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"Sam Wormley" |
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06 Jan 2004 10:01:05 PM |
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Controlled fusion: the next step |
Ref: http://physicsweb.org/article/world/17/1/6
The next generation of fusion experiments will require major advances in
plasma heating and improvements in the methods used to keep components
cool
See: http://physicsweb.org/article/world/17/1/6
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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| Title: Re: Controlled fusion: the next step |
07 Jan 2004 10:34:45 AM |
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Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:<3FFB847A.E028587D@mchsi.com>...
Ref: http://physicsweb.org/article/world/17/1/6
The next generation of fusion experiments will require major advances in
plasma heating and improvements in the methods used to keep components
cool
See: http://physicsweb.org/article/world/17/1/6
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nothing will work efficient enough
without a better understanding the Alpha particle
(better than now people think they know it)
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Y.porat
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| User: "S. Enterprize Company" |
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| Title: Re: Controlled fusion: the next step |
08 Jan 2004 11:18:55 PM |
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Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:<3FFB847A.E028587D@mchsi.com>...
Ref: http://physicsweb.org/article/world/17/1/6
The next generation of fusion experiments will require major advances in
plasma heating and improvements in the methods used to keep components
cool
See: http://physicsweb.org/article/world/17/1/6
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nothing will work efficient enough
without a better understanding the Alpha particle
(better than now people think they know it)
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Y.porat
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Smart Model Fusion works theoretically. But I can't help it if I have free
will choice and human rights and will not follow evil or the devil. I can say
whatever I want to. Oh will I go to hell on earth for a free will choice and
believing in God ( Father, Son and Holy Spirit). No. I might suffer my butt off
for believing in God, but in the end, The Smart Model will be shown to be the
best atomic model. Anyone that has to be forced to believe in an evil being is
stupid, and is damned. Believe in God, and let them damn you on earth. So
what??? Who knows maybe the dammers haven't felt bad enough yet. Reject me and
the Smart Model, oh I'm so upset. Fires of hell, oh ouch it hurts, blah blah
blah. Worst than hell is on the way. Let's see if they still damn me.
hehehehehe
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http://pub39.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=3320272813&cpv=1
S. Enterprize (Science Journal)
http://smart1234.s-enterprize.com/
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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| Title: Re: Controlled fusion: the next step |
07 Jan 2004 10:58:56 AM |
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Sam Wormley wrote:
Ref: http://physicsweb.org/article/world/17/1/6
The next generation of fusion experiments will require major advances in
plasma heating and improvements in the methods used to keep components
cool
See: http://physicsweb.org/article/world/17/1/6
It's horrible *****. Even if it finally worked as a physics
experiment it would be utterly useless as a power generator and vastly
more dirty than a nuclear reactor. Nobody has problems handling heavy
element fissile materials or extracting energy from MeV fission
fragments (i.e., thermal excitation). Nobody can imagine leaklessly
handling megacuries of tritium inventory or extracting energy from 10
MeV neutrons. Only a madman would place a 100,000,000 K temperature
plus massive 10 MeV neutron environment hard by monster supercon
windings. Supercon windings at 4 K generating maximally high magnetic
fields don't tolerate either one. If you run copper coils instead you
have a modern day Newcomen engine - half the output of your endeavor
does nothing but fuel the engine.
Handling fission products is mere chemistry if isolated from political
bushwa. Only the immediate reactor environment is activated. A
fusion reactor would rapidly become a giant ball of radioactive mess,
and every stream into and out of the thing would be radiologically
hot, hot, hot. Leak tritium into the world and you foul the planet -
quick atmospheric oxidation to water. H-bomb testing loaded the whole
world with tritium. That would be nothing compared to SOP leakage
from fusion power plants.
Uncle A says, "If you need even one PhD to run your production line,
you don't have a production line."
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" The Net!
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| User: "Rene Tschaggelar" |
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| Title: Re: Controlled fusion: the next step |
09 Jan 2004 06:01:11 AM |
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Uncle Al wrote:
Uncle A says, "If you need even one PhD to run your production line,
you don't have a production line."
Absolutely great. May I cite you ?
Rene
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Ing.Buero R.Tschaggelar - http://www.ibrtses.com
& commercial newsgroups - http://www.talkto.net
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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| Title: Re: Controlled fusion: the next step |
09 Jan 2004 10:31:51 AM |
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Rene Tschaggelar wrote:
Uncle Al wrote:
Uncle A says, "If you need even one PhD to run your production line,
you don't have a production line."
Absolutely great. May I cite you ?
Sure! A couple of decades of industrial experience are eloquent. You
hire a person of sufficient abilities that they can be trained for one
specific task. They don't get bored and they don't "innovate." You
don't want production personnel playing around with medical device
certified manufacture or nuclear reactor operation.
An Uncle Al innovation at Pharmacia Ophthalmics was a process that
required apportioning and mixing three fluids - two vacuum degassed,
the third never opened to air, the whole mixed and delivered under
inert gas. The secret was three dumbbell vessels whose narrower neck
had a line enameled. Suck in the liquid, pump under vacuum with an
internal stirbar, backfill with nitrogen. Swivel the thing vertical
like an hourglass, drain to the line. That was the correct volume of
stuff for the next step.
Engineer, "There are no numbers! How will they know they have the
correct volume?"
Uncle Al, "They drain to the calibrated line."
Engineer, "They don't know how much volume they have!"
Uncle Al, "They have the *correct* volume."
Training the basically capable production people was a lot easier than
educating the degreed staff. Device physical yield went from ~80% to
95+%. The saline contact angle spec was "less than 25 degrees" and it
was a ***** to hit. After installing Uncle Al's anti-engineering
line, it was never more than 20 degrees and we often hit 18 degrees,
which is awesome for a Plexiglas substrate. You'd think there would
have been gratitude.
Uncle Al says, "How can Management be held responsible when they never
lift the heavy end? Management makes decisions, workers make
mistakes."
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" The Net!
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Controlled fusion: the next step |
14 Jan 2004 04:28:36 PM |
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In article <btmnl5$cra$1@hood.uits.indiana.edu>, (Gregory L. Hansen) writes:
In article <3FFED777.84710B3D@hate.spam.net>,
Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote:
Uncle Al says, "How can Management be held responsible when they never
lift the heavy end? Management makes decisions, workers make
mistakes."
My advisor said when he comes to a new project he pays attention to who
is being complained about, and that's the person he wants to talk to
because that's the person doing the work.
Wise, very wise:-)
Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool,
meron@cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"
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| User: "gis" |
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| Title: Re: Controlled fusion: the next step |
14 Jan 2004 10:44:43 PM |
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controlled fusion is 50+ years away, from an "ignition" state that is.......
<mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message
news:oojNb.11$_4.4185@news.uchicago.edu...
In article <btmnl5$cra$1@hood.uits.indiana.edu>,
glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu (Gregory L. Hansen) writes:
In article <3FFED777.84710B3D@hate.spam.net>,
Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote:
Uncle Al says, "How can Management be held responsible when they never
lift the heavy end? Management makes decisions, workers make
mistakes."
My advisor said when he comes to a new project he pays attention to who
is being complained about, and that's the person he wants to talk to
because that's the person doing the work.
Wise, very wise:-)
Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool,
meron@cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"
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| User: "Robert J. Kolker" |
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| Title: Re: Controlled fusion: the next step |
09 Jan 2004 10:42:52 AM |
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Uncle Al wrote:
Uncle Al says, "How can Management be held responsible when they never
lift the heavy end? Management makes decisions, workers make
mistakes."
That is the essence of -Dilbert-.
Bob Kolker
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