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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "Sam Wormley"
Date: 19 Apr 2007 08:54:24 AM
Object: Conceptual Problem for Ken Seto
Ken, consider two entities, A and B, experiencing relative motion
such that each measures dv/dt = 0 and c > |dr/dt| >> 0 with respect
to each other.
Consider observer A. A will *measure* B's clock to run slow.
Similarly, B will *measure* A's clock to run slow. And, of course,
this is expected due to the symmetric relationship between A and B.
The degree of *measured* time dilation is exactly as is predicted
by SR.
Furthermore, let |dr/dt| equal 17000 km/s. Then A will measure B's
clock to run slow by a factor of 1.0016, and B will *measure* A's
clock to run slow by a factor of 1.0016.
Each measures the other's clock to run slower than her own. There
is nothing wrong with that.
.

User: "Dirk Van de moortel"

Title: Re: Conceptual Problem for Ken Seto 19 Apr 2007 12:00:43 PM
"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:kwKVh.2726$n_.1014@attbi_s21...


Ken, consider two entities, A and B, experiencing relative motion
such that each measures dv/dt = 0 and c > |dr/dt| >> 0 with respect
to each other.

Ken does not understand things like
dv/dt = 0
let alone things like
c > |dr/dt| >> 0
See, for instance
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/SquareDiff.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/NegSquareRoot.html
Ken only understands words.
Well, a few words, at least.
Dirk Vdm
.
User: "Paul Cardinale"

Title: Re: Conceptual Problem for Ken Seto 19 Apr 2007 01:48:26 PM
On Apr 19, 10:00 am, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
SperM.hotmail.com> wrote:

"Sam Wormley" <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote in messagenews:kwKVh.2726$n_.1014@attbi_s21...

Ken, consider two entities, A and B, experiencing relative motion
such that each measures dv/dt = 0 and c > |dr/dt| >> 0 with respect
to each other.


Ken does not understand things like
dv/dt = 0
let alone things like
c > |dr/dt| >> 0

See, for instance
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/SquareDiff.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/NegSquareRoot....

Ken only understands words.
Well, a few words, at least.

And those are mostly one-syllable words, and never three-syllable
words. He also likes to frequently use words (especially long ones)
that he doesn't understand.
Paul Cardinale
.


User: "Paul Cardinale"

Title: Re: Conceptual Problem for Ken Seto 19 Apr 2007 01:57:19 PM
On Apr 19, 6:54 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:

Ken, consider two entities, A and B, experiencing relative motion
such that each measures dv/dt = 0 and c > |dr/dt| >> 0 with respect
to each other.

Consider observer A. A will *measure* B's clock to run slow.
Similarly, B will *measure* A's clock to run slow. And, of course,
this is expected due to the symmetric relationship between A and B.
The degree of *measured* time dilation is exactly as is predicted
by SR.

Furthermore, let |dr/dt| equal 17000 km/s. Then A will measure B's
clock to run slow by a factor of 1.0016, and B will *measure* A's
clock to run slow by a factor of 1.0016.

Each measures the other's clock to run slower than her own. There
is nothing wrong with that.

Don't be silly. It's a waste electrons of trying to explain anything
to the kenseto.
After all, he has no input bandwidth and no processing power.
His brain operates as a NIGO: Nothing In, Garbage Out.
Paul Cardinale
.
User: "Dirk Van de moortel"

Title: Re: Conceptual Problem for Ken Seto 19 Apr 2007 01:58:02 PM
"Paul Cardinale" <pcardinale@volcanomail.com> wrote in message news:1177009039.564626.249790@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

On Apr 19, 6:54 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:

Ken, consider two entities, A and B, experiencing relative motion
such that each measures dv/dt = 0 and c > |dr/dt| >> 0 with respect
to each other.

Consider observer A. A will *measure* B's clock to run slow.
Similarly, B will *measure* A's clock to run slow. And, of course,
this is expected due to the symmetric relationship between A and B.
The degree of *measured* time dilation is exactly as is predicted
by SR.

Furthermore, let |dr/dt| equal 17000 km/s. Then A will measure B's
clock to run slow by a factor of 1.0016, and B will *measure* A's
clock to run slow by a factor of 1.0016.

Each measures the other's clock to run slower than her own. There
is nothing wrong with that.


Don't be silly. It's a waste electrons of trying to explain anything
to the kenseto.
After all, he has no input bandwidth and no processing power.
His brain operates as a NIGO: Nothing In, Garbage Out.

Good one :-)
Dirk Vdm
.



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