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Science > Physics |
| User: |
"CWatters" |
| Date: |
06 Oct 2005 02:47:03 AM |
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BBC Series "Space" |
The BBC has just finished broadcasting a series on the space race (V1 to the
moon landing). I found it very interesting but was disapointed that they
rushed the last phase - skipping from Apollo 8 to 11 for example - probably
because it's been covered before.
Anyone able to comment on the programs overall accuracy?
PS I'm not interested in hearing from cranks who think the landings were
fake.
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| User: "Androcles Androcles@ MyPlace.org" |
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| Title: Re: BBC Series "Space" |
06 Oct 2005 07:26:54 AM |
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"CWatters" <colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> wrote in message
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| The BBC has just finished broadcasting a series on the space race (V1
to the
| moon landing). I found it very interesting but was disapointed that
they
| rushed the last phase - skipping from Apollo 8 to 11 for example -
probably
| because it's been covered before.
|
| Anyone able to comment on the programs overall accuracy?
|
| PS I'm not interested in hearing from cranks who think the landings
were
| fake.
Apollo 9 and Apollo 10 were both uneventful Earth orbit experiments
of no great public interest to verify transfer from the command module
and the lunar module, plus undocking and docking , hence the skip.
Although I didn't see last night's show, I watched the BBC coverage
of the actual events (James Burke of "Tomorrow's World")
live shortly thereafter on the news at the time.
Trivia question :
Neil Armstrong stumbled on his rehearsed mini-speech.
"That's one small step for [a] man, one giant leap for mankind" -
Armstrong.
Did he say "a man" or was the "a" omitted?
Androcles.
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| User: "CWatters" |
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| Title: Re: BBC Series "Space" |
06 Oct 2005 08:33:07 AM |
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"Androcles" <Androcles@ MyPlace.org> wrote in message
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Apollo 9 and Apollo 10 were both uneventful Earth orbit experiments
of no great public interest to verify transfer from the command module
and the lunar module, plus undocking and docking , hence the skip.
Although I didn't see last night's show, I watched the BBC coverage
of the actual events (James Burke of "Tomorrow's World")
live shortly thereafter on the news at the time.
So did I although I was only 10 when Apollo 11 landed. I remember it all
very well. I would rush home from school to update my wall chart with how
far they had got on the way to the moon.
My father worked at the BBC on some of the live broadcasts. I recall he
mentioned the first transmissions arriving with the picture upside down
which caused some panic - people rushing around to try and work out where
the problem was and how to fix it. I can't recall the cause. Anyone?
It was 20+ years before I found out what "Master Alarm" and "60 seconds"
meant.
Trivia question :
Neil Armstrong stumbled on his rehearsed mini-speech.
"That's one small step for [a] man, one giant leap for mankind" -
Armstrong.
Did he say "a man" or was the "a" omitted?
I believe it was omitted - althought I don't think anyone noticed at the
time! I think everyone was worried he might sink in upto his waist in dust.
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| User: "Androcles Androcles@ MyPlace.org" |
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| Title: Re: BBC Series "Space" |
06 Oct 2005 10:14:50 AM |
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"CWatters" <colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> wrote in message
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| "Androcles" <Androcles@ MyPlace.org> wrote in message
| news:iK81f.70867$iW5.16258@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
| >
| > Apollo 9 and Apollo 10 were both uneventful Earth orbit experiments
| > of no great public interest to verify transfer from the command
module
| > and the lunar module, plus undocking and docking , hence the skip.
| > Although I didn't see last night's show, I watched the BBC coverage
| > of the actual events (James Burke of "Tomorrow's World")
| > live shortly thereafter on the news at the time.
|
| So did I although I was only 10 when Apollo 11 landed. I remember it
all
| very well. I would rush home from school to update my wall chart with
how
| far they had got on the way to the moon.
|
| My father worked at the BBC on some of the live broadcasts. I recall
he
| mentioned the first transmissions arriving with the picture upside
down
| which caused some panic - people rushing around to try and work out
where
| the problem was and how to fix it. I can't recall the cause. Anyone?
Dunno that one... fixing it would be easy with a framestore, though.
There were a lot of problems getting the US 525 line 60 Hz system across
the Atlantic to the old British 405 line 50 Hz and present European
625 line systems.
| It was 20+ years before I found out what "Master Alarm" and "60
seconds"
| meant.
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| > Trivia question :
| > Neil Armstrong stumbled on his rehearsed mini-speech.
| > "That's one small step for [a] man, one giant leap for mankind" -
| > Armstrong.
| > Did he say "a man" or was the "a" omitted?
|
| I believe it was omitted - althought I don't think anyone noticed at
the
| time! I think everyone was worried he might sink in upto his waist in
dust.
I noticed it! I continued listening for it on subsequent news broadcasts
to make sure I wasn't hearing things. I saw it printed in the paper, it
didn't tally up. Oddly enough, Frank Sinatra's recording of "My Way"
has a similar problem.
"For what is a man, what has he got?
If not himself, then he has *naught*.
To say the things he truly feels;
And not the words of one who kneels.
The record shows I took the blows -
And did it my way!"
Live on stage he sang:
"For what is a man, what has he got?
If not himself, then he has [not the right to choose]
To say the things he truly feels;
Cramming those extra words in wasn't acceptable for the public
to sing along with the recording, but there is no grammatical connection
between "naught" and a sentence starting with "To".
Androcles.
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| User: "Henry Lemington-Wholeflavors" |
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| Title: Re: BBC Series "Space" |
06 Oct 2005 08:53:04 AM |
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CWatters wrote:
"Androcles" <Androcles@ MyPlace.org> wrote in message
Trivia question :
Neil Armstrong stumbled on his rehearsed mini-speech.
"That's one small step for [a] man, one giant leap for mankind" -
Armstrong.
Did he say "a man" or was the "a" omitted?
I believe it was omitted - althought I don't think anyone noticed at the
time! I think everyone was worried he might sink in upto his waist in dust.
There was no gap between the "for" and "man" in which an "a" could
concievably have been said.
Nasa's "static" excuse was just a cover story. Armstrong simply
fluffled his prepared line.
In fact, Armstrong later admitted this.
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| User: "Androcles Androcles@ MyPlace.org" |
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| Title: Re: BBC Series "Space" |
06 Oct 2005 10:18:19 AM |
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"Henry Lemington-Wholeflavors" <cwocwocwo@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1128606784.037431.195830@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| CWatters wrote:
| > "Androcles" <Androcles@ MyPlace.org> wrote in message
| > > Trivia question :
| > > Neil Armstrong stumbled on his rehearsed mini-speech.
| > > "That's one small step for [a] man, one giant leap for mankind" -
| > > Armstrong.
| > > Did he say "a man" or was the "a" omitted?
| >
| > I believe it was omitted - althought I don't think anyone noticed at
the
| > time! I think everyone was worried he might sink in upto his waist
in dust.
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| There was no gap between the "for" and "man" in which an "a" could
| concievably have been said.
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| Nasa's "static" excuse was just a cover story. Armstrong simply
| fluffled his prepared line.
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| In fact, Armstrong later admitted this.
Yep.
NASA had the script prepared for press release before the landing, of
course,
and no time to amend it.
Androcles.
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| User: "CWatters" |
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| Title: Re: BBC Series "Space" |
06 Oct 2005 04:44:52 PM |
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"Androcles" <Androcles@ MyPlace.org> wrote in message
news:iK81f.70867$iW5.16258@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
Apollo 9 and Apollo 10 were both uneventful Earth orbit experiments
The thing is you didn't know it was going to be uneventful at the time. I
think that's what made it exciting.
If you have seen the greman film "The Boat" you may remember one long
section where nothing happens and the crew get bored - it's part of what
made it seem real.
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| User: "Androcles Androcles@ MyPlace.org" |
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| Title: Re: BBC Series "Space" |
06 Oct 2005 05:22:26 PM |
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"CWatters" <colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> wrote in message
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| "Androcles" <Androcles@ MyPlace.org> wrote in message
| news:iK81f.70867$iW5.16258@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
| > Apollo 9 and Apollo 10 were both uneventful Earth orbit experiments
|
| The thing is you didn't know it was going to be uneventful at the
time. I
| think that's what made it exciting.
True, and it was. But not today, after the event.
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| If you have seen the greman film "The Boat" you may remember one long
| section where nothing happens and the crew get bored - it's part of
what
| made it seem real.
Well ok, but the BBC doesn't want to lose its audience to the mundane.
Androcles.
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| User: "Mark Martin" |
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| Title: Re: BBC Series "Space" |
06 Oct 2005 09:02:04 AM |
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Androcles wrote:
Apollo 9 and Apollo 10 were both uneventful Earth orbit experiments
of no great public interest to verify transfer from the command module
and the lunar module, plus undocking and docking , hence the skip.
Apollo 10 was uneventful, but was on lunar orbit.
Trivia question :
Neil Armstrong stumbled on his rehearsed mini-speech.
"That's one small step for [a] man, one giant leap for mankind" -
Armstrong.
Did he say "a man" or was the "a" omitted?
There's general concensus that the "a" just never left Neil's mouth,
though surely by accident.
-Mark Martin
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| User: "Mahmoud In My Dinner Jacket" |
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| Title: Re: BBC Series "Space" |
06 Oct 2005 06:06:23 AM |
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CWatters wrote:
The BBC has just finished broadcasting a series on the space race (V1 to the
moon landing). I found it very interesting but was disapointed that they
rushed the last phase - skipping from Apollo 8 to 11 for example - probably
because it's been covered before.
Anyone able to comment on the programs overall accuracy?
PS I'm not interested in hearing from cranks who think the landings were
fake.
Well, tough titty, cos you might have to anyway!
Like medieval peasants gawping disbelievingly at the ruins of Roman
civilization.
Yeah, I thought the "series" was good fun. Didn't know the Soviet Moon
rocket blew to bits just after takeoff ... fortunately with no-one on
board ...
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