Science > Physics > Bad speling: Making your alternative scientific career
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02 Feb 2004 03:50:38 AM |
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Bad speling: Making your alternative scientific career |
Folks,
Why is it that people with the most grandiose ideas on these NGs (this
is the first and last time I crosspost) can't spell for toffee?
I mean, who is going to take any notice of someone claiming to
disprove E=Mc^2 when they can't spell "World Exclusive" correctly?
In the future, anyone who can't spell the damn title correctly should
be immediately ignored. There should be a "Zero Tolerance Approach to
Spelling and Grammar" on these NGs.
Pompously yours
TP
PS. Yes I deliberately misspelled a word in the title. Its called
irony. Look it up in the fucking dictionary.
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| User: "Michael Varney" |
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| Title: Re: Bad speling: Making your alternative scientific career |
02 Feb 2004 11:05:24 AM |
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"Titan Point" <titanpoint@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Folks,
Why is it that people with the most grandiose ideas on these NGs (this
is the first and last time I crosspost) can't spell for toffee?
I mean, who is going to take any notice of someone claiming to
disprove E=Mc^2 when they can't spell "World Exclusive" correctly?
In the future, anyone who can't spell the damn title correctly should
be immediately ignored. There should be a "Zero Tolerance Approach to
Spelling and Grammar" on these NGs.
Pompously yours
TP
PS. Yes I deliberately misspelled a word in the title. Its called
irony. Look it up in the fucking dictionary.
Since there is a statistical chance that anyone could misspell the title,
some posts are bound to be canned in your filter. However, there are a few
here, Like PMB, who simply cannot spell or be bothered to use a spell
checker to save their lives. It should be noted that their physics ideas
are usually commensurate with their spelling. [[Spell check found 1 errors
in that sentence, in the word spelling! (reference irony!)]]
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| User: "Pmb" |
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| Title: Re: Bad speling: Making your alternative scientific career |
02 Feb 2004 04:10:42 AM |
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"Titan Point" <titanpoint@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Folks,
Why is it that people with the most grandiose ideas on these NGs (this
is the first and last time I crosspost) can't spell for toffee?
I don't know. Why do you think there is a 1-to-1 relationship between being
skilled in physics and remembering how certain words are spelled?
Seems to me that there are two possible reasons - (1) dyslexia/poor memory
etc and (2) poor education.
I mean, who is going to take any notice of someone claiming to
disprove E=Mc^2 when they can't spell "World Exclusive" correctly?
All the better for you then. Find the people who don't spell in the way that
you like and killfile them. It would be more productive than whining about
them like this. In fact this place would be much better if people used their
killfile more. In this case you seem like a good candidate for my own
killfile. Later mr. pompous.
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| User: "Mu-Pi" |
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| Title: Re: Bad speling: Making your alternative scientific career |
02 Feb 2004 11:09:19 AM |
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"Pmb" <peter.brown46NOSPAM@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Titan Point" <titanpoint@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Folks,
Why is it that people with the most grandiose ideas on these NGs (this
is the first and last time I crosspost) can't spell for toffee?
I don't know.
Usually, "I don't know" would be a statement of an intelligent man. In your
case it is simply the irreversible truth.
Why do you think there is a 1-to-1 relationship between being
skilled in physics and remembering how certain words are spelled?
You have shown repeatedly that this is the case.
Seems to me that there are two possible reasons - (1) dyslexia/poor memory
Dyslexia can cause this trouble, and I guess poor memory is a reason for
forgetting how to use a spell checker.
Are those your excuses?
etc and (2) poor education.
Is that you excuse as well, Mr. BS in physics?
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| User: "Titan Point" |
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| Title: Re: Bad speling: Making your alternative scientific career |
02 Feb 2004 09:21:49 AM |
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"Pmb" <peter.brown46NOSPAM@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<CmpTb.11099$KV5.10358@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>...
"Titan Point" <titanpoint@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Folks,
Why is it that people with the most grandiose ideas on these NGs (this
is the first and last time I crosspost) can't spell for toffee?
I don't know. Why do you think there is a 1-to-1 relationship between being
skilled in physics and remembering how certain words are spelled?
Seems to me that there are two possible reasons - (1) dyslexia/poor memory
etc and (2) poor education.
I mean, who is going to take any notice of someone claiming to
disprove E=Mc^2 when they can't spell "World Exclusive" correctly?
All the better for you then. Find the people who don't spell in the way that
you like and killfile them. It would be more productive than whining about
them like this.
Actually its more fun to find out the reasons why people reply to
trolls who claim to overturn one of Einstein's most scientifically
robust equations, yet can't spell or type grammatical sentences.
In fact this place would be much better if people used their
killfile more. In this case you seem like a good candidate for my own
killfile. Later mr. pompous.
Oooh I'm all scared. pmb might killfile me.
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| User: "Bilge" |
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| Title: Re: Bad speling: Making your alternative scientific career |
02 Feb 2004 04:25:37 PM |
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Titan Point:
Oooh I'm all scared. pmb might killfile me.
How would you know? He killfiled both mike varney and me, but
you can see how that didn't translate into anything that would
give it away from just reading the newsgroup. Had he not told me
that I'd been killfiled a long time ago, I'd have never known.
I just assumed otherwise, since I keep getting responses. What if
he didn't tell you?
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| User: "Gauge" |
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02 Feb 2004 02:52:10 PM |
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(Titan Point) wrote
Actually its more fun to find out the reasons why people reply to
trolls who claim to overturn one of Einstein's most scientifically
robust equations, yet can't spell or type grammatical sentences.
Tell you what. Tell us why you spelled the following words wrong
From thread - "This newsgroup is very unfriendly"
Date: 2004-02-02 02:09:30 PST
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"I am always willing (as I am sure most scientists are) to consider an
alterntive view of the world"
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Nope. Its spelled "alternative"
From thread - "How industry hijacked 'sound science'"
Date: 2004-01-30 01:00:59 PST
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"Any resemblence between Rachel Carson and a scientific researcher is
purely an act of delusional schizophrenia"
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Nope. Its spelled "resemblance"
So wiseass? Why did you spell those wrong?
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| User: "Mu-Pi" |
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| Title: Re: Bad speling: Making your alternative scientific career |
02 Feb 2004 03:41:20 PM |
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"Gauge" <gauge5@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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titanpoint@yahoo.com (Titan Point) wrote
Actually its more fun to find out the reasons why people reply to
trolls who claim to overturn one of Einstein's most scientifically
robust equations, yet can't spell or type grammatical sentences.
Tell you what. Tell us why you spelled the following words wrong
From thread - "This newsgroup is very unfriendly"
Date: 2004-02-02 02:09:30 PST
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"I am always willing (as I am sure most scientists are) to consider an
alterntive view of the world"
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Nope. Its spelled "alternative"
From thread - "How industry hijacked 'sound science'"
Date: 2004-01-30 01:00:59 PST
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"Any resemblence between Rachel Carson and a scientific researcher is
purely an act of delusional schizophrenia"
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Nope. Its spelled "resemblance"
So wiseass? Why did you spell those wrong?
Hey Brown, I make out your spelling errors to average at least 3-4 per post.
We all make spelling errors, but you do not even try to correct yours.
Hell, it took you several months to correct spelling error I pointed out in
your "peir reviewed" arxiv submission. LOL!
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| User: "Dave Langers" |
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02 Feb 2004 05:23:35 AM |
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Seems to me that there are two possible reasons - (1) dyslexia/poor memory
etc and (2) poor education.
And how about (3) non-native speakers...?
(And I'm not even French) ;-)
--
M.vr.gr.
Dave
("d-dot-langers-at-wxs-dot-nl")
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| User: "Cesar Sirvent" |
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02 Feb 2004 08:10:59 AM |
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"Dave Langers" <spam.messages@annoy.us> escribió en el mensaje
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Seems to me that there are two possible reasons - (1) dyslexia/poor
memory
etc and (2) poor education.
And how about (3) non-native speakers...?
(And I'm not even French) ;-)
That's my case.
--
M.vr.gr.
Dave
("d-dot-langers-at-wxs-dot-nl")
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| User: "Paul B. Andersen" |
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| Title: Re: Bad speling: Making your alternative scientific career |
02 Feb 2004 01:05:40 PM |
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"Cesar Sirvent" <8UMUCSXY@SPAxMterrMAPSa.esSPAxM> skrev i melding news:TTsTb.3082574$uj6.8133262@telenews.teleline.es...
"Dave Langers" <spam.messages@annoy.us> escribió en el mensaje
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Seems to me that there are two possible reasons - (1) dyslexia/poor
memory
etc and (2) poor education.
And how about (3) non-native speakers...?
(And I'm not even French) ;-)
That's my case.
I am not even French too. :-)
Paul
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| User: "Dirk Van de moortel" |
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02 Feb 2004 01:13:34 PM |
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"Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@hia.no> wrote in message news:bvm72e$711$1@dolly.uninett.no...
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"Dave Langers" <spam.messages@annoy.us> escribió en el mensaje
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Seems to me that there are two possible reasons - (1) dyslexia/poor
memory
etc and (2) poor education.
And how about (3) non-native speakers...?
(And I'm not even French) ;-)
That's my case.
I am not even French too. :-)
Moi non plus :-)
But I love it:
http://www.elyrics.net/go/f/Frank_Zappa/In_France/
Dirk Vdm
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| User: "Androcles" |
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02 Feb 2004 01:54:49 PM |
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"Cesar Sirvent" <8UMUCSXY@SPAxMterrMAPSa.esSPAxM> wrote in message
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"Dave Langers" <spam.messages@annoy.us> escribió en el mensaje
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Seems to me that there are two possible reasons - (1) dyslexia/poor
memory
etc and (2) poor education.
And how about (3) non-native speakers...?
(And I'm not even French) ;-)
That's my case.
All the more reason to run a spell checker, anencephalytic non-native.
Androcles
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| User: "Cesar Sirvent" |
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02 Feb 2004 02:09:40 PM |
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"Androcles" <jp006f9750@antispamblueyonder.co.uk> escribió en el mensaje
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"Cesar Sirvent" <8UMUCSXY@SPAxMterrMAPSa.esSPAxM> wrote in message
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"Dave Langers" <spam.messages@annoy.us> escribió en el mensaje
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Seems to me that there are two possible reasons - (1) dyslexia/poor
memory
etc and (2) poor education.
And how about (3) non-native speakers...?
(And I'm not even French) ;-)
That's my case.
All the more reason to run a spell checker, anencephalytic non-native.
Androcles
At least I understand the language of maths.
A mathematical speller for you would surely crash due to exhaustion.
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| User: "Androcles" |
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03 Feb 2004 04:15:47 AM |
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"Cesar Sirvent" <8UMUCSXY@SPAxMterrMAPSa.esSPAxM> wrote in message
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"Androcles" <jp006f9750@antispamblueyonder.co.uk> escribió en el mensaje
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"Cesar Sirvent" <8UMUCSXY@SPAxMterrMAPSa.esSPAxM> wrote in message
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"Dave Langers" <spam.messages@annoy.us> escribió en el mensaje
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Seems to me that there are two possible reasons - (1)
dyslexia/poor
memory
etc and (2) poor education.
And how about (3) non-native speakers...?
(And I'm not even French) ;-)
That's my case.
All the more reason to run a spell checker, anencephalytic non-native.
Androcles
At least I understand the language of maths.
If you did, you'd realize that a postulate cannot be changed after it has
already been used or the conclusions will be nonsense. To prove that you do
not understand math, find error in this. But you'll ignore it as usual and
continue to bluster without being able to back up your claim.
Einstein defines x' = x-vt
Einstein takes x' to be infinitessimally small.
The Lorentz transforms, as given in "On the Electrodynamics of Moving
Bodies", are
tau = (t-vx/c^2) /sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
xi = (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
eta = y,
zeta = z.
Any child learning algebra will agree that if
x' = x-vt
then
x = x' +vt,
When x' is infinitessimally small,
x' = 0+h as h tends to zero, hence,
x = h + vt, and v = dx/dt
If we substitute for x its value, then
xi = (h + vt-vt)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
= h/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
= 0 in the limit of h tending to zero.
So, in time t, the displacement of x from the origin of the
'stationary' frame is nearly nothing = 0, hence
v = 0 for all v, t > 0, and not dx/dt, a contradiction and proof.
Applying our value we have found for v,
tau = (t - 0.x/c2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
= t.
Conclusion:
Einstein's version of the Lorentz transforms actually are:
xi = 0,
tau = t.
Quod Erat Demonstrandum.
A mathematical speller for you would surely crash due to exhaustion.
Pathetic comment from a moron that can only ignore a simple proof he doesn't
like. Sneer all you want to, imbecile. Anyone can see how stupid you appear
(except you, that is).
Androcles
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| User: "Paul B. Andersen" |
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03 Feb 2004 02:38:24 AM |
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"Dave Langers" <spam.messages@annoy.us> escribió en el mensaje
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Seems to me that there are two possible reasons - (1) dyslexia/poor
memory
etc and (2) poor education.
And how about (3) non-native speakers...?
(And I'm not even French) ;-)
That's my case.
All the more reason to run a spell checker, anencephalytic non-native.
Androcles
Wee does. Bat spill shockers does nut reed mines.
(Thus hole thong want true.)
Paul
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| User: "Androcles" |
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03 Feb 2004 04:39:21 AM |
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"Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@hia.no> wrote in message
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Seems to me that there are two possible reasons - (1)
dyslexia/poor
memory
etc and (2) poor education.
And how about (3) non-native speakers...?
(And I'm not even French) ;-)
That's my case.
All the more reason to run a spell checker, anencephalytic non-native.
Androcles
Wee does. Bat spill shockers does nut reed mines.
(Thus hole thong want true.)
Paul
Honestly Paul, your spelling and grammar is sometimes just a little off and
quite forgivable because English is not your primary language, and
occasionally so is mine even though it is. But there really is no excuse for
Sirvent writing
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Read carefully my rebuttal. The VAV you refer to is not what is used. It
is an algebraic
'adition'
or
'substraction'
of velocities, with no physical meaning.
unquote
which a spell checker would have caught.
As to the content,
"The VAV you refer to is not what is used" can only mean that c-v is not
used in
1/2[tau(0,0,0,t)+tau(0,0,0,t+x'/(c-v)+x'/(c+v))] = tau(x',0,0,t+x'/(c-v))
Maybe I should be taking the same drugs as the rest of you relativists so
that I can understand what isn't used, isn't there and has no meaning.
I've read it as carefully as I can, but being sober, I can make neither head
nor tail of it.
Androcles
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| User: "Cesar Sirvent" |
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03 Feb 2004 12:22:05 PM |
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Seems to me that there are two possible reasons - (1)
dyslexia/poor
memory
etc and (2) poor education.
And how about (3) non-native speakers...?
(And I'm not even French) ;-)
That's my case.
All the more reason to run a spell checker, anencephalytic non-native.
Androcles
Wee does. Bat spill shockers does nut reed mines.
(Thus hole thong want true.)
Paul
Honestly Paul, your spelling and grammar is sometimes just a little off and
quite forgivable because English is not your primary language, and
occasionally so is mine even though it is. But there really is no excuse for
Sirvent writing
quote
Read carefully my rebuttal. The VAV you refer to is not what is used. It
is an algebraic
'adition'
or
'substraction'
of velocities, with no physical meaning.
unquote
which a spell checker would have caught.
As to the content,
"The VAV you refer to is not what is used" can only mean that c-v is not
used in
1/2[tau(0,0,0,t)+tau(0,0,0,t+x'/(c-v)+x'/(c+v))] = tau(x',0,0,t+x'/(c-v))
Maybe I should be taking the same drugs as the rest of you relativists so
that I can understand what isn't used, isn't there and has no meaning.
I've read it as carefully as I can, but being sober, I can make neither head
nor tail of it.
Androcles
I will repeat it very s-l-o-w-l-y so you can understand: c-v is not
the physical speed of an object, but the rate of variation of relative
distance among two objects (definition given by Dirk). The
relativistic transformation of velocities does ONLY apply to PHYSICAL
speeds and not to variation of relative distances among two objects.
Thus, your counter-argument is just trash.
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| User: "Androcles" |
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03 Feb 2004 04:07:47 PM |
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"Cesar Sirvent" <info@thequantummachine.com> wrote in message
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Seems to me that there are two possible reasons - (1)
dyslexia/poor
memory
etc and (2) poor education.
And how about (3) non-native speakers...?
(And I'm not even French) ;-)
That's my case.
All the more reason to run a spell checker, anencephalytic
non-native.
Androcles
Wee does. Bat spill shockers does nut reed mines.
(Thus hole thong want true.)
Paul
Honestly Paul, your spelling and grammar is sometimes just a little off
and
quite forgivable because English is not your primary language, and
occasionally so is mine even though it is. But there really is no excuse
for
Sirvent writing
quote
Read carefully my rebuttal. The VAV you refer to is not what is used. It
is an algebraic
'adition'
or
'substraction'
of velocities, with no physical meaning.
unquote
which a spell checker would have caught.
As to the content,
"The VAV you refer to is not what is used" can only mean that c-v is not
used in
1/2[tau(0,0,0,t)+tau(0,0,0,t+x'/(c-v)+x'/(c+v))] =
tau(x',0,0,t+x'/(c-v))
Maybe I should be taking the same drugs as the rest of you relativists
so
that I can understand what isn't used, isn't there and has no meaning.
I've read it as carefully as I can, but being sober, I can make neither
head
nor tail of it.
Androcles
I will repeat it very s-l-o-w-l-y so you can understand: c-v is not
the physical speed of an object, but the rate of variation of relative
distance among two objects (definition given by Dirk). The
relativistic transformation of velocities does ONLY apply to PHYSICAL
speeds and not to variation of relative distances among two objects.
Thus, your counter-argument is just trash.
Ok, so a photon isn't an object, so I'll call it a physical entity, since it
certainly isn't a chemical one.
Here I am, performing Einstein's 'experiment' with my car. Because it is an
experiment, we imagine there is no air. On the back of the car I'm following
there are some of those strange little red entities called reflectors.
I shine my headlights on them, and the entity that isn't an object hits then
and bounces back so that I can see the car in front. That is why we call
them reflectors.
Now, it takes time t1 = x/c for my light to reach the reflector, and time t2
= -x/-c to return, so I write an equation
1/2(t1+t2) = t1
But you are coming down the road in the opposite direction and pass me.
Now, give me an equation, very s-l-o-w-l-y, that describes what YOU see
happening to my headlights and explain it very carefully. Do not use the tip
of the ray as an object.
You are passing by me at v. You may assume all of the following can apply.
1) I am stuck in a traffic jam and have my brakes applied.
2) I am travelling relative to the road at v, and you are stuck in a traffic
jam.
3) Neither of us are stuck in a traffic jam.
4) You are going in the same direction as me, but passing,
5) I am passing you, going in the same direction
6) We are going in opposite directions and we are both stuk in traffic jams.
Choose your postulate, now, and stand by it. Do not attempt to change it.
Tell me what the speed of light is relative to the road, relative to you,
and relative to me. Use equations to prove each, very s-l-o-w-l-y.
At the end of this exercise I shall have a few choice words for you, and it
may be that I shall declare you a genius.... but I doubt that very much.
I will give you the opportunity to educate me.
ok... ready, steady....GO!
Androcles
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| User: "Dirk Van de moortel" |
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03 Feb 2004 04:53:38 PM |
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"Androcles" <jp006f9750@antispamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:RYUTb.1240$KR3.664@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
"Cesar Sirvent" <info@thequantummachine.com> wrote in message
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"Androcles" <jp006f9750@antispamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:<dTKTb.3067$Ue2.3047@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>...
[snip]
Maybe I should be taking the same drugs as the rest of you relativists
so
that I can understand what isn't used, isn't there and has no meaning.
I've read it as carefully as I can, but being sober, I can make neither
hear nor tail of it.
Androcles
I will repeat it very s-l-o-w-l-y so you can understand: c-v is not
the physical speed of an object, but the rate of variation of relative
distance among two objects (definition given by Dirk).
almost :-)
The
relativistic transformation of velocities does ONLY apply to PHYSICAL
speeds and not to variation of relative distances among two objects.
It is more subtle than that, specially for a bigot like Androcles:
http://groups.google.com/groups?&as_umsgid=401a53d6@usenet01.boi.hp.com
Thus, your counter-argument is just trash.
Ok, so a photon isn't an object
See? Androcles did not understand, but then, he never will.
[Androcles' delirium snipped]
Dirk Vdm
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| User: "Cesar Sirvent" |
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04 Feb 2004 01:48:34 AM |
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"Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoortel@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<SDVTb.955$rG5.93276@phobos.telenet-ops.be>...
"Androcles" <jp006f9750@antispamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:RYUTb.1240$KR3.664@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
"Cesar Sirvent" <info@thequantummachine.com> wrote in message
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"Androcles" <jp006f9750@antispamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:<dTKTb.3067$Ue2.3047@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>...
[snip]
Maybe I should be taking the same drugs as the rest of you relativists
so
that I can understand what isn't used, isn't there and has no meaning.
I've read it as carefully as I can, but being sober, I can make neither
hear nor tail of it.
Androcles
I will repeat it very s-l-o-w-l-y so you can understand: c-v is not
the physical speed of an object, but the rate of variation of relative
distance among two objects (definition given by Dirk).
almost :-)
Well, I dropped the part of "for a system which sees the lightspeed to
be c", as it is *basically* the second postulate.
The
relativistic transformation of velocities does ONLY apply to PHYSICAL
speeds and not to variation of relative distances among two objects.
It is more subtle than that, specially for a bigot like Androcles:
http://groups.google.com/groups?&as_umsgid=401a53d6@usenet01.boi.hp.com
For subtle points, I would prefer my comment that it is AS IF we would
compose the velocities in a Galilean way. Conceptually you found it to
be a difficult issue. For me it is trivial, though in the reverse, you
said that the reciprocality of v (that observer S sees S' moving at S
and, THEREFORE, S' sees S moving with -v) in the 1905 paper was
trivial, when I did not see it as trivial - nor Einstein. Pauli made
the mistake of considering it trivial too.
Thus, your counter-argument is just trash.
Ok, so a photon isn't an object
See? Androcles did not understand, but then, he never will.
[Androcles' delirium snipped]
Dirk Vdm
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| User: "Mu-Pi" |
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| Title: Re: Bad speling: Making your alternative scientific career |
02 Feb 2004 11:09:53 AM |
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"Cesar Sirvent" <8UMUCSXY@SPAxMterrMAPSa.esSPAxM> wrote in message
news:TTsTb.3082574$uj6.8133262@telenews.teleline.es...
"Dave Langers" <spam.messages@annoy.us> escribió en el mensaje
news:bvlbvr$t728n$1@ID-86745.news.uni-berlin.de...
Seems to me that there are two possible reasons - (1) dyslexia/poor
memory
etc and (2) poor education.
And how about (3) non-native speakers...?
(And I'm not even French) ;-)
That's my case.
You poor frog.
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| User: "Titan Point" |
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02 Feb 2004 09:22:59 AM |
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Dave Langers <spam.messages@annoy.us> wrote in message news:<bvlbvr$t728n$1@ID-86745.news.uni-berlin.de>...
Seems to me that there are two possible reasons - (1) dyslexia/poor memory
etc and (2) poor education.
And how about (3) non-native speakers...?
(And I'm not even French) ;-)
The problem is definitely between chair and keyboard, that's for sure.
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| User: "scojo" |
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| Title: Re: Bad speling: Making your alternative scientific career |
02 Feb 2004 08:19:22 AM |
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(Titan Point) wrote in message news:<7c642197.0402020150.2151e465@posting.google.com>...
Folks,
Why is it that people with the most grandiose ideas on these NGs (this
is the first and last time I crosspost) can't spell for toffee?
I mean, who is going to take any notice of someone claiming to
disprove E=Mc^2 when they can't spell "World Exclusive" correctly?
In the future, anyone who can't spell the damn title correctly should
be immediately ignored. There should be a "Zero Tolerance Approach to
Spelling and Grammar" on these NGs.
Pompously yours
TP
PS. Yes I deliberately misspelled a word in the title. Its called
irony. Look it up in the fucking dictionary.
Yeah but you fail to realize there's a difference between bad spelling and a typo.
By the way, your grammar isn't so hot. You missed out the ' in: "its called irony."
:)
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| User: "Mu-Pi" |
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| Title: Re: Bad speling: Making your alternative scientific career |
02 Feb 2004 11:14:11 AM |
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"scojo" <binarycode@onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
news:9982f94e.0402020619.3feb55cc@posting.google.com...
titanpoint@yahoo.com (Titan Point) wrote in message
news:<7c642197.0402020150.2151e465@posting.google.com>...
Folks,
Why is it that people with the most grandiose ideas on these NGs (this
is the first and last time I crosspost) can't spell for toffee?
I mean, who is going to take any notice of someone claiming to
disprove E=Mc^2 when they can't spell "World Exclusive" correctly?
In the future, anyone who can't spell the damn title correctly should
be immediately ignored. There should be a "Zero Tolerance Approach to
Spelling and Grammar" on these NGs.
Pompously yours
TP
PS. Yes I deliberately misspelled a word in the title. Its called
irony. Look it up in the fucking dictionary.
Yeah but you fail to realize there's a difference between bad spelling and
a typo.
Yes... there is. However, people like Brown constantly misspell certain
words, despite correction from other posters.
You would think that they could learn to use a spell checker.
By the way, your grammar isn't so hot. You missed out the ' in: "its
called irony."
Perhaps it was double irony? :-)
:)
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| User: "Jon Hurwitz" |
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| Title: Re: Bad speling: Making your alternative scientific career |
02 Feb 2004 07:25:57 PM |
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"Mu-Pi" <Mu-Pi@greekletter.net> wrote in message
news:MzvTb.26$Bi2.64144@news.uswest.net...
"scojo" <binarycode@onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
news:9982f94e.0402020619.3feb55cc@posting.google.com...
titanpoint@yahoo.com (Titan Point) wrote in message
news:<7c642197.0402020150.2151e465@posting.google.com>...
Folks,
Why is it that people with the most grandiose ideas on these NGs (this
is the first and last time I crosspost) can't spell for toffee?
I mean, who is going to take any notice of someone claiming to
disprove E=Mc^2 when they can't spell "World Exclusive" correctly?
In the future, anyone who can't spell the damn title correctly should
be immediately ignored. There should be a "Zero Tolerance Approach to
Spelling and Grammar" on these NGs.
Pompously yours
TP
PS. Yes I deliberately misspelled a word in the title. Its called
irony. Look it up in the fucking dictionary.
Yeah but you fail to realize there's a difference between bad spelling
and
a typo.
Yes... there is. However, people like Brown constantly misspell certain
words, despite correction from other posters.
You would think that they could learn to use a spell checker.
By the way, your grammar isn't so hot. You missed out the ' in: "its
called irony."
Perhaps it was double irony? :-)
No. Titan called for a zero tolerance approach to spelling and grammar, not
bad spelling or bad grammar. This means no spelling, good or bad, should
be tolerated. I can't agree with this, but any semblence of coherent
grammar must be stamped out. wyth ulysees jabberwokkie r gide pnctution
thngs passed shal bee sentences tugethir
:)
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| User: "Titan Point" |
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| Title: Re: Bad speling: Making your alternative scientific career |
03 Feb 2004 07:48:30 AM |
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(scojo) wrote in message news:<9982f94e.0402020619.3feb55cc@posting.google.com>...
titanpoint@yahoo.com (Titan Point) wrote in message news:<7c642197.0402020150.2151e465@posting.google.com>...
Folks,
Why is it that people with the most grandiose ideas on these NGs (this
is the first and last time I crosspost) can't spell for toffee?
I mean, who is going to take any notice of someone claiming to
disprove E=Mc^2 when they can't spell "World Exclusive" correctly?
In the future, anyone who can't spell the damn title correctly should
be immediately ignored. There should be a "Zero Tolerance Approach to
Spelling and Grammar" on these NGs.
Pompously yours
TP
PS. Yes I deliberately misspelled a word in the title. Its called
irony. Look it up in the fucking dictionary.
Yeah but you fail to realize there's a difference between bad spelling and a typo.
By the way, your grammar isn't so hot. You missed out the ' in: "its called irony."
:)
True. But I'm not the idiot claiming that Einstein is wrong because,
erm, Einstein is wrong and I'm right.
I did link the fact that grandiose propositions of the most
fantastical kind seem to be accompanied by bad spelling and worse
grammar.
If I DID have a theory that overturned Einstein, I'd make sure I typed
the fucking title correctly. That way the Nobel Prize Committee would
not reject my magnum opus because of my inability to type or use a
spell checker.
It's just a thought.
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| User: "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \dlzc\ N: dlzc1 D:cox" |
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02 Feb 2004 08:18:39 AM |
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Dear Titan Point:
"Titan Point" <titanpoint@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7c642197.0402020150.2151e465@posting.google.com...
Folks,
Why is it that people with the most grandiose ideas on these NGs (this
is the first and last time I crosspost) can't spell for toffee?
Because some of them are in a hurry.
I mean, who is going to take any notice of someone claiming to
disprove E=Mc^2 when they can't spell "World Exclusive" correctly?
An English teacher might...
In the future, anyone who can't spell the damn title correctly should
be immediately ignored.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
There should be a "Zero Tolerance Approach to
Spelling and Grammar" on these NGs.
Pompously yours
TP
PS. Yes I deliberately misspelled a word in the title. Its called
irony. Look it up in the fucking dictionary.
Feel better now?
David A. Smith
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| User: "Michael Varney" |
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| Title: Re: Bad speling: Making your alternative scientific career |
02 Feb 2004 11:12:13 AM |
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"N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)" <N: dlzc1 D:cox T:net@nospam.com> wrote in
message news:6%sTb.16538$tP1.13311@fed1read07...
Dear Titan Point:
"Titan Point" <titanpoint@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7c642197.0402020150.2151e465@posting.google.com...
Folks,
Why is it that people with the most grandiose ideas on these NGs (this
is the first and last time I crosspost) can't spell for toffee?
Because some of them are in a hurry.
Time it takes to hit the spell checker, 1 second.
They should not post if they are in a hurry. Some of my more memorable
blunders were posted in a hurry.
I mean, who is going to take any notice of someone claiming to
disprove E=Mc^2 when they can't spell "World Exclusive" correctly?
An English teacher might...
In the future, anyone who can't spell the damn title correctly should
be immediately ignored.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
There should be a "Zero Tolerance Approach to
Spelling and Grammar" on these NGs.
Pompously yours
TP
PS. Yes I deliberately misspelled a word in the title. Its called
irony. Look it up in the fucking dictionary.
Feel better now?
David A. Smith
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| User: "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \dlzc\ N: dlzc1 D:cox" |
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02 Feb 2004 09:00:43 PM |
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Dear Michael Varney:
"Michael Varney" <varney@colorado_no_spam.edu> wrote in message
news:VxvTb.24$Bi2.63804@news.uswest.net...
"N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)" <N: dlzc1 D:cox T:net@nospam.com> wrote in
message news:6%sTb.16538$tP1.13311@fed1read07...
Dear Titan Point:
"Titan Point" <titanpoint@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7c642197.0402020150.2151e465@posting.google.com...
Folks,
Why is it that people with the most grandiose ideas on these NGs
(this
is the first and last time I crosspost) can't spell for toffee?
Because some of them are in a hurry.
Time it takes to hit the spell checker, 1 second.
They should not post if they are in a hurry. Some of my more memorable
blunders were posted in a hurry.
1) You are supposed to be breaking GR. ;>}
2) You are arguing from the strength of opportunity. You have a spell
checker. Others may/do not. I personally try to do all my own spell
checking, as Mr. Gates never seems to guess correctly what I meant.
Out.
David A. Smith
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| User: "Michael Varney" |
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| Title: Re: Bad speling: Making your alternative scientific career |
02 Feb 2004 10:21:23 PM |
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"N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)" <N: dlzc1 D:cox T:net@nospam.com> wrote in
message news:x9ETb.17435$tP1.1549@fed1read07...
Dear Michael Varney:
"Michael Varney" <varney@colorado_no_spam.edu> wrote in message
news:VxvTb.24$Bi2.63804@news.uswest.net...
"N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)" <N: dlzc1 D:cox T:net@nospam.com> wrote in
message news:6%sTb.16538$tP1.13311@fed1read07...
Dear Titan Point:
"Titan Point" <titanpoint@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7c642197.0402020150.2151e465@posting.google.com...
Folks,
Why is it that people with the most grandiose ideas on these NGs
(this
is the first and last time I crosspost) can't spell for toffee?
Because some of them are in a hurry.
Time it takes to hit the spell checker, 1 second.
They should not post if they are in a hurry. Some of my more memorable
blunders were posted in a hurry.
1) You are supposed to be breaking GR. ;>}
Perhaps I will... who knows.
2) You are arguing from the strength of opportunity. You have a spell
checker. Others may/do not.
There are dozens of free spell checkers available on the net, so that is not
an excuse.
I personally try to do all my own spell
checking, as Mr. Gates never seems to guess correctly what I meant.
:-)
Out.
David A. Smith
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