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User: "George Hammond"
Date: 03 Apr 2006 08:52:02 AM
Object: CLASSICAL GOD vs QUANTUM GOD
CLASSICAL GOD vs QUANTUM GOD
Not 1 in 1000 physicists knows what God is.
Why?
Because not 1 in 1000 physicists is even aware
that there ARE people who know what God is!
It is no wonder then that Physics does not know
the difference between the CLASSICAL GOD,
and the QUANTUM GOD.
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Now to be fair, let me point out that the people who
"actually know what God is", only know what the
CLASSICAL GOD is.... in fact they do not know
what the QUANTUM GOD is because NOBODY
will know what the Quantum God is until the theory
of Quantum Gravity is discovered, and that may be
awhile!
In the meantime however, an empirical knowledge of
the CLASSICAL GOD is quite prevalent in the upper
reaches of society despite the fact that the scientific
sector (particularly Physics) remains completely
ignorant of it.
NOW HOWEVER it turns out that a hard scientific
proof of the existence of the CLASSICAL GOD has
been discovered and published in the peer reviewed
scientific literature:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hammond G.E.(2003) A Semiclassical Theory of God
Noetic Journal, Vol 4(3) July 2003, pp 231-244(Noetic Press)
Online copy of peer/published paper is posted at:
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god/Hammond5s1.html
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Now to be clear, this proof of God that has been discovered
is only a proof of the CLASSICAL GOD, not of the
QUANTUM GOD.
Interestingly, many physicists say they are more willing to consider
the possibility of a QUANTUM GOD than a CLASSICAL GOD.
Einstein himself said for instance that he did not believe in a
classical (anthropomorphic) God.... but that he did believe
in a "Cosmical" God (identified as the "Quantum God" by
this author).
It is ironic then, that Einstein's own classical Relativity turns
out to be the proof of the Classical (anthropomorphic) God,
which Einstein did not believe in, while the as yet undiscovered
theory of Quantum Gravity turns out to prove the existence of
his "Cosmical God"..... an as yet undiscovered theory.
SO AT THIS POINT,
I think we should explain in clear and concise terms what
exactly is the difference between the Classical God and
the Quantum God--
Let me explain the difference this way:
THE CLASSICAL GOD
Hammond (2003) has discovered that the "classical" God
of the Bible.... the "invisible man" God of the Old and
New Testaments, is in fact explained and proven as the
perceptual effect of the Secular Trend Growth Deficit
of the Human Brain.
Hammond has shown clearly how this braingrowth deficit
causes the world to appear LARGER and FASTER than
it actually is, to every human being on the Earth, past and
present.... and this phenomena is called "God". Moreover,
Hammond has proven that Psychometry is identical
to Linearized Relativity, and therefore that this magnification
and speeding up of reality, is actually a "curvature" of
"subjective spacetime" (subjective reality), and therefore
that Einstein's theory actually describes the
CLASSICAL GOD.....i.e.,
GOD = G_uv = - ln (braingrowth)
In other words, "God" appears as a "classical curvature
of 4-dimensional subjective spacetime", which is why we
can say, God is caused by gravity as far as classical
Physics is concerned.
However, it is now known that classical Relativity is not the
"ultimate" explanation of Gravity, that actually there is an
undiscovered "Quantum" theory of gravity, known as
"Quantum Gravity". Obviously then, when the quantum
explanation of classical gravity is found, we will then
have also a quantum theory of God as well as a
classical theory of God. In fact, while it can be proven
that the Classical God is a relativistic curvature of
subjective spacetime, caused by braingrowth.... roger
Penrose has shown that braingrowth, like all brain
functions ultimately, is moderated by "quantum brain
gravity", and therefore, the "classical curvature" that
causes the classical God, is ultimately caused by
"quantum Gravity", and therefore the Quantum God
is ultimately the cause of the Classical God.
Several key points should be emphasized:
1. The Quantum theory of God is still
unknown and undiscovered.
2. The classical theory of God has been
discovered, proven and published in the
peer reviewed literature (Hammond, 2003)
3. The classical God will remain true and valid
forever, even after the Quantum God has
been discovered, much the same as
Newtonian Gravity will remain valid forever,
despite the discovery of Relativity.
4. It must be recognized that the "Classical God"
has been the workhorse of religion for thousands
of years, and will doubtlessly remain so even after
the Quantum theory of God is discovered. The
discovery of the Quantum God however is
expected to elucidate the theory of Life After Death,
whereas the discovery and proof of the Classical God
does not resolve the question entirely.
5. Finally is must be noted and emphasized that many
scientists spend a great deal of time speculating
about the "Quantum God" even though that discovery is
likely centuries away..... and even more annoying
is the fact that the entire scientific community
remains ABSOLUTELY CLUELESS that the
CLASSICAL GOD has been discovered, proven,
and the proof published in the peer reviewed
literature by Hammond (2003).
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Title: Re: CLASSICAL GOD vs QUANTUM GOD 03 Apr 2006 06:22:46 PM
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User: "T Wake"

Title: Re: CLASSICAL GOD vs QUANTUM GOD 04 Apr 2006 12:34:41 PM
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By the way, you are still a raging crackpot.
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User: ""

Title: Re: CLASSICAL GOD vs QUANTUM GOD 04 Apr 2006 02:31:51 PM

By the way, you are still a raging crackpot.

Unfortunately George thinks of that as support for his ideas. He has
stated that many ideas were called crackpot and looney but were
eventually accepted as "The Truth". So his meanderings being called
insane merely means that he is (in his own derranged mind) on the right
track and it will soon be hailed as the greatest breakthrough in
science.
What he doesn't take into account is that vastly more ideas that were
called crackpot and looney turned out to be complete garbage, as his
are.
But that is true insanity for you.
.
User: "T Wake"

Title: Re: CLASSICAL GOD vs QUANTUM GOD 04 Apr 2006 03:02:51 PM
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By the way, you are still a raging crackpot.


Unfortunately George thinks of that as support for his ideas. He has
stated that many ideas were called crackpot and looney but were
eventually accepted as "The Truth". So his meanderings being called
insane merely means that he is (in his own derranged mind) on the right
track and it will soon be hailed as the greatest breakthrough in
science.

What he doesn't take into account is that vastly more ideas that were
called crackpot and looney turned out to be complete garbage, as his
are.

But that is true insanity for you.

LOL
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Title: Re: CLASSICAL GOD vs QUANTUM GOD 03 Apr 2006 10:17:22 PM
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Funny how the Holy Bible said that God could not be found in the
World (which was given over to Satan), yet George is so smart he
can outsmart God.
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Title: Re: CLASSICAL GOD vs QUANTUM GOD 05 Apr 2006 11:35:59 AM
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Title: Re: CLASSICAL GOD vs QUANTUM GOD 06 Apr 2006 04:37:45 AM
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Title: Re: CLASSICAL GOD vs QUANTUM GOD 06 Apr 2006 06:51:49 AM
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Title: Re: CLASSICAL GOD vs QUANTUM GOD 08 Apr 2006 05:42:06 AM
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Title: Re: CLASSICAL GOD vs QUANTUM GOD 08 Apr 2006 08:11:06 AM
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Title: Re: CLASSICAL GOD vs QUANTUM GOD 04 Apr 2006 01:52:38 PM
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Title: Re: CLASSICAL GOD vs QUANTUM GOD 04 Apr 2006 10:13:59 AM
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youre a mad *****.
why dont you just kill file every fucker and have done with.
when you promised to never post here again, why cant you fucking keep
that promise.
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Title: Re: CLASSICAL GOD vs QUANTUM GOD 03 Apr 2006 07:39:15 PM
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Title: Re: CLASSICAL GOD vs QUANTUM GOD 03 Apr 2006 08:23:58 PM
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Wait, how will you know to killfile me?

Seems like a causality problem. Solution: We know you don't really use a
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Looks like he just goes from a comprehensive list of everyone who's
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p
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Title: Re: CLASSICAL GOD vs QUANTUM GOD 03 Apr 2006 03:23:46 PM
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5. Finally is must be noted and emphasized that many
scientists spend a great deal of time speculating
about the "Quantum God" even though that discovery is
likely centuries away..... and even more annoying
is the fact that the entire scientific community
remains ABSOLUTELY CLUELESS that the
CLASSICAL GOD has been discovered, proven,
and the proof published in the peer reviewed
literature by Hammond (2003).

You are truly clueless.
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User: "George Hammond"

Title: Re: CLASSICAL GOD vs QUANTUM GOD 07 Apr 2006 09:09:31 AM
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On 7 Apr 2006 06:13:56 -0700,
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Not 1 in 1000 physicists knows what God is.



Even primary school students, know E=MC2. How do ya
figure 1 in 1000 physicists don't?

[Hammond]
Listen witless stooge... this isn't an amateur conversation.
Some of the most ignorant, vicious and mentally perturbed
PhD scientists on Usenet are following this discussion with
rapt attention.
When you can give me a respectable rational scientific
explanation as to why Shiva, Vishnu, and Brahma have been
depicted as having multiple arms for thousands of years
in Hindu religious iconography.... and how scientifically
that is related to the "classical God of history" (e.g. the
God of the Bible for instance) .... then I'll talk to you.....
in the meantime your pathetic commentary is killfiled on
my computer as being "to stupid and boring to
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Title: Re: CLASSICAL GOD vs QUANTUM GOD 07 Apr 2006 01:11:37 PM
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On 7 Apr 2006 06:13:56 -0700,

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George Hammond wrote:

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CLASSICAL GOD vs QUANTUM GOD

Not 1 in 1000 physicists knows what God is.



Even primary school students, know E=MC2. How do ya
figure 1 in 1000 physicists don't?


[Hammond]
Listen witless stooge...

It is amusing that this was a reply to one of your own posts...

this isn't an amateur conversation.

But you are amateur.

Some of the most ignorant, vicious and mentally perturbed
PhD scientists on Usenet are following this discussion with
rapt attention.

That is one way of looking at it.

When you can give me a respectable rational scientific
explanation as to why Shiva, Vishnu, and Brahma have been
depicted as having multiple arms for thousands of years
in Hindu religious iconography.... and how scientifically
that is related to the "classical God of history" (e.g. the
God of the Bible for instance) ....

It is truly amusing that you think the above paragraph makes sense.
You want scientific studies into religious iconography. Amazing.

then I'll talk to you.....
in the meantime your pathetic commentary is killfiled on
my computer as being "to stupid and boring to
bother with" just like all the others on the killfile list.

How will you know if he is already kill filed?
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Title: What the word God means. 03 Apr 2006 06:56:55 PM
Hi George_Hammond,
Physicists, perhaps more than anyone else, certainly more than you,
know what the word God means. I say the word means this:
God is a position: I'm God's prisoner, and God to my prisoners.

See WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Albert_Einstein#Religious_views
Einstein believed _True_ theorists are skeptical metaphysicists, saying:
" I believe that every true theorist is a kind of tamed metaphysicist,
no matter how pure a 'positivist' he may fancy himself.
The metaphysicist believes that the logically simple is also the real.

The tamed metaphysicist believes that
not all that is logically simple is embodied in experienced reality,
but that the totality of all sensory experience
can be 'comprehended' on the basis of
a conceptual system built on premises of great simplicity."
He also believed physical processes determine absolutely everything, saying:
" But the scientist is possessed by the sense of universal causation.
The future, to him, is every whit as necessary and determined as the past."
See Albert Einstein's "The World as I See It",
Secaucus, New Jersy, The Citadel Press, 1999, pp. 24-29,
http://stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/einstein_religion.html
( Note: This book is a collection of writings by Albert Einstein,
from around 1932 )
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