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Science > Physics |
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"Pentcho Valev" |
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13 Nov 2006 01:46:37 AM |
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BIG BROTHER'S WORLD AND EINSTEIN'S WORLD |
In Big Brother's world truth is replaced by falsity but the
identification and rejection of false statements remain essential: if
2+2=5 is declared true, 2+2=4 automatically becomes false and is
rejected.
In Einstein's world true and false statements coexist in "theories". So
in Einstein's theory the speed of light is both invariable and
variable. "Invariable" is false, "variable" is true but this
distinction does not matter. What matters is the fact that Einstein's
theory "works" in the sense that millions of people make their living
by teaching it, developing it, confirming it experimentally etc. It is
unthinkable to disturb the integrity of the theory and threaten all
those people by identifying, let alone rejecting, false statements.
Pentcho Valev
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| User: "Norman Bates" |
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| Title: Re: BIG BROTHER'S WORLD AND EINSTEIN'S WORLD |
13 Nov 2006 04:31:39 AM |
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"Pentcho Valev" <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1163403997.011061.108660@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
In Big Brother's world truth is replaced by falsity but the
identification and rejection of false statements remain essential: if
2+2=5 is declared true, 2+2=4 automatically becomes false and is
rejected.
In Einstein's world true and false statements coexist in "theories". So
in Einstein's theory the speed of light is both invariable and
variable. "Invariable" is false, "variable" is true but this
distinction does not matter. What matters is the fact that Einstein's
theory "works" in the sense that millions of people make their living
by teaching it, developing it, confirming it experimentally etc. It is
unthinkable to disturb the integrity of the theory and threaten all
those people by identifying, let alone rejecting, false statements.
Pentcho Valev
So what are you saying - it relative...?
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| User: "Phineas T Puddleduck" |
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| Title: Re: BIG BROTHER'S WORLD AND EINSTEIN'S WORLD |
13 Nov 2006 08:49:13 AM |
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On 2006-11-13 07:46:37 +0000, "Pentcho Valev" <pvalev@yahoo.com> said:
In Einstein's world true and false statements coexist in "theories". So
in Einstein's theory the speed of light is both invariable and
variable. "Invariable" is false, "variable" is true but this
distinction does not matter. What matters is the fact that Einstein's
theory "works" in the sense that millions of people make their living
by teaching it, developing it, confirming it experimentally etc. It is
unthinkable to disturb the integrity of the theory and threaten all
those people by identifying, let alone rejecting, false statements.
Where's the false statement if it is confirmed experimentally, as you
say? Or are you just ***** you got roundly whooped over
thermodynamics and are desperately looking for something to attack?
--
The biggest enemy of science is pseudo science. Oh, and Jeff Relf too...
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| User: "Rock Brentwood" |
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| Title: The Return Of The Anti-Science, Anti-Einsteiner Fascists (was: ... EINSTEIN'S WORLD) |
13 Nov 2006 05:20:18 AM |
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Pentcho Valev wrote:
In Big Brother's world truth is replaced by falsity but the
identification and rejection of false statements remain essential: if
2+2=5 is declared true, 2+2=4 automatically becomes false and is
rejected.
In Einstein's world true and false statements coexist in "theories".
In Lenard's world -- the world that eventually became the Germany of
the 1920's and 1930's -- journals became crowded with anti-Einstein
papers and rants that gradually devolved into little more than
political diatribes; reaching such a crescendo that by 1933 the man was
driven out of the country ... shortly after his home was attacked.
During and before that time, largely at the behest of Lenard (the
loudest of the prehistorical descendants of Rushite neocons and other
flat-earthers and creationists), an entirely separate institute of
science was established to promote the "purity" German science and
divorce it from the newly emerging "Jewish" science of Einstein.
Never mind that Poincare', Lorentz, Hilbert, Minkowski and numerous
others -- who remained virtually unscathed in this assault -- were
crucially involved in the development of the science. The diatribe was
not about the science, it was about the man.
And so it is today; the absence of any word other than that directed
against Einstein all-too-telling of both the sentiment and true agenda
of those like you.
You and your other Big Brother allies will be stopped cold, even as you
try to push the outcroppings of fascism on these shores in the US under
your various phony Conservi-Liberal fascist pretexts, whether it be
Megan's law and civil registries, the Patriot act & suspension of
habeas corpus, the increasingly Orwellian "free press" that the mass
media has degenerated into under the conglomerate ownership of your
corporate big business allies ... you will be stopped, and you will
stopped cold.
Good people will not sit still this time around and allow you to bring
back the environment of 1920's and 1930's Germany.
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| User: "Tom Potter" |
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| Title: Re: The Return Of The Anti-Science, Anti-Einsteiner Fascists (was: ... EINSTEIN'S WORLD) |
26 Nov 2006 09:39:15 PM |
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"Rock Brentwood" <markwh04@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1163416818.014228.4690@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Pentcho Valev wrote:
In Big Brother's world truth is replaced by falsity but the
identification and rejection of false statements remain essential: if
2+2=5 is declared true, 2+2=4 automatically becomes false and is
rejected.
In Einstein's world true and false statements coexist in "theories".
In Lenard's world -- the world that eventually became the Germany of
the 1920's and 1930's -- journals became crowded with anti-Einstein
papers and rants that gradually devolved into little more than
political diatribes; reaching such a crescendo that by 1933 the man was
driven out of the country ... shortly after his home was attacked.
During and before that time, largely at the behest of Lenard (the
loudest of the prehistorical descendants of Rushite neocons and other
flat-earthers and creationists), an entirely separate institute of
science was established to promote the "purity" German science and
divorce it from the newly emerging "Jewish" science of Einstein.
It is interesting to see that "Rock Brentwood"
tries to convey the impression, that modern physics,
which is largely the work of Galileo, Newton,
Maxwell, Bohr, Schrödinger, Dirac, etc.
is "Jewish science".
As can be seen,
many people have been conditioned
by the media and by the Jewish Lobby,
to think that Einstein made enormous contributions
to science.
Things should be judged by their works,
not by the hype motivated by race, religion, nationality, etc.
After Newton's model,
there were immediate and rapid advances
in mechanics, astronomy, etc.
After Maxwell's model
there were immediate and rapid advances
in chemistry, electricity, etc.
After Watson's and Crick's DNA model
there were immediate and rapid advances
in medicine, genetics, animal husbandry,
the history of the Earth and Mankind, etc.
Here we are, 100 years after General Relativity
and it continues to generate more hype and heat
than light and advances.
General Relativity was an attempt by Einstein,
to apply the maths and methods used by the stress analysis people
in the late 1900's to model the stresses in bodies,
to model the entire universe.
GTR is a continuous, **auguring** model,
and does not apply to realities that involve quanta,
nor bodies inhabited by things that dynamically
modify the body being modeled.
Can you imagine stress analysis experts
wasting their time using their tensors and methods
to model a city populated by sentient beings?
Although the Lunar Society discredited auguring back in Watt's day,
and paved the way for the Industrial Revolution,
the Einstein promoters and cult members
are aggressively trying to bring auguring back into play.
General Relativity is a Tower of Babel
that wastes time, money and minds on such
pursuits as time travel, worm holes, gravity waves, etc.
Perhaps the German people,
who are perhaps the most intelligent and productive
folks on the planet, did not want to get caught up
in a Tower of Babel that would erode their productivity.
As can be seen,
in American trillions of dollars,
and millions of hours,
and thousands of minds,
have been wasted trying to teach and rationalize
an obviously flawed model of reality.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp/
http://tdp1001.googlepages.com/home
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http://www.frappr.com/tompotter
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
http://spaces.msn.com/tdp1001
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/
http://tom-potter.blogspot.com
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| User: "Sorcerer" |
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| Title: Re: The Return Of The Anti-Science, Pro-Einstein Nazis (was: ... EINSTEIN'S WORLD) |
13 Nov 2006 05:27:50 AM |
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"Rock Brentwood" <markwh04@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1163416818.014228.4690@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
| Pentcho Valev wrote:
| > In Big Brother's world truth is replaced by falsity but the
| > identification and rejection of false statements remain essential: if
| > 2+2=5 is declared true, 2+2=4 automatically becomes false and is
| > rejected.
| >
| > In Einstein's world true and false statements coexist in "theories".
|
| In Lenard's world -- the world that eventually became the Germany of
| the 1920's and 1930's -- journals became crowded with anti-Einstein
| papers and rants that gradually devolved into little more than
| political diatribes; reaching such a crescendo that by 1933 the man was
| driven out of the country ... shortly after his home was attacked.
|
| During and before that time, largely at the behest of Lenard (the
| loudest of the prehistorical descendants of Rushite neocons and other
| flat-earthers and creationists), an entirely separate institute of
| science was established to promote the "purity" German science and
| divorce it from the newly emerging "Jewish" science of Einstein.
|
| Never mind that Poincare', Lorentz, Hilbert, Minkowski and numerous
| others -- who remained virtually unscathed in this assault -- were
| crucially involved in the development of the science. The diatribe was
| not about the science, it was about the man.
|
| And so it is today; the absence of any word other than that directed
| against Einstein all-too-telling of both the sentiment and true agenda
| of those like you.
|
| You and your other Big Brother allies will be stopped cold, even as you
| try to push the outcroppings of fascism on these shores in the US under
| your various phony Conservi-Liberal fascist pretexts, whether it be
| Megan's law and civil registries, the Patriot act & suspension of
| habeas corpus, the increasingly Orwellian "free press" that the mass
| media has degenerated into under the conglomerate ownership of your
| corporate big business allies ... you will be stopped, and you will
| stopped cold.
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| Good people will not sit still this time around and allow you to bring
| back the environment of 1920's and 1930's Germany.
Good people will not sit around allowing your fucking religious hero
worship,
you fascist liar.
Androcles
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