Science > Physics > Book about roulette "cheating" with computer and camera
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"Francois Belfort" |
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26 Oct 2003 07:52:42 AM |
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Book about roulette "cheating" with computer and camera |
There once was a book telling about two people who built a device
with which they could predict the outcome of roulette from the
motion of the ball. It seems that they tried this in some
Las Vegas casinos.
I'd like to buy this book as a present for a friend of mine.
Does anybody know what the book was?
Merci d'avance!
FB
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| User: "Double-A" |
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26 Oct 2003 05:34:27 PM |
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(Francois Belfort) wrote in message news:<d395fd35.0310260552.3bf690e0@posting.google.com>...
There once was a book telling about two people who built a device
with which they could predict the outcome of roulette from the
motion of the ball. It seems that they tried this in some
Las Vegas casinos.
I'd like to buy this book as a present for a friend of mine.
Does anybody know what the book was?
Merci d'avance!
FB
I was once trying to develop a scheme where I could time the ball and
time the wheel and run it through a hidden computer to predict the
most probable numbers the ball would land on. But there are
obstructions placed between the track where the ball first rolls and
the wheel itself, so that the ball will hit these obstructions as it
falls in, and they will cause it to take several unpredictable bounces
before in drops onto a number. This takes all the predictability out
of it.
Besides, a well-managed casino will require you to place your bets
before the ball is thrown.
Einstein said, " The only way to win at roulette is to steal from the
table."
But with all the cameras trained on you in a modern casino, that's
become almost impossible to do.
Double-A
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| User: "Big Bird" |
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26 Oct 2003 09:05:17 PM |
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(Double-A) wrote in message news:<79094630.0310261534.165df513@posting.google.com>...
Einstein said, " The only way to win at roulette is to steal from the
table."
Did he really say that? You got some kind of source to go with that quote?
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The BEST way to win at roulette is to own the Casino.
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| User: "Double-A" |
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27 Oct 2003 02:00:24 AM |
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(Big Bird) wrote in message news:<df160b8f.0310261905.a323c4d@posting.google.com>...
double-a@hush.com (Double-A) wrote in message news:<79094630.0310261534.165df513@posting.google.com>...
Einstein said, " The only way to win at roulette is to steal from the
table."
Did he really say that? You got some kind of source to go with that quote?
The exact quote:
"You cannot beat a roulette table unless you steal money from it. ~Albert Einstein.
http://www.quotegarden.com/gambling.html
Many other sources give this same exact quote, while others offer variations on it.
Double-A
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| User: "Bruce" |
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26 Oct 2003 09:58:51 PM |
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In sci.physics
condor@biosys.net (Big Bird) wrote:
double-a@hush.com (Double-A) wrote in message news:<79094630.0310261534.165df513@posting.google.com>...
Einstein said, " The only way to win at roulette is to steal from the
table."
Did he really say that? You got some kind of source to go with that quote?
No source but it is on this site:
http://www.gambling.com/static/go_page.cfm?ID=1323
Of course Einstein got it wrong.
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| User: "Theo" |
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26 Oct 2003 11:22:44 PM |
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I was once trying to develop a scheme where I could time the ball and
time the wheel and run it through a hidden computer to predict the
most probable numbers the ball would land on. But there are
obstructions placed between the track where the ball first rolls and
the wheel itself, so that the ball will hit these obstructions as it
falls in, and they will cause it to take several unpredictable bounces
before in drops onto a number. This takes all the predictability out
of it.
WARNING, the reader assumes all responsibility and consequences of the
following and is provided here as a theoritical probability study in
roulette methods. The choice to gamble is yours and yours alone. I
accept no responsibility.
The odds in rouletter may be made more favourable, by hunting for
croupiers who are nearing the end of their shift, and have become
"lazy assed" about their spinning. Normally the ball will begin to
land in a zone (a sector) on the wheel. How wide you make that zone,
you decide that. It becomes a measure of the risk taken in the
outcome. The zone size determines how much risk you place on the
outcome (see below). If a sudden kicker (meaning a ball which had hit
a bump on the wheel in a bad way and moved into a different zone)
occurs by waiting, watching and evaluating, a new zone may be
established. If the kicker did happen, then by watching the wheel for
a few spins it will be possible to see if a new zone has been
established. Once the croupier goes on a break, stop.
When betting, by covering as many of the numbers in the zone as
possible increases the odds of a win. By playing combinations in the
zone, also helps to cover more numbers with fewer bets, and maximizes
the return. Naturally if the zone is made narrower, then there are
fewer numbers to bet on, and a greater return. The wider the zone, the
more numbers to cover, the lower the return.
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| User: "Ian Stirling" |
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26 Oct 2003 08:17:29 AM |
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Francois Belfort <francoisbelfort@yahoo.fr> wrote:
There once was a book telling about two people who built a device
with which they could predict the outcome of roulette from the
motion of the ball. It seems that they tried this in some
Las Vegas casinos.
I'd like to buy this book as a present for a friend of mine.
Does anybody know what the book was?
The newtonian casino.
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| User: "Pyriform" |
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26 Oct 2003 07:05:09 PM |
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Ian Stirling wrote:
Francois Belfort <francoisbelfort@yahoo.fr> wrote:
There once was a book telling about two people who built a device
with which they could predict the outcome of roulette from the
motion of the ball. It seems that they tried this in some
Las Vegas casinos.
I'd like to buy this book as a present for a friend of mine.
Does anybody know what the book was?
The newtonian casino.
I've just realised this is the title of the UK edition. The original
title was so much better.
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Pyriform
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| User: "Pyriform" |
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26 Oct 2003 06:27:51 PM |
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Francois Belfort wrote:
There once was a book telling about two people who built a device
with which they could predict the outcome of roulette from the
motion of the ball. It seems that they tried this in some
Las Vegas casinos.
I'd like to buy this book as a present for a friend of mine.
Does anybody know what the book was?
The Eudaemonic Pie by Thomas Bass:
"After six difficult years, during which the effort of nearly two dozen
people had been sucked into the project, an approach was developed that
relied on teams made up of two people, a data gatherer and a bettor. It
worked so well that small, experimental bets placed in minor league
casinos began to pay off consistently. The group then revamped its
technology, shrinking the computer, receivers, transmitter, and keyboard
involved to the point where everything could be worn in the players'
shoes. ... It seems likely this book will spread serious alarm among the
casino owners of the world and that the customs of roulette are in for
some concentrated scrutiny."
New York Times Book Review
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Pyriform
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| User: "Bruce" |
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26 Oct 2003 07:19:34 PM |
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In sci.physics
"Pyriform" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
Francois Belfort wrote:
There once was a book telling about two people who built a device
with which they could predict the outcome of roulette from the
motion of the ball. It seems that they tried this in some
Las Vegas casinos.
I'd like to buy this book as a present for a friend of mine.
Does anybody know what the book was?
The Eudaemonic Pie by Thomas Bass:
Yep, I just bought it but had to get it used from an Amazon seller. It was
a decent book but will be more appreciated by an embedded systems
programmer, like myself, rather than somone trying to beat roulette.
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