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"double d" |
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17 Jun 2005 10:19:48 AM |
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best mathematician movie of all time |
Mark loves movies about mathematicians, theoretical physicists, and
writers. They remind Mark about his halcyon days in graduate school.
What are people's Top 5 favorite movies about mathematicians and
theoretical physicists? Here are some of Mark's nominations, not in
any particular order:
1) Beautiful Mind
2) the movie about Einstein and Meg Ryan
3) Pi
4) the movie about space travel and Jodie Foster
Mark Demers, PhD
EquityValue Investments
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/equityvalue?hl=en
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| User: "Jon Slaughter" |
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17 Jun 2005 11:33:04 AM |
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"double d" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1119021588.641818.297350@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Mark loves movies about mathematicians, theoretical physicists, and
writers. They remind Mark about his halcyon days in graduate school.
What are people's Top 5 favorite movies about mathematicians and
theoretical physicists? Here are some of Mark's nominations, not in
any particular order:
1) Beautiful Mind
2) the movie about Einstein and Meg Ryan
3) Pi
4) the movie about space travel and Jodie Foster
Mark Demers, PhD
EquityValue Investments
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/equityvalue?hl=en
hmm... none of these movies are about mathematics ;/
In these movies mathematics plays no essential role.
The closest you will get are documentaries or tutorials/lessons.
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| User: "Minus XVII" |
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17 Jun 2005 10:22:00 PM |
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1) was propoganda for the Kyoto Protocol,
which has been online since Feb.12 (also,
for the "policy", see the 'WAND (Corp.) Weview'
of Fall 2000, which is on their site).
2) no comment.
3) utter crap, from what reviews I read.
4) is it not so, that *any* message can be found
in the infinite decimal expansion of any constant?
Jon Slaughter wrote:
1) Beautiful Mind
2) the movie about Einstein and Meg Ryan
3) Pi
4) the movie about space travel and Jodie Foster
In these movies mathematics plays no essential role.
--ils ducs d'Enron!
http://members.tripod.com/~american_almanac
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| User: "Rick Decker" |
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18 Jun 2005 03:14:04 PM |
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Minus XVII wrote:
1) was propoganda for the Kyoto Protocol,
which has been online since Feb.12 (also,
for the "policy", see the 'WAND (Corp.) Weview'
of Fall 2000, which is on their site).
2) no comment.
3) utter crap, from what reviews I read.
4) is it not so, that *any* message can be found
in the infinite decimal expansion of any constant?
The messages Rick extracts from the constant 1.0000... are
somewhat boring.
Regards,
Rick
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| User: "Minus XVII" |
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23 Jun 2005 02:43:45 PM |
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try it base pi, monsieur Decker. or pith,
the reciprocal of pi.
thus:
Dieudonne also wrote, Death to the trigon!... which he has taken back,
in the forward to a book of his that I saw, a few years ago.
he must have been one of the braincells of N.Bourbaki,
which seems to be the founding documentation for New Math
in the '60s.
Dieudonn=E9's address, but only in English translation. I've often
wondered about the original wording of his remark (in paragraph 100 of
the book), translated "Euclid must go!" Do you happen to have his exact
According to the following document, the french wording was "Euclide est
mort".
http://www.univ-lille1.fr/irem/publications/daubelcour/CHAPITRE4.pdf
This PDF discusses a french reform of the teaching of mathematics during =
the
seventies, which was a complete fiasco. If you can read french, I think i=
t's
worth reading that :-)
thus:
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o'compression; eh?
of course, if you threw a compression-ringed dome
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the ring were as much tensegrity as the rest of it.
ground is ground, as in electronics. well,
damp ground!
thus quoth:
These records do not disappear. Bush has none. Bush cannot provide even
the name of another soldier that he served with. Not a single soldier has
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| User: "Minus XVII" |
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17 Jun 2005 10:18:29 PM |
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Jon Slaughter wrote:
1) Beautiful Mind
2) the movie about Einstein and Meg Ryan
3) Pi
4) the movie about space travel and Jodie Foster
In these movies mathematics plays no essential role.
--ils ducs d'Enron!
http://members.tripod.com/~american_almanac
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| User: "Anthony Smales" |
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23 Jun 2005 05:00:16 PM |
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"double d" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1119021588.641818.297350@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Mark loves movies about mathematicians, theoretical physicists, and
writers. They remind Mark about his halcyon days in graduate school.
What are people's Top 5 favorite movies about mathematicians and
theoretical physicists? Here are some of Mark's nominations, not in
any particular order:
1) Beautiful Mind
2) the movie about Einstein and Meg Ryan
3) Pi
4) the movie about space travel and Jodie Foster
There was a good tv movie a couple of years ago about Stephen Hawking, I
forget the title of it
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| User: "BELANGER di" |
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17 Jun 2005 02:56:05 PM |
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"double d" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote:
1) Beautiful Mind
2) the movie about Einstein and Meg Ryan
3) Pi
4) the movie about space travel and Jodie Foster
Oh, _please_. Why don't you just get it over with and put _Hackers_
on there?
Here's a REAL list:
1) Primer
2) Donald Duck in Mathemagic Land
3) Carnosaur
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BELANGER,
q.e.d
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| User: "Victor Eijkhout" |
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20 Jun 2005 10:11:20 AM |
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BELANGER <di> wrote:
1) Primer
Cool film (much like Pi), but even less about mathematics.
V.
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homepage: www cs utk edu tilde lastname
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| User: "double d" |
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20 Jun 2005 12:18:48 PM |
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What the heck is carosaur about? Is it a kid's movie? Then Mark wants
to nominate the movie about finding Nimo. Wasn't nimo's grandpop an
algebraic topologist?
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| User: "Robert Maas, see http://tinyurl.com/uh3t" |
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24 Jun 2005 04:31:43 AM |
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From: "double d" <markdemers15@hotmail.com>
Mark loves movies about mathematicians, theoretical physicists, and
writers.
There's always "The Day the Earth Stood Still", where Prof. Barnhart
was working out some complicated math, probably differential equations,
on the chalk board, with the goal of working out space mechanics, but
he failed to notice some terms cancelled and then the one remaining
unsolved term was negligible so the rest of what he had was already the
correct answer for all practical purposes, with emphasis on "practical"
(flying saucer landed in W.DC).
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| User: "T RIg" |
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17 Jun 2005 10:51:47 AM |
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Mark loves movies about mathematicians, theoretical physicists, and
writers. They remind Mark about his halcyon days in graduate school.
What are people's Top 5 favorite movies about mathematicians and
theoretical physicists? Here are some of Mark's nominations, not in
any particular order:
1) Beautiful Mind
2) the movie about Einstein and Meg Ryan
3) Pi
4) the movie about space travel and Jodie Foster
Really, well 1, 3, and 4 are themes that difficult endeavor by the
individual destroys the individual.
So I like HGW's Time Machine where a garden society of the future had become
helpless but content...
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| User: "Daniel Ryan" |
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17 Jun 2005 12:22:35 PM |
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How about "Wall Street?" I'm sure more than a few mathematicians would
find/have found the process of second-guessing the algorithms used by the
Securities and Exchange Commission to spot trading patterns indicative of a
sequence of trades contrary to SEC regulations to be quite fascinating.
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| User: "double d" |
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17 Jun 2005 12:31:25 PM |
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Mark can think of other mathematicians in the movies:
1) The nerdy monkey in Planet of the Apes.
2) The looney Mad Scientist in Back to the Future.
3) The geeky control room guys wearing short sleeve shirts in Apollo
13.
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| User: "Mark Martin" |
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17 Jun 2005 02:36:34 PM |
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double d wrote:
Mark can think of other mathematicians in the movies:
1) The nerdy monkey in Planet of the Apes.
2) The looney Mad Scientist in Back to the Future.
3) The geeky control room guys wearing short sleeve shirts in Apollo
13.
None of these are really about methematicians or mathematics. Try
these on for size:
[1]- Enigma
[2]- Sneakers
[3]- Good Will Hunting
[4]- Stand And Deliver
-Mark Martin
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| User: "Robert Israel" |
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19 Jun 2005 04:07:15 PM |
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In article <1119036994.490388.297330@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Mark Martin <qed100@hotmail.com> wrote:
double d wrote:
Mark can think of other mathematicians in the movies:
1) The nerdy monkey in Planet of the Apes.
2) The looney Mad Scientist in Back to the Future.
3) The geeky control room guys wearing short sleeve shirts in Apollo
13.
None of these are really about methematicians or mathematics. Try
these on for size:
[1]- Enigma
[2]- Sneakers
[3]- Good Will Hunting
[4]- Stand And Deliver
See <http://world.std.com/~reinhold/mathmovies.html>.
Robert Israel
Department of Mathematics http://www.math.ubc.ca/~israel
University of British Columbia Vancouver, BC, Canada
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| User: "Jim Spriggs" |
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19 Jun 2005 05:27:11 PM |
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Mark Martin wrote:
[1]- Enigma
Is that the one where the Yanks claim to have done what the Brits did?
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| User: "ošin" |
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19 Jun 2005 06:27:50 PM |
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[1]- Enigma
Is that the one where the Yanks claim to have done what the Brits did?
I think you mean the movie "U-571". It was about the enigma encryption
device carried on German U-boats. It was specifically based on the U-110
nabbed by the British navy. Of course the Hollywood version had the
Americans doing the whole thing... I almost puked!
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| User: "Mark Martin" |
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20 Jun 2005 06:51:07 AM |
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o=F0in wrote:
[1]- Enigma
Is that the one where the Yanks claim to have done what the Brits did?
I think you mean the movie "U-571". It was about the enigma encryption
device carried on German U-boats. It was specifically based on the U-110
nabbed by the British navy. Of course the Hollywood version had the
Americans doing the whole thing... I almost puked!
Yeah, that's basically right. Though it's also true that the United
States also aquired some Enigma machines, unexpectedly, when the U-505
was captured.
-Mark Martin
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| User: "JohnM" |
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22 Jun 2005 10:00:35 PM |
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Mark Martin wrote:
ošin wrote:
[1]- Enigma
Is that the one where the Yanks claim to have done what the Brits did?
I think you mean the movie "U-571". It was about the enigma encryption
device carried on German U-boats. It was specifically based on the U-110
nabbed by the British navy. Of course the Hollywood version had the
Americans doing the whole thing... I almost puked!
Yeah, that's basically right. Though it's also true that the United
States also aquired some Enigma machines, unexpectedly, when the U-505
was captured.
-Mark Martin
Major score for the Allies, and the US navy in particular. It's my
understanding that the maps were of great significance.
U-505 is in Chicago, for those close enough to go see her. Last I heard
they were putting her in an enclosure, should be open soon.
John
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| User: "Mark Martin" |
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22 Jun 2005 11:32:45 PM |
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JohnM wrote:
Mark Martin wrote:
Yeah, that's basically right. Though it's also true that the United
States also aquired some Enigma machines, unexpectedly, when the U-505
was captured.
-Mark Martin
Major score for the Allies, and the US navy in particular. It's my
understanding that the maps were of great significance.
U-505 is in Chicago, for those close enough to go see her. Last I heard
they were putting her in an enclosure, should be open soon.
Yes indeed. I've toured the U-505 a number of times over the past 35
years. In recent times the museum has put a pylon in the waiting area,
made of transparent material and filled to the brim with all manner of
junk. The junk is stuff lost by tourists that fell into the boat's
bilge beyond sight & easy reach, and which stayed there for decades
until restoration was begun. The junk itself is somewhat of an
archaeological treasure. There are flashcubes in it from the '60s!
-Mark Martin
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| User: "JohnM" |
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23 Jun 2005 04:32:54 AM |
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Mark Martin wrote:
JohnM wrote:
Mark Martin wrote:
Yeah, that's basically right. Though it's also true that the United
States also aquired some Enigma machines, unexpectedly, when the U-505
was captured.
-Mark Martin
Major score for the Allies, and the US navy in particular. It's my
understanding that the maps were of great significance.
U-505 is in Chicago, for those close enough to go see her. Last I heard
they were putting her in an enclosure, should be open soon.
Yes indeed. I've toured the U-505 a number of times over the past 35
years. In recent times the museum has put a pylon in the waiting area,
made of transparent material and filled to the brim with all manner of
junk. The junk is stuff lost by tourists that fell into the boat's
bilge beyond sight & easy reach, and which stayed there for decades
until restoration was begun. The junk itself is somewhat of an
archaeological treasure. There are flashcubes in it from the '60s!
-Mark Martin
I've only gone to see the old girl once and the guides weren't perfectly
agreeable- I wanted to spend some time in there and they kept dogging
me. Maybe if a real slow time could be found they'd be more agreeable,
but it wasn't all that busy that day. Very cool boat, I wish they hadn't
cut the hull but I guess they had to.
Heh.. flashcubes.. I found one of those flashcubes that didn't need
electricity (Magicube?) in a drawer full of old stuff a couple years
ago.. Since there's a good use for everything I put that one to work-
held it cupped in my hands like it was a baby hamster and told my
daughters (15 and 8) "Look, look at this- ain't it cool?" They come,
they're looking and can't figure out what's so cool, I tell them "Can't
you see? Look.." and they sort of lean over and look at it and ask what
it is.. I had my thumbnail under the little spring that sets it off and,
as I said "It's a flashcube!" I let 'er rip.
Got criticized pretty heavily for that one, they were pissed.. I showed
them how it worked and they got to flash each other so that made it a
little better.
Gave 'em an old telephone magneto once, they whacked each other 'till
neither would touch the screws.. they had friends over and really got
'em good- "Touch these screws.. no, use both hands" (whirr-whirr)
"YEEOOOWW". The happy sound of children at play, eh?
John
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| User: "T Rig" |
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20 Jun 2005 11:22:57 AM |
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[1]- Enigma
Is that the one where the Yanks claim to have done what the Brits did?
Or the one where the British do not mention that their system was pioneered
by the Poles ?
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| User: "Mark Martin" |
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20 Jun 2005 06:48:48 AM |
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Jim Spriggs wrote:
Mark Martin wrote:
[1]- Enigma
Is that the one where the Yanks claim to have done what the Brits did?
No. Enigma is a dramatisation of the breaking of the Enigma
machine's code by the talents in Great Britain during WW-2.
-Mark Martin
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| User: "double d" |
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18 Jun 2005 04:09:50 AM |
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a high school teacher is a "mathematician"??
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| User: "fishfry" |
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18 Jun 2005 04:57:51 AM |
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In article <1119085790.146558.237120@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"double d" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote:
a high school teacher is a "mathematician"??
Well these are slim pickings. The guy in Good Will Hunting is not a
"mathematician," and the lunatic in Pi certainly isn't, even though he
thinks he is. A Beautiful Mind is about a mathematician.
Of course there is The Life of David Gale!
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| User: "double d" |
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18 Jun 2005 11:14:46 AM |
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David Gale, not a mathematician, but a great movie.
Good Will Hunting is not a mathematician, but at least there were some
physics professor
characters in the movie -- and Mark enjoyed the scenes of his alma
mater.
Pi has no mathematiicans, and the movie makes no sense.
Stand and deliver: Mark is a mathematiican and has mathematicians
working for him, and the high school teacher is no mathematician.
In summary, Mark likes the Einstein movie and the Jodie Foster movie
the best. Mark will see Enigma and primer and let you know about that.
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| User: "David C. Ullrich" |
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19 Jun 2005 07:19:01 AM |
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On 18 Jun 2005 09:14:46 -0700, "double d" <markdemers15@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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Stand and deliver: Mark is a mathematiican
Then why has he been pretending to be totally ignorant of
so many utterly elementary aspects of mathematics?
Just curious.
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David C. Ullrich
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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18 Jun 2005 11:59:56 AM |
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double d wrote:
David Gale, not a mathematician, but a great movie.
Good Will Hunting is not a mathematician, but at least there were some
physics professor
characters in the movie -- and Mark enjoyed the scenes of his alma
mater.
[snip]
Hey stooopid - Fields Medal. The git with the scarf.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "Mark Martin" |
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18 Jun 2005 03:37:45 PM |
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double d wrote:
a high school teacher is a "mathematician"??
Well, he's more a mathematician than some of the characters you
mentioned. Cornelius, from Planet Of The Apes, is anything but a
mathematician.
-Mark Martin
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| User: "double d" |
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19 Jun 2005 12:19:24 PM |
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Mark does not discriminate again mathematicians just because Cornelius
might have more body hair. Cornelius is smarter than many white
mathematicians that Mark knows.
MD
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