| Topic: |
Science > Physics |
| User: |
"kumar" |
| Date: |
12 Feb 2005 02:39:22 AM |
| Object: |
Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
Hello,
Is/was there any prime/single/basic force or energy & matter which
made, dominated & controlled us & "omni" in nature-- existed/existing
everywhere? Can you name it & explain its science & properties?
Best wishes.
.
|
|
| User: "Sam Wormley" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
12 Feb 2005 05:40:11 AM |
|
|
kumar wrote:
Is/was there any prime/single/basic force ....
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/FundamentalForces.html
.
|
|
|
| User: "kumar" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
13 Feb 2005 03:09:42 AM |
|
|
But which is prime/basic force out of these four or what can be source
of these four fundamental forces?
What about prime matter?
.
|
|
|
| User: "TomGee" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
13 Feb 2005 08:33:33 AM |
|
|
Kumar,
The "prime/basic force" you refer to is that which we call energy, in
my opinion, and the effects we see as kinetic energy is a visible
force. Energy exists as "potential" energy which exists in matter, but
we cannot see it because it has no visible effects.
However, having no visible effects does not mean potential energy has
no effects, it just means we have not been able to see them in the
past. I believe we can see them now as the effects of dark
matter/energy which have been observed more recently.
Energy is defined as "something" having the capacity to do work and
also as a supply or source of power. Capacity is defined several ways
but for our discussion, it means a physical ability to do or experience
something. Therefore, the term does not relate to your question of
"which is prime/basic force...?"
The second definition I noted above, however, does specifically relate
to your question about "...what can be the source of these...forces?"
I post below an excerpt from my essay, "The Time And Motion
Relationship'' by Thomas Garcia, copyright 1996, tyropress@yahoo.com:
" The next question for us, then, should be: How and when does such
transfer of energy occur? The answer to that is not really as
difficult as it may seem. Energy is commonly de-fined as the capacity
of matter to perform work, as a consequence of its motion or position
in relation to forces acting upon it. Yet, energy is also defined as
usable power, as a vigorous exertion of power, and as a synonym for
power. Other synonyms for energy are force, strength, and might.
Power is ordinarily defined as the time rate at which work is done, but
it is also defined as the ability to act or produce an effect, and it
implies possession of the ability to wield force. Therefore, energy is
a force having the power to overcome resistance to it.
A force is ordinarily defined as any action or influence that when
applied to a free body results sometimes in an acceleration of the body
and sometimes in elastic deformation and/or other effects. Newton's
second law of motion states that the amount of acceleration imposed on
an object times the mass of the object is equal to the net force acting
on the object. We may argue that particular law refers only to
objects, but a force is also described as the influ-ence of a field,
such as electrical and gravitational fields. A force acting at an
atomic level is known in high-energy physics as an interaction.
So-called elementary particles exert forces on each other and the
imposition of such forces are called interactions. In spite of all the
defini-tions above that lead to the conclusion that energy is a force,
I have met with solid opposition against such a claim from some
knowledgeable Internet users who post on physics news-groups. They
seem unwilling to accept the obvious, probably because there already
exist four other well-explained "forces of nature."
I have heard no one seriously suggest that energy could be a fifth
force. That could be because all four forces use energy as their
motive power. They use it in different ways, but it is energy they
use, nevertheless. Even the so-called messenger, or "signal" particles
must ac-complish their "work," or, "interactions," through the use of
energy. One would think that the concept of energy as a force could
easily be accepted on the basis alone that it is the one force which is
common to all the other forces and if so, it may be that it is also the
central factor of the GUT of the universe and essential to the TOE.
Clifford E. Swartz writes in "Mechanics," in an article for Microsoft
Encarta Encyclopedia 99: "The quantity called energy ties together all
branches of physics. In...mechanics, energy must be provided to do
work;.... Many other forms of energy exist: electric and magnetic
potential energy; kinetic energy; energy stored in compressed springs,
compressed gases, or molecular bonds; thermal energy; and mass itself."
TomGee 021305
.
|
|
|
| User: "Y.Porat" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
14 Feb 2005 12:02:13 AM |
|
|
See my pdf file at:
http://www.geocities.com/franklinhu/Y.Porat-model2.pdf
you can see there the chain of orbitals idea on the alpha particle
and how it leads to the Circlon
a particle that moves naturally in a closed circle
you can see how it is implemented at the appendix to be a force maker
and .....
matter maker
------------------
all the best
Y.Porat
-----------------------------------------
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "kumar" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
13 Feb 2005 12:38:14 PM |
|
|
TomGee, Thanks. You tried to explain it best but I think all these
refer to properties of "force". But one source of all energies/forces
as "one prime/basic force" is not clear.
Furthur, it is interesting that we couldn't tet see/measure "potential
energy" existance. Don;t we get some change in spin/motion in atoms &
molecules on store/existance of PE? PE is a continious application of
energy. Why cant be some change in atoms/molecules on getting this PE?
.
|
|
|
| User: "TomGee" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
13 Feb 2005 05:17:33 PM |
|
|
kumar wrote:
TomGee, Thanks. You tried to explain it best but I think all these
refer to properties of "force".
Yes, that was my intention, to show you that force is the
implementation of energy and thus energy is force.
But one source of all energies/forces
as "one prime/basic force" is not clear.
That's because there are different sources of energy for each force,
and each different source uses energy in a different way. They all use
energy in one form or another, however, and so it is evident that
energy as a quality is the one common factor between the four forces.
Energy then, is the "one prime/basic force" which you seek. It unifies
all the forces into one fundamental quality of our universe, and I
predict it will become the Theory OF Everything eventually.
Furthur, it is interesting that we couldn't tet see/measure
"potential
energy" existance. Don;t we get some change in spin/motion in atoms &
molecules on store/existance of PE? PE is a continious application of
energy. Why cant be some change in atoms/molecules on getting this
PE?
My model predicts also that visible matter has positive energy and dark
matter has negative energy and mass, and that space is comprised of
dark matter which acts as a medium for visible mass and energy.
Visible matter is the byproduct, evidently, of the effects of dark
matter, I think, and so dark matter and energy are more fundamental
than positive mass/energy.
TomGee 02/3/5
.
|
|
|
| User: "kumar" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
14 Feb 2005 04:52:35 AM |
|
|
"I think, and so dark matter and energy are more fundamental than
positive mass/energy."
It can be thought as dark black colour can absorb all wavelengths.
I think we store energy in dark & spent during day.
Dark can represent '0' or dot or directionless, so it can be thought
as negative/prime energy. Numbers say '1' can be positive
energy/matter. All 0000 will be pointless/directionless wheras 10000
will be much energy with magnitude & direction. We can also think about
zero on left ot right of any number.
It is also said that "A photon with zero wavelengh has infinite
energy". But whether this zero is dot or nothing is to be seen?
.
|
|
|
| User: "TomGee" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
14 Feb 2005 11:29:41 AM |
|
|
kumar wrote:
"I think, and so dark matter and energy are more fundamental than
positive mass/energy."
It can be thought as dark black colour can absorb all wavelengths.
No. The use of the term "Dark Matter" is to avoid using the term,
"invisible", a term scientists are loath to mouth, but it has no
relation to the color black or any color. Dark Matter means invisible
matter, period.
I think we store energy in dark & spent during day.
No. Energy is stored during both day and night. It has no relation to
the time of day.
Dark can represent '0' or dot or directionless, so it can be thought
as negative/prime energy.
You mean that zero or a directionless space can represent Dark Matter,
I'm sure. I am unsure of what you mean by a "dot" having anything to
do with this issue.
Numbers say '1' can be positive
energy/matter.
No. I guess you mean positive energy/matter can be designated the
number "1".
All 0000 will be pointless/directionless wheras 10000
will be much energy with magnitude & direction. We can also think
about
zero on left ot right of any number.
It is also said that "A photon with zero wavelengh has infinite
energy". But whether this zero is dot or nothing is to be seen?
A photon with zero wavelength is not visible so whatever energy it has
must be negative energy, not positive. We cannot know whether or not
it has infinite negative energy. Mebbe so.
TomGee
.
|
|
|
| User: "kumar" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
15 Feb 2005 09:23:29 AM |
|
|
Is it true;
Shorter the wavelength more will be its energy. Zero wavelength may
have infinite energy. Whether this zero is smallest dot/point---is to
be thought. Is it also true that shorter the wavelength more it moves
toward negative energy? If it is true then it is right to think that
prime force should have infinite negative energy provided we find prime
energy as smallest dot/point.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Randy Poe" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
15 Feb 2005 09:32:35 AM |
|
|
kumar wrote:
Is it true;
Shorter the wavelength more will be its energy.
The energy of a photon is hc/lambda, where h and c
are constants (Planck's constant and the speed of light)
and lambda is the wavelength.
So the smaller lambda is, the higher energy a photon is
needed to carry that energy. Therefore radiation of these
wavelengths is not emitted unless (hc/lambda) amount of
energy is available. That's the key point of the quantum
theory of light, and it's why blackbodies have fewer
photons of short wavelength.
Zero wavelength may have infinite energy.
Well, in the limit as lambda->0, a photon carrying that
energy would have to have energy->infinity. But what
that means is that no physical process can emit such
a photon, because infinite energy is not available.
Whether this zero is smallest dot/point---is to
be thought.
Huh? Zero is zero. Are you trying to say this is a
zero which is not zero but is the Planck length?
If it's zero, then it's zero. If a photon has wavelength
equal to the Planck length, then it has finite
energy.
- Randy
.
|
|
|
| User: "Y.Porat" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
16 Feb 2005 06:45:01 AM |
|
|
Randy Poe wrote:
kumar wrote:
Is it true;
Shorter the wavelength more will be its energy.
The energy of a photon is hc/lambda, where h and c
are constants (Planck's constant and the speed of light)
and lambda is the wavelength.
So the smaller lambda is, the higher energy a photon is
needed to carry that energy. Therefore radiation of these
wavelengths is not emitted unless (hc/lambda) amount of
energy is available. That's the key point of the quantum
theory of light, and it's why blackbodies have fewer
photons of short wavelength.
Zero wavelength may have infinite energy.
Well, in the limit as lambda->0, a photon carrying that
energy would have to have energy->infinity. But what
that means is that no physical process can emit such
a photon, because infinite energy is not available.
------------------
some shocking news for you:
ant physics formula or equation has its
*limit of viability* limits of existing in nature!(scope
of existsnce)
it is different from the matemathical scope
so ?
for inatance
a photon can have mass and still move with the velocity of light
that is in spight of the famous lorentz factor
(that tell you that while a mass is moving with C
its mass growes' to infinity
there is only a little problems with it
matemathicains 'know it' that the photon has aero mass
but the trouble is -- nature does not know it !!!
in a similar wway the lenth of a photon has a limit!!
it cannot become infinitely short
because physics is not all laong matemathics.
ps
the roll of the non parrot physicist is to find the real
scope of exixtance of a mathemathical formula or equation.
-----------
all the best
Y.Porat
-----------------
Whether this zero is smallest dot/point---is to
be thought.
Huh? Zero is zero. Are you trying to say this is a
zero which is not zero but is the Planck length?
If it's zero, then it's zero. If a photon has wavelength
equal to the Planck length, then it has finite
energy.
- Randy
.
|
|
|
| User: "John Sefton" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
16 Feb 2005 09:19:34 AM |
|
|
Y.Porat wrote:
Randy Poe wrote:
kumar wrote:
Is it true;
Shorter the wavelength more will be its energy.
The energy of a photon is hc/lambda, where h and c
are constants (Planck's constant and the speed of light)
and lambda is the wavelength.
So the smaller lambda is, the higher energy a photon is
needed to carry that energy. Therefore radiation of these
wavelengths is not emitted unless (hc/lambda) amount of
energy is available. That's the key point of the quantum
theory of light, and it's why blackbodies have fewer
photons of short wavelength.
Zero wavelength may have infinite energy.
Well, in the limit as lambda->0, a photon carrying that
energy would have to have energy->infinity. But what
that means is that no physical process can emit such
a photon, because infinite energy is not available.
------------------
some shocking news for you:
ant physics formula or equation has its
*limit of viability* limits of existing in nature!(scope
of existsnce)
it is different from the matemathical scope
so ?
for inatance
a photon can have mass and still move with the velocity of light
that is in spight of the famous lorentz factor
(that tell you that while a mass is moving with C
its mass growes' to infinity
there is only a little problems with it
matemathicains 'know it' that the photon has aero mass
but the trouble is -- nature does not know it !!!
in a similar wway the lenth of a photon has a limit!!
it cannot become infinitely short
because physics is not all laong matemathics.
ps
the roll of the non parrot physicist is to find the real
scope of exixtance of a mathemathical formula or equation.
-----------
all the best
Y.Porat
-----------------
Whether this zero is smallest dot/point---is to
be thought.
Huh? Zero is zero. Are you trying to say this is a
zero which is not zero but is the Planck length?
If it's zero, then it's zero. If a photon has wavelength
equal to the Planck length, then it has finite
energy.
- Randy
A proton in a far galaxy is
identical to a proton here.
Why?
Because it also uses the smallest
possible building block available.
So what?
It means that space itself must not
only have structure, but that said structure
is the same everywhere. There is
a rule. (In the sense that a page
is ruled- the line space is set.)
So what is that rule?
It seems to be tied to the Planck length
all right.
Lately I'm thinking that atoms have
another common constraint; they all have
the same rate of precession: they all
have a common frequency which is how fast
these 'coins' are spinning on the table. The
Galaxy Model sees atoms as energy
formed into spinning rings which precess.
The Galaxy pattern
http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/galaxypattern.gif
forms from spinning at 1 and precessing at 2.
But you don't get that 'complete' pattern until
you use 16 members in the ring.
However, step up to spinning your ring (like
a wheel turns) faster- at the next place where
opposite sides of the ring will again follow each
other around as it precesses at 2 is at the
next odd number of turns of the ring- 3.
This way once the ring has precessed once back to
its starting point, it has turned one and a half
times: the back electron and front electron have
traded places. There are two electrons per path;
the ones opposite each other on the ring.
BUT you only need 8 members in the ring to
evenly cover your sphere in this case:
http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/3-2-8.jpg
So if we continue to hold the precession at
2 and spin the ring faster and faster, then
2-electron pathways are available at
5:2 and 7:2 and 9:2 etc and at
each place it should require fewer electrons
in the ring to cover the sphere evenly, until
presumably it will only require a single
orbital to cover the entire spherical shell.
At 9:2? I bet.
John
http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/
.
|
|
|
| User: "Y.Porat" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
16 Feb 2005 10:03:23 AM |
|
|
Jhon
you need to spread a little your rings
and get out of the sphere that seems to fix your creative immagination
so pleae see soemthing of my crative immagnation in the folowing little
site
:
http://www.geocities.com/porat_y/mypage.html
all the best
Y.Porat
------------------------------
.
|
|
|
| User: "John Sefton" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
19 Feb 2005 10:39:27 AM |
|
|
Y.Porat wrote:
Jhon
you need to spread a little your rings
and get out of the sphere that seems to fix your creative immagination
so pleae see soemthing of my crative immagnation in the folowing little
site
:
http://www.geocities.com/porat_y/mypage.html
all the best
Y.Porat
------------------------------
I shy away from pdf files.
I was told they can be dangerous.
Can you précis it on the page that loads?
John
.
|
|
|
| User: "kumar" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
21 Feb 2005 09:13:43 AM |
|
|
Can it be thought that "Kinetic Energy" is Prime/basic energy & its
deviated/modified form as "potencial energy"? Whether for any
modification in any potencial energy, it need to pass through this
'Kinetic energy' form? Whether all that we see or can see are just
modified form of this prime/basic energy in differant forms or stages?
Whether all modified substances tends to come to its natural forms--so
storehouse of enegy as PE?
.
|
|
|
| User: "Franz Heymann" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
21 Feb 2005 11:48:12 AM |
|
|
"kumar" <lordshiva5753@rediffmail.com> wrote in message
news:1108998823.254547.152980@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Can it be thought that "Kinetic Energy" is Prime/basic energy
No
& its
deviated/modified form as "potencial energy"?
No
Whether for any
modification in any potencial energy, it need to pass through this
'Kinetic energy' form? Whether all that we see or can see are just
modified form of this prime/basic energy in differant forms or
stages?
Whether all modified substances tends to come to its natural
forms--so
storehouse of enegy as PE?
You are drivelling.
--
Franz
"The great tragedy of science -- the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis
by an ugly fact."
T.H. Huxley
.
|
|
|
| User: "kumar" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
22 Feb 2005 04:17:13 AM |
|
|
Why? Any dot/point shaped thing/energy can be concentrated or made into
any line/wave form. How can you show that kinetic energy is not the
prime energy?
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Y.Porat" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
22 Feb 2005 04:34:50 AM |
|
|
and even before they were born!!!
an abortion by a hostle uncle !!
Y.Porat
but more important please see my previous answer of today
lets leave the old goates aside.
Y.Porat
---------------------
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Y.Porat" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
23 Feb 2005 06:24:42 AM |
|
|
sems reasonable but
too abstract
yet you know :
the more abstarct - the less useful!!
you have to go down to reality and to -detailes-
as far as posible - all along
ie to get the posibility to enter any wanted 'corner'
in physics.
anyway that seens a job for many many generations.
Y.P
--------------------------
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Y.Porat" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
19 Feb 2005 11:45:15 AM |
|
|
John Sefton wrote:
Y.Porat wrote:
Jhon
you need to spread a little your rings
and get out of the sphere that seems to fix your creative
immagination
so pleae see soemthing of my crative immagnation in the folowing
little
site
:
http://www.geocities.com/porat_y/mypage.html
all the best
Y.Porat
------------------------------
I shy away from pdf files.
I was told they can be dangerous.
Can you pr=E9cis it on the page that loads?
John
----------------
you have nothing to feer of
my computer is over safe by the best security
known tools.
many people opened it without problem
(the only thing you have to feer is
to get some shock about
how different and new it will be for you
anyway if you are 'sock profed' nothing wrong
will happen to you .)
-----------
-----------------
Y=2EPorat
---------
.
|
|
|
| User: "kumar" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
20 Feb 2005 03:48:56 AM |
|
|
Ok, it is bit difficult to understand. But I think prime energy should
be a free to move in all direction, unbounded, simplest/smallest yet
indefinite alike "omni--present, potent & scient.
I think it should be kinetic form of energy & should be the basis of
all evolution which are differant stages of concentration &
differanciations of this prime energy. Persistance, stay or store of
energy by concentration & differanciations of this prime energy should
be the "potencial energy" which can have some limits. Is it ok?
.
|
|
|
| User: "Y.Porat" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
22 Feb 2005 04:32:11 AM |
|
|
Hi Kumer
if you refere to me ?
that
i forgot to tell you that this Circlon
is permanently moving with a constanr veleocity
as say C
2
its colltion is only with another circlon
and this cpllisionos completely *elastic*
so no losses of energy!
energy is for me- those circlons in movement.
so it should be constant all along our univrse
those circlons can only change directions
depends on the collision angle between the two
coliders.
does it make it cleare ??
TIA
Y.Porat
-----------------------------
.
|
|
|
| User: "kumar" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
23 Feb 2005 03:03:02 AM |
|
|
Sorry, I couldn't understand--what you said.
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "kumar" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
16 Feb 2005 12:21:10 AM |
|
|
Randy, thanks.
"Well, in the limit as lambda->0, a photon carrying that
energy would have to have energy->infinity. But what
that means is that no physical process can emit such
a photon, because infinite energy is not available."
Yes, because infinite energy is not available, therefore it is not zero
by dot/point. In view of E=mc2 & mass & energy can be converted into
each other, mass ought be there in every energy. Otherwise how it will
be combined & form mass. So there should be 'dot/point mass' instead of
'zero rest mass'.
It it not logical right?
.
|
|
|
| User: "Randy Poe" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
16 Feb 2005 09:48:19 AM |
|
|
kumar wrote:
Randy, thanks.
"Well, in the limit as lambda->0, a photon carrying that
energy would have to have energy->infinity. But what
that means is that no physical process can emit such
a photon, because infinite energy is not available."
Yes, because infinite energy is not available, therefore it is not
zero
by dot/point.
What?
I have no idea what "it is not zero by dot/point"
might mean. In fact, I have no idea what "it" refers
to.
In view of E=mc2 & mass & energy can be converted into
each other,
Yes, under certain circumstances.
mass ought be there in every energy.
No. E = mc^2 tells you that WHEN a conversion happens,
how much energy goes into creating how much mass or
vice versa. For instance, the mass of an electron is
equivalent to 511 keV. Electrons are created together
with positrons, so you need 2*511 = 1022 keV of energy
before you can create this matter. If you have less than
that, you don't get half an electron. The energy
remains in the form of energy.
Otherwise how it will be combined & form mass.
Yes, energy can "condense" into mass.
So there should be 'dot/point mass'
Since I don't know what you mean by "dot/point mass"
I don't see what conclusion you're drawing. Perhaps
you are talking about creating infinitesimal bits
of matter from tiny packets of energy. It doesn't
happen. Like so much in this world, mass creation
is quantized and you don't get mass until you have
a sizable chunk of energy. There's no partial creation.
It it not logical right?
No, it is not logical.
- Randy
.
|
|
|
| User: "kumar" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
18 Feb 2005 02:10:10 AM |
|
|
Randy, thanks for information. By dot/point, I want to understand
shortest/smallest form of energy which may be prime energy source.
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "TomGee" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
14 Feb 2005 11:30:33 AM |
|
|
kumar wrote:
"I think, and so dark matter and energy are more fundamental than
positive mass/energy."
It can be thought as dark black colour can absorb all wavelengths.
I think we store energy in dark & spent during day.
Dark can represent '0' or dot or directionless, so it can be thought
as negative/prime energy. Numbers say '1' can be positive
energy/matter. All 0000 will be pointless/directionless wheras 10000
will be much energy with magnitude & direction. We can also think
about
zero on left ot right of any number.
It is also said that "A photon with zero wavelengh has infinite
energy". But whether this zero is dot or nothing is to be seen?
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Y.Porat" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
13 Feb 2005 12:26:01 PM |
|
|
Prime matter in motion
(circular motion)
Y.Porat
-----------------------------
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Sam Wormley" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
13 Feb 2005 08:22:52 AM |
|
|
kumar wrote:
But which is prime/basic force out of these four or what can be source
of these four fundamental forces?
http://particleadventure.org/particleadventure/frameless/chart_cutouts/particle_chart.jpg
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "kumar" |
|
| Title: Re: Can you explain prime force/energy & matter? |
13 Feb 2005 12:44:05 PM |
|
|
You have given a link which mentions details of four fundamental
forces/particles. But I want to know their one source--out of these or
other than these.
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Related Articles |
|
|
