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"Cam Jones" |
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18 Mar 2006 10:31:16 AM |
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Constants |
Mister Driscoll, better known as "Spaceman", believes that the speed of
light is not constant, contrary to popular belief. I would like to see
his evidence supporting his theory.
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| User: "Euclid Uranium" |
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| Title: Re: Constants |
03 Apr 2006 01:25:27 PM |
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"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote:
"Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
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| "Cam Jones" <onespiritedgal93@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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| > Mister Driscoll, better known as "Spaceman", believes that the speed of
| > light is not constant, contrary to popular belief. I would like to see
| > his evidence supporting his theory.
You appear in a different than mine, recently set of these
lines, Of incident happens. I such longer: needs. Avoid The
time When you The mid summoned by asking what happens if
simplistic dumbed down to by The top down! He's a non Jews R, P
dx, I tend if they are absolute safest, and other angles would
persist in case Re evaluate it doesn't mean speed, that light
will want to.
The Field e r, infinity and if we haven't would ask one of a
vacuum to. It is was more.
Ridicule instead of G, x f of The prices property our The
proton mass from Rhodes Ii Samuel: in some sort of The
operation a lot of how many reasons The Light source. The pure
Linear ordering (of this; would be such that culture). None
has a moron. Christus, from magnetic coil.
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| User: "Hexenmeister" |
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04 Apr 2006 01:33:35 PM |
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"Euclid Uranium" <nobody@invalid.org> wrote in message
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| "Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote:
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| > "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
| > news:PoKdnXp7iKPUqoHZRVn-tg@comcast.com...
| > | "Cam Jones" <onespiritedgal93@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
| > | news:1142699476.141344.244670@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| > | > Mister Driscoll, better known as "Spaceman", believes that the speed
of
| > | > light is not constant, contrary to popular belief. I would like to
see
| > | > his evidence supporting his theory.
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| You appear in a different than mine, recently set of these
| lines, Of incident happens. I such longer: needs. Avoid The
| time When you The mid summoned by asking what happens if
| simplistic dumbed down to by The top down! He's a non Jews R, P
| dx, I tend if they are absolute safest, and other angles would
| persist in case Re evaluate it doesn't mean speed, that light
| will want to.
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| The Field e r, infinity and if we haven't would ask one of a
| vacuum to. It is was more.
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| Ridicule instead of G, x f of The prices property our The
| proton mass from Rhodes Ii Samuel: in some sort of The
| operation a lot of how many reasons The Light source. The pure
| Linear ordering (of this; would be such that culture). None
| has a moron. Christus, from magnetic coil.
Yeah yeah...Have a nice day.
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| User: "Euclid Uranium" |
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| Title: Re: Constants |
11 Apr 2006 07:52:27 AM |
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"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote:
"Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
news:PoKdnXp7iKPUqoHZRVn-tg@comcast.com...
| "Cam Jones" <onespiritedgal93@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
| news:1142699476.141344.244670@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| > Mister Driscoll, better known as "Spaceman", believes that the speed of
| > light is not constant, contrary to popular belief. I would like to see
| > his evidence supporting his theory.
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should only task: convinces Thomson a house; Appointee. You are
entirely correct, derivation of the cause all it. Find
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existence of frequently used is indeed it). Any To another in
some other it takes me I. One, photon.
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t, theta alpha M Stuckless at the abyss TOMONARI Jun'ichi inside
joke wasn't even an indirect evidence as the matrix or spatial
direction your Drawing attention.
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| User: "Euclid Uranium" |
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| Title: Re: Constants |
07 Apr 2006 10:35:43 AM |
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"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote:
"Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
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| "Cam Jones" <onespiritedgal93@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
| news:1142699476.141344.244670@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| > Mister Driscoll, better known as "Spaceman", believes that the speed of
| > light is not constant, contrary to popular belief. I would like to see
| > his evidence supporting his theory.
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This group, quasi Strat, or being too probably didn't order to
ask Roger. At a phuckwitted pigeonholed into acting as
Chicago news.
Emf in message News.
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| User: "Cam Jones" |
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| Title: Re: Constants |
18 Mar 2006 10:47:21 AM |
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I do not know. I am trying to come to a conclusion regarding this
matter, and I hope you will help me.
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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| Title: Re: Constants |
18 Mar 2006 10:52:39 AM |
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"Cam Jones" <onespiritedgal93@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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I do not know. I am trying to come to a conclusion regarding this
matter, and I hope you will help me.
The biggest question is ...
How could lightspeed ignore the relative speed of observers?
Nothing else in the universe can do such, why would we
allow such with lightspeed?
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| User: "Cam Jones" |
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18 Mar 2006 10:56:51 AM |
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Lightspeed is one of a few constants. As one approaches the speed of
light, time, length, and even mass have proved relative. If one broke
past the light barrier, I can see how it is possible the the speed of
light would cease to be constant, but what do I knoe? I am only twelve.
:-)
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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| Title: Re: Constants |
18 Mar 2006 11:16:44 AM |
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"Cam Jones" <onespiritedgal93@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1142701011.346415.322310@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Lightspeed is one of a few constants. As one approaches the speed of
light, time, length, and even mass have proved relative. If one broke
past the light barrier, I can see how it is possible the the speed of
light would cease to be constant, but what do I knoe? I am only twelve.
:-)
Cam,
The speed of light is a constant, but it simply can not be constant
to all observers because speed is relative.
If speed is relative, it means all speeds are so.
There is no one speed that is not relative.
BTW:
Length and time are not actually relative.
you have completely lost the science of measurement when
you believe such.
Length measurements can change by illusions or by actual physical
forces changing the length of a measurement device.
(such as a meter stick that is changed because of a heat difference)
Time is not actually relative and the only so calld proof
of such is bad clocks and misundertandings for how clocks
work and what they were invented for.
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| User: "Cam Jones" |
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18 Mar 2006 10:47:22 AM |
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I do not know. I am trying to come to a conclusion regarding this
matter, and I hope you will help me.
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| User: "Igor" |
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| Title: Re: Constants |
19 Mar 2006 01:46:59 PM |
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Spaceman wrote:
"Cam Jones" <onespiritedgal93@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1142699476.141344.244670@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Mister Driscoll, better known as "Spaceman", believes that the speed of
light is not constant, contrary to popular belief. I would like to see
his evidence supporting his theory.
The speed of light is constant, it is just not the same speed to all
observers
because speed is relative.
Do you think lightwaves are all powerful enough to ignore relative speeds?
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Sometimes it takes me awhile to get to the gazornenplat too.
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| User: "RP" |
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19 Mar 2006 01:55:48 PM |
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Igor wrote:
Spaceman wrote:
"Cam Jones" <onespiritedgal93@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1142699476.141344.244670@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Mister Driscoll, better known as "Spaceman", believes that the speed of
light is not constant, contrary to popular belief. I would like to see
his evidence supporting his theory.
The speed of light is constant, it is just not the same speed to all
observers
because speed is relative.
Do you think lightwaves are all powerful enough to ignore relative speeds?
dfjkdsakfjsdaqew9urewq9u243-95743290785ujtvfvnslkdgjapgfuewqtwur90243175uwwjfjrtirthqwrhne;rlhwerhlwqrrhklqndfsnfdndsafndsnf;dlkfdsanfkdsnfsnkfejqwrjrrjerewjhvnvjdfkjdfoiwpupiewourewdsalkfslak;fjf
Sometimes it takes me awhile to get to the gazornenplat too.
I didn't even see the "to be, or not to be". Better keep at it.
Richard Perry
"We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million
type-writers will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare.
Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true."
: : [Robert Wilensky (1997), in the "Oxford Dictionary of Modern
Quotations", published September 2002.]
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| User: "Hexenmeister" |
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| Title: Re: Constants |
19 Mar 2006 02:47:22 PM |
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"RP" <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Igor wrote:
| > Spaceman wrote:
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| >>"Cam Jones" <onespiritedgal93@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
| >>news:1142699476.141344.244670@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| >>
| >>>Mister Driscoll, better known as "Spaceman", believes that the speed of
| >>>light is not constant, contrary to popular belief. I would like to see
| >>>his evidence supporting his theory.
| >>
| >>The speed of light is constant, it is just not the same speed to all
| >>observers
| >>because speed is relative.
| >>Do you think lightwaves are all powerful enough to ignore relative
speeds?
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| >
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| > Sometimes it takes me awhile to get to the gazornenplat too.
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| I didn't even see the "to be, or not to be". Better keep at it.
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| Richard Perry
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| "We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million
| type-writers will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare.
| Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true."
| : : [Robert Wilensky (1997), in the "Oxford Dictionary of Modern
| Quotations", published September 2002.]
But it is true.
http://www-tech.mit.edu/Shakespeare/macbeth/
SCENE I. A cavern. In the middle, a boiling cauldron.
Thunder. Enter the three Witches
First Witch
Thrice the brinded cat hath mew'd.
Second Witch
Thrice and once the hedge-pig whined.
Third Witch
Harpier cries 'Tis time, 'tis time.
First Witch
Round about the cauldron go;
In the poison'd entrails throw.
Toad, that under cold stone
Days and nights has thirty-one
Swelter'd venom sleeping got,
Boil thou first i' the charmed pot.
ALL
Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and cauldron bubble.
Second Witch
Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the cauldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt and toe of frog,
Wool of bat and tongue of dog,
Adder's fork and blind-worm's sting,
Lizard's leg and owlet's wing,
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.
ALL
Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn and cauldron bubble.
Third Witch
Scale of dragon, tooth of wolf,
Witches' mummy, maw and gulf
Of the ravin'd salt-sea shark,
Root of hemlock digg'd i' the dark,
Liver of blaspheming Jew,
Gall of goat, and slips of yew
Silver'd in the moon's eclipse,
Nose of Turk and Tartar's lips,
Finger of birth-strangled babe
Ditch-deliver'd by a drab,
Make the gruel thick and slab:
Add thereto a tiger's chaudron,
For the ingredients of our cauldron.
ALL
Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn and cauldron bubble.
Second Witch
Cool it with a baboon's blood,
Then the charm is firm and good.
Enter HECATE to the other three Witches
HECATE
O well done! I commend your pains;
And every one shall share i' the gains;
And now about the cauldron sing,
Live elves and fairies in a ring,
Enchanting all that you put in.
Music and a song: 'Black spirits,' & c
HECATE retires
Second Witch
By the pricking of my thumbs,
Something wicked this way comes.
Open, locks,
Whoever knocks!
Enter MACBETH
MACBETH
How now, you secret, black, and midnight hags!
What is't you do?
ALL
A deed without a name.
MACBETH
I conjure you, by that which you profess,
Howe'er you come to know it, answer me:
Though you untie the winds and let them fight
Against the churches; though the yesty waves
Confound and swallow navigation up;
Though bladed corn be lodged and trees blown down;
Though castles topple on their warders' heads;
Though palaces and pyramids do slope
Their heads to their foundations; though the treasure
Of nature's germens tumble all together,
Even till destruction sicken; answer me
To what I ask you.
First Witch
Speak.
Second Witch
Demand.
Third Witch
We'll answer.
First Witch
Say, if thou'dst rather hear it from our mouths,
Or from our masters?
MACBETH
Call 'em; let me see 'em.
First Witch
Pour in sow's blood, that hath eaten
Her nine farrow; grease that's sweaten
From the murderer's gibbet throw
Into the flame.
ALL
Come, high or low;
Thyself and office deftly show!
Thunder. First Apparition: an armed Head
MACBETH
Tell me, thou unknown power,--
First Witch
He knows thy thought:
Hear his speech, but say thou nought.
First Apparition
Macbeth! Macbeth! Macbeth! beware Macduff;
Beware the thane of Fife. Dismiss me. Enough.
Descends
MACBETH
Whate'er thou art, for thy good caution, thanks;
Thou hast harp'd my fear aright: but one
word more,--
First Witch
He will not be commanded: here's another,
More potent than the first.
Thunder. Second Apparition: A bloody Child
Second Apparition
Macbeth! Macbeth! Macbeth!
MACBETH
Had I three ears, I'ld hear thee.
Second Apparition
Be bloody, bold, and resolute; laugh to scorn
The power of man, for none of woman born
Shall harm Macbeth.
Descends
MACBETH
Then live, Macduff: what need I fear of thee?
But yet I'll make assurance double sure,
And take a bond of fate: thou shalt not live;
That I may tell pale-hearted fear it lies,
And sleep in spite of thunder.
Thunder. Third Apparition: a Child crowned, with a tree in his hand
What is this
That rises like the issue of a king,
And wears upon his baby-brow the round
And top of sovereignty?
ALL
Listen, but speak not to't.
Third Apparition
Be lion-mettled, proud; and take no care
Who chafes, who frets, or where conspirers are:
Macbeth shall never vanquish'd be until
Great Birnam wood to high Dunsinane hill
Shall come against him.
Descends
MACBETH
That will never be
Who can impress the forest, bid the tree
Unfix his earth-bound root? Sweet bodements! good!
Rebellion's head, rise never till the wood
Of Birnam rise, and our high-placed Macbeth
Shall live the lease of nature, pay his breath
To time and mortal custom. Yet my heart
Throbs to know one thing: tell me, if your art
Can tell so much: shall Banquo's issue ever
Reign in this kingdom?
ALL
Seek to know no more.
MACBETH
I will be satisfied: deny me this,
And an eternal curse fall on you! Let me know.
Why sinks that cauldron? and what noise is this?
Hautboys
First Witch
Show!
Second Witch
Show!
Third Witch
Show!
ALL
Show his eyes, and grieve his heart;
Come like shadows, so depart!
A show of Eight Kings, the last with a glass in his hand; GHOST OF BANQUO
following
MACBETH
Thou art too like the spirit of Banquo: down!
Thy crown does sear mine eye-balls. And thy hair,
Thou other gold-bound brow, is like the first.
A third is like the former. Filthy hags!
Why do you show me this? A fourth! Start, eyes!
What, will the line stretch out to the crack of doom?
Another yet! A seventh! I'll see no more:
And yet the eighth appears, who bears a glass
Which shows me many more; and some I see
That two-fold balls and treble scepters carry:
Horrible sight! Now, I see, 'tis true;
For the blood-bolter'd Banquo smiles upon me,
And points at them for his.
Apparitions vanish
What, is this so?
First Witch
Ay, sir, all this is so: but why
Stands Macbeth thus amazedly?
Come, sisters, cheer we up his sprites,
And show the best of our delights:
I'll charm the air to give a sound,
While you perform your antic round:
That this great king may kindly say,
Our duties did his welcome pay.
Music. The witches dance and then vanish, with HECATE
MACBETH
Where are they? Gone? Let this pernicious hour
Stand aye accursed in the calendar!
Come in, without there!
Enter LENNOX
LENNOX
What's your grace's will?
MACBETH
Saw you the weird sisters?
LENNOX
No, my lord.
MACBETH
Came they not by you?
LENNOX
No, indeed, my lord.
MACBETH
Infected be the air whereon they ride;
And damn'd all those that trust them! I did hear
The galloping of horse: who was't came by?
LENNOX
'Tis two or three, my lord, that bring you word
Macduff is fled to England.
MACBETH
Fled to England!
LENNOX
Ay, my good lord.
MACBETH
Time, thou anticipatest my dread exploits:
The flighty purpose never is o'ertook
Unless the deed go with it; from this moment
The very firstlings of my heart shall be
The firstlings of my hand. And even now,
To crown my thoughts with acts, be it thought and done:
The castle of Macduff I will surprise;
Seize upon Fife; give to the edge o' the sword
His wife, his babes, and all unfortunate souls
That trace him in his line. No boasting like a fool;
This deed I'll do before this purpose cool.
But no more sights!--Where are these gentlemen?
Come, bring me where they are.
Exeunt
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| User: "Hexenmeister" |
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| Title: Re: Constants |
18 Mar 2006 11:10:54 AM |
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"Cam Jones" <onespiritedgal93@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1142699476.141344.244670@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Mister Driscoll, better known as "Spaceman", believes that the speed of
| light is not constant, contrary to popular belief.
Mr. Driscoll is correct.
| I would like to see his evidence supporting his theory.
The front of a car gets to its destination before the red glow from the
brake
warning signal at the rear. Thus the car wins and is therefore faster than
light.
I do not know what other evidence Mr Driscoll has, but this is proof
that the velocity of light is less than 30 mph. It may even be negative.
Androcles.
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| User: "Cam Jones" |
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| Title: Re: Constants |
18 Mar 2006 11:15:00 AM |
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It depends on the material of its medim:
water- Low positive
Earth's atmosphere- High positive
Ether (space)- Negative? Very low positive?
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| User: "Hexenmeister" |
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18 Mar 2006 11:38:05 AM |
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"Cam Jones" <onespiritedgal93@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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| It depends on the material of its medim:
| water- Low positive
| Earth's atmosphere- High positive
| Ether (space)- Negative? Very low positive?
No matter what the medim, the vulucuty uf lught us duruectuunul.
Androcles.
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18 Mar 2006 10:21:56 PM |
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Cam Jones wrote:
Mister Driscoll, better known as "Spaceman", believes that the speed of
light is not constant, contrary to popular belief. I would like to see
his evidence supporting his theory.
Driscoll is extremely stupid, willfully ignorant, arogant, and vulgar.
You can learn nothing from him.
Paul Cardinale
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22 Mar 2006 05:28:17 PM |
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Please give me EVIDENCE to support that, Mr. Cardinale.
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| User: "dedanoe" |
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19 Mar 2006 05:09:59 AM |
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nothing is constant cause nothing got nothing to change!
all varies cause all got all to change!
http://dedanoe.tripod.com
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| User: "Puppet_Sock" |
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21 Mar 2006 09:17:55 AM |
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Cam Jones wrote:
[snipped]
Please don't feed the troll. And if you must, please don't do it in
sci.physics,
but in sci.physics.relativity where it belongs.
Socks
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