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"Pentcho Valev" |
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20 Apr 2007 01:00:21 AM |
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DIGNITARIES AND THE DEATH OF THEORETICAL SCIENCE |
It seems dignitaries now believe that the century old money-spinner
called "I WORSHIP EINSTEIN" should be abandoned:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2057529,00.html "Few
scientists need the final results, which will be revealed in December,
to convince them of Einstein's genius. 'From the most esoteric aspects
of time dilation through to the beautiful and simple equation, e=mc2,
the vast bulk of Einstein's ideas about the universe are standing up
to the test of time,' said Robert Massey, from the Royal Astronomical
Society. He said the mission was 'legitimate science' to test a theory
and confirm its brilliance, but others have criticised the costs and
length of the study, claiming that what was announced had already been
shown. Sir Martin Rees, the Astronomer Royal, said the announcement
would 'fork no lightning'."
Dignitaries even have some ideas about the new money-spinner whose
name will undoubtedly be "I IMPROVE ON EINSTEIN":
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/519406/posts : "A GROUP of
astronomers and cosmologists has warned that the laws thought to
govern the universe, including Albert Einstein's theory of relativity,
must be rewritten. The group, which includes Professor Stephen Hawking
and Sir Martin Rees, the astronomer royal, say such laws may only work
for our universe but not in others that are now also thought to
exist.....AMONG THE IDEAS FACING REVISION IS EINSTEIN'S BELIEF THAT
THE SPEED OF LIGHT MUST ALWAYS BE THE SAME - 186,000 miles a second in
a vacuum.....Rees, Hawking and others are so concerned at the impact
of such ideas that they recently organised a private conference in
Cambridge for more than 30 leading cosmologists."
The only problem is the deductive nature of theoretical science. Just
change a single initial assumption and the whole theoretical castle
collapses. What makes things worse is that, at the end of his life,
the divine juggler suddenly became honest and made awful confessions:
Einstein: "If the speed of light is the least bit affected by the
speed of the light source, then my whole theory of relativity and
theory of gravity is false."
Einstein again: "I consider it quite possible that physics cannot be
based on the field concept, i.e., on continuous structures. In that
case, nothing remains of my entire castle in the air, gravitation
theory included, [and of] the rest of modern physics."
Pentcho Valev
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| Title: Re: DIGNITARIES AND THE DEATH OF THEORETICAL SCIENCE |
20 Apr 2007 12:15:30 PM |
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On Apr 19, 11:00 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It seems dignitaries now believe that the century old money-spinner
called "I WORSHIP EINSTEIN" should be abandoned:
I don't know what you mean by "money spinner" and "worship Einstein" -
both are childish nonsense.
As far as abandoning aspects of a physical theory - yes, this is how
all physical theories developed in the past. Why did you expect
relativity would be an exception?
--
Jan Bielawski
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| User: "Androcles" |
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| Title: Re: DIGNITARIES AND THE DEATH OF THEORETICAL SCIENCE |
20 Apr 2007 12:31:49 PM |
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"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message =
news:1177089330.894504.285510@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 19, 11:00 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It seems dignitaries now believe that the century old money-spinner
called "I WORSHIP EINSTEIN" should be abandoned:
=20
I don't know what you mean by "money spinner" and "worship Einstein" -
both are childish nonsense.
Ah, so you don't know, therefore it is childish nonsense. =20
How very Polish.
Oddly enough, Galileo made the identical error.
"Among the great men who have philosophized about [the action of the =
tides], the one who surprised me most is Kepler. He was a person of =
independent genius, [but he] became interested in the action of the moon =
on the water, and in other occult phenomena, and similar childishness. "
=20
As far as abandoning aspects of a physical theory - yes, this is how
all physical theories developed in the past. Why did you expect
relativity would be an exception?
Actually tidal theory developed out of the childish nonsense of the Moon =
influencing the waters. What aspect of relativity should be retained=20
and what should be rejected?
I'd say keep the first postulate, ditch the rest.=20
But then, the first postulate was known long before Einstein.
"In view of this dilemma there appears to be nothing else for it than to =
abandon either the principle of relativity or the simple law of the =
propagation of light in vacuo. "
"Prominent theoretical physicists were therefore more inclined to reject =
the principle of relativity"
Guess who wrote that crap?
http://www.bartleby.com/173/7.html
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: DIGNITARIES AND THE DEATH OF THEORETICAL SCIENCE |
20 Apr 2007 11:59:02 AM |
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On Apr 20, 7:00 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It seems dignitaries now believe that the century old money-spinner
called "I WORSHIP EINSTEIN" should be abandoned:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2057529,00.html"Few
scientists need the final results, which will be revealed in December,
to convince them of Einstein's genius. 'From the most esoteric aspects
of time dilation through to the beautiful and simple equation, e=mc2,
the vast bulk of Einstein's ideas about the universe are standing up
to the test of time,' said Robert Massey, from the Royal Astronomical
Society. He said the mission was 'legitimate science' to test a theory
and confirm its brilliance, but others have criticised the costs and
length of the study, claiming that what was announced had already been
shown. Sir Martin Rees, the Astronomer Royal, said the announcement
would 'fork no lightning'."
Thats a good line.
You are all fork and no lightning!
lol
Well we know he wasn't quite right. And we know that the recent data
is in accordance with the expanding man model.
And Black Holes do explode.
So it is something that needs to be addressed.
Everyone tends to just attach things to Einstein as he was close, but
no cigar, and he himself knew that he was close, and worked until his
death on trying to find that last piece to the puzzle.
It turns out it is quite simple, in retrospect, but until you find
something, it is never simple.
Dignitaries even have some ideas about the new money-spinner whose
name will undoubtedly be "I IMPROVE ON EINSTEIN":
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/519406/posts: "A GROUP of
astronomers and cosmologists has warned that the laws thought to
govern the universe, including Albert Einstein's theory of relativity,
must be rewritten. The group, which includes Professor Stephen Hawking
and Sir Martin Rees, the astronomer royal, say such laws may only work
for our universe but not in others that are now also thought to
exist.....AMONG THE IDEAS FACING REVISION IS EINSTEIN'S BELIEF THAT
THE SPEED OF LIGHT MUST ALWAYS BE THE SAME - 186,000 miles a second in
a vacuum.....Rees, Hawking and others are so concerned at the impact
of such ideas that they recently organised a private conference in
Cambridge for more than 30 leading cosmologists."
The only problem is the deductive nature of theoretical science. Just
change a single initial assumption and the whole theoretical castle
collapses. What makes things worse is that, at the end of his life,
the divine juggler suddenly became honest and made awful confessions:
Einstein: "If the speed of light is the least bit affected by the
speed of the light source, then my whole theory of relativity and
theory of gravity is false."
Einstein again: "I consider it quite possible that physics cannot be
based on the field concept, i.e., on continuous structures. In that
case, nothing remains of my entire castle in the air, gravitation
theory included, [and of] the rest of modern physics."
Pentcho Valev
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: DIGNITARIES AND THE DEATH OF THEORETICAL SCIENCE |
20 Apr 2007 09:42:51 PM |
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On Apr 20, 5:59 pm, wrote:
On Apr 20, 7:00 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It seems dignitaries now believe that the century old money-spinner
called "I WORSHIP EINSTEIN" should be abandoned:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2057529,00.html"Few
scientists need the final results, which will be revealed in December,
to convince them of Einstein's genius. 'From the most esoteric aspects
of time dilation through to the beautiful and simple equation, e=mc2,
the vast bulk of Einstein's ideas about the universe are standing up
to the test of time,' said Robert Massey, from the Royal Astronomical
Society. He said the mission was 'legitimate science' to test a theory
and confirm its brilliance, but others have criticised the costs and
length of the study, claiming that what was announced had already been
shown. Sir Martin Rees, the Astronomer Royal, said the announcement
would 'fork no lightning'."
Thats a good line.
You are all fork and no lightning!
lol
Well we know he wasn't quite right. And we know that the recent data
is in accordance with the expanding man model.
And Black Holes do explode.
So it is something that needs to be addressed.
Everyone tends to just attach things to Einstein as he was close, but
no cigar, and he himself knew that he was close, and worked until his
death on trying to find that last piece to the puzzle.
It turns out it is quite simple, in retrospect, but until you find
something, it is never simple.
You know what I think might be happening, is at the center of a black
hole, when a super massive black hole explodes, something has to set
it off, so its possible that it does the Bosenova.
It hits absolute 0, perhaps simply from the pressure of its own mass,
some of the mass becomes one with the quantum foam, forms a vacuum,
the rest of the mass rushes in, impacts itself, and then explodes.
So is that like a singulartity, not really. A singularity would be if
absolute space-time was granular, not expanding like the quantum foam
is expanding. One quantum foam bubble could be seen as a singularity
in the sense that that is the smallest anything real can be in the
universe. One Plank length in diameter.
I don't know exactly what is going on in there but I suspect that
Stephen and his gang of merry men will have some idea based on the
recent data.
Dignitaries even have some ideas about the new money-spinner whose
name will undoubtedly be "I IMPROVE ON EINSTEIN":
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/519406/posts:"A GROUP of
astronomers and cosmologists has warned that the laws thought to
govern the universe, including Albert Einstein's theory of relativity,
must be rewritten. The group, which includes Professor Stephen Hawking
and Sir Martin Rees, the astronomer royal, say such laws may only work
for our universe but not in others that are now also thought to
exist.....AMONG THE IDEAS FACING REVISION IS EINSTEIN'S BELIEF THAT
THE SPEED OF LIGHT MUST ALWAYS BE THE SAME - 186,000 miles a second in
a vacuum.....Rees, Hawking and others are so concerned at the impact
of such ideas that they recently organised a private conference in
Cambridge for more than 30 leading cosmologists."
The only problem is the deductive nature of theoretical science. Just
change a single initial assumption and the whole theoretical castle
collapses. What makes things worse is that, at the end of his life,
the divine juggler suddenly became honest and made awful confessions:
Einstein: "If the speed of light is the least bit affected by the
speed of the light source, then my whole theory of relativity and
theory of gravity is false."
Einstein again: "I consider it quite possible that physics cannot be
based on the field concept, i.e., on continuous structures. In that
case, nothing remains of my entire castle in the air, gravitation
theory included, [and of] the rest of modern physics."
Pentcho Valev
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| Title: Re: DIGNITARIES AND THE DEATH OF THEORETICAL SCIENCE |
20 Apr 2007 10:19:08 PM |
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On Apr 21, 3:42 am, wrote:
On Apr 20, 5:59 pm, wrote:
On Apr 20, 7:00 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It seems dignitaries now believe that the century old money-spinner
called "I WORSHIP EINSTEIN" should be abandoned:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2057529,00.html"Few
scientists need the final results, which will be revealed in December,
to convince them of Einstein's genius. 'From the most esoteric aspects
of time dilation through to the beautiful and simple equation, e=mc2,
the vast bulk of Einstein's ideas about the universe are standing up
to the test of time,' said Robert Massey, from the Royal Astronomical
Society. He said the mission was 'legitimate science' to test a theory
and confirm its brilliance, but others have criticised the costs and
length of the study, claiming that what was announced had already been
shown. Sir Martin Rees, the Astronomer Royal, said the announcement
would 'fork no lightning'."
Thats a good line.
You are all fork and no lightning!
lol
Well we know he wasn't quite right. And we know that the recent data
is in accordance with the expanding man model.
And Black Holes do explode.
So it is something that needs to be addressed.
Everyone tends to just attach things to Einstein as he was close, but
no cigar, and he himself knew that he was close, and worked until his
death on trying to find that last piece to the puzzle.
It turns out it is quite simple, in retrospect, but until you find
something, it is never simple.
You know what I think might be happening, is at the center of a black
hole, when a super massive black hole explodes, something has to set
it off, so its possible that it does the Bosenova.
It hits absolute 0, perhaps simply from the pressure of its own mass,
some of the mass becomes one with the quantum foam, forms a vacuum,
the rest of the mass rushes in, impacts itself, and then explodes.
So is that like a singulartity, not really. A singularity would be if
absolute space-time was granular, not expanding like the quantum foam
is expanding. One quantum foam bubble could be seen as a singularity
in the sense that that is the smallest anything real can be in the
universe. One Plank length in diameter.
I don't know exactly what is going on in there but I suspect that
Stephen and his gang of merry men will have some idea based on the
recent data.
I suppose there is another possibility, that the foam itself can no
longer expand at that pressure, and maybe even the pressure overcomes
the pressure inside that bubble, so that it collapses like a matter
anti-matter explosion.
But it would not be one bubble, it would be a bunch of bubbles
overcome at once.
The quantum foam squished flat, which would cause not your usual
vacuum of space but a wormhole. A perfect vacuum.
So then it is a smaller scale version of the Bosenova, as the Bosenova
would be similar to that described previously.
There seems to be some curious effects with that explosion, such that
it did not appear to have visible light.
So maybe it is causing an explosion that rips through the foam itself
in a way. We don't have any real examples of wormholes to study in
nature. So maybe it causes a hole in the fabric of space-time and the
pull is on the rest of the foam, in to fill that void, and the mass in
there is carried along with it. Exploding as well but perhaps not the
prime factor in that huge destructive force.
http://www.world-science.net/othernews/050105_spaceblastfrm.htm
I would think it was the foam. Otherwise there would be light and it
would be a supernova style explosion.
Dignitaries even have some ideas about the new money-spinner whose
name will undoubtedly be "I IMPROVE ON EINSTEIN":
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/519406/posts:"A GROUP of
astronomers and cosmologists has warned that the laws thought to
govern the universe, including Albert Einstein's theory of relativity,
must be rewritten. The group, which includes Professor Stephen Hawking
and Sir Martin Rees, the astronomer royal, say such laws may only work
for our universe but not in others that are now also thought to
exist.....AMONG THE IDEAS FACING REVISION IS EINSTEIN'S BELIEF THAT
THE SPEED OF LIGHT MUST ALWAYS BE THE SAME - 186,000 miles a second in
a vacuum.....Rees, Hawking and others are so concerned at the impact
of such ideas that they recently organised a private conference in
Cambridge for more than 30 leading cosmologists."
The only problem is the deductive nature of theoretical science. Just
change a single initial assumption and the whole theoretical castle
collapses. What makes things worse is that, at the end of his life,
the divine juggler suddenly became honest and made awful confessions:
Einstein: "If the speed of light is the least bit affected by the
speed of the light source, then my whole theory of relativity and
theory of gravity is false."
Einstein again: "I consider it quite possible that physics cannot be
based on the field concept, i.e., on continuous structures. In that
case, nothing remains of my entire castle in the air, gravitation
theory included, [and of] the rest of modern physics."
Pentcho Valev
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: DIGNITARIES AND THE DEATH OF THEORETICAL SCIENCE |
20 Apr 2007 11:18:42 PM |
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On Apr 21, 4:19 am, wrote:
On Apr 21, 3:42 am, wrote:
On Apr 20, 5:59 pm, wrote:
On Apr 20, 7:00 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It seems dignitaries now believe that the century old money-spinner
called "I WORSHIP EINSTEIN" should be abandoned:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2057529,00.html"Few
scientists need the final results, which will be revealed in December,
to convince them of Einstein's genius. 'From the most esoteric aspects
of time dilation through to the beautiful and simple equation, e=mc2,
the vast bulk of Einstein's ideas about the universe are standing up
to the test of time,' said Robert Massey, from the Royal Astronomical
Society. He said the mission was 'legitimate science' to test a theory
and confirm its brilliance, but others have criticised the costs and
length of the study, claiming that what was announced had already been
shown. Sir Martin Rees, the Astronomer Royal, said the announcement
would 'fork no lightning'."
Thats a good line.
You are all fork and no lightning!
lol
Well we know he wasn't quite right. And we know that the recent data
is in accordance with the expanding man model.
And Black Holes do explode.
So it is something that needs to be addressed.
Everyone tends to just attach things to Einstein as he was close, but
no cigar, and he himself knew that he was close, and worked until his
death on trying to find that last piece to the puzzle.
It turns out it is quite simple, in retrospect, but until you find
something, it is never simple.
You know what I think might be happening, is at the center of a black
hole, when a super massive black hole explodes, something has to set
it off, so its possible that it does the Bosenova.
It hits absolute 0, perhaps simply from the pressure of its own mass,
some of the mass becomes one with the quantum foam, forms a vacuum,
the rest of the mass rushes in, impacts itself, and then explodes.
So is that like a singulartity, not really. A singularity would be if
absolute space-time was granular, not expanding like the quantum foam
is expanding. One quantum foam bubble could be seen as a singularity
in the sense that that is the smallest anything real can be in the
universe. One Plank length in diameter.
I don't know exactly what is going on in there but I suspect that
Stephen and his gang of merry men will have some idea based on the
recent data.
I suppose there is another possibility, that the foam itself can no
longer expand at that pressure, and maybe even the pressure overcomes
the pressure inside that bubble, so that it collapses like a matter
anti-matter explosion.
But it would not be one bubble, it would be a bunch of bubbles
overcome at once.
The quantum foam squished flat, which would cause not your usual
vacuum of space but a wormhole. A perfect vacuum.
So then it is a smaller scale version of the Bosenova, as the Bosenova
would be similar to that described previously.
There seems to be some curious effects with that explosion, such that
it did not appear to have visible light.
So maybe it is causing an explosion that rips through the foam itself
in a way. We don't have any real examples of wormholes to study in
nature. So maybe it causes a hole in the fabric of space-time and the
pull is on the rest of the foam, in to fill that void, and the mass in
there is carried along with it. Exploding as well but perhaps not the
prime factor in that huge destructive force.http://www.world-science.net/othernews/050105_spaceblastfrm.htm
I would think it was the foam. Otherwise there would be light and it
would be a supernova style explosion.
You can see it better here...
http://news.research.ohiou.edu/news/index.php?item=91
So it explodes, and the two cavities there are caused from the rush to
fill in the vacuum.
So it looks to me, like you have maybe a Bosenova as part of it, a
Supernova. and you have a wormhole in the center, and the foam rushes
in to fill that hole.
So how that all works might be a number of things but either the
nuclei become one with the foam, as part of that, and if the foam gets
flattened, then the wormhole is created.
So the pressure creates a Bose Einstein condensate, the nuclei stop
expanding, but it does the Bosenova, and I would have thought you
needed momentum to do that, so maybe it gets too massive and collapses
past that from external pressure and internal pressure from
expansion, so the collapse must entail some momentum, and that
collapses the foam, and then the wormhole is formed, and the foam
rushes in creating those two cavities..
So there are x-rays, but no visible light. so the nuclei are sending
out waves through the foam in that explosion.
And if that is a large scale Bosenova then you would think that a
small scale Bosenova would emit x-rays as well.
And it must.
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| Title: Re: DIGNITARIES AND THE DEATH OF THEORETICAL SCIENCE |
20 Apr 2007 11:27:48 PM |
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On Apr 21, 5:18 am, wrote:
On Apr 21, 4:19 am, wrote:
On Apr 21, 3:42 am, wrote:
On Apr 20, 5:59 pm, wrote:
On Apr 20, 7:00 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It seems dignitaries now believe that the century old money-spinner
called "I WORSHIP EINSTEIN" should be abandoned:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2057529,00.html"Few
scientists need the final results, which will be revealed in December,
to convince them of Einstein's genius. 'From the most esoteric aspects
of time dilation through to the beautiful and simple equation, e=mc2,
the vast bulk of Einstein's ideas about the universe are standing up
to the test of time,' said Robert Massey, from the Royal Astronomical
Society. He said the mission was 'legitimate science' to test a theory
and confirm its brilliance, but others have criticised the costs and
length of the study, claiming that what was announced had already been
shown. Sir Martin Rees, the Astronomer Royal, said the announcement
would 'fork no lightning'."
Thats a good line.
You are all fork and no lightning!
lol
Well we know he wasn't quite right. And we know that the recent data
is in accordance with the expanding man model.
And Black Holes do explode.
So it is something that needs to be addressed.
Everyone tends to just attach things to Einstein as he was close, but
no cigar, and he himself knew that he was close, and worked until his
death on trying to find that last piece to the puzzle.
It turns out it is quite simple, in retrospect, but until you find
something, it is never simple.
You know what I think might be happening, is at the center of a black
hole, when a super massive black hole explodes, something has to set
it off, so its possible that it does the Bosenova.
It hits absolute 0, perhaps simply from the pressure of its own mass,
some of the mass becomes one with the quantum foam, forms a vacuum,
the rest of the mass rushes in, impacts itself, and then explodes.
So is that like a singulartity, not really. A singularity would be if
absolute space-time was granular, not expanding like the quantum foam
is expanding. One quantum foam bubble could be seen as a singularity
in the sense that that is the smallest anything real can be in the
universe. One Plank length in diameter.
I don't know exactly what is going on in there but I suspect that
Stephen and his gang of merry men will have some idea based on the
recent data.
I suppose there is another possibility, that the foam itself can no
longer expand at that pressure, and maybe even the pressure overcomes
the pressure inside that bubble, so that it collapses like a matter
anti-matter explosion.
But it would not be one bubble, it would be a bunch of bubbles
overcome at once.
The quantum foam squished flat, which would cause not your usual
vacuum of space but a wormhole. A perfect vacuum.
So then it is a smaller scale version of the Bosenova, as the Bosenova
would be similar to that described previously.
There seems to be some curious effects with that explosion, such that
it did not appear to have visible light.
So maybe it is causing an explosion that rips through the foam itself
in a way. We don't have any real examples of wormholes to study in
nature. So maybe it causes a hole in the fabric of space-time and the
pull is on the rest of the foam, in to fill that void, and the mass in
there is carried along with it. Exploding as well but perhaps not the
prime factor in that huge destructive force.http://www.world-science.net/othernews/050105_spaceblastfrm.htm
I would think it was the foam. Otherwise there would be light and it
would be a supernova style explosion.
You can see it better here...http://news.research.ohiou.edu/news/index.php?item=91
So it explodes, and the two cavities there are caused from the rush to
fill in the vacuum.
So it looks to me, like you have maybe a Bosenova as part of it, a
Supernova. and you have a wormhole in the center, and the foam rushes
in to fill that hole.
So how that all works might be a number of things but either the
nuclei become one with the foam, as part of that, and if the foam gets
flattened, then the wormhole is created.
So the pressure creates a Bose Einstein condensate, the nuclei stop
expanding, but it does the Bosenova, and I would have thought you
needed momentum to do that, so maybe it gets too massive and collapses
past that from external pressure and internal pressure from
expansion, so the collapse must entail some momentum, and that
collapses the foam, and then the wormhole is formed, and the foam
rushes in creating those two cavities..
So there are x-rays, but no visible light. so the nuclei are sending
out waves through the foam in that explosion.
And if that is a large scale Bosenova then you would think that a
small scale Bosenova would emit x-rays as well.
And it must.
We are pretty darn close now to understanding what is going on in
there I suspect.
http://www.resonancepub.com/science2002.htm
Take a look at the M.I.T. experiment also regarding the rotating BEC
with the vortices, little Newton's bucket effect, reacting with the
individual quantum foam bubbles of absolute space-time instead of
together as in Newton's bucket on the macro scale.
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| Title: Re: DIGNITARIES AND THE DEATH OF THEORETICAL SCIENCE |
20 Apr 2007 11:38:06 PM |
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On Apr 21, 5:27 am, wrote:
On Apr 21, 5:18 am, wrote:
On Apr 21, 4:19 am, wrote:
On Apr 21, 3:42 am, wrote:
On Apr 20, 5:59 pm, wrote:
On Apr 20, 7:00 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It seems dignitaries now believe that the century old money-spinner
called "I WORSHIP EINSTEIN" should be abandoned:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2057529,00.html"Few
scientists need the final results, which will be revealed in December,
to convince them of Einstein's genius. 'From the most esoteric aspects
of time dilation through to the beautiful and simple equation, e=mc2,
the vast bulk of Einstein's ideas about the universe are standing up
to the test of time,' said Robert Massey, from the Royal Astronomical
Society. He said the mission was 'legitimate science' to test a theory
and confirm its brilliance, but others have criticised the costs and
length of the study, claiming that what was announced had already been
shown. Sir Martin Rees, the Astronomer Royal, said the announcement
would 'fork no lightning'."
Thats a good line.
You are all fork and no lightning!
lol
Well we know he wasn't quite right. And we know that the recent data
is in accordance with the expanding man model.
And Black Holes do explode.
So it is something that needs to be addressed.
Everyone tends to just attach things to Einstein as he was close, but
no cigar, and he himself knew that he was close, and worked until his
death on trying to find that last piece to the puzzle.
It turns out it is quite simple, in retrospect, but until you find
something, it is never simple.
You know what I think might be happening, is at the center of a black
hole, when a super massive black hole explodes, something has to set
it off, so its possible that it does the Bosenova.
It hits absolute 0, perhaps simply from the pressure of its own mass,
some of the mass becomes one with the quantum foam, forms a vacuum,
the rest of the mass rushes in, impacts itself, and then explodes.
So is that like a singulartity, not really. A singularity would be if
absolute space-time was granular, not expanding like the quantum foam
is expanding. One quantum foam bubble could be seen as a singularity
in the sense that that is the smallest anything real can be in the
universe. One Plank length in diameter.
I don't know exactly what is going on in there but I suspect that
Stephen and his gang of merry men will have some idea based on the
recent data.
I suppose there is another possibility, that the foam itself can no
longer expand at that pressure, and maybe even the pressure overcomes
the pressure inside that bubble, so that it collapses like a matter
anti-matter explosion.
But it would not be one bubble, it would be a bunch of bubbles
overcome at once.
The quantum foam squished flat, which would cause not your usual
vacuum of space but a wormhole. A perfect vacuum.
So then it is a smaller scale version of the Bosenova, as the Bosenova
would be similar to that described previously.
There seems to be some curious effects with that explosion, such that
it did not appear to have visible light.
So maybe it is causing an explosion that rips through the foam itself
in a way. We don't have any real examples of wormholes to study in
nature. So maybe it causes a hole in the fabric of space-time and the
pull is on the rest of the foam, in to fill that void, and the mass in
there is carried along with it. Exploding as well but perhaps not the
prime factor in that huge destructive force.http://www.world-science.net/othernews/050105_spaceblastfrm.htm
I would think it was the foam. Otherwise there would be light and it
would be a supernova style explosion.
You can see it better here...http://news.research.ohiou.edu/news/index.php?item=91
So it explodes, and the two cavities there are caused from the rush to
fill in the vacuum.
So it looks to me, like you have maybe a Bosenova as part of it, a
Supernova. and you have a wormhole in the center, and the foam rushes
in to fill that hole.
So how that all works might be a number of things but either the
nuclei become one with the foam, as part of that, and if the foam gets
flattened, then the wormhole is created.
So the pressure creates a Bose Einstein condensate, the nuclei stop
expanding, but it does the Bosenova, and I would have thought you
needed momentum to do that, so maybe it gets too massive and collapses
past that from external pressure and internal pressure from
expansion, so the collapse must entail some momentum, and that
collapses the foam, and then the wormhole is formed, and the foam
rushes in creating those two cavities..
So there are x-rays, but no visible light. so the nuclei are sending
out waves through the foam in that explosion.
And if that is a large scale Bosenova then you would think that a
small scale Bosenova would emit x-rays as well.
And it must.
We are pretty darn close now to understanding what is going on in
there I suspect.
http://www.resonancepub.com/science2002.htm
Take a look at the M.I.T. experiment also regarding the rotating BEC
with the vortices, little Newton's bucket effect, reacting with the
individual quantum foam bubbles of absolute space-time instead of
together as in Newton's bucket on the macro scale.
Thats a conundrum that there is no visible light, but as a guess, and
others have probably also made this guess, that it is rushing forward
in time, as it explodes back out, and that shortens the wavelength,
toward the blue end of the spectrum, past ultraviolet into x-ray.
A huge explosion you cannot see. How weird is that?
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21 Apr 2007 12:48:09 AM |
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So the pressure creates a Bose Einstein condensate, the nuclei stop
expanding, but it does the Bosenova, and I would have thought you
needed momentum to do that, so maybe it gets too massive and collapses
past that from external pressure and internal pressure from
expansion, so the collapse must entail some momentum, and that
collapses the foam, and then the wormhole is formed, and the foam
rushes in creating those two cavities..
So there are x-rays, but no visible light. so the nuclei are sending
out waves through the foam in that explosion.
And if that is a large scale Bosenova then you would think that a
small scale Bosenova would emit x-rays as well.
And it must.
We are pretty darn close now to understanding what is going on in
there I suspect.
http://www.resonancepub.com/science2002.htm
Take a look at the M.I.T. experiment also regarding the rotating BEC
with the vortices, little Newton's bucket effect, reacting with the
individual quantum foam bubbles of absolute space-time instead of
together as in Newton's bucket on the macro scale.
Thats a conundrum that there is no visible light, but as a guess, and
others have probably also made this guess, that it is rushing forward
in time, as it explodes back out, and that shortens the wavelength,
toward the blue end of the spectrum, past ultraviolet into x-ray.
A huge explosion you cannot see. How weird is that?
Regarding the other bit, is the speed of light slowing down, is that
not like saying in that black hole explosion, is not the speed of
light speeding up?
Time does something to light. I would think it is not impossible to
think that todays electron, is not exactly like an electron of the
past, and that expansion has changed its value. As we move towards the
heat death of the universe maybe that could happen.
In fact if th ebig bang was an explosion, you would expect that at
some point it will peter out in the heat death of the universe, and if
the electron strength, the strength of the spherical wave crest of
dark energy at the electron shell radius, was the result of the force
of expansion, and that force was petering out over time as we move
towards the heat death of the universe, then that electron strength
would be reduced. Would that affect the speed of light? Thats an
interesting question to be sure.
Does the quantum foam as it expands, get thinner in its skin, and do
things change over time that might affect how light travels?
I think that it is more probable to assume that the charge of an
electron has changed because that would be in accordance with the
expanding man model, and the heat death of the universe. Which we
think the universe is headed that way eventually. It is not a static
universe, like one where the conservation of energy principle would
apply. (snicker snicker) We expect the net energy of the universe will
not be conserved at the heat death of the universe.
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21 Apr 2007 01:03:36 AM |
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On Apr 21, 6:48 am, wrote:
So the pressure creates a Bose Einstein condensate, the nuclei stop
expanding, but it does the Bosenova, and I would have thought you
needed momentum to do that, so maybe it gets too massive and collapses
past that from external pressure and internal pressure from
expansion, so the collapse must entail some momentum, and that
collapses the foam, and then the wormhole is formed, and the foam
rushes in creating those two cavities..
So there are x-rays, but no visible light. so the nuclei are sending
out waves through the foam in that explosion.
And if that is a large scale Bosenova then you would think that a
small scale Bosenova would emit x-rays as well.
And it must.
We are pretty darn close now to understanding what is going on in
there I suspect.
http://www.resonancepub.com/science2002.htm
Take a look at the M.I.T. experiment also regarding the rotating BEC
with the vortices, little Newton's bucket effect, reacting with the
individual quantum foam bubbles of absolute space-time instead of
together as in Newton's bucket on the macro scale.
Thats a conundrum that there is no visible light, but as a guess, and
others have probably also made this guess, that it is rushing forward
in time, as it explodes back out, and that shortens the wavelength,
toward the blue end of the spectrum, past ultraviolet into x-ray.
A huge explosion you cannot see. How weird is that?
Regarding the other bit, is the speed of light slowing down, is that
not like saying in that black hole explosion, is not the speed of
light speeding up?
Time does something to light. I would think it is not impossible to
think that todays electron, is not exactly like an electron of the
past, and that expansion has changed its value. As we move towards the
heat death of the universe maybe that could happen.
In fact if th ebig bang was an explosion, you would expect that at
some point it will peter out in the heat death of the universe, and if
the electron strength, the strength of the spherical wave crest of
dark energy at the electron shell radius, was the result of the force
of expansion, and that force was petering out over time as we move
towards the heat death of the universe, then that electron strength
would be reduced. Would that affect the speed of light? Thats an
interesting question to be sure.
Does the quantum foam as it expands, get thinner in its skin, and do
things change over time that might affect how light travels?
I think that it is more probable to assume that the charge of an
electron has changed because that would be in accordance with the
expanding man model, and the heat death of the universe. Which we
think the universe is headed that way eventually. It is not a static
universe, like one where the conservation of energy principle would
apply. (snicker snicker) We expect the net energy of the universe will
not be conserved at the heat death of the universe.
Hence the term absolute space-time, that being the quantum foam, we
assume is not changing its character over time, and as such the speed
at which waves travel through it, shouldn't change over time. But well
who knows.
According to the expanding man model, it would be the electron
changing over time, because the variable is the force at which it is
being created by the expansion of the universe, which makes G vary
over time.
And Dinosaurs that couldn't live today, in todays gravity on earth,
because they couldn't pump blood to their heads way up there, would
all testify to that in a court of law.
If they weren't all dead.
So allll these things tie in together, and we can do the math to fit
them all in there well, and we will as we move along doing the math
and taking new measurements and making new discoveries.
But really at some point those static universe people will have to get
with the program.
Particle physics works so well in a static universe and less well in
the real one and thats why the standard model, is such a ***** to prop
up.
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21 Apr 2007 01:27:37 AM |
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On Apr 21, 7:03 am, wrote:
On Apr 21, 6:48 am, wrote:
So the pressure creates a Bose Einstein condensate, the nuclei stop
expanding, but it does the Bosenova, and I would have thought you
needed momentum to do that, so maybe it gets too massive and collapses
past that from external pressure and internal pressure from
expansion, so the collapse must entail some momentum, and that
collapses the foam, and then the wormhole is formed, and the foam
rushes in creating those two cavities..
So there are x-rays, but no visible light. so the nuclei are sending
out waves through the foam in that explosion.
And if that is a large scale Bosenova then you would think that a
small scale Bosenova would emit x-rays as well.
And it must.
We are pretty darn close now to understanding what is going on in
there I suspect.
http://www.resonancepub.com/science2002.htm
Take a look at the M.I.T. experiment also regarding the rotating BEC
with the vortices, little Newton's bucket effect, reacting with the
individual quantum foam bubbles of absolute space-time instead of
together as in Newton's bucket on the macro scale.
Thats a conundrum that there is no visible light, but as a guess, and
others have probably also made this guess, that it is rushing forward
in time, as it explodes back out, and that shortens the wavelength,
toward the blue end of the spectrum, past ultraviolet into x-ray.
A huge explosion you cannot see. How weird is that?
Regarding the other bit, is the speed of light slowing down, is that
not like saying in that black hole explosion, is not the speed of
light speeding up?
Time does something to light. I would think it is not impossible to
think that todays electron, is not exactly like an electron of the
past, and that expansion has changed its value. As we move towards the
heat death of the universe maybe that could happen.
In fact if th ebig bang was an explosion, you would expect that at
some point it will peter out in the heat death of the universe, and if
the electron strength, the strength of the spherical wave crest of
dark energy at the electron shell radius, was the result of the force
of expansion, and that force was petering out over time as we move
towards the heat death of the universe, then that electron strength
would be reduced. Would that affect the speed of light? Thats an
interesting question to be sure.
Does the quantum foam as it expands, get thinner in its skin, and do
things change over time that might affect how light travels?
I think that it is more probable to assume that the charge of an
electron has changed because that would be in accordance with the
expanding man model, and the heat death of the universe. Which we
think the universe is headed that way eventually. It is not a static
universe, like one where the conservation of energy principle would
apply. (snicker snicker) We expect the net energy of the universe will
not be conserved at the heat death of the universe.
Hence the term absolute space-time, that being the quantum foam, we
assume is not changing its character over time, and as such the speed
at which waves travel through it, shouldn't change over time. But well
who knows.
According to the expanding man model, it would be the electron
changing over time, because the variable is the force at which it is
being created by the expansion of the universe, which makes G vary
over time.
And Dinosaurs that couldn't live today, in todays gravity on earth,
because they couldn't pump blood to their heads way up there, would
all testify to that in a court of law.
If they weren't all dead.
So allll these things tie in together, and we can do the math to fit
them all in there well, and we will as we move along doing the math
and taking new measurements and making new discoveries.
But really at some point those static universe people will have to get
with the program.
Particle physics works so well in a static universe and less well in
the real one and thats why the standard model, is such a ***** to prop
up.
But, if the gravity is getting stronger on earth, hence the dinosaurs
couldn't live today, that seems at odds with gravity getting weaker as
the universe heads towards heat death.
That measurements in a quasar, which say that the electron is
changing, or light is slowing down, sounds more like heading towards
heat death.
So how does gravity get stronger, more acceleration as we expand,
unless if the quantum foam has more resistance to expansion. It would
have to be losing some elasticity.
But if that is the case, then you would expect the dark energy wave to
have more power and be stronger meaning the electron charge would be
greater today than in the past.
And the rate of change might increase. If the electron was stronger,
that might mean in one way time was accelerating. Only in the way that
atoms affect each other, even if the rate the universe expands was
linear.
Simply because the elasticity of the balloon was reduced as it
expands.
Well I am too lazy to look all these things up and that is why Stephen
gets the big money.
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21 Apr 2007 10:00:39 AM |
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On Apr 21, 7:27 am, wrote:
On Apr 21, 7:03 am, wrote:
On Apr 21, 6:48 am, wrote:
So the pressure creates a Bose Einstein condensate, the nuclei stop
expanding, but it does the Bosenova, and I would have thought you
needed momentum to do that, so maybe it gets too massive and collapses
past that from external pressure and internal pressure from
expansion, so the collapse must entail some momentum, and that
collapses the foam, and then the wormhole is formed, and the foam
rushes in creating those two cavities..
So there are x-rays, but no visible light. so the nuclei are sending
out waves through the foam in that explosion.
And if that is a large scale Bosenova then you would think that a
small scale Bosenova would emit x-rays as well.
And it must.
We are pretty darn close now to understanding what is going on in
there I suspect.
http://www.resonancepub.com/science2002.htm
Take a look at the M.I.T. experiment also regarding the rotating BEC
with the vortices, little Newton's bucket effect, reacting with the
individual quantum foam bubbles of absolute space-time instead of
together as in Newton's bucket on the macro scale.
Thats a conundrum that there is no visible light, but as a guess, and
others have probably also made this guess, that it is rushing forward
in time, as it explodes back out, and that shortens the wavelength,
toward the blue end of the spectrum, past ultraviolet into x-ray.
A huge explosion you cannot see. How weird is that?
Regarding the other bit, is the speed of light slowing down, is that
not like saying in that black hole explosion, is not the speed of
light speeding up?
Time does something to light. I would think it is not impossible to
think that todays electron, is not exactly like an electron of the
past, and that expansion has changed its value. As we move towards the
heat death of the universe maybe that could happen.
In fact if th ebig bang was an explosion, you would expect that at
some point it will peter out in the heat death of the universe, and if
the electron strength, the strength of the spherical wave crest of
dark energy at the electron shell radius, was the result of the force
of expansion, and that force was petering out over time as we move
towards the heat death of the universe, then that electron strength
would be reduced. Would that affect the speed of light? Thats an
interesting question to be sure.
Does the quantum foam as it expands, get thinner in its skin, and do
things change over time that might affect how light travels?
I think that it is more probable to assume that the charge of an
electron has changed because that would be in accordance with the
expanding man model, and the heat death of the universe. Which we
think the universe is headed that way eventually. It is not a static
universe, like one where the conservation of energy principle would
apply. (snicker snicker) We expect the net energy of the universe will
not be conserved at the heat death of the universe.
Hence the term absolute space-time, that being the quantum foam, we
assume is not changing its character over time, and as such the speed
at which waves travel through it, shouldn't change over time. But well
who knows.
According to the expanding man model, it would be the electron
changing over time, because the variable is the force at which it is
being created by the expansion of the universe, which makes G vary
over time.
And Dinosaurs that couldn't live today, in todays gravity on earth,
because they couldn't pump blood to their heads way up there, would
all testify to that in a court of law.
If they weren't all dead.
So allll these things tie in together, and we can do the math to fit
them all in there well, and we will as we move along doing the math
and taking new measurements and making new discoveries.
But really at some point those static universe people will have to get
with the program.
Particle physics works so well in a static universe and less well in
the real one and thats why the standard model, is such a ***** to prop
up.
But, if the gravity is getting stronger on earth, hence the dinosaurs
couldn't live today, that seems at odds with gravity getting weaker as
the universe heads towards heat death.
That measurements in a quasar, which say that the electron is
changing, or light is slowing down, sounds more like heading towards
heat death.
So how does gravity get stronger, more acceleration as we expand,
unless if the quantum foam has more resistance to expansion. It would
have to be losing some elasticity.
But if that is the case, then you would expect the dark energy wave to
have more power and be stronger meaning the electron charge would be
greater today than in the past.
And the rate of change might increase. If the electron was stronger,
that might mean in one way time was accelerating. Only in the way that
atoms affect each other, even if the rate the universe expands was
linear.
Simply because the elasticity of the balloon was reduced as it
expands.
Well I am too lazy to look all these things up and that is why Stephen
gets the big money.
You see the dinosaur problem as it is called, where people have
examined dinosaur physiology and determined they couldn't live in
today's gravity is insufficient to prove that that tells us something
about universal gravity.
Even if it ends up, that earth's gravity is stronger now, than in the
past during the big long necked dinosaurs, well maybe the earth
cooled, or maybe the earth moon system is responsible. Maybe there was
no moon, or maybe there were two moons.
And so even if we found geological evidence in rock formation and said
that these processes occurred differently, we would still just be
talking about the earth and then we can't transpose that data to the
entire universe.
So our theory should simply tell us, if gravity would have been less
or more if universal gravity was less or more and still we might be
unable to be sure of earth's events in the past, you know if something
didn't occur that was offsetting that effect.
You would think, that if the big bang was an explosion, and that
momentum was causing gravity, that the explosion would taper off and
lead to the eventual heat death of the universe.
But what if the elasticity of the balloon (the quantum foam) was like
a balloon and it became tighter as it stretched, changing such things
as dark energy values near atoms.
Then the waves speed up, get smaller, maybe stronger, intrinsic mass
might increase, (that would increase gravity if intrinsic mass
increased) and that would lead to a different sort of end, maybe the
balloon would burst, the foam collapse.
At a high point rather than tapering off.
If the data from space observations, shows that the electron was
getting stronger, well that would be difficult to explain, unless you
consider that the elasticity of the quantum foam was reducing due to
its stretching as it expands.
But does the skin of a soap bubble stretch or does the soapy water
merely flow and it gets thinner? Does the tensile strength of a bubble
increase as it expands? And so should we expect the quantum foam to
have properties like elasticity in the rubber sense or fluid sense?
If the electron was getting stronger, that would mean that intrinsic
mass was increasing, and gravity then would be getting stronger.
And the inverse of that is true.
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21 Apr 2007 10:18:44 AM |
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So our theory should simply tell us, if gravity would have been less
or more if universal gravity was less or more and still we might be
unable to be sure of earth's events in the past, you know if something
didn't occur that was offsetting that effect.
You would think, that if the big bang was an explosion, and that
momentum was causing gravity, that the explosion would taper off and
lead to the eventual heat death of the universe.
But what if the elasticity of the balloon (the quantum foam) was like
a balloon and it became tighter as it stretched, changing such things
as dark energy values near atoms.
Then the waves speed up, get smaller, maybe stronger, intrinsic mass
might increase, (that would increase gravity if intrinsic mass
increased) and that would lead to a different sort of end, maybe the
balloon would burst, the foam collapse.
At a high point rather than tapering off.
If the data from space observations, shows that the electron was
getting stronger, well that would be difficult to explain, unless you
consider that the elasticity of the quantum foam was reducing due to
its stretching as it expands.
But does the skin of a soap bubble stretch or does the soapy water
merely flow and it gets thinner? Does the tensile strength of a bubble
increase as it expands? And so should we expect the quantum foam to
have properties like elasticity in the rubber sense or fluid sense?
This data is available out there because we had people do these
experiments with soap bubbles and also I think they did some
experiments in the space station.
But I am too lazy to look it up.
And I don't know how many more observations have been made since that
paper which appeared in Physics Review on quasars
in 2001 and what the extrapolations of that data have been. When they
meet they will have lots to discuss and we will find out what their
opinions are on all these topics and maybe even we will learn more
about the qualities of the quantum foam, and get an idea of how we
might find out more about its nature.
To maybe fill in some of those gaps that we are unsure of still.
Not that they have any far reaching implications, but we really would
like to understand gravity better.
W#e should be able to say with certainty, man walked on the moon or
man did not walk on the moon, simply because our understanding of
gravity is such that we can prove conclusively how things would be,
just by theory.
We should be able to say with certainty, what the earth would look
like without a moon.
What it would look like with two moons.
What it would be like over time.
If the long necked dinosaurs lived for 100 million years, and now they
can't and it is not linear, that is to say they over that 100 million
years did not get shorter necks, then maybe asteroid impact increased
our gravity or some other factor was responsible.
If the electron was getting stronger, that would mean that intrinsic
mass was increasing, and gravity then would be getting stronger.
And the inverse of that is true.
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21 Apr 2007 10:31:14 AM |
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On Apr 21, 4:18 pm, wrote:
So our theory should simply tell us, if gravity would have been less
or more if universal gravity was less or more and still we might be
unable to be sure of earth's events in the past, you know if something
didn't occur that was offsetting that effect.
You would think, that if the big bang was an explosion, and that
momentum was causing gravity, that the explosion would taper off and
lead to the eventual heat death of the universe.
But what if the elasticity of the balloon (the quantum foam) was like
a balloon and it became tighter as it stretched, changing such things
as dark energy values near atoms.
Then the waves speed up, get smaller, maybe stronger, intrinsic mass
might increase, (that would increase gravity if intrinsic mass
increased) and that would lead to a different sort of end, maybe the
balloon would burst, the foam collapse.
At a high point rather than tapering off.
If the data from space observations, shows that the electron was
getting stronger, well that would be difficult to explain, unless you
consider that the elasticity of the quantum foam was reducing due to
its stretching as it expands.
But does the skin of a soap bubble stretch or does the soapy water
merely flow and it gets thinner? Does the tensile strength of a bubble
increase as it expands? And so should we expect the quantum foam to
have properties like elasticity in the rubber sense or fluid sense?
This data is available out there because we had people do these
experiments with soap bubbles and also I think they did some
experiments in the space station.
But I am too lazy to look it up.
And I don't know how many more observations have been made since that
paper which appeared in Physics Review on quasars
in 2001 and what the extrapolations of that data have been. When they
meet they will have lots to discuss and we will find out what their
opinions are on all these topics and maybe even we will learn more
about the qualities of the quantum foam, and get an idea of how we
might find out more about its nature.
To maybe fill in some of those gaps that we are unsure of still.
Not that they have any far reaching implications, but we really would
like to understand gravity better.
W#e should be able to say with certainty, man walked on the moon or
man did not walk on the moon, simply because our understanding of
gravity is such that we can prove conclusively how things would be,
just by theory.
We should be able to say with certainty, what the earth would look
like without a moon.
What it would look like with two moons.
What it would be like over time.
If the long necked dinosaurs lived for 100 million years, and now they
can't and it is not linear, that is to say they over that 100 million
years did not get shorter necks, then maybe asteroid impact increased
our gravity or some other factor was responsible.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11928145/
How do you carry that neck around without getting a sore neck?
If the electron was getting stronger, that would mean that intrinsic
mass was increasing, and gravity then would be getting stronger.
And the inverse of that is true.
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21 Apr 2007 10:56:27 AM |
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On Apr 21, 4:31 pm, wrote:
On Apr 21, 4:18 pm, wrote:
So our theory should simply tell us, if gravity would have been less
or more if universal gravity was less or more and still we might be
unable to be sure of earth's events in the past, you know if something
didn't occur that was offsetting that effect.
You would think, that if the big bang was an explosion, and that
momentum was causing gravity, that the explosion would taper off and
lead to the eventual heat death of the universe.
But what if the elasticity of the balloon (the quantum foam) was like
a balloon and it became tighter as it stretched, changing such things
as dark energy values near atoms.
Then the waves speed up, get smaller, maybe stronger, intrinsic mass
might increase, (that would increase gravity if intrinsic mass
increased) and that would lead to a different sort of end, maybe the
balloon would burst, the foam collapse.
At a high point rather than tapering off.
If the data from space observations, shows that the electron was
getting stronger, well that would be difficult to explain, unless you
consider that the elasticity of the quantum foam was reducing due to
its stretching as it expands.
But does the skin of a soap bubble stretch or does the soapy water
merely flow and it gets thinner? Does the tensile strength of a bubble
increase as it expands? And so should we expect the quantum foam to
have properties like elasticity in the rubber sense or fluid sense?
This data is available out there because we had people do these
experiments with soap bubbles and also I think they did some
experiments in the space station.
But I am too lazy to look it up.
And I don't know how many more observations have been made since that
paper which appeared in Physics Review on quasars
in 2001 and what the extrapolations of that data have been. When they
meet they will have lots to discuss and we will find out what their
opinions are on all these topics and maybe even we will learn more
about the qualities of the quantum foam, and get an idea of how we
might find out more about its nature.
To maybe fill in some of those gaps that we are unsure of still.
Not that they have any far reaching implications, but we really would
like to understand gravity better.
W#e should be able to say with certainty, man walked on the moon or
man did not walk on the moon, simply because our understanding of
gravity is such that we can prove conclusively how things would be,
just by theory.
We should be able to say with certainty, what the earth would look
like without a moon.
What it would look like with two moons.
What it would be like over time.
If the long necked dinosaurs lived for 100 million years, and now they
can't and it is not linear, that is to say they over that 100 million
years did not get shorter necks, then maybe asteroid impact increased
our gravity or some other factor was responsible.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11928145/
How do you carry that neck around without getting a sore neck?
Just raise one arm and walk around like that for 20 minutes.
Even if they had steel cable, running in two channels through their
airy bone segments, it would not be something that mother nature would
create for survival unless they were aquatic and it floated on the
water.
You can't carry something that big around without some sort of
suspension cable like a bridge.
Well John Homes can, but the rest of us can't.
I almost can though.
If the electron was getting stronger, that would mean that intrinsic
mass was increasing, and gravity then would be getting stronger.
And the inverse of that is true.
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21 Apr 2007 11:42:59 AM |
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On Apr 21, 4:56 pm, wrote:
On Apr 21, 4:31 pm, wrote:
On Apr 21, 4:18 pm, wrote:
So our theory should simply tell us, if gravity would have been less
or more if universal gravity was less or more and still we might be
unable to be sure of earth's events in the past, you know if something
didn't occur that was offsetting that effect.
You would think, that if the big bang was an explosion, and that
momentum was causing gravity, that the explosion would taper off and
lead to the eventual heat death of the universe.
But what if the elasticity of the balloon (the quantum foam) was like
a balloon and it became tighter as it stretched, changing such things
as dark energy values near atoms.
Then the waves speed up, get smaller, maybe stronger, intrinsic mass
might increase, (that would increase gravity if intrinsic mass
increased) and that would lead to a different sort of end, maybe the
balloon would burst, the foam collapse.
At a high point rather than tapering off.
If the data from space observations, shows that the electron was
getting stronger, well that would be difficult to explain, unless you
consider that the elasticity of the quantum foam was reducing due to
its stretching as it expands.
But does the skin of a soap bubble stretch or does the soapy water
merely flow and it gets thinner? Does the tensile strength of a bubble
increase as it expands? And so should we expect the quantum foam to
have properties like elasticity in the rubber sense or fluid sense?
This data is available out there because we had people do these
experiments with soap bubbles and also I think they did some
experiments in the space station.
But I am too lazy to look it up.
And I don't know how many more observations have been made since that
paper which appeared in Physics Review on quasars
in 2001 and what the extrapolations of that data have been. When they
meet they will have lots to discuss and we will find out what their
opinions are on all these topics and maybe even we will learn more
about the qualities of the quantum foam, and get an idea of how we
might find out more about its nature.
To maybe fill in some of those gaps that we are unsure of still.
Not that they have any far reaching implications, but we really would
like to understand gravity better.
W#e should be able to say with certainty, man walked on the moon or
man did not walk on the moon, simply because our understanding of
gravity is such that we can prove conclusively how things would be,
just by theory.
We should be able to say with certainty, what the earth would look
like without a moon.
What it would look like with two moons.
What it would be like over time.
If the long necked dinosaurs lived for 100 million years, and now they
can't and it is not linear, that is to say they over that 100 million
years did not get shorter necks, then maybe asteroid impact increased
our gravity or some other factor was responsible.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11928145/
How do you carry that neck around without getting a sore neck?
Just raise one arm and walk around like that for 20 minutes.
Even if they had steel cable, running in two channels through their
airy bone segments, it would not be something that mother nature would
create for survival unless they were aquatic and it floated on the
water.
You can't carry something that big around without some sort of
suspension cable like a bridge.
Well John Homes can, but the rest of us can't.
I almost can though.
http://www.supload.us/free/HilaryDuff-4-21-2007.jpg/view/
Well thats right. an elephant doesn't walk around with its trunk
sticking straight out today because its just too heavy.
http://img104.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=54714_hilaryduffpolo_10_122_746lo.jpg
What are you saying Hilary? I don't quite understand that hand signal.
lol
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21 Apr 2007 12:02:04 PM |
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On Apr 21, 5:42 pm, wrote:
On Apr 21, 4:56 pm, wrote:
On Apr 21, 4:31 pm, wrote:
On Apr 21, 4:18 pm, wrote:
So our theory should simply tell us, if gravity would have been less
or more if universal gravity was less or more and still we might be
unable to be sure of earth's events in the past, you know if something
didn't occur that was offsetting that effect.
You would think, that if the big bang was an explosion, and that
momentum was causing gravity, that the explosion would taper off and
lead to the eventual heat death of the universe.
But what if the elasticity of the balloon (the quantum foam) was like
a balloon and it became tighter as it stretched, changing such things
as dark energy values near atoms.
Then the waves speed up, get smaller, maybe stronger, intrinsic mass
might increase, (that would increase gravity if intrinsic mass
increased) and that would lead to a different sort of end, maybe the
balloon would burst, the foam collapse.
At a high point rather than tapering off.
If the data from space observations, shows that the electron was
getting stronger, well that would be difficult to explain, unless you
consider that the elasticity of the quantum foam was reducing due to
its stretching as it expands.
But does the skin of a soap bubble stretch or does the soapy water
merely flow and it gets thinner? Does the tensile strength of a bubble
increase as it expands? And so should we expect the quantum foam to
have properties like elasticity in the rubber sense or fluid sense?
This data is available out there because we had people do these
experiments with soap bubbles and also I think they did some
experiments in the space station.
But I am too lazy to look it up.
And I don't know how many more observations have been made since that
paper which appeared in Physics Review on quasars
in 2001 and what the extrapolations of that data have been. When they
meet they will have lots to discuss and we will find out what their
opinions are on all these topics and maybe even we will learn more
about the qualities of the quantum foam, and get an idea of how we
might find out more about its nature.
To maybe fill in some of those gaps that we are unsure of still.
Not that they have any far reaching implications, but we really would
like to understand gravity better.
W#e should be able to say with certainty, man walked on the moon or
man did not walk on the moon, simply because our understanding of
gravity is such that we can prove conclusively how things would be,
just by theory.
We should be able to say with certainty, what the earth would look
like without a moon.
What it would look like with two moons.
What it would be like over time.
If the long necked dinosaurs lived for 100 million years, and now they
can't and it is not linear, that is to say they over that 100 million
years did not get shorter necks, then maybe asteroid impact increased
our gravity or some other factor was responsible.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11928145/
How do you carry that neck around without getting a sore neck?
Just raise one arm and walk around like that for 20 minutes.
Even if they had steel cable, running in two channels through their
airy bone segments, it would not be something that mother nature would
create for survival unless they were aquatic and it floated on the
water.
You can't carry something that big around without some sort of
suspension cable like a bridge.
Well John Homes can, but the rest of us can't.
I almost can though.
http://www.supload.us/free/HilaryDuff-4-21-2007.jpg/view/
Well thats right. an elephant doesn't walk around with its trunk
sticking straight out today because its just too heavy.
http://img104.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=54714_hilaryduffpolo_10_12...
What are you saying Hilary? I don't quite understand that hand signal.
lol
Yes size no longer matters if it just lays there.
But obviously there is some change that has occurred in gravity over
time and explaining it away with sinew running through channels in
some of the airy bone of the dinosaur necks is not going to explain it
away.
Maybe we will find some data that proves that things have changed.
Maybe rock formation, crystal formation some clue.
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21 Apr 2007 12:16:51 PM |
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On Apr 21, 6:02 pm, wrote:
On Apr 21, 5:42 pm, wrote:
On Apr 21, 4:56 pm, wrote:
On Apr 21, 4:31 pm, wrote:
On Apr 21, 4:18 pm, wrote:
So our theory should simply tell us, if gravity would have been less
or more if universal gravity was less or more and still we might be
unable to be sure of earth's events in the past, you know if something
didn't occur that was offsetting that effect.
You would think, that if the big bang was an explosion, and that
momentum was causing gravity, that the explosion would taper off and
lead to the eventual heat death of the universe.
But what if the elasticity of the balloon (the quantum foam) was like
a balloon and it became tighter as it stretched, changing such things
as dark energy values near atoms.
Then the waves speed up, get smaller, maybe stronger, intrinsic mass
might increase, (that would increase gravity if intrinsic mass
increased) and that would lead to a different sort of end, maybe the
balloon would burst, the foam collapse.
At a high point rather than tapering off.
If the data from space observations, shows that the electron was
getting stronger, well that would be difficult to explain, unless you
consider that the elasticity of the quantum foam was reducing due to
its stretching as it expands.
But does the skin of a soap bubble stretch or does the soapy water
merely flow and it gets thinner? Does the tensile strength of a bubble
increase as it expands? And so should we expect the quantum foam to
have properties like elasticity in the rubber sense or fluid sense?
This data is available out there because we had people do these
experiments with soap bubbles and also I think they did some
experiments in the space station.
But I am too lazy to look it up.
And I don't know how many more observations have been made since that
paper which appeared in Physics Review on quasars
in 2001 and what the extrapolations of that data have been. When they
meet they will have lots to discuss and we will find out what their
opinions are on all these topics and maybe even we will learn more
about the qualities of the quantum foam, and get an idea of how we
might find out more about its nature.
To maybe fill in some of those gaps that we are unsure of still.
Not that they have any far reaching implications, but we really would
like to understand gravity better.
W#e should be able to say with certainty, man walked on the moon or
man did not walk on the moon, simply because our understanding of
gravity is such that we can prove conclusively how things would be,
just by theory.
We should be able to say with certainty, what the earth would look
like without a moon.
What it would look like with two moons.
What it would be like over time.
If the long necked dinosaurs lived for 100 million years, and now they
can't and it is not linear, that is to say they over that 100 million
years did not get shorter necks, then maybe asteroid impact increased
our gravity or some other factor was responsible.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11928145/
How do you carry that neck around without getting a sore neck?
Just raise one arm and walk around like that for 20 minutes.
Even if they had steel cable, running in two channels through their
airy bone segments, it would not be something that mother nature would
create for survival unless they were aquatic and it floated on the
water.
You can't carry something that big around without some sort of
suspension cable like a bridge.
Well John Homes can, but the rest of us can't.
I almost can though.
http://www.supload.us/free/HilaryDuff-4-21-2007.jpg/view/
Well thats right. an elephant doesn't walk around with its trunk
sticking straight out today because its just too heavy.
http://img104.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=54714_hilaryduffpolo_10_12...
What are you saying Hilary? I don't quite understand that hand signal.
lol
Yes size no longer matters if it just lays there.
But obviously there is some change that has occurred in gravity over
time and explaining it away with sinew running through channels in
some of the airy bone of the dinosaur necks is not going to explain it
away.
Maybe we will find some data that proves that things have changed.
Maybe rock formation, crystal formation some clue.
http://img42.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=54654_hilaryduffpolo_14_122_713lo.jpg
Um do you think we could discuss this later maybe in private, I am
sort of busy right now.
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21 Apr 2007 11:57:31 AM |
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PENTHO NO-MATES VALEY you LITTTLE SNOT STOP REPLYING TO YOUR OWN POSTS
AND STOP CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC
CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO
SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI
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20 Apr 2007 04:21:40 AM |
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On Apr 20, 7:00?am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It seems dignitaries now believe that the century old money-spinner
called "I WORSHIP EINSTEIN" should be abandoned:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2057529,00.html"Few
scientists need the final results, which will be revealed in December,
to convince them of Einstein's genius. 'From the most esoteric aspects
of time dilation through to the beautiful and simple equation, e=mc2,
the vast bulk of Einstein's ideas about the universe are standing up
to the test of time,' said Robert Massey, from the Royal Astronomical
Society. He said the mission was 'legitimate science' to test a theory
and confirm its brilliance, but others have criticised the costs and
length of the study, claiming that what was announced had already been
shown. Sir Martin Rees, the Astronomer Royal, said the announcement
would 'fork no lightning'."
Dignitaries even have some ideas about the new money-spinner whose
name will undoubtedly be "I IMPROVE ON EINSTEIN":
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/519406/posts: "A GROUP of
astronomers and cosmologists has warned that the laws thought to
govern the universe, including Albert Einstein's theory of relativity,
must be rewritten. The group, which includes Professor Ste | |
