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Science > Physics |
| User: |
"Raheman Velji" |
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13 Mar 2005 03:15:59 PM |
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cheap clean electricity (again) |
I am reposting my idea of the gravitational-density dynamo because
most of you did not bother to read the entire document. The main
argument against this invention is that it is too difficult to get the
object into the tube. This is wrong. It is actually fairly simple
and it requires very little energy. In my original post I explained
how to get the object into the tube in the last paragraph. However,
in this posting it is in the sixth paragraph.
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=-=-=-3) The Gravitational-density Dynamo-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Here is the general idea of the Gravitational-density Dynamo:
First, an object (the object could be a liquid) on the ground is
inserted into a tall tube which contains a fluid which is more dense
than the object. Also, the object should be insoluble in the fluid.
(When I first conceived this idea I figured the object would be a log
of wood, and the fluid would be water.) Due to the density
difference, the submerged object is displaced upwards. When the
object reaches the top, it is removed from the tube and is dropped.
Due to the force of gravity, it will fall. The energy of the falling
object will somehow be harnessed to create electricity. Once the
object has reached the ground, it must be reinserted back into the
tube to repeat the process. (Notice that the tube should be as tall
as possible so as to maximize the amount of energy of the object when
it falls.)
In the following paragraphs I will lay out the plans of a way to use
the Gravitational-density Dynamo to create cheap and clean
electricity.
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ramps--> / _ _ _ __ |
/ / / / / / / / |
|*| |*| |*| |*| |
|*| |*| |*| |*| |
tubes--> |*| |*| |*| |*| ----------*---------- <--turbine
|*| |*| |*| |*| |
|*| |*| |*| |*| |
\ \_\ \_\ \_\ \__ |
ramps--> \_______________ |
When I first conceived this idea I thought the object would be a log
of wood. However, logs of wood are unwieldy. So instead we will use
balls of wood. (I'm not sure how exactly to make a ball of wood, but
I'm sure with glue, etc., it can be done.) Since the density of wood
is 680 kg/m^3, a ball of wood that has a mass of 200kg would have a
volume of 300 000 cm^3 and a diameter of 80cm.
Now, this power plant I am designing here will occupy 1kmē of land.
In this space we will have 350 000 tall tubes. Each tube will be 300m
high and will occupy 1mē of ground area. Within each tube will be
water.
The idea is each wooden ball will be inserted into the bottom of a
tube. When the ball surfaces at the top of the tube it will be to the
turbine. When the ball is on the turbine, it will cause the turbine
to rotate. (In the diagram, the turbine would be rotating
anti-clockwise.) When the ball has reached the floor it will be
directed back to the bottom of a tube so that it may re-enter the
cycle.
Now, it is not as difficult as it seems to get the balls to-and-from
the turbine. To get the balls to the turbine is easy; all one needs
to do is give the ball a nudge so that it moves from the top of the
tube to the inclined ramp. Once it is on the ramp, it will simply
roll to the turbine, which of course does not require us to input
energy. One way to get a ball to enter the bottom of a tube is to
have a "compartment" which is attached to the bottom of the tube.
There should be a wall (which I will call the "front door") separating
the compartment and the tube. The compartment will also have a "back
door". This is how it would work: First, the ball is put into the
compartment through the back door. Then, the back door is closed and
water is allowed to fill up the compartment. When it is full of
water, the front door opens. Giving the ball a little nudge should
allow the ball to enter the tube. When the ball has exited the
compartment, the front door will close and some of the water in the
compartment will be drained. Then the back door will open to repeat
the cycle. (This way of getting the ball to enter a tube is similar
to how astronauts go for a space walk; they first enter a compartment
which is then depressurized, and then they are allowed to step out
into space.)
Now, a ball of wood at the top of a tube will have a gravitational
potential energy of 600 000J (GPE = 200kg * 10m/sē * 300m). Assuming
that the ball travels at 1 m/s while it is in the tube rising and the
same speed when it is on the turbine descending, and that it takes
100s in total for the ball to get to-and-from the turbine, we can say
that the ball will take 700s to complete a cycle. Thus, each ball
will give a power just under 1000 Watts (P = 600 000J/700s).
Now, obviously we can have more that one ball in a tube. It's
reasonable to assume that we have 100 balls per tube. This figure
allows a space of 6m between balls, which I figure is sufficient.
Thus, since each ball gives a power of 1000 Watts and we can fill a
tube with 100 balls, we can say that each tube produces 100 000 Watts
(P = 1000W/ball * 100 balls).
Now, since there are 350 000 tubes in the entire power plant and each
tube produces 100 000 Watts of energy, we can produce 35 giga-watts of
electricity (P = 350 000 tubes * 100 000 Watts/tube).
The tubes take up a bit more than a-third of the ground space. The
other two-thirds of the space will be occupied by the turbine, ramps,
etc.
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by Raheman Velji
March 13, 2005
you can also view this paper (and updated versions) at...
....http://www.angelfire.com/un/rv
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| User: "Franz Heymann" |
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| Title: Re: cheap clean electricity (again) |
13 Mar 2005 03:45:54 PM |
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"Raheman Velji" <rahemanvelji@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:235330de.0503131315.2e4ea95d@posting.google.com...
I am reposting my idea of the gravitational-density dynamo because
most of you did not bother to read the entire document. The main
argument against this invention is that it is too difficult to get
the
object into the tube. This is wrong. It is actually fairly simple
and it requires very little energy. In my original post I explained
how to get the object into the tube in the last paragraph. However,
in this posting it is in the sixth paragraph.
You seem to have missed the point:
Inserting the log of wood at the bottom of the tube displaces its own
volume of water upwards. When the wood reaches the top, because it
floats, there is a slight readjustment of the water level so that the
nett gain in height of the top surface is just that corresponding to
the weight of the wood All this palaver requires work to be done. If
you knew any physics, you would be able to calculate that, discounting
losses, this is precisely the amount of energy you gain when you drop
the wood from the top of the column.
Please respond by saying that you understood this, and that you accept
that your "idea" is a non-starter.
--
Franz
"One Galileo in 2000 years is enough."
Pope Pius XII
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| User: "CWatters" |
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| Title: Re: cheap clean electricity (again) |
14 Mar 2005 02:49:51 AM |
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"Raheman Velji" <rahemanvelji@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:235330de.0503131315.2e4ea95d@posting.google.com...
There should be a wall (which I will call the "front door") separating
the compartment and the tube. The compartment will also have a "back
door". This is how it would work: First, the ball is put into the
compartment through the back door. Then, the back door is closed and
water is allowed to fill up the compartment. When it is full of
water, the front door opens. Giving the ball a little nudge should
allow the ball to enter the tube. When the ball has exited the
compartment, the front door will close and some of the water in the
compartment will be drained.
The net result is that the water level falls slightly each time a ball is
inserted via the lock gates. Presumably you need to keep the water level
topped up or the ball won't float high enough to come out the top. How do
you restore the level of the water? How do you get the water you let out the
bottom back in at the top?
You could always locate your "power station" near a waterfall but then you
would be better off using a conventional water wheel or turbine as they are
more efficient.
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| User: "Morituri-|-Max" |
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| Title: Re: cheap clean electricity (again) |
13 Mar 2005 06:11:15 PM |
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"Raheman Velji" <rahemanvelji@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:235330de.0503131315.2e4ea95d@posting.google.com...
I am reposting my idea of the gravitational-density dynamo because
most of you did not bother to read the entire document.
Are you saying that because you think they didn't, or because they shot it
down as crap?
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| User: "Morituri-|-Max" |
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13 Mar 2005 06:12:32 PM |
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"Raheman Velji" <rahemanvelji@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:235330de.0503131315.2e4ea95d@posting.google.com...
I am reposting my idea of the gravitational-density dynamo because
most of you did not bother to read the entire document.
Hell if you are reposting the whole thing without changes required by what
the people revealed to you about your flawed ideas, then YOU didn't read
THEIR posts at all. Only about 6 different people all showed you the same
fatal flaw in your perpetual motion scam.
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| User: "Nick Rouse" |
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| Title: Re: cheap clean electricity (again) |
14 Mar 2005 04:46:18 AM |
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(Raheman Velji) wrote in message news:<235330de.0503131315.2e4ea95d@posting.google.com>...
I am reposting my idea of the gravitational-density dynamo because
most of you did not bother to read the entire document. The main
argument against this invention is that it is too difficult to get the
object into the tube. This is wrong. It is actually fairly simple
and it requires very little energy. In my original post I explained
how to get the object into the tube in the last paragraph. However,
in this posting it is in the sixth paragraph.
Snip.
you have escaped the energy requirement of pushing the ball
in against the force of the water pressure only at the cost
of spilling a ball's volume of water for every ball round the system
Since the ball floats this water must weigh more than the ball.
Un-corrected this would soon empty the system. To restore the
water you must either pump it in at the bottom or lift it up
to the top. Both of which use more energy than the gained
from the ball dropping down the side.
If you have a supply of water already at the top and a
way of cotinuously draining the water at the bottom without
energy expendature you have all you need for a conventional
hydroelectric system which will be more efficient than your
scheme
Nick Rouse
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| User: "Sea Squid" |
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13 Mar 2005 11:18:07 PM |
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It doesn't work.
Assume the volume of the wood is 1ml, and the height of the fluid is h,
when you insert the wood back into the liquid, you need to displace
1ml of fluid at a pressure of mgh, the power needed to insert the wood
equals the energy you get from the rising wood..
It sounds like you first pump water to a high ground then let it flow back
down to run a turbine..
"Raheman Velji" <rahemanvelji@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:235330de.0503131315.2e4ea95d@posting.google.com...
I am reposting my idea of the gravitational-density dynamo because
most of you did not bother to read the entire document. The main
argument against this invention is that it is too difficult to get the
object into the tube. This is wrong. It is actually fairly simple
and it requires very little energy. In my original post I explained
how to get the object into the tube in the last paragraph. However,
in this posting it is in the sixth paragraph.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
=-=-=-3) The Gravitational-density Dynamo-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Here is the general idea of the Gravitational-density Dynamo:
First, an object (the object could be a liquid) on the ground is
inserted into a tall tube which contains a fluid which is more dense
than the object. Also, the object should be insoluble in the fluid.
(When I first conceived this idea I figured the object would be a log
of wood, and the fluid would be water.) Due to the density
difference, the submerged object is displaced upwards. When the
object reaches the top, it is removed from the tube and is dropped.
Due to the force of gravity, it will fall. The energy of the falling
object will somehow be harnessed to create electricity. Once the
object has reached the ground, it must be reinserted back into the
tube to repeat the process. (Notice that the tube should be as tall
as possible so as to maximize the amount of energy of the object when
it falls.)
In the following paragraphs I will lay out the plans of a way to use
the Gravitational-density Dynamo to create cheap and clean
electricity.
_______________
ramps--> / _ _ _ __ |
/ / / / / / / / |
|*| |*| |*| |*| |
|*| |*| |*| |*| |
tubes--> |*| |*| |*| |*| ----------*---------- <--turbine
|*| |*| |*| |*| |
|*| |*| |*| |*| |
\ \_\ \_\ \_\ \__ |
ramps--> \_______________ |
When I first conceived this idea I thought the object would be a log
of wood. However, logs of wood are unwieldy. So instead we will use
balls of wood. (I'm not sure how exactly to make a ball of wood, but
I'm sure with glue, etc., it can be done.) Since the density of wood
is 680 kg/m^3, a ball of wood that has a mass of 200kg would have a
volume of 300 000 cm^3 and a diameter of 80cm.
Now, this power plant I am designing here will occupy 1kmē of land.
In this space we will have 350 000 tall tubes. Each tube will be 300m
high and will occupy 1mē of ground area. Within each tube will be
water.
The idea is each wooden ball will be inserted into the bottom of a
tube. When the ball surfaces at the top of the tube it will be to the
turbine. When the ball is on the turbine, it will cause the turbine
to rotate. (In the diagram, the turbine would be rotating
anti-clockwise.) When the ball has reached the floor it will be
directed back to the bottom of a tube so that it may re-enter the
cycle.
Now, it is not as difficult as it seems to get the balls to-and-from
the turbine. To get the balls to the turbine is easy; all one needs
to do is give the ball a nudge so that it moves from the top of the
tube to the inclined ramp. Once it is on the ramp, it will simply
roll to the turbine, which of course does not require us to input
energy. One way to get a ball to enter the bottom of a tube is to
have a "compartment" which is attached to the bottom of the tube.
There should be a wall (which I will call the "front door") separating
the compartment and the tube. The compartment will also have a "back
door". This is how it would work: First, the ball is put into the
compartment through the back door. Then, the back door is closed and
water is allowed to fill up the compartment. When it is full of
water, the front door opens. Giving the ball a little nudge should
allow the ball to enter the tube. When the ball has exited the
compartment, the front door will close and some of the water in the
compartment will be drained. Then the back door will open to repeat
the cycle. (This way of getting the ball to enter a tube is similar
to how astronauts go for a space walk; they first enter a compartment
which is then depressurized, and then they are allowed to step out
into space.)
Now, a ball of wood at the top of a tube will have a gravitational
potential energy of 600 000J (GPE = 200kg * 10m/sē * 300m). Assuming
that the ball travels at 1 m/s while it is in the tube rising and the
same speed when it is on the turbine descending, and that it takes
100s in total for the ball to get to-and-from the turbine, we can say
that the ball will take 700s to complete a cycle. Thus, each ball
will give a power just under 1000 Watts (P = 600 000J/700s).
Now, obviously we can have more that one ball in a tube. It's
reasonable to assume that we have 100 balls per tube. This figure
allows a space of 6m between balls, which I figure is sufficient.
Thus, since each ball gives a power of 1000 Watts and we can fill a
tube with 100 balls, we can say that each tube produces 100 000 Watts
(P = 1000W/ball * 100 balls).
Now, since there are 350 000 tubes in the entire power plant and each
tube produces 100 000 Watts of energy, we can produce 35 giga-watts of
electricity (P = 350 000 tubes * 100 000 Watts/tube).
The tubes take up a bit more than a-third of the ground space. The
other two-thirds of the space will be occupied by the turbine, ramps,
etc.
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by Raheman Velji
rahemanvelji@yahoo.ca
March 13, 2005
you can also view this paper (and updated versions) at...
...http://www.angelfire.com/un/rv
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| User: "Sea Squid" |
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| Title: Re: cheap clean electricity (again) |
14 Mar 2005 01:47:39 AM |
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It doesn't work.
Assume the volume of the wood is 1ml, and the height of the fluid is h,
when you insert the wood back into the liquid, you need to displace
1ml of fluid at a pressure of ru*g*h, the power needed to insert the wood
equals the energy you get from the rising wood..
It sounds like you first pump water to a high ground then let it flow back
down to run a turbine..
"Raheman Velji" <rahemanvelji@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:235330de.0503131315.2e4ea95d@posting.google.com...
I am reposting my idea of the gravitational-density dynamo because
most of you did not bother to read the entire document. The main
argument against this invention is that it is too difficult to get the
object into the tube. This is wrong. It is actually fairly simple
and it requires very little energy. In my original post I explained
how to get the object into the tube in the last paragraph. However,
in this posting it is in the sixth paragraph.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
=-=-=-3) The Gravitational-density Dynamo-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Here is the general idea of the Gravitational-density Dynamo:
First, an object (the object could be a liquid) on the ground is
inserted into a tall tube which contains a fluid which is more dense
than the object. Also, the object should be insoluble in the fluid.
(When I first conceived this idea I figured the object would be a log
of wood, and the fluid would be water.) Due to the density
difference, the submerged object is displaced upwards. When the
object reaches the top, it is removed from the tube and is dropped.
Due to the force of gravity, it will fall. The energy of the falling
object will somehow be harnessed to create electricity. Once the
object has reached the ground, it must be reinserted back into the
tube to repeat the process. (Notice that the tube should be as tall
as possible so as to maximize the amount of energy of the object when
it falls.)
In the following paragraphs I will lay out the plans of a way to use
the Gravitational-density Dynamo to create cheap and clean
electricity.
_______________
ramps--> / _ _ _ __ |
/ / / / / / / / |
|*| |*| |*| |*| |
|*| |*| |*| |*| |
tubes--> |*| |*| |*| |*| ----------*---------- <--turbine
|*| |*| |*| |*| |
|*| |*| |*| |*| |
\ \_\ \_\ \_\ \__ |
ramps--> \_______________ |
When I first conceived this idea I thought the object would be a log
of wood. However, logs of wood are unwieldy. So instead we will use
balls of wood. (I'm not sure how exactly to make a ball of wood, but
I'm sure with glue, etc., it can be done.) Since the density of wood
is 680 kg/m^3, a ball of wood that has a mass of 200kg would have a
volume of 300 000 cm^3 and a diameter of 80cm.
Now, this power plant I am designing here will occupy 1kmē of land.
In this space we will have 350 000 tall tubes. Each tube will be 300m
high and will occupy 1mē of ground area. Within each tube will be
water.
The idea is each wooden ball will be inserted into the bottom of a
tube. When the ball surfaces at the top of the tube it will be to the
turbine. When the ball is on the turbine, it will cause the turbine
to rotate. (In the diagram, the turbine would be rotating
anti-clockwise.) When the ball has reached the floor it will be
directed back to the bottom of a tube so that it may re-enter the
cycle.
Now, it is not as difficult as it seems to get the balls to-and-from
the turbine. To get the balls to the turbine is easy; all one needs
to do is give the ball a nudge so that it moves from the top of the
tube to the inclined ramp. Once it is on the ramp, it will simply
roll to the turbine, which of course does not require us to input
energy. One way to get a ball to enter the bottom of a tube is to
have a "compartment" which is attached to the bottom of the tube.
There should be a wall (which I will call the "front door") separating
the compartment and the tube. The compartment will also have a "back
door". This is how it would work: First, the ball is put into the
compartment through the back door. Then, the back door is closed and
water is allowed to fill up the compartment. When it is full of
water, the front door opens. Giving the ball a little nudge should
allow the ball to enter the tube. When the ball has exited the
compartment, the front door will close and some of the water in the
compartment will be drained. Then the back door will open to repeat
the cycle. (This way of getting the ball to enter a tube is similar
to how astronauts go for a space walk; they first enter a compartment
which is then depressurized, and then they are allowed to step out
into space.)
Now, a ball of wood at the top of a tube will have a gravitational
potential energy of 600 000J (GPE = 200kg * 10m/sē * 300m). Assuming
that the ball travels at 1 m/s while it is in the tube rising and the
same speed when it is on the turbine descending, and that it takes
100s in total for the ball to get to-and-from the turbine, we can say
that the ball will take 700s to complete a cycle. Thus, each ball
will give a power just under 1000 Watts (P = 600 000J/700s).
Now, obviously we can have more that one ball in a tube. It's
reasonable to assume that we have 100 balls per tube. This figure
allows a space of 6m between balls, which I figure is sufficient.
Thus, since each ball gives a power of 1000 Watts and we can fill a
tube with 100 balls, we can say that each tube produces 100 000 Watts
(P = 1000W/ball * 100 balls).
Now, since there are 350 000 tubes in the entire power plant and each
tube produces 100 000 Watts of energy, we can produce 35 giga-watts of
electricity (P = 350 000 tubes * 100 000 Watts/tube).
The tubes take up a bit more than a-third of the ground space. The
other two-thirds of the space will be occupied by the turbine, ramps,
etc.
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by Raheman Velji
rahemanvelji@yahoo.ca
March 13, 2005
you can also view this paper (and updated versions) at...
...http://www.angelfire.com/un/rv
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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13 Mar 2005 05:13:23 PM |
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Raheman Velji wrote:
I am reposting my idea of the gravitational-density dynamo because
most of you did not bother to read the entire document.[snip crap]
[snip crap]
You see yourself this way,
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/effete6.jpg
The entire remainder of the planet sees you this way,
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/effete3.png
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/sunshine.jpg
<http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare.swf>
http://www.apa.org/journals/psp/psp7761121.html
http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu/~siegel/quack.html
<http://www.firehead.org/~jessh/film/kubrick/Kubrick-Psycho.html>
<http://www.naturalchild.com/elliott_barker/prisons.html>
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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13 Mar 2005 06:25:17 PM |
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Raheman Velji wrote:
I am reposting my idea of the gravitational-density dynamo because
most of you did not bother to read the entire document.
Another defeat by the Second Law of Thermodynamics
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/SecondLawofThermodynamics.html
What's worse is the poster doesn't even know it. Pitty!
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| User: "Puppet_Sock" |
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14 Mar 2005 09:37:58 AM |
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Sam Wormley wrote:
Raheman Velji wrote:
I am reposting my idea of the gravitational-density dynamo because
most of you did not bother to read the entire document.
Another defeat by the Second Law of Thermodynamics
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/SecondLawofThermodynamics.html
What's worse is the poster doesn't even know it. Pitty!
Actually, Sam, his notion is defeated by the 1st law. Conservation
of energy, and all the forces involved are conservative forces.
All he is playing with is gravity and standard old materials.
You do not need to know anything about entropy to know his idea
will not work.
Socks
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| User: "Tony" |
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13 Mar 2005 03:29:21 PM |
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The issue is this. Suppose the tube of water has a cross sectional area
of 1 square meter. Suppose the top surface is 100 meters above the port
where your ball of wood, and let's suppose it has a volume of a cubic
meter, is put in. I don't care how you introduce the ball of wood into
the tube, but at the instant it's fully in, it displaces its volume of
water, so the water depth MUST increase by 1 meter. What you're not
addressing, is where does the energy come from to lift the column of
water that meter? It comes from the force you'll have to use to push
the block of wood into the tube.
If you do the analysis, you'll find the work it takes to put the wood
into the tube is the most amount of work or energy you can recover.
There's no free lunch.
About a month or so ago I did an analysis on this newsgroup about
recovering energy by bringing water that was compressed by 1000
atmospheres of pressure, deep in the ocean, to the surface then
recovering the energy by letting the water expand at the surface. It
took as much energy to pull the water up as was available for
extraction. You're doing exactly the same thing.
It's like blowing a baloon up deep underwater, then tying a string to
it and extracting the energy as it pushes to the surface. It'll take as
much energy to inflate it as can be extracted by its rising, because as
it's inflating it is displacing water and that takes energy.
It's a clever idea you had, but it won't quite work.
Nice try, though..
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13 Mar 2005 03:42:06 PM |
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Raheman--
Your idea is not complicated nor cost prohibitive in the small scale.
Suggest you go build one and post your findings. If it works, you're
rich--consensus is though that it will end up as "Raheman's Folly"-- as
opposed to "Fultons Folly"--which did work!
Good luck
Tut
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