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User:	"hanson"
Date:	20 Oct 2006 06:48:31 PM
Object:	Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance

The $$$-greed of the US Med-Pharm-FDA Complex which has
precipitated the current shameful & pitiful decline of health care
in the USA is beginning to encourage US insurance companies
to OUT-SOURCE the treatment and care of their subscribers to
"3rd world countries", in particular to India which does have state
of the art health care capabilities and facilities (ABC TV 17-Oct-06).
AFA Medical R&D advances India is pushing the frontiers now:
The Institute of Aerospace Medicine (IAM) of the Indian Air Force
and the Bangalore-based Centre for Advanced Research and
Development (CARD) have taken up clinical trials to treat patients
with osteoarthritis as well as cases in the end-stage cancers.
High-intensity magnetic resonance beams (as is done in an MRI
machine) from 288 specialised guns are focussed on a particular
tissue. In this"Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance
(RFQMR)," the beams are used to alter cell division so that the cells
either multiply or cell growth can be arrested. The new method is
free of the side effects associated with Western chemotherapy
and radiotherapy. Current state of results:
http://www.thehindu.com/2005/07/12/stories/2005071214360200.htm
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/thscrip/print.pl?file=2005071214360200.htm&date=2005/07/12/&prd=th&

What are the opinions of the Usenet members on this?
Are there any analogous developments and treatments conducted
in Western countries, in the US?
All we loudly hear in the USA are surgical successes about a few
cases of identical twin separations, but there's a deafening silence
about any care improvement for the millions and millions of our
own elderly. Even louder is the constant whining from green enviro
groups and from regulatory agencies like FDA/EPA/OSHA
about the dangers of Cellphones-, Hi-Volt power lines, etc, while
the rest of world boldly marches on to solve problems that will
bring & provide solutions.... that once were America's pride....
ahahaha... ahahahanson
.

User: "Tom Potter"
Title: Re: Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance	21 Oct 2006 12:14:10 AM

"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
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The $$$-greed of the US Med-Pharm-FDA Complex which has
precipitated the current shameful & pitiful decline of health care
in the USA is beginning to encourage US insurance companies
to OUT-SOURCE the treatment and care of their subscribers to
"3rd world countries", in particular to India which does have state
of the art health care capabilities and facilities (ABC TV 17-Oct-06).

AFA Medical R&D advances India is pushing the frontiers now:
The Institute of Aerospace Medicine (IAM) of the Indian Air Force
and the Bangalore-based Centre for Advanced Research and
Development (CARD) have taken up clinical trials to treat patients
with osteoarthritis as well as cases in the end-stage cancers.
High-intensity magnetic resonance beams (as is done in an MRI
machine) from 288 specialised guns are focussed on a particular
tissue. In this"Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance
(RFQMR)," the beams are used to alter cell division so that the cells
either multiply or cell growth can be arrested. The new method is
free of the side effects associated with Western chemotherapy
and radiotherapy. Current state of results:
http://www.thehindu.com/2005/07/12/stories/2005071214360200.htm
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/thscrip/print.pl?file=2005071214360200.htm&date=2005/07/12/&prd=th&

What are the opinions of the Usenet members on this?

Are there any analogous developments and treatments conducted
in Western countries, in the US?
All we loudly hear in the USA are surgical successes about a few
cases of identical twin separations, but there's a deafening silence
about any care improvement for the millions and millions of our
own elderly. Even louder is the constant whining from green enviro
groups and from regulatory agencies like FDA/EPA/OSHA
about the dangers of Cellphones-, Hi-Volt power lines, etc, while
the rest of world boldly marches on to solve problems that will
bring & provide solutions.... that once were America's pride....
ahahaha... ahahahanson

I saw in the news yesterday
that researchers in South Korea
had genetically modified a virus to kill cancers.
It worked on most mice,
and is going into human trial.
It is interesting to see that
although General Relativity is hyped to be
the ultimate model,
that after Newton's model,
there were immediate and rapid advances
in mechanics, astronomy, etc.
After Maxwell's model
there were immediate and rapid advances
in chemistry, electricity, etc.
After Watson's and Crick's DNA model
there were immediate and rapid advances
in medicine, genetics, animal husbandry,
the history of the Earth and Mankind, etc.
Yet we are, 100 years after General Relativity
and it continues to generate more hype and heat
than light and advances.
General Relativity is a Tower of Babel
that wastes time, money and minds on such
pursuits as time travel, worm holes, gravity waves, etc.
Can you imagine how much better the world would be
if a few of the billions spent trying to rationalize GTR,
was spent on genetic research?
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
--
Tom Potter
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User: "hanson"
Title: Re: Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance	21 Oct 2006 12:25:07 PM

"Tom Potter" <tdp1001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
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The $$$-greed of the US Med-Pharm-FDA Complex which has
precipitated the current shameful & pitiful decline of health care
in the USA is beginning to encourage US insurance companies
to OUT-SOURCE the treatment and care of their subscribers to
"3rd world countries", in particular to India which does have state
of the art health care capabilities and facilities (ABC TV 17-Oct-06).

AFA Medical R&D advances India is pushing the frontiers now:
The Institute of Aerospace Medicine (IAM) of the Indian Air Force
and the Bangalore-based Centre for Advanced Research and
Development (CARD) have taken up clinical trials to treat patients
with osteoarthritis as well as cases in the end-stage cancers.
High-intensity magnetic resonance beams (as is done in an MRI
machine) from 288 specialised guns are focussed on a particular
tissue. In this"Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance
(RFQMR)," the beams are used to alter cell division so that the cells
either multiply or cell growth can be arrested. The new method is
free of the side effects associated with Western chemotherapy
and radiotherapy. Current state of results:
http://www.thehindu.com/2005/07/12/stories/2005071214360200.htm
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/thscrip/print.pl?file=2005071214360200.htm&date=2005/07/12/&prd=th&

What are the opinions of the Usenet members on this?

Are there any analogous developments and treatments conducted
in Western countries, in the US?
All we loudly hear in the USA are surgical successes about a few
cases of identical twin separations, but there's a deafening silence
about any care improvement for the millions and millions of our
own elderly. Even louder is the constant whining from green enviro
groups and from regulatory agencies like FDA/EPA/OSHA
about the dangers of Cellphones-, Hi-Volt power lines, etc, while
the rest of world boldly marches on to solve problems that will
bring & provide solutions.... that once were America's pride....
ahahaha... ahahahanson

[Tom]

I saw in the news yesterday that researchers in South Korea
had genetically modified a virus to kill cancers.
It worked on most mice, and is going into human trial.

[hanson]
yeah, but like anything else, "the proof will be in the pudding"
However in this case I think that this SK ACvirus story may
have difficulties of getting traction for a while given the stem-cell
fraud the South Korean researcher Hwang Woo-suk perpetrated recently.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10589085/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hwang_Woo-Suk

[Tom]

It is interesting to see that although General Relativity is hyped to be
the ultimate model, that after Newton's model,
there were immediate and rapid advances
in mechanics, astronomy, etc.

After Maxwell's model there were immediate and rapid advances
in chemistry, electricity, etc.
After Watson's and Crick's DNA model there were immediate and rapid
advances in medicine, genetics, animal husbandry,
the history of the Earth and Mankind, etc.

Yet we are, 100 years after General Relativity and it continues to
generate more hype and heat than light and advances.

General Relativity is a Tower of Babel that wastes time, money and minds
on such pursuits as time travel, worm holes, gravity waves, etc.

Can you imagine how much better the world would be if a few of the
billions spent trying to rationalize GTR, was spent on
genetic research?

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

[hanson]
ahahahaha... one could play wonderful games with your last
sentence here... which too boot I think you've plagiarized from
a TV commercial that was begging for money donations for
an exclusive black college in the American deep South.
AFA REL, I do agree with you on the pathology of GTR and
especially its overselling and hyping when there is noting
beneficial that came out of it, except for you and other rational
people to have fun in kicking and ridiculing it, ... justifiably so.
But then, Tom, different strokes for different folks and those
Einstein Dingleberries just love to be near their idol's sphincter.
ahahahaha... ahahahanson

--
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User: "Sorcerer"
Title: Re: Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance	20 Oct 2006 09:12:44 PM

"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
news:jfd_g.2763$A27.417@trnddc08...
| The $$$-greed of the US Med-Pharm-FDA Complex which has
| precipitated the current shameful & pitiful decline of health care
| in the USA is beginning to encourage US insurance companies
| to OUT-SOURCE the treatment and care of their subscribers to
| "3rd world countries", in particular to India which does have state
| of the art health care capabilities and facilities (ABC TV 17-Oct-06).
|
| AFA Medical R&D advances India is pushing the frontiers now:
| The Institute of Aerospace Medicine (IAM) of the Indian Air Force
| and the Bangalore-based Centre for Advanced Research and
| Development (CARD) have taken up clinical trials to treat patients
| with osteoarthritis as well as cases in the end-stage cancers.
| High-intensity magnetic resonance beams (as is done in an MRI
| machine) from 288 specialised guns are focussed on a particular
| tissue. In this"Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance
| (RFQMR)," the beams are used to alter cell division so that the cells
| either multiply or cell growth can be arrested. The new method is
| free of the side effects associated with Western chemotherapy
| and radiotherapy. Current state of results:
| http://www.thehindu.com/2005/07/12/stories/2005071214360200.htm
|
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/thscrip/print.pl?file=2005071214360200.htm&date=2005/07/12/&prd=th&
| >
| What are the opinions of the Usenet members on this?
33% of Indians still cannot read. When I was there in 1983-4
leprosy was still common. I'll put up with the greed of the few
in the West over the greed of the few in the East anyday. As for
chemotherapy, my daughter died 14 hours after ingesting the
start of the third course. Maybe the first course prolonged her
life, but the second course robbed her of her hair and the third
killed her early. If it ever comes to me, I'm not taking anything
after the first course. What I want (but won't get) is a solution
to death. I can map the path, but I can't do the research.
Have a laser dissect a rat's brain and build a mathematical
model (neural network) that duplicates every neuron, every
synapse. Then see if a computer can behave like a rat.
Next stage...
Have the rat learn a maze, and then afterwards see if the
computer knows the same maze. Do that and you'll have
eternity on backup. You can have my brain when I'm done
with it, just give me my mind back.
Androcles
|
| Are there any analogous developments and treatments conducted
| in Western countries, in the US?
| All we loudly hear in the USA are surgical successes about a few
| cases of identical twin separations, but there's a deafening silence
| about any care improvement for the millions and millions of our
| own elderly. Even louder is the constant whining from green enviro
| groups and from regulatory agencies like FDA/EPA/OSHA
| about the dangers of Cellphones-, Hi-Volt power lines, etc, while
| the rest of world boldly marches on to solve problems that will
| bring & provide solutions.... that once were America's pride....
| ahahaha... ahahahanson
|
|
|
.

User: "hanson"
Title: Re: Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance	20 Oct 2006 10:17:00 PM

"Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b> wrote in message
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"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/8ac74c4d9a604029

| The $$$-greed of the US Med-Pharm-FDA Complex which has
| precipitated the current shameful & pitiful decline of health care
| in the USA is beginning to encourage US insurance companies
| to OUT-SOURCE the treatment and care of their subscribers to
| "3rd world countries", in particular to India which does have state
| of the art health care capabilities and facilities (ABC TV 17-Oct-06).
|
| AFA Medical R&D advances India is pushing the frontiers now:
| The Institute of Aerospace Medicine (IAM) of the Indian Air Force
| and the Bangalore-based Centre for Advanced Research and
| Development (CARD) have taken up clinical trials to treat patients
| with osteoarthritis as well as cases in the end-stage cancers.
| High-intensity magnetic resonance beams (as is done in an MRI
| machine) from 288 specialised guns are focussed on a particular
| tissue. In this"Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance
| (RFQMR)," the beams are used to alter cell division so that the cells
| either multiply or cell growth can be arrested. The new method is
| free of the side effects associated with Western chemotherapy
| and radiotherapy. Current state of results:
http://www.thehindu.com/2005/07/12/stories/2005071214360200.htm
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/thscrip/print.pl?file=2005071214360200.htm&date=2005/07/12/&prd=th&
| >
| What are the opinions of the Usenet members on this?

[Andro]

33% of Indians still cannot read. When I was there in 1983-4
leprosy was still common. I'll put up with the greed of the few
in the West over the greed of the few in the East anyday.

[Andro]

As for
chemotherapy, my daughter died 14 hours after ingesting the
start of the third course. Maybe the first course prolonged her
life, but the second course robbed her of her hair and the third
killed her early. If it ever comes to me, I'm not taking anything
after the first course.

[hanson]
That's odd. Last year one of my employees, 44, lung cancer
spread into brain, did die exactly the under the same conditions,
2 days after his 3rd course's start. Does that event sequence
occur often? If so then why is that regimen used?

[Andro]

What I want (but won't get) is a solution
to death. I can map the path, but I can't do the research.
Have a laser dissect a rat's brain and build a mathematical
model (neural network) that duplicates every neuron, every
synapse. Then see if a computer can behave like a rat.
Next stage...
Have the rat learn a maze, and then afterwards see if the
computer knows the same maze. Do that and you'll have
eternity on backup. You can have my brain when I'm done
with it, just give me my mind back.
Androcles

[hanson]

| Are there any analogous developments and treatments conducted
| in Western countries, in the US, comparable to this Indian one?
| http://www.thehindu.com/2005/07/12/stories/2005071214360200.htm
| All we loudly hear in the USA are surgical successes about a few
| cases of identical twin separations, but there's a deafening silence
| about any care improvement for the millions and millions of our
| own elderly. Even louder is the constant whining from green enviro
| groups and from regulatory agencies like FDA/EPA/OSHA
| about the dangers of Cellphones-, Hi-Volt power lines, etc, while
| the rest of world boldly marches on to solve problems that will
| bring & provide solutions.... that once were America's pride....
| ahahaha... ahahahanson
|
|
|

User: "Sorcerer"
Title: Re: Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance	20 Oct 2006 11:34:24 PM

"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message news:Mig_g.89$LA.45@trnddc06...
| "Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b> wrote in message
| news:wmf_g.7250$lT5.2385@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
| >
| > "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
| > news:jfd_g.2763$A27.417@trnddc08...
| http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/8ac74c4d9a604029
| > | The $$$-greed of the US Med-Pharm-FDA Complex which has
| > | precipitated the current shameful & pitiful decline of health care
| > | in the USA is beginning to encourage US insurance companies
| > | to OUT-SOURCE the treatment and care of their subscribers to
| > | "3rd world countries", in particular to India which does have state
| > | of the art health care capabilities and facilities (ABC TV 17-Oct-06).
| > |
| > | AFA Medical R&D advances India is pushing the frontiers now:
| > | The Institute of Aerospace Medicine (IAM) of the Indian Air Force
| > | and the Bangalore-based Centre for Advanced Research and
| > | Development (CARD) have taken up clinical trials to treat patients
| > | with osteoarthritis as well as cases in the end-stage cancers.
| > | High-intensity magnetic resonance beams (as is done in an MRI
| > | machine) from 288 specialised guns are focussed on a particular
| > | tissue. In this"Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance
| > | (RFQMR)," the beams are used to alter cell division so that the cells
| > | either multiply or cell growth can be arrested. The new method is
| > | free of the side effects associated with Western chemotherapy
| > | and radiotherapy. Current state of results:
| > http://www.thehindu.com/2005/07/12/stories/2005071214360200.htm
| >
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/thscrip/print.pl?file=2005071214360200.htm&date=2005/07/12/&prd=th&
| > | >
| > | What are the opinions of the Usenet members on this?
| >
| [Andro]
| > 33% of Indians still cannot read. When I was there in 1983-4
| > leprosy was still common. I'll put up with the greed of the few
| > in the West over the greed of the few in the East anyday.
| >
| [Andro]
| > As for
| > chemotherapy, my daughter died 14 hours after ingesting the
| > start of the third course. Maybe the first course prolonged her
| > life, but the second course robbed her of her hair and the third
| > killed her early. If it ever comes to me, I'm not taking anything
| > after the first course.
| >
| [hanson]
| That's odd. Last year one of my employees, 44, lung cancer
| spread into brain, did die exactly the under the same conditions,
| 2 days after his 3rd course's start. Does that event sequence
| occur often? If so then why is that regimen used?
I think it's a euthanasia drug that nobody will admit to.
With hindsight it was merciful, but my daughter certainly
didn't agree to it. She was told by one oncologist that it was a
matter of weeks, I was with her when she saw the second that
prescribed it. All he did was offer hope for a little longer, and
spouted warnings about it causing constipation. And I'd said
"Be brutally honest". He wasn't, but he showed reluctance in
giving it to her. We were groping at any straw, of course.
She was in the process of making her will, it would have been
signed before witnesses in another day or so. I doubt she'd
have lasted anothe month without it, but I'm convinced it
finished her prematurely.
| >
| [Andro]
| > What I want (but won't get) is a solution
| > to death. I can map the path, but I can't do the research.
| > Have a laser dissect a rat's brain and build a mathematical
| > model (neural network) that duplicates every neuron, every
| > synapse. Then see if a computer can behave like a rat.
| > Next stage...
| > Have the rat learn a maze, and then afterwards see if the
| > computer knows the same maze. Do that and you'll have
| > eternity on backup. You can have my brain when I'm done
| > with it, just give me my mind back.
| > Androcles
| >
| [hanson]
| > | Are there any analogous developments and treatments conducted
| > | in Western countries, in the US, comparable to this Indian one?
| > | http://www.thehindu.com/2005/07/12/stories/2005071214360200.htm
| > | All we loudly hear in the USA are surgical successes about a few
| > | cases of identical twin separations, but there's a deafening silence
| > | about any care improvement for the millions and millions of our
| > | own elderly. Even louder is the constant whining from green enviro
| > | groups and from regulatory agencies like FDA/EPA/OSHA
| > | about the dangers of Cellphones-, Hi-Volt power lines, etc, while
| > | the rest of world boldly marches on to solve problems that will
| > | bring & provide solutions.... that once were America's pride....
| > | ahahaha... ahahahanson
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
|
.

User: "Twittering One"
Title: Re: Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance	20 Oct 2006 10:25:21 PM

One course of chemo may offer "paliative" results,
eg, relief of pain, through tumor-size remission,
but not halt or reverse the cancer progression.
A problem with chemo, if underdosed,
is that the cancer cells too easily develop,
eg, mutate, resistance to the toxic treatment.
So the chemo is not used to optimum results.
Chemo may slow, halt, or reverse tumor size.
In the best scenario, chemo should reverse
the tumor size.
Clearly, an issue of appropriate callibration
regarding toxic side effects, based on the
patient's status.
.

User: "Kent Paul Dolan"
Title: Re: Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance	22 Oct 2006 04:07:07 AM

hanson wrote:

That's odd. Last year one of my employees, 44,
lung cancer spread into brain, did die exactly the
under the same conditions, 2 days after his 3rd
course's start. Does that event sequence occur
often? If so then why is that regimen used?

It helps to understand what _any_ treatment of
cancer is, including surgery: an attempt to kill the
diseased cells without at the same time killing the
patient containing them, when potentially lethal
force is applied to both due to no known way to
apply that force to just the cancer cells.
In the course of chemotherapy, the goal is to take
advantage of the fast replication rate of cancer
cells, damage them in ways that will kill them if
they divide before they can repair the damage (which
most body cells can eventually do).
However, other parts of the human body are _also_
undergoing rapid cell division, in particular the
lining of the gut, the producers of white and red
blood cells, and probably the lining of the lung.
It is an exquisite balancing act, and a gamble, to
kill the cancer without killing enough of these
other vulnerable, fast dividing parts of the body
to kill the whole patient. Sometimes, that gamble
is lost, on balance, or the regimen would be
changed, it is won more often than it is lost. If
the doctors are following ethical guidelines, the
risk is explained to the patient in advance and the
patient knowingly agrees to that "third course of
chemo".
Life comes with no guarantee of eternity, so it is
no surprise that each of us eventually loses the
attempt to live forever. Having cancer makes your
near term odds a whole lot worse, that's all.
HTH
xanthian, once married to a long time cancer patient
(incurable but sometimes survivable "mycosis
fungoides") for all 14 years of our marriage, is why
I know this stuff.
.

User: "Sorcerer"
Title: Re: Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance	22 Oct 2006 06:12:07 AM

"Kent Paul Dolan" <xanthian@well.com> wrote in message
news:1161508027.182640.78900@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
| hanson wrote:
|
| > That's odd. Last year one of my employees, 44,
| > lung cancer spread into brain, did die exactly the
| > under the same conditions, 2 days after his 3rd
| > course's start. Does that event sequence occur
| > often? If so then why is that regimen used?
|
| It helps to understand what _any_ treatment of
| cancer is, including surgery: an attempt to kill the
| diseased cells without at the same time killing the
| patient containing them, when potentially lethal
| force is applied to both due to no known way to
| apply that force to just the cancer cells.
|
| In the course of chemotherapy, the goal is to take
| advantage of the fast replication rate of cancer
| cells, damage them in ways that will kill them if
| they divide before they can repair the damage (which
| most body cells can eventually do).
|
| However, other parts of the human body are _also_
| undergoing rapid cell division, in particular the
| lining of the gut, the producers of white and red
| blood cells, and probably the lining of the lung.
|
| It is an exquisite balancing act, and a gamble, to
| kill the cancer without killing enough of these
| other vulnerable, fast dividing parts of the body
| to kill the whole patient. Sometimes, that gamble
| is lost, on balance, or the regimen would be
| changed, it is won more often than it is lost. If
| the doctors are following ethical guidelines, the
| risk is explained to the patient in advance and the
| patient knowingly agrees to that "third course of
| chemo".
|
| Life comes with no guarantee of eternity, so it is
| no surprise that each of us eventually loses the
| attempt to live forever. Having cancer makes your
| near term odds a whole lot worse, that's all.
Simple logic dictates that since we can't keep body and soul together
for more than a few years no matter what we do, we should be striving
for a more robust vehicle for the soul instead of patching up the body.
Androcles
I think, therefore I am - Rene Descartes.
|
| HTH
|
| xanthian, once married to a long time cancer patient
| (incurable but sometimes survivable "mycosis
| fungoides") for all 14 years of our marriage, is why
| I know this stuff.
|
.

User: "Dirk Van de moortel"
Title: Re: Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance	22 Oct 2006 06:42:27 AM

"Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b> wrote in message news:bmI_g.5088$3x1.2919@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

"Kent Paul Dolan" <xanthian@well.com> wrote in message
news:1161508027.182640.78900@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
| hanson wrote:
|
| > That's odd. Last year one of my employees, 44,
| > lung cancer spread into brain, did die exactly the
| > under the same conditions, 2 days after his 3rd
| > course's start. Does that event sequence occur
| > often? If so then why is that regimen used?
|
| It helps to understand what _any_ treatment of
| cancer is, including surgery: an attempt to kill the
| diseased cells without at the same time killing the
| patient containing them, when potentially lethal
| force is applied to both due to no known way to
| apply that force to just the cancer cells.
|
| In the course of chemotherapy, the goal is to take
| advantage of the fast replication rate of cancer
| cells, damage them in ways that will kill them if
| they divide before they can repair the damage (which
| most body cells can eventually do).
|
| However, other parts of the human body are _also_
| undergoing rapid cell division, in particular the
| lining of the gut, the producers of white and red
| blood cells, and probably the lining of the lung.
|
| It is an exquisite balancing act, and a gamble, to
| kill the cancer without killing enough of these
| other vulnerable, fast dividing parts of the body
| to kill the whole patient. Sometimes, that gamble
| is lost, on balance, or the regimen would be
| changed, it is won more often than it is lost. If
| the doctors are following ethical guidelines, the
| risk is explained to the patient in advance and the
| patient knowingly agrees to that "third course of
| chemo".
|
| Life comes with no guarantee of eternity, so it is
| no surprise that each of us eventually loses the
| attempt to live forever. Having cancer makes your
| near term odds a whole lot worse, that's all.

Simple logic dictates that since we can't keep body and soul together
for more than a few years no matter what we do, we should be striving
for a more robust vehicle for the soul instead of patching up the body.
Androcles
I think, therefore I am - Rene Descartes.

Sorcerer Androcles, in the process of using simple logic:
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Gibberish.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XOROnceMore.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORrevisited.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORContinued.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORpersistence.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/LooksBoolean.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORWildStab.html
Dirk Vdm
.

User: "Sorcerer"
Title: Re: Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance	22 Oct 2006 06:48:33 AM

"Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoortel@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> wrote
in message news:DOI_g.142647$w56.2453624@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
|
| "Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b> wrote in message
news:bmI_g.5088$3x1.2919@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
| >
| > "Kent Paul Dolan" <xanthian@well.com> wrote in message
| > news:1161508027.182640.78900@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
| > | hanson wrote:
| > |
| > | > That's odd. Last year one of my employees, 44,
| > | > lung cancer spread into brain, did die exactly the
| > | > under the same conditions, 2 days after his 3rd
| > | > course's start. Does that event sequence occur
| > | > often? If so then why is that regimen used?
| > |
| > | It helps to understand what _any_ treatment of
| > | cancer is, including surgery: an attempt to kill the
| > | diseased cells without at the same time killing the
| > | patient containing them, when potentially lethal
| > | force is applied to both due to no known way to
| > | apply that force to just the cancer cells.
| > |
| > | In the course of chemotherapy, the goal is to take
| > | advantage of the fast replication rate of cancer
| > | cells, damage them in ways that will kill them if
| > | they divide before they can repair the damage (which
| > | most body cells can eventually do).
| > |
| > | However, other parts of the human body are _also_
| > | undergoing rapid cell division, in particular the
| > | lining of the gut, the producers of white and red
| > | blood cells, and probably the lining of the lung.
| > |
| > | It is an exquisite balancing act, and a gamble, to
| > | kill the cancer without killing enough of these
| > | other vulnerable, fast dividing parts of the body
| > | to kill the whole patient. Sometimes, that gamble
| > | is lost, on balance, or the regimen would be
| > | changed, it is won more often than it is lost. If
| > | the doctors are following ethical guidelines, the
| > | risk is explained to the patient in advance and the
| > | patient knowingly agrees to that "third course of
| > | chemo".
| > |
| > | Life comes with no guarantee of eternity, so it is
| > | no surprise that each of us eventually loses the
| > | attempt to live forever. Having cancer makes your
| > | near term odds a whole lot worse, that's all.
| >
| >
| > Simple logic dictates that since we can't keep body and soul together
| > for more than a few years no matter what we do, we should be striving
| > for a more robust vehicle for the soul instead of patching up the body.
| > Androcles
| > I think, therefore I am - Rene Descartes.
|
| Sorcerer Androcles, in the process of using simple logic:
| http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Gibberish.html
| http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XOROnceMore.html
| http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORrevisited.html
| http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORContinued.html
|
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORpersistence.html
| http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/LooksBoolean.html
| http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORWildStab.html
|
| Dirk Vdm
How old are you?
.

User: "hanson"
Title: Re: Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance	22 Oct 2006 11:40:39 AM

Dirk,
You trying to be humorous is one thing....BUT...
....what you did here in the context of this discussion
is despicable. There are some folks here who are
airing very serious issues that are anything but funny.
So, try not to be so fucking gauche, dude, even if it is the
Usenet. Try to curtail your "Fumble bible" to regular themes.
Don't be an embarrassment to your Belgian Landsmen.
hanson

"Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoortel@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> wrote
in message
news:DOI_g.142647$w56.2453624@phobos.telenet-ops.be...

"Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b> wrote in message
news:bmI_g.5088$3x1.2919@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

[Kent]

| It helps to understand what _any_ treatment of
| cancer is, including surgery: an attempt to kill the
| diseased cells without at the same time killing the
| patient containing them, when potentially lethal
| force is applied to both due to no known way to
| apply that force to just the cancer cells.
|
| In the course of chemotherapy, the goal is to take
| advantage of the fast replication rate of cancer
| cells, damage them in ways that will kill them if
| they divide before they can repair the damage (which
| most body cells can eventually do).
|
| However, other parts of the human body are _also_
| undergoing rapid cell division, in particular the
| lining of the gut, the producers of white and red
| blood cells, and probably the lining of the lung.
|
| It is an exquisite balancing act, and a gamble, to
| kill the cancer without killing enough of these
| other vulnerable, fast dividing parts of the body
| to kill the whole patient. Sometimes, that gamble
| is lost, on balance, or the regimen would be
| changed, it is won more often than it is lost. If
| the doctors are following ethical guidelines, the
| risk is explained to the patient in advance and the
| patient knowingly agrees to that "third course of
| chemo".
| Life comes with no guarantee of eternity, so it is
| no surprise that each of us eventually loses the
| attempt to live forever. Having cancer makes your
| near term odds a whole lot worse, that's all.

[Andro]

Simple logic dictates that since we can't keep body and soul together
for more than a few years no matter what we do, we should be striving
for a more robust vehicle for the soul instead of patching up the body.
Androcles
I think, therefore I am - Rene Descartes.

[Dirk Vdm]

Sorcerer Androcles, in the process of using simple logic:
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Gibberish.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XOROnceMore.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORrevisited.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORContinued.html

http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORpersistence.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/LooksBoolean.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORWildStab.html

Dirk Vdm

User: "Sorcerer"
Title: Re: Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance	22 Oct 2006 12:17:26 PM

I've said it before, Dork's not just a troll, not just an idiot, he's a
psychopath.
Etymology: International Scientific Vocabulary
: a mentally ill or unstable person; especially : a person affected with
antisocial personality disorder
"In current clinical use, psychopathy is most commonly diagnosed using
Robert D. Hare's Psychopathy Checklist-Revised
1.. Glibness/superficial charm
2.. Grandiose sense of self-worth
3.. Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
4.. Pathological lying
5.. Conning/manipulative
6.. Lack of remorse or guilt
7.. Shallow affect
8.. Callous/lack of empathy
9.. Parasitic lifestyle
10.. Poor behavioral controls
11.. Promiscuous sexual behavior
12.. Early behavioral problems
13.. Lack of realistic, long-term goals
14.. Impulsivity
15.. Irresponsibility
16.. Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
17.. Many short-term marital relationships
18.. Juvenile delinquency
19.. Revocation of conditional release
20.. Criminal versatility
Hare describes psychopaths as "intraspecies predators who use charm,
manipulation, intimidation, and violence to control others and to satisfy
their own selfish needs. Lacking in conscience and in feelings for others,
they cold-bloodedly take what they want and do as they please, violating
social norms and expectations without the slightest sense of guilt or
regret."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopath
He's frustrated because he can't control me and it can't come to violence,
I'm kind to animals.
In other words calling him a ***** would be an insult to his raped
grandmother.
Androcles
"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
news:baN_g.3246$fA.2192@trnddc05...
| Dirk,
| You trying to be humorous is one thing....BUT...
| ...what you did here in the context of this discussion
| is despicable. There are some folks here who are
| airing very serious issues that are anything but funny.
| So, try not to be so fucking gauche, dude, even if it is the
| Usenet. Try to curtail your "Fumble bible" to regular themes.
| Don't be an embarrassment to your Belgian Landsmen.
| hanson
| >
| "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoortel@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> wrote
| in message
| news:DOI_g.142647$w56.2453624@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
| >
| > "Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b> wrote in message
| > news:bmI_g.5088$3x1.2919@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
| >>
| >> "Kent Paul Dolan" <xanthian@well.com> wrote in message
| >> news:1161508027.182640.78900@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
| >> | hanson wrote:
| >> |
| >> | > That's odd. Last year one of my employees, 44,
| >> | > lung cancer spread into brain, did die exactly the
| >> | > under the same conditions, 2 days after his 3rd
| >> | > course's start. Does that event sequence occur
| >> | > often? If so then why is that regimen used?
| >> |
| [Kent]
| >> | It helps to understand what _any_ treatment of
| >> | cancer is, including surgery: an attempt to kill the
| >> | diseased cells without at the same time killing the
| >> | patient containing them, when potentially lethal
| >> | force is applied to both due to no known way to
| >> | apply that force to just the cancer cells.
| >> |
| >> | In the course of chemotherapy, the goal is to take
| >> | advantage of the fast replication rate of cancer
| >> | cells, damage them in ways that will kill them if
| >> | they divide before they can repair the damage (which
| >> | most body cells can eventually do).
| >> |
| >> | However, other parts of the human body are _also_
| >> | undergoing rapid cell division, in particular the
| >> | lining of the gut, the producers of white and red
| >> | blood cells, and probably the lining of the lung.
| >> |
| >> | It is an exquisite balancing act, and a gamble, to
| >> | kill the cancer without killing enough of these
| >> | other vulnerable, fast dividing parts of the body
| >> | to kill the whole patient. Sometimes, that gamble
| >> | is lost, on balance, or the regimen would be
| >> | changed, it is won more often than it is lost. If
| >> | the doctors are following ethical guidelines, the
| >> | risk is explained to the patient in advance and the
| >> | patient knowingly agrees to that "third course of
| >> | chemo".
| >> | Life comes with no guarantee of eternity, so it is
| >> | no surprise that each of us eventually loses the
| >> | attempt to live forever. Having cancer makes your
| >> | near term odds a whole lot worse, that's all.
| >>
| [Andro]
| >> Simple logic dictates that since we can't keep body and soul together
| >> for more than a few years no matter what we do, we should be striving
| >> for a more robust vehicle for the soul instead of patching up the body.
| >> Androcles
| >> I think, therefore I am - Rene Descartes.
| >
| [Dirk Vdm]
| > Sorcerer Androcles, in the process of using simple logic:
| > http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Gibberish.html
| > http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XOROnceMore.html
| >
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORrevisited.html
| >
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORContinued.html
| >
| >
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORpersistence.html
| >
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/LooksBoolean.html
| > http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORWildStab.html
| >
| > Dirk Vdm
| >
|
|
|
|
.

User: "Dirk Van de moortel"
Title: Re: Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance	22 Oct 2006 01:11:21 PM

"Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b> wrote in message news:GIN_g.25515$3D1.11399@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

I've said it before, Dork's not just a troll, not just an idiot, he's a
psychopath.

[snip remainder of imbecile top-post]

"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
news:baN_g.3246$fA.2192@trnddc05...
| Dirk,
| You trying to be humorous is one thing....BUT...
| ...what you did here in the context of this discussion
| is despicable. There are some folks here who are
| airing very serious issues that are anything but funny.

Exceptionally, to Hyena Hanson:
I find Androcles using the words "simple logic" and quoting
Descartes *extremely* funny, so I hadn't even looked at the
lines he was responding to, nor at the list of newsgroups.
It does not make sense to look at the lines Androcles responds
to. Androcles does not understand lines he responds to.
Androcles is arrogant and dumb, very arrogant and very dumb...

| So, try not to be so fucking gauche, dude, even if it is the
| Usenet. Try to curtail your "Fumble bible" to regular themes.
| Don't be an embarrassment to your Belgian Landsmen.
| hanson

.... but obviously you are even dumber.
I "curtail" my fumble list to funny arrogant ignorants like
Androcles. Psychotic Hyenas like yourself don't even qualify :-)
Dirk Vdm
[followup set to more appropriate newsgroups]
.

User: "Sorcerer"
Title: Re: Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance	22 Oct 2006 01:51:54 PM

"Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoortel@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> wrote
in message news:dvO_g.143149$tN.2054252@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
|
| "Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b> wrote in message
news:GIN_g.25515$3D1.11399@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
| > I've said it before, Dork's not just a troll, not just an idiot, he's a
| > psychopath.
|
| [snip remainder of imbecile top-post]
http://magazyn-nova.webpark.pl/head_up_arse2.jpg
[restore post]
Etymology: International Scientific Vocabulary
: a mentally ill or unstable person; especially : a person affected with
antisocial personality disorder
"In current clinical use, psychopathy is most commonly diagnosed using
Robert D. Hare's Psychopathy Checklist-Revised
1.. Glibness/superficial charm
2.. Grandiose sense of self-worth
3.. Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
4.. Pathological lying
5.. Conning/manipulative
6.. Lack of remorse or guilt
7.. Shallow affect
8.. Callous/lack of empathy
9.. Parasitic lifestyle
10.. Poor behavioral controls
11.. Promiscuous sexual behavior
12.. Early behavioral problems
13.. Lack of realistic, long-term goals
14.. Impulsivity
15.. Irresponsibility
16.. Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
17.. Many short-term marital relationships
18.. Juvenile delinquency
19.. Revocation of conditional release
20.. Criminal versatility
Hare describes psychopaths as "intraspecies predators who use charm,
manipulation, intimidation, and violence to control others and to satisfy
their own selfish needs. Lacking in conscience and in feelings for others,
they cold-bloodedly take what they want and do as they please, violating
social norms and expectations without the slightest sense of guilt or
regret."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopath
He's frustrated because he can't control me and it can't come to violence,
I'm kind to animals.
In other words calling him a ***** would be an insult to his raped
grandmother.
Androcles
.

User: "hanson"
Title: Re: Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance	22 Oct 2006 03:05:10 PM

Well, low class as you, the confessed NO-Sperm VD Dirk, are
perhaps your gauche humor attempt may bring some smiles to
a few grief stricken people, making them realize that they are
by far not in such a bad mental condition as you are, because:
VD aka "Dirk Van de moortel", the self-labeled "Third Kacksacker"
and the self-anointed *** moron, local.village.idiot and troll ***
<dirkvandemoortel@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> cranked
himself news:dvO_g.143149$tN.2054252@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
and cajoled:
::: [follow-up set to more appropriate newsgroups] [= Dirk's home at:]
::: alt.morons,alt.local.village.idiot,alt.troll
where VD Dirk can been seen at work kacksackering away:
http://home.tiscali.be/stebune/Animal_files/elephant-*****-patrol.jpg
http://www.thesidewaysguide.com/Images/Skate/SkateFeatures/SkateLists...

"Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b> wrote in message

news:GIN_g.25515$3D1.11399@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

I've said it before, Dork's not just a troll, not just an idiot, he's a
psychopath.

[VD]

[snip remainder of imbecile top-post]

[Andro]
[Andro de-snipped and re-stated in short that]
Dork's not just a troll, not just an idiot, he's a psychopath.
The Int. Sci. Voc. describes VD Dork as being
<dirkvandemoortel @ ThankS-***NO-SperM***.hotmail.com>
http://magazyn-nova.webpark.pl/head_up_arse2.jpg
a mentally ill or unstable person; especially a person affected
with antisocial personality disorders, diagnosed and most
succinctly showing that VD suffers amongst other maladies from:
2.. Grandiose sense of self-worth
3.. Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
8.. Callous/lack of empathy
10.. Poor behavioral controls
11..and of course his incessant habit of compulsive kackskackering.

[hanson]
Hey, Dirk, you poor guy, that is some baggage you are carrying.

[hanson]

[VD]

[hanson]
But VD see, that confession of yours here shows exactly your
problem as diagnosed above under 2, 3, 8, 10 & 11... ahahaha...

[hanson]

| So, try not to be so fucking gauche, dude, even if it is the
| Usenet. Try to curtail your "Fumble bible" to regular themes.
| Don't be an embarrassment to your Belgian Landsmen.
| hanson

[VD]

... but obviously you are even dumber.
I "curtail" my fumble list to funny arrogant ignorants like
Androcles. Psychotic Hyenas like yourself don't even qualify :-)
Dirk Vdm

[hanson]
..... ahahaha... on top of your manifest symptoms 2, 3, 8, 10 & 11,
VD, it is obvious that you cranked yourself enormously for having
been caught with your pants down. Don't be so transparent
when you expose your self so indecently, VD.
But thanks for the laughs, VD... ahahahaha.... ahahahanson
.

User: "Sorcerer"
Title: Re: Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance	22 Oct 2006 05:20:33 PM

User: "Art Deco"
Title: Re: Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance	23 Oct 2006 07:48:01 PM

hanson <hanson@quick.net> wrote:

Well, low class as you, the confessed NO-Sperm VD Dirk, are
perhaps your gauche humor attempt may bring some smiles to
a few grief stricken people, making them realize that they are
by far not in such a bad mental condition as you are, because:

VD aka "Dirk Van de moortel", the self-labeled "Third Kacksacker"
and the self-anointed *** moron, local.village.idiot and troll ***
<dirkvandemoortel@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> cranked
himself news:dvO_g.143149$tN.2054252@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
and cajoled:
::: [follow-up set to more appropriate newsgroups] [= Dirk's home at:]
::: alt.morons,alt.local.village.idiot,alt.troll
where VD Dirk can been seen at work kacksackering away:
http://home.tiscali.be/stebune/Animal_files/elephant-*****-patrol.jpg
http://www.thesidewaysguide.com/Images/Skate/SkateFeatures/SkateLists...

"Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b> wrote in message

news:GIN_g.25515$3D1.11399@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

I've said it before, Dork's not just a troll, not just an idiot, he's a
psychopath.

[VD]

[snip remainder of imbecile top-post]

[hanson]
Hey, Dirk, you poor guy, that is some baggage you are carrying.

[hanson]

[VD]

[hanson]
But VD see, that confession of yours here shows exactly your
problem as diagnosed above under 2, 3, 8, 10 & 11... ahahaha...

[hanson]

| So, try not to be so fucking gauche, dude, even if it is the
| Usenet. Try to curtail your "Fumble bible" to regular themes.
| Don't be an embarrassment to your Belgian Landsmen.
| hanson

[VD]

... but obviously you are even dumber.
I "curtail" my fumble list to funny arrogant ignorants like
Androcles. Psychotic Hyenas like yourself don't even qualify :-)
Dirk Vdm

[hanson]
.... ahahaha... on top of your manifest symptoms 2, 3, 8, 10 & 11,
VD, it is obvious that you cranked yourself enormously for having
been caught with your pants down. Don't be so transparent
when you expose your self so indecently, VD.
But thanks for the laughs, VD... ahahahaha.... ahahahanson

Now *this* is a proper campaign speech for the Goofy Azzed Babboon,
[hanson].
Support newsgroup snecked.
--
COOSN-266-06-39716
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads in alt.astronomy
Official "Usenet psychopath and born-again LLPOF minion",
as designated by Brad Guth
Hi, fanbois!
.

User: "Tom Potter"
Title: Re: Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance	26 Oct 2006 07:29:28 PM

"Art Deco" <erfc@netcabal.com> wrote in message
news:231020061848018317%erfc@netcabal.com...

hanson <hanson@quick.net> wrote:

Well, low class as you, the confessed NO-Sperm VD Dirk, are
perhaps your gauche humor attempt may bring some smiles to
a few grief stricken people, making them realize that they are
by far not in such a bad mental condition as you are, because:

VD aka "Dirk Van de moortel", the self-labeled "Third Kacksacker"
and the self-anointed *** moron, local.village.idiot and troll ***
<dirkvandemoortel@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> cranked
himself news:dvO_g.143149$tN.2054252@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
and cajoled:
::: [follow-up set to more appropriate newsgroups] [= Dirk's home at:]
::: alt.morons,alt.local.village.idiot,alt.troll
where VD Dirk can been seen at work kacksackering away:
http://home.tiscali.be/stebune/Animal_files/elephant-*****-patrol.jpg
http://www.thesidewaysguide.com/Images/Skate/SkateFeatures/SkateLists...

"Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b> wrote in message

news:GIN_g.25515$3D1.11399@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

I've said it before, Dork's not just a troll, not just an idiot, he's a
psychopath.

[VD]

[snip remainder of imbecile top-post]

[hanson]
Hey, Dirk, you poor guy, that is some baggage you are carrying.

[hanson]

[VD]

[hanson]
But VD see, that confession of yours here shows exactly your
problem as diagnosed above under 2, 3, 8, 10 & 11... ahahaha...

[hanson]

| So, try not to be so fucking gauche, dude, even if it is the
| Usenet. Try to curtail your "Fumble bible" to regular themes.
| Don't be an embarrassment to your Belgian Landsmen.
| hanson

[VD]

... but obviously you are even dumber.
I "curtail" my fumble list to funny arrogant ignorants like
Androcles. Psychotic Hyenas like yourself don't even qualify :-)
Dirk Vdm

Now *this* is a proper campaign speech for the Goofy Azzed Babboon,
[hanson].

Support newsgroup snecked.

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Hanson, I suggest that you are dead on,
with your psychological analysis of Dork moortel.
"a mentally ill or unstable person; especially a person affected
with antisocial personality disorders, diagnosed and most
succinctly showing that VD suffers amongst other maladies from:
Grandiose sense of self-worth
Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
Callous/lack of empathy
Poor behavioral controls"
and I suggest that the URL below provides
a good discussion of the particular defense mechanism
used by Art Deco.
I think that Art is (Was?) basically a good person,
who came into the newsgroups,
and like many others, wanted to make a contribution,
but he couldn't handle the rejection, so he did a 180.
(Adopted the "reaction formation" defense mechanism.)
One could feel sorry for the psycho's and neurotics,
if they respected the science newsgroups,
and they confined their silly, immature trash
to the newsgroups set up for adolescents and neurotics.
Hopefully Art Deco with study "reaction formation",
think about it, heal himself, and leave the "Dark Side".
There is no cure for people like Dork moortel,
short of a frontal lobotomy.
http://changingminds.org/explanations/behaviors/coping/reaction_formation.htm
"Reaction Formation
==============
Description
Reaction Formation occurs when a person feels an urge to do or say something
and then actually does or says something that is effectively the opposite of
what they really want. It also appears as a defense against a feared social
punishment. If I fear that I will be criticized for something, I very
visibly act in a way that shows I am personally a long way from the feared
position.
A common pattern in Reaction Formation is where the person uses 'excessive
behavior', for example using exaggerated friendliness when the person is
actually feeling unfriendly.
Example
A person who is angry with a colleague actually ends up being particularly
courteous and friendly towards them.
A man who is gay has a number of conspicuous heterosexual affairs and openly
criticizes gays.
A mother who has a child she does not want becomes very protective of the
child.
An alcoholic extols the virtues of abstinence.
Discussion
A cause of Reaction Formation is when a person seeks to cover up something
unacceptable by adopting an opposite stance. For example the gay person who
has heterosexually promiscuous may be concealing their homosexual reality.
This may be a conscious concealment but also may well occur at the
subconscious level such that they do not realize the real cause of their
behavior. Reaction Formation thus can turn homosexual tendencies (love men)
to homophobic ones (hate men).
Freud called the exaggerated compensation that can appear in Reaction
Formation 'overboarding' as the person is going overboard in one direction
to distract from and cover up something unwanted in the other direction,
such as a person who fears war becoming a pacifist, convincing themselves
that war is wrong (rather than the 'cowardly' position that war is scary).
Reaction Formation goes further than projection such that unwanted impulses
and thoughts are not acknowledged.
Extreme patterns of Reaction Formation are found in paranoia and
obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), where the person becomes trapped in a
cycle of repeating a behavior that they know (at least at a deep level) is
somehow wrong."
--
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User: "Androcles"
Title: Re: Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance	26 Oct 2006 11:00:53 PM

"Tom Potter" <tdp1001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4541469e$0$19687$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
| Hanson, I suggest that you are dead on,
| with your psychological analysis of Dork moortel.
Not quite.
Dork Van de merde is also prime psychotic as well as psychopathic.
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/TwinsEvents.html
As you can clearly see, his offer to create web pages because
he worked for a major international IT provider with 500 plus
employees in Belgium (as a janitor) is endorsed by his exemplary
skill in creating images in text.
He also has a gender recognition malfunction.
"In order for the travelling twin to make *his* trip, *she* must be in
frame S' "
Androcles
.

User: "Art Deco"
Title: Re: Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance	26 Oct 2006 10:56:42 PM

Tom Potter <tdp1001@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Art Deco" <erfc@netcabal.com> wrote in message
news:231020061848018317%erfc@netcabal.com...

hanson <hanson@quick.net> wrote:

Well, low class as you, the confessed NO-Sperm VD Dirk, are
perhaps your gauche humor attempt may bring some smiles to
a few grief stricken people, making them realize that they are
by far not in such a bad mental condition as you are, because:

VD aka "Dirk Van de moortel", the self-labeled "Third Kacksacker"
and the self-anointed *** moron, local.village.idiot and troll ***
<dirkvandemoortel@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> cranked
himself news:dvO_g.143149$tN.2054252@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
and cajoled:
::: [follow-up set to more appropriate newsgroups] [= Dirk's home at:]
::: alt.morons,alt.local.village.idiot,alt.troll
where VD Dirk can been seen at work kacksackering away:
http://home.tiscali.be/stebune/Animal_files/elephant-*****-patrol.jpg
http://www.thesidewaysguide.com/Images/Skate/SkateFeatures/SkateLists...

"Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b> wrote in message

news:GIN_g.25515$3D1.11399@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

I've said it before, Dork's not just a troll, not just an idiot, he's a
psychopath.

[VD]

[snip remainder of imbecile top-post]

[hanson]
Hey, Dirk, you poor guy, that is some baggage you are carrying.

[hanson]

[VD]

[hanson]
But VD see, that confession of yours here shows exactly your
problem as diagnosed above under 2, 3, 8, 10 & 11... ahahaha...

[hanson]

| So, try not to be so fucking gauche, dude, even if it is the
| Usenet. Try to curtail your "Fumble bible" to regular themes.
| Don't be an embarrassment to your Belgian Landsmen.
| hanson

[VD]

... but obviously you are even dumber.
I "curtail" my fumble list to funny arrogant ignorants like
Androcles. Psychotic Hyenas like yourself don't even qualify :-)
Dirk Vdm

Now *this* is a proper campaign speech for the Goofy Azzed Babboon,
[hanson].

Support newsgroup snecked.

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*ding*

I think that Art is (Was?) basically a good person,
who came into the newsgroups,
and like many others, wanted to make a contribution,
but he couldn't handle the rejection, so he did a 180.
(Adopted the "reaction formation" defense mechanism.)

One could feel sorry for the psycho's and neurotics,
if they respected the science newsgroups,
and they confined their silly, immature trash
to the newsgroups set up for adolescents and neurotics.

Hopefully Art Deco with study "reaction formation",
think about it, heal himself, and leave the "Dark Side".

Hi, Crackpotter! Thanks for coming out in favor of [hanson]'s Goofy
Azzed Babboon nomination, I'm sure it'll go a long way toward securing
more votes in his favor.

There is no cure for people like Dork moortel,
short of a frontal lobotomy.

http://changingminds.org/explanations/behaviors/coping/reaction_formation.htm

"Reaction Formation
==============
Description
Reaction Formation occurs when a person feels an urge to do or say something
and then actually does or says something that is effectively the opposite of

Nice screed, but alas, it seems to have be flushed. Sorry.
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Hi, fanbois!
.

User: "Archie Leach"
Title: Re: Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance	23 Oct 2006 08:35:26 PM

Art Deco <erfc@netcabal.com> wrote:

hanson <hanson@quick.net> wrote:

Well, low class as you, the confessed NO-Sperm VD Dirk, are
perhaps your gauche humor attempt may bring some smiles to
a few grief stricken people, making them realize that they are
by far not in such a bad mental condition as you are, because:

VD aka "Dirk Van de moortel", the self-labeled "Third Kacksacker"
and the self-anointed *** moron, local.village.idiot and troll ***
<dirkvandemoortel@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> cranked
himself news:dvO_g.143149$tN.2054252@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
and cajoled:
::: [follow-up set to more appropriate newsgroups] [= Dirk's home at:]
::: alt.morons,alt.local.village.idiot,alt.troll
where VD Dirk can been seen at work kacksackering away:
http://home.tiscali.be/stebune/Animal_files/elephant-*****-patrol.jpg
http://www.thesidewaysguide.com/Images/Skate/SkateFeatures/SkateLists...

"Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b> wrote in message

news:GIN_g.25515$3D1.11399@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

I've said it before, Dork's not just a troll, not just an idiot, he's a
psychopath.

[VD]

[snip remainder of imbecile top-post]

[hanson]
Hey, Dirk, you poor guy, that is some baggage you are carrying.

[hanson]

[VD]

[hanson]
But VD see, that confession of yours here shows exactly your
problem as diagnosed above under 2, 3, 8, 10 & 11... ahahaha...

[hanson]

| So, try not to be so fucking gauche, dude, even if it is the
| Usenet. Try to curtail your "Fumble bible" to regular themes.
| Don't be an embarrassment to your Belgian Landsmen.
| hanson

[VD]

... but obviously you are even dumber.
I "curtail" my fumble list to funny arrogant ignorants like
Androcles. Psychotic Hyenas like yourself don't even qualify :-)
Dirk Vdm

Now *this* is a proper campaign speech for the Goofy Azzed Babboon,
[hanson].

Support newsgroup snecked.

[hanson] appears to be the retarded stepcousin of the legendary and
long-spnaked alt.flame mediocrity known as Xixixlezit (aka "Bleat
Goat", etc.)
.

User: "D"
Title: Re: Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance	22 Oct 2006 07:45:38 AM

Kent Paul Dolan wrote:

hanson wrote:

Kent
The thing is, somehow for whatever reason, cancers are on the
uprise.
Cancer clusters in communitys have risen especially over the last ten
years.
This is ultimately not a good sign for the rest of the population.
Because Doctors are not programmed to look at the bigger picture.
They take a patient, If a test points them in one direction, they are
just as happy
to steer that patient in that first direction rather than following
thru to see if perhaps
anything else could be causing these cancer clusters.
Too many doctors are not willing to bother with going the extra mile.
Cancer are on the rise. Many doctors are aware of this, but just
getting a degree to practice medicine does not mean we as patients
are going to get doctors that necessary have the guts to look past
the noses on their faces.
dboots

they divide before they can repair the damage (which
most body cells can eventually do).

However, other parts of the human body are _also_
undergoing rapid cell division, in particular the
lining of the gut, the producers of white and red
blood cells, and probably the lining of the lung.

It is an exquisite balancing act, and a gamble, to
kill the cancer without killing enough of these
other vulnerable, fast dividing parts of the body
to kill the whole patient. Sometimes, that gamble
is lost, on balance, or the regimen would be
changed, it is won more often than it is lost. If
the doctors are following ethical guidelines, the
risk is explained to the patient in advance and the
patient knowingly agrees to that "third course of
chemo".

Life comes with no guarantee of eternity, so it is
no surprise that each of us eventually loses the
attempt to live forever. Having cancer makes your
near term odds a whole lot worse, that's all.

HTH

xanthian, once married to a long time cancer patient
(incurable but sometimes survivable "mycosis
fungoides") for all 14 years of our marriage, is why
I know this stuff.

User: ""
Title: Re: Cancer & "Rotational Field Nuclear Quantum Magnetic Resonance	22 Oct 2006 10:35:02 AM

In sci.physics D <dbootsdiva@clearwire.net> wrote:
<snip>
<