@
"Wee all live in a rubber supercomputer
rubber supercomputer, rubber supercomputer..."
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| User: "don findlay" |
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28 Dec 2007 05:55:34 AM |
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Interesting point, isn't it, ..that all that rubbery supercomputer
manipulation isn't worth a zac. Even less than that, because it's so
misleading.
&&.." And our frieeeeends are all aboard,
Many more of them live next door,
And the band begins to play..."
Hey, ..Stu... .. .. ! (Full speed ahead, Mr. W., full speed ahead!
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30 Dec 2007 04:41:00 PM |
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don findlay wrote:
don findlay wrote:
Some more reading for you Stuart, about how your and that of others
convectional rubbish is muddying the waters of global tectonics :-
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/nonsense/transoffsets.html
Wot? No comment? Can you not even do the bit about ductile flow
again...?
Come on Stu, .. We're waiting,.. Not even the hairline fracture
every minute of every day, ..dilating to the Full Monty of ten
centimetres a year, ..all around the globe, jumping from one transform
segment to the next with pinpoint accuracy??? No??
You're short-changing us, mate. Come on. We're all agog. What's
this convection worth then after all?
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30 Dec 2007 05:51:33 PM |
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On 30 d=E9c, 23:41, don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:
don findlay wrote:
don findlay wrote:
Some more reading for you Stuart, about how your and that of others
convectional rubbish is muddying the waters of global tectonics :-
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/nonsense/transoffsets.html
Wot? =A0 No comment? =A0 Can you not even do the bit about ductile flow
again...?
Come on Stu, .. =A0 We're waiting,.. =A0 Not even the hairline fracture
every minute of every day, ..dilating to the Full Monty of ten
centimetres a year, ..all around the globe, jumping from one transform
segment to the next with pinpoint accuracy??? =A0 No??
You're short-changing us, mate. =A0Come on. =A0We're all agog. =A0What's
this convection worth then after all?
May be he tried after all to understand PE & its special case EE and
his CPU did not stand it ... may be some kind of epilepsy fit or brain
thrombosis ! Poor Stu !
Are we going to be invited to its Kaddish prayer alongside Georges &
his wife ? I doubt it !
True Geology is not welcome at the Synaq neither at the Churq nor at
the Mosq .... indeed !
Do you understand why ?
Simply because True Geology put all those religious gurus out of
balance since it demonstrates the folly of their dogmas ... the one
underlying the present fraudulent Geology ! Like Earth born on present
orbit and going there till the end of time, and also the evident dogma
of matter seen by the religious Dude as the foundation of their juicy
business ....
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See, we the Rabbids, Mollards / Ayatollards & Preests care about the
Spiritual, the Spiritual is our reserved hunting ground !
Unquote
In true Geology there is no border between the Material & the
Spiritual, just a continuum relative to the Local gradient of energy
determining the type of matter possible there on that Cosmic Density
Atmosphere !
Poor Steward, he did not make it to the end of the year .... do you
feel a bit guilty Don ?
Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer
Founder of the True Geology
~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One never Forgiven ~
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30 Dec 2007 09:39:41 PM |
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wrote:
On 30 d=EF=BF=BDc, 23:41, don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:
don findlay wrote:
don findlay wrote:
Some more reading for you Stuart, about how your and that of others
convectional rubbish is muddying the waters of global tectonics :-
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/nonsense/transoffsets.html
Wot? =EF=BF=BD No comment? =EF=BF=BD Can you not even do the bit about=
ductile flow
again...?
Come on Stu, .. =EF=BF=BD We're waiting,.. =EF=BF=BD Not even the hairli=
ne fracture
every minute of every day, ..dilating to the Full Monty of ten
centimetres a year, ..all around the globe, jumping from one transform
segment to the next with pinpoint accuracy??? =EF=BF=BD No??
You're short-changing us, mate. =EF=BF=BDCome on. =EF=BF=BDWe're all ago=
g. =EF=BF=BDWhat's
this convection worth then after all?
May be he tried after all to understand PE & its special case EE and
his CPU did not stand it ... may be some kind of epilepsy fit or brain
thrombosis ! Poor Stu !
Are we going to be invited to its Kaddish prayer alongside Georges &
his wife ? I doubt it !
True Geology is not welcome at the Synaq neither at the Churq nor at
the Mosq .... indeed !
Do you understand why ?
Simply because True Geology put all those religious gurus out of
balance since it demonstrates the folly of their dogmas ... the one
underlying the present fraudulent Geology ! Like Earth born on present
orbit and going there till the end of time, and also the evident dogma
of matter seen by the religious Dude as the foundation of their juicy
business ....
Quote
See, we the Rabbids, Mollards / Ayatollards & Preests care about the
Spiritual, the Spiritual is our reserved hunting ground !
Unquote
In true Geology there is no border between the Material & the
Spiritual, just a continuum relative to the Local gradient of energy
determining the type of matter possible there on that Cosmic Density
Atmosphere !
Poor Steward, he did not make it to the end of the year .... do you
feel a bit guilty Don ?
Just a bit, ....Teasing Nicolas there about twenty dollars for the
cost of his education, when there was Stuart refusing the lives of
300,000 people just for not subscribing to the price of a cork bobbing
about on the ocean. (On Boxing Day too... )
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/re/memory.html
No such thing as a Free Lunch? Says Stu, "..All you have to do is
subscribe to the Gift that keeps on Giving, and not only lunch is
free, but breakfast and dinner as well."
I hope Nicolas is not thinking of walking on the beach, 'cos I'll bet
if he's towey about $20 bucks then he won't be a fully paid-up member
of 'The cork'....
Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer
Founder of the True Geology
~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One never Forgiven ~
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23 Dec 2007 05:36:37 PM |
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don findlay wrote:
Stuart leads the flock in his concepts of Plate Tectonics, which are
still set in the year of his graduation (circa 54BC) (Bloody caveman)
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Improving the teaching of plate tectonics: teacher education by means
of a scientific approach that deals with teacher misconceptions
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A series of interactive workshops is being offered as an INSET
programme (In-Service Education and Training) to schools by the Earth
Science Education Unit at Keele University in order to support
teaching of plate tectonics. Plate tectonics and the structure of the
Earth were chosen for the following reasons:
* these topics are in the National Curriculum for Science at Key
Stage (KS) 4 (14 - 16 year olds) and so are part of all science
examinations syllabuses for 16 year olds;
* since plate tectonics is also part of the National Curriculum
for Geography at KS3 (11-14 year olds), science teachers find it
difficult to develop, at KS4 level, the understanding that pupils
bring from Geography;
* the Earth science background of the majority of teachers that
teach plate tectonics is very poor;
* as a result, they hold a variety of misconceptions;
* in some areas they exhibit a **MAJOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE AND
UNDERSTANDING**
* errors and oversimplifications on these topics in science
syllabuses, examinations and textbooks exacerbate these problems.
http://goodpractice.gees.ac.uk/cgi-bin/searchspec.pl?terms=159
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Joke over. But what is not a joke is how the shifting sands of Plate
Tectonic, shuffled by the likes of Stu and that good looking
Zabaglioni fellow at Harvard (or is it Yale), who took his picture
down from the web within twenty four hours of getting a mention, have
left teachers all over the world all screwed up and in need of
remedial training. This is the *real* consequence of Plate
Tectonics, ..muddying the waters and dirtying the slates. And then
their students have the cheek to come on this newsgroup thinking they
know stuff - and argue the toss. ('Cept Jo, ..she never argues about
anything except walking sticks and pencil sharpeners..)
(Bunch of bloody drop-out tossers.)
And so the victims (teachers) are getting blamed. Well, ...we'd
better take a pot shot at the likes of this guy because it's all this
bloody rubbish about convection and subduction that's the cause:-
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"..I am interested in the structure, dynamics and evolution of Earth
and other terrestrial bodies, particularly as related to convective
processes in the mantle, and lithospheric dynamics. My approach
emphasizes numerical simulation, using state-of-the-art numerical
methods and high performance (massively-parallel + Beowulf)
supercomputers to obtain more realistic, three-dimensional numerical
models of dynamical processes than previously possible."
http://www.ess.ucla.edu/faculty/tackley/
I see John Hernlund gets a mention too (down the bottom; ...not the
top)
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Rubber numbers in - Rubber rubbish out. This is the source of the
rubbish that's directed at our teaching institutions and responsible
for the self-contradictory garbage talked about the crust pushing the
mantle down, .. about slab-pull and ridge push, ...about the
subducting slab driving Plate Tectonics, and generally causing the
confusion in the syllabuses that teachers have to put up with.
http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/tackley00selfconsistent.html
Talk about a load of wank by a bunch of tossers, ..because this is
what Plate Tectonics today is based on. The only geological word in
the whole lot is 'mantle'
The only people fooled is themselves. Can you imagine what this lot
will do if the whisper gets out, that the Earth's spin, and not
convection has to do with the Earth's deformation?
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/
" Plate tectonics was once regarded as passive motion of plates on top
of mantle convection cells but it now appears that continents and
plate tectonics organize the flow in the mantle." In other words,
"Once it was this way and now it is that way". What's a poor teacher
supposed to do? How is he supposed to mark an examination paper when
the student writes, "These dickheads want to get their act
together." (Top marks for linguistic accuracy, in my book.)
What sort of a gravy train are these guys on? And were do we get
mention in all of this of the primary architecture of the EArth's
crust being rotational ("Toloidal/ poroidal" ? - Nope!) And don't
they deserve sledging for the irrelevant crap, simulated or no,
they're churning out? Where *IS* the consensus to be found then, with
all this 'this-way that-way' 'pull-push' nonsense.
What happened to geology? No wonder geology departments are closing
down and it's either not taught at all any more, or taught as an
appendage to geography, when it's headed up by this ***** - a gravy
train for an elite few. Meanwhile the mining industry is in dire
straits, ... not being able to get people to drive it.
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